Why do we hate this guy?

I non-ironically agree with him about the Bren/Spandau

>"When someone wins a Victoria Cross"
>Wins a Victoria Cross
>Win

You dont "win" a VC

He had some intersting points but doesnt know what he's talking about

>thought his topics was well researched
Found the problem.
He has a tendency to confuse options and personal theory with fact

>>31794527
Yep, its autism.

He doesn't post new videos often enough, and when he does, half the time they're about some gay dancing shit.

I like him

He can sperg out a bit but he makes it humorous and educational

>>31794517
Then you are a fucking idiot who knows nothing about guns

>>31794502
He's easily one of my most hated people because he's popular, influential, seems intelligent, but is actually a complete, utter moron, and an unfathomably arrogant one at that.

There has never been a more perfect example of a two legged rat. He would be bad if he merely didn't understand something. But oh no, it's so much worse. His "Bren vs """"""""Spandau"""""""""" video proves that not only does the dude not properly research his videos, he never even opened a fucking wiki page, because if he did he would have noticed that the word "Spandau" does not appear anywhere within, to not speak of the literal dozens of much more serious and complicated falsities.

Somehow, he managed to be so spectacularly arrogant, that he didn't even *accidentally* learn something, because if he was just a normal dipshit he would have started to read, realize he understood nothing, then dropped the project, but no.

His reaction to people challenging his shit was childish too, literally saying that if they refuted him with, you know, actual fucking facts, they were just """"""""Spandau'''''''''' fanboys".

Nothing would make me more satisfied than a YouTube video of a collection of historians and armorers simply saying "you're a fucking idiot" one time each.

hes what id want /k/ to be if there were no guns.
hes also unabashedly British, i like

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His videos are cringe incarnate to be quite honest with you family

>>31794730
Spandau fanboy spotted

>>31794502
He is to military historians what Nickelback is to music.

>>31794502
He will never admit he can be wrong

He is inferior to other youtubers when it comes to things outside medieval period. He also have a tendency to use people as source that are highly criticised and whos material has been debunked.
>SLA marshall
>Dave Grossmans works

>>31794502
I like the guy but he can drone on a bit. At least he's not as long winded as certain youtube people.

He literally has autism.
What video is it where he opens the video by rambling about women for 5 minutes?

>>31794544
this

>>31794527
https://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2014/09/03/why-it-not-incorrect-speak-winning-victoria-cross/

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>>31794502
If the Spandau was so good, why doesn't anyone still use it? And if the Bren was so bad, why did the British Army store them in warehouses until 2006? Wehraboos can't explain that.


(He is dumb)

>>31795755
Does he really say that? Has he never heard of the MG3? Even the FN MAG and the M60 borrow a lot from the MG42

Sometimes he confuses his opinion with facts and tends to look at things from the point of view that suits him best.
I still like him.

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>>31794502
His "Shooting to kill - how many men can do this?" video was the worst of the shit he put out, I choose that as the most representative example of his complete incompetence and tendency to blatantly replace facts with his own loony opinions.
For those who don't know, the myth of WWII soldiers no firing their rifles has been thoroughly and completely debunked, here's one article on the topic:

http://www.historynet.com/men-against-fire-how-many-soldiers-actually-fired-their-weapons-at-the-enemy-during-the-vietnam-war.htm

>>31794502
>>31794730
He didn't seriously suggest the goddamn bren gun was a superior weapon to the MG-42, did he?

>>31794826
>He is inferior to other youtubers when it comes to things outside medieval period
Any recommendations?

Anything not involving Platoon or the Medieval period is where he lacks any sort of credibility, he talks out of his ass and like many other anons have said, takes his own opinion aa fact. He's like that kid in high school who said "Well I read.... " the proceeds to spew bullshit

>>31795849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXQygRVvEmM

1 minute in. everyone told him he was wrong. then he made a "correction" video, but that video was pretty much just him calling everyone who disagrees with him a "fanboy". even ian from forgotten weapons wrote in the comments telling him that he was wrong. he still didn't listen.

>Everything from Britain is better
>tl;dr for every one of his videos

He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. When the reality is far from it.

His medieval things are terrible, his videos on japanese weaponry is terrible, his stuff on firearms is terrible as others pointed out, the dance videos are uninteresting as are his tv show parodies like that doctor who thing he did

But to the average guy, he SOUNDS like he's really well informed. Talks in a "fancy" British accent about things most people aren't well informed of and they just assume he's right

I used to love watching his videos - now I sit there for a few seconds when a new one comes out and just think "do I really want to watch it?" And the answer is usually No

>>31795936
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK09g6gYGMvU-0x1VCF1hgA

One that I can think of. Then you have inrangetv and forgottenweapons

>>31794502
How can anyone with even a little knowledge of firearms and/or warfare even give him a time of the day? For example, Bren and MG-42 aren't even in the same category. Bren is an LMG, a squad automatic weapon, while MG-42 is a general-purpose machine gun, typically employed as a crew-served machine-gun. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
He's completely incompetent.

Damn it I hate Britain now

>>31794544

No, that'd be you.

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>>31794527

>>31795921
No his conclusion was, 'they were different.'

>>31795978
Oh, that's a shame. I kinda like the guy. Especially where he's reading tank stories and things. Still, that's what public school does to you.

>>31795999
MG-34 and -42 is a squad weapon. The German infantry doctrine was based around the MG-34, each 3-squad platoon had one MG gunner + 3 assistants (ammo, barrels, bipod) to support the riflemen.

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>Talking shit on youtube
>acting like one have credible sources for ones shit
Everyone of us could do that if we weren't so lazy. The problem is normies don't get that he has no idea of anything

>>31795913

Where in that article does it debunk anything?
I read the entire thing and I don't see it.

He's fine for any topics before about 1800 AD. Mediocre for anything between 1800 and 1930, and can be safely ignored for anything later.

his greatest videos are about archaeology and facts overlooked by most people about the medieval and ancient world. his small series on torches and slings were especially insightful. but beyond that, for actual information on weapons of pretty much any era, there are far better sources of information, and it gets so bad that I no longer even watch his videos on topics related to 20th century history - I know better. I can say with complete confidence that I won't care for what he has to say on modern topics, and I think most posters here would agree.

>>31795999

>It's like comparing apples to oranges.

If you'd actually watched the video, you'd know that's exactly what he said.

And he also never claimed the Bren was better.
He said the MG-34/42 was way better in defense.
But in attack, the Bren was at least as good, because it was more portable, and didn't burn through ammo.

>buys a suit of armour without even getting past skele mode first.

>>31796065
He says it has better accuarcy due to one guy not getting hit by a "spandau"

He says alot of things

Then he says they are both good in their roles but then proceds to say that the British were constantly winning each battle against the Germans after a 1944.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCl1FqD7n6k


Lets take a look at his counter video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgfBL1hz_zw

How mature he acts.

>>31796119

>He says it has better accuarcy due to one guy not getting hit by a "spandau"

Actually he doesn't.
You're experiencing cognitive dissonance, and hearing what meets your expectations, rather than what is actually said.
You cannot be reasoned with.
Sorry.

>>31795320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV2nIkqnGBI
He talked about woman for a minute when he is supposed to talk about tanks.

Then what do you guys recommend to watch / read about medieval warfare?

>>31796131
lindy pls go

>>31796131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXQygRVvEmM
5:50

How does it feel to be retarded?

Well he owns firearms in a shit country so he must know what he talks about.

>>31796142

>>He says it has better accuarcy due to one guy not getting hit by a "spandau"

At no point in the video does he say that.

>>31796144
>Well he owns firearms in a shit country

No, he doesn't. He handles movie prop guns.

>>31796139
Knyght Errant for anything armor related. The guy knows his shit and has sources for nearly every fact he provides.

>>31796188
That is what he is pretty much saying at that part. Why do you think he brought up the Brens super b accuracy earlier and how the spandau just sprays all over the place?

You argue about the exact words he is saying but what does the words he say mean overall? Sure he did not EXACTLY say those words but his message is that the Bren have better accuracy and which he improves on by adding the "spandau" inabillity to hit a guy in a ditch 80 yards away and then proclaim that if it has been a Bren gun it would have been different for that man since it has so much better accuracy to hit things.

>>31796228

>That is what he is pretty much saying at that part.
No.

>but his message is that the Bren have better accuracy
The Bren is objectively more accurate.

>>31796238
>The Bren is objectively more accurate.
As expected from a brittbong.

>>31796242

The Bren has a very well established reputation for being highly accurate.
Unless you can provide evidence that the mg42/34 is at least as accurate, I think you're done here.

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>>31796249

>>31794502
Medieval film nit-picking video is enjoyable. But absolutely terrible in other subjects.

>>31796266

That's not evidence, nor is it what you need to prove your point.

Besides, with the amount of troll videos Ian has put out, I can't even tell if he's being serious here.

>>31796281
>EVIDENCE NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Well where is your eveidence for the Bren gun?

>>31796282

>>EVIDENCE NOT GOOD ENOUGH

0 evidence indeed isn't good enough.

>Well where is your eveidence for the Bren gun?

Check this link for a detailed answer.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bren+lmg+accuracy

>>31796294
Oh wow. So you did not have one? How sad

Google is not a source kiddo.

>>31796302

Oh, you want a source, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNbfEXtngXw

:^)

>>31796309
>posts a troll video
Lol kiddo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfJkU4Sah8I

>>31796318

>doesn't show anything about accuracy

(*^_^)

>>31795985
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK09g6gYGMvU-0x1VCF1hgA

That guy is like a top-tier Extra History, professional graphics instead of cartoony shit but you know what I mean?

This thread is going to give him more youtube money.
>no such thing as bad publicity

>>31796323
>He actually takes a Ians troll Bren video at face value
Lol kiddo

>>31794502

Because /k/ is full of children.
Lindy says something that a child on /k/ disagrees with, and they immediately hate him, because they don't want to be challenged in their beliefs.

He says stuff I disagree with all the time, but that's a GOOD thing.
It takes me out of my comfort zone and causes me to critically examine my beliefs on the subject.

>>31796020
>frog poster

opinion disregarded

>>31796335

I'm starting to think that the point I made in posting that flew right over your head.

>>31796339
But what if he repeats popular ideas about certain things? What then?

>>31796348

Take what I just posted, your question, and reason your way through it yourself.

>>31796346
That you lost from the start?

>>31794502
He's a retard who just keeps on lying about stuff.

>>31796352
So if he says something you agree with then it is a bad thing?

>>31796339
>critically examine my beliefs on the subject

It's pretty sad he can't do this kind of thing himself, then.

>>31796358
You're being intentionally thick.

>>31796359
On the contrary, he's changed his mind and admitted to mistakes many times.

>>31796142
>5:50
It annoys me so much that he really thinks that. If they saw him they would have shot him with a Mauser or a pistol or anything else

>>31796368
doesn't he make the point that the way they used the guns were different in that the germans tended to "spray" with it more and they weren't actually trying to hit the guy?

>>31794502
his hair looks like a toilet brush, perhaps shaving would help
brit bong

>>31796366
>he's changed his mind and admitted to mistakes many times.
Since when? His counter video about the "spandau" is a direct example of him not admitting anything.

>Muh Spandau
Pretty much dropped after that.

>>31794502

And what about this other autist?

>>31796466

Aw whups.

Let me correct the question.

>And what about this other autist?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK09g6gYGMvU-0x1VCF1hgA

>>31796383
I don't have any experience with a MG 42 but for the MG3 I can say as long as you aren't Hans Rambo firing it from your hip it's pretty easy to hit things with it even if you just send bursts in general direction of things. Considering the higher firing rate of the 42 it might spray wider, but MG operators had loads of experience shooting which should allow him to hit what he aims for. When you just load one round or a belt with like 3 rounds the MG3 is actually very precise

>>31796477
I said I liked him, but someone else brought him up first.

>>31796327
>>31795985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVFm1dc8luM

What did he mean by this?

>>31796477
He's pretty good, he does real research on the things he present, also stating his sources and admits if things are unclear and he doesn't know something a 100%. Also he doesn't try to talk about shit he has no idea of. Based Mountain Kraut

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>>31796491
>moves his eye to the rifle instead of moving the rifle into his line of sight

>I thought his videos on medieval topics were pretty well researched

In the same way that Mosul is a pretty nice place.

>>31794502
Ian more or less backed him up (there was a comment from ForgottenWeapons on the YouTube video) so the entire MG42 butthurt thing can stop now.

>>31794502
i hate this entire culture he's part of, of just like going and complaining about how a movie or a game is not "realistic" where they dont realize works of fiction meant for enjoyment often aren't realistic .

>>31796491
>A steel helmet thick enough to stop rifle bullets would break your neck if you nodded off in it.
This meme

>>31796522
Don't you realise that YouTube videos nitpicking stuff are entirely for the enjoyment of people who enjoy nitpicking?
No one made you watch it, crybaby.

>>31796522
Aren't you nitpicking youtube videos of people nitpicking unrealistic fiction?

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>>31796550
you seem a bit flustered there at someone else's opinion, is that what all you nitpickers are like?

>>31796526

Literally all he does is perpetuate memes, then after he gets called out on it, he goes on to create an even longer video response where he uses shitty fallacies and cherrypicked second-hand accounts to defend the memes against the "haters".

>>31796520
Can you read?

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holy shit this thread is autism

>>31794502

Because he is completely Eurocentric and has no knowledge of any cultural aspects or technological innovations that came from other cultures

>>31794502
Many /k/urwas are autistic. Some examples:

>>31794527
>>31794544
>>31794730

I never understood the hate myself.

>>31796604
>other cultures


I never understood the

>>31796586
Obviously, what a dim question.

>>31796615

He straight up said that shock Calvary did not exist before the European knight

>>31794502
He literary said jews killed 6 million hitlers.

he's really really good at presenting and pretending he's intelligent.

>>31796484
I have experience with the Bren, the Mg34, Mg42, Mg51, Mg53, Mg3 and Mg5. Lindy is just spouting anything. It is pretty sad that I am not allowed to make videos of this stuff. I have so many goodies in the bunker at work it drives me crazy.

>>31796658
>It is pretty sad that I am not allowed to make videos of this stuff. I have so many goodies in the bunker at work it drives me crazy.
Don't tell me you work for a funny old man with an unhealthy addiction to Redbull

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>>31796672
I dont know whether Guy Parmelin has a red bull addiction.

>>31796689
nah, thought of someone in Krautland, Brudi. Didn't know you have the MG3 downthere

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>>31796604
His knowledge of European things tend to be disastrously lacking as well.

>Here are the reason nobody used metal scabbards...

>>31796704
Testing.

>>31796624
At least not in europe

>>31796711
I guarantee you that the inside isn't metal.

>>31796715
What MG is the standard for you guys?

>>31796711
What video did he say that in?
I remember him saying something about that the drawing swords video but don't recall anything about metal scabbards specifically

>>31794502
I actually like his videos.

Not listing to much of them about firearms, sure.
But the others are nice.

There might be some points wrong but :

1) not enough of an expert to nickpick about somebody being wrong on the Internet about a topic I don't master myself.

2) most fact-checkings proved him right. He might botch a few proper terms or generalize a bit too much sometime... but overall, he is right.

3) he isn't taking himself serioulsy so no need to go full pedantic on him and analyze every word.

The vids are entertaining, the presentation is either interesting or funny, sometime both.
What to hate ?

>I thought his videos on medieval topics were pretty well researched and interesting.

they're not.

He tends to use anecdotal stories that are utterly unconnected. ie "a scimitar was used like this. A friend of a friends' uncles' goldfish-walker's brother said to me a story about being in the gulf of aden in the 50's where they used saifs that aren't even slightly like scimitars, and therefore the scimitar must've been used like that 500 years earlier." - stuff that has absolutely no basis in any sort of proper research.

I know for a fact that he has attended HEMA workshops, for instance, on the Rondel dagger, where he's stated he's never used one before, then 2 weeks later released a video about the rondel dagger, which entirely contradicted the entire teaching behind the rondel.

Lloyd has one exceptional talent: Sounding supremely confident in any statement he makes. He could turn to a camera and with absolute conviction, state that the 1911 was an evolution of the Browning Hi-power, which was developed by Samuel Colt in 1812, following the US' military experience during the war against Canadian troops, after they built the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue. And there are people who would take it as fact, because he's a brilliant speaker.

Whether its a talent of Dunning Kruger-like ignorance of the subject; that he thinks he knows the fact, or if its simply that he has a talent for presenting his statements with total confidence even when he knows they're wrong, I dont know, but he has a talent for it.

>>31796724
you'd be wrong. the inside of 19th C pattern sabre scabbards are almost universally brass, or steel, in almost all regions of origin.(french, german, english, swedish, etc).

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>>31796724
>>31796792

Our military and police were still issued sabres at the start of 20th century. Most of them (except the ceremonial ones for officers) were relatively unadorned fighting weapons made by a family of renowned sword+knifemakers, and the regulations called for them to be carried appropriately sharpened. Remember, sabres were relatively common for mounted troops well into the 20th century.

And guess what, the scabbards are metal.

>>31796522
>assuming that a remotely historically accurate movie or series would be unenjoyable

I guess the reason that Hollywood movies are so horribly inaccurate isn't so much the fact that a well researched, historically accurate movie would be boring (reality was crazier than any movie could be), but rather that it costs the production company time and money to hire historical experts, work out every detail and design, and build/buy props that aren't fake leather and plastic chainmail or weaponry

>>31796733
Mg51, an improved, flapper locked, mg42 variant and Mg64, (M2, QCB optional) on vehicles. Infantry just has the Lmg05, FN Minimi.

>>31796785
He does rely a bit too much on anecdotal stories but he never said that that was how scimitars were used exclusively
He suggested that this was one way they might have been used like that based on that story
They could of course be used in other ways too and this might just be one of them

I think his point was trying to explain why the "scimiars" in the story were used in that way and saying it is possible to use one in such a way explains why they were used that way in the story

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>>31796769
>nickpick

>>31796914
The majority of the stuff he says sounds decently correct although I wouldn't know all the details since I don't specialize in this stuff

>>31794502
HEY SHITLORD! Stop assuming I know who that is. You are knowledge raping me!

>>31796194
This. In fact, the only "firearm" he owns is a pellet gun.

>>31796938
Thats the fundamental problem with his videos that everyone takes issue with. It all sounds "decently correct" if you're not versed on the topic, but is actually either hearsay, based in heavily anecdote or straight up bullshit. Its frustrating because people take him seriously which leads to the creation of another generation of bullshit fuddlore.

>>31794502
He is the british equivalent of a wehraboo

I think he's popular because he thinks out of the box, giving people alternative perspectives on things, however unfounded they might be.

Autists like him because they projects themselves onto his autistic persona, but validate their viewing of his videos by reasoning that he's actually a (((cool))) dude, because he has polyvalent normie interests like travelling and dancing, and actually interacts with attractive girls (ie that semen demon who regularly appears on his dancing tutorials).

Poorfags like him because he looks like an unkempt mess despite his privileged background, and is critical of the British middle-upper class, as suggested by his videos on how students should be poor and the recent boarding school ones.

Personally, I stopped taking him seriously when he explained gun handling or something using an airgun. I think he's the apex of British cuckoldry when it comes to firearms.

>>31794527
>legit being this autistic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO-Ocueehfc

What did he mean by this?

>>31796051
Underrated post.

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>>31794502
>All these faggots who are presumably subscribers to Lindy's channel
>Even if they don't even like him

Who you really need to be subscribed to is Military History Visualized.

Lotta wehraboos here.

>>31796508
What did you expect, he's a britbong.

It's a cheap ass air rifle, dout he even shoots it.

The guy talks about shit he has never used or even seen.

>>31797327
>cheap ass air rifle WITH A SCOPE
People with scopes on non hunting air rifles are faggots, especially if it's a break barrel and the scope isn't mounted on the barrel

>>31797237
>Curved! Swords! - the account

It's amazing how Europeans managed to conquer half of the world when they were so inept at everything in comparison.
I mean, you'd think that when the European troops were so undisciplined, unskilled and kept their (inferior) weapons in such disrepair compared to the savages, they'd get their shit pushed in...

...just kidding. This is typical greener grass cognitive bias by a nobody British officer.
Maybe if Nolan spent less time memeing about his time in India and more time learning actual tactics, he wouldn't get his shit pushed in by the Russians.

>>31794622
LMFAO

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>>31797427
Get the fuck out.

>>31797361
Fuck you, I do own a cheap ass air rifle with a shitty cheap ass scope.

The fact that I bought it when I was a kid and didn't know any better is a completely different matter.

For the record, the scope reticle broke after like 100+ shots. Bubba'd it with some electric wire.

This thing is such a piece of utter shit now but it's of sentimental value to me.

>>31794502
the spandau vid proves he has no idea what he is talking about...plus he has some sjw political views....

>>31794502
I do love Lindy but this is exactly why a lot of his content bothers me. >>31794544

>>31797375
>European troops were so undisciplined, unskilled and kept their (inferior) weapons in such disrepair compared to the savages, they'd get their shit pushed in...
It was opposite? They were disciplined and skilled but some doctrines were wrong. They obediently followed wrong shit.

>It's amazing how Europeans managed to conquer half of the world when they were so inept at everything in comparison.
Melee combat of cavalry stop being foundation of warfare? Also half of the world doesn't have ships to teach Europe lessons back.

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>>31794502
As long as you keep in mind his bong bias and that he know fuck all about modern combat, there isn't much of a problem.

Also to some extent this:>>31794544
but I do enjoy some of his videos.

And yes, Spandau was failure.

>>31797499
>sjw
>pic related

>>31797499
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJ_2q3RzM4
Yes, very sjw

>>31794502
He sticks by stupid shit like "the british won the most battles after '44 therefore the Bren is better than the Spandau" or "Tripods make the MG bullet shoot further and hit harder than if the MG were on a bipod" .

>>31797766
""Tripods make the MG bullet shoot further "

I'd be the last person to defend the pompous cock-gargling twatwaffle, but perhaps he meant "tripods let a MG be accurate out to longer ranges" there.

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>>31794502
>hating based Lindy

I’ve only heard great things about him on here. Dude has one of the best YouTube channels I’ve ever seen.

I disagree vehemently with him on some topics, but his points are almost universally backed up by sound reasoning.
To top it off, he’s got a great voice, vocabulary, and when you consider that he doesn’t script most of his videos, it’s even more impressive that this is his ad-lib mode.

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>>31795921
No, his point was that they were different ways of filling the role of a squad-based machine gun, and how it was indicative of the mentality of both side’s doctrines.
Super-simple breakdown of his points:

MG42
>unparalleled suppressing fire. no one moves from cover while being strafed with it
>massive psychological deterrent against the enemy, huge psychological boost for the Germans.
>sub-par single-target accuracy. Hard to actually kill someone you’ve suppressed at a distance
>squad was over-reliant on it. Taking out an MG42 crippled the squad that was focusing more on supplying it with ammo than carrying their own rifles and shooting back

Bren
>lousy suppressive fire. Low fire rate and high accuracy made it bad for sweeping an area
>light, could be shoulder-fired and carried forward more easily
>didn’t require whole crews to support it, freed up other infantry to fight at other angles of fire.

Or to put it another way:
>MG42 = Fascist. Strong, scary, centralized power. Shatter it, and the whole thing falls apart.
>Bren = Classical liberal democracy. Mobile, decentralized, individuals acting on their own. Taking out the Bren wasn’t the end of the fight.

Not gonna justify his use of “Spandau” except as a way for him not to continually “flub” a line.

>>31797487
Buying a air rifle is a kid is something completely different.
but when have one a an adult man to 'casualy pick up your rifle you fortunately find in the corner of the room after quickly searching for it' and then don't even know how to hold it it's super cringy. Especially if it has a scope. Sure I also wanted one a a kid, but as an adult I know that it's completely unnecessary for this type of 'firearm'

>>31797867
But that would mean that the """"""Spandau""""""""" would become accurate after long distances again which is just utter horse shit.

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>Bren

MG42 and the Bren were used in different tactics based on their traits. Its the reason why the Soviet Union originally practiced automatic fire bursts when advancing when utilizing their AKs.

>>31797172
British supremacy memes aside he has a good point. When you have a occupying force which doesn't give a shit about straight up murdering civilians if something happens to them resistance is limited. Also the whole faction warfare thing was real.

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>>31798265
>if only we were allowed to do this in afganistan and iraq

>>31798717
The thing is global communications didn't exist back then.

Because when you kill a whole fucking village now people all over the world see it. And some of those people are going to be pissed, one way or another.

>>31798759
Propaganda about how awful and ruthless your enemy is didn't wait for global communication.

The US could go full medieval on sandniggers and get away with it :
It's not like the rest of the world REALLY care.
It's not even like the US citizens really care.

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>>31798265
>When you have a occupying force which doesn't give a shit about straight up murdering civilians if something happens to them resistance is limited.
>>31798717
>>if only we were allowed to do this in afganistan and iraq

Yeah, worked like a charm for the Soviets.

>>31798793
only because cia and american weapons

>>31798793
The French were far less radicalized than the Mujaheddin and the Taliban/Al Qaeda forefathers, who didn't give a fuck about collateral damage because their area of operations were often far away from their own families.

>>31796054

>"He concluded that much had changed since those earlier conflicts and that it was not unusual for close to 100 percent of American infantrymen to engage the adversary during firefights in Vietnam. It seemed that all was well. Marshall had seemingly found that the Americans’ hesitation to fire was all but gone."

Though they do say it was called into question in the next paragraph

>>31798783
>being literally this dumb

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>>31798793
It DID work for them, though : until 1985, the soviet brutal strategy pushed the rebels in the ropes.
Sure, collaterals where massives (pic related) but it's not like the soviets were frisky about genocide to begin with.

They stopped trying though because the political will wasn't really there anymore.
After Brejnev's death, the soviet leadership became very unstable.
When Gorbatchev finally took over, he couldn't stand how bloody raping Afghanistan was and decided to pull out.

Had the soviets kept the course, they would have depopulated Afghanistan enough to repopulate it with russians.

>>31794502
>I thought his videos on medieval topics were pretty well researched and interesting.
Shows what you know, he bullshits a lot with personal theories and people believe it.

>>31796135
>Americans had no tanks at the start of WWII
How can he be so factually incorrect?

>>31799752
Time in the video ?

>>31794502
he's a breddy cool guy. I just ignore the dancing and firearms stuff and take all his videos as opinion pieces (which they are).

>>31794502
He seems like an autistic enough weirdo to advocate calling them spandau. I bet he calls m113's Gavins as well.

>>31795953

Source of ian from Forgotten weapons schooling him? I think that'd be a pretty amusing thing to see, but I'd rather not go through all of lindybeiges' bullshit

>>31795921
The BREN does have some advantages over the MG42. They both have advantages over each other, like he says, but he's fucking ridiculous in the way he says it. He says the flash hider is on the BREN so as to 'spread out' the rounds because it was 'too accurate', meanwhile he suggests the MG42 isn't 'as accurate' which I don't believe to be the case. Here's my opinion on the matter, but I'll start with the first issue...

>Rate of fire

Higher rate of fire offers:
Better chance to hit a target with a 'sweep' of rounds.
Arguably more of a psychological affect to keep the target's heads down.

Lower rate of fire offers:
More controllable recoil.
Easier to conserve ammunition.
Easier to fire just one shot at a time for shots that require accuracy rather than suppressive sprays.
Barrels don't overheat as quickly.

So you see, having a faster rate of fire doesn't necessarily mean a firearm is better when talking about rifle ammunition. Now, with pistol ammunition from a shoulder-fired firearm, many of the pros of a lower rate of fire doesn't apply such as more controllable recoil (hardily; it's pistol ammo in a shoulder-fired 8-9lb firearm), easier to fire one shot at a time (Most SMGs with a high rate of fire are select fire for semi/full auto), and overheating barrels isn't much of a big deal it would seem. Not AS much of a big deal as rifle ammo. So I believe with LMGs a high rate of fire is a bit of a trade off, while for SMGs I think a high rate of fire is a nearly outright benefit as long as it has select-fire capabilities and ammo that isn't .45 ACP (230gr .45 ACP weighs very nearly as much as M80 Ball 7.62 Nato).

>Weight

If I recall correctly, the MG42 is 25lb empty while the BREN is around 21-22lb empty depending on model. 3-4lb is quite a nice bit of weight savings, however with that said, that advantage of weight is lost if the gunner is carrying much ammo. Belts weigh much less than mags, even when considering WWII 8mm is heavier than WWII .303.

>>31795921
>Weight cont.
Even though, say, 8 30-rnd mags of .303 will weigh more than a 240-round belt of 8mm, we must also consider how much the firearms will be loaded. A BREN gunner's overall loadout might end up being as heavy or slightly heavier than an MG42 gunner's loadout even with the same amount of ammo due to 30-rnd mags weighing more than 30-rnd belts, but what about the FIREARM...

A BREN with a 30-rnd mag of .303 is probably around 23-24lb (assuming the mag weighs 2lb).

An MG42 with a 100-rnd belt of 8mm is probably around 30-31lb since s. S. Patrone 8mm Mauser can't even get 20 rounds before 1lb is reached, so 100 rounds is over 5lb as is, let alone the belt links.

So a BREN gunner is wielding an LMG that's under 25lb in his hands, meanwhile, an MG42 gunner is lugging around an over 30lb machine gun with a 100-rnd belt. With a 50-rnd belt, likely around 28lb, but I imagine that belt dangling around will be quite annoying if trying to be mobile in adverse conditions like being muddy. I'd trust a magazine picked up from the mud before I'd trust a belt that's been dragged through mud.

>Capacity/reload
The BREN will have to be reloaded more frequently to be sure, but those reloads will be faster, so it's a bit of a tradeoff.

>Barrel change
Gloves needed for MG42, no gloves needed for BREN. A small detail, but a big one if a soldier finds himself without a pair of mits. Then again, just a bit of rag would probably be good enough, so 'meh'.

>Conclusion
Both designs are fantastic, but as the idiot in the vid says, they're pretty much meant for different tasks. BREN is better for being mobile what with its lighter weight and lighter recoil, while the MG42 is superior for defensive work at a fixed position with moving targets where the weight isn't a big issue and time can be taken to get in a comfortable position so as to try and mitigate the issues of recoil as much as possible so that 'sweeps' of rounds will have a better chance of hitting said targets

>>31794502
I like him because he's probably one of the most opinionated people I've seen, but don't find annoying because I can't have a real conversation with him.
Also I have to admire the unabashed shameless autism.

>>31801543
What do you think of History Buff on Youtube? He's not much for firearms though he DID point out an M1919 in his review of... what was it... Lawrence of Arabia? Anyways, for lovers of history, and those who like to look for historical accuracy (or inaccuracies) in historical films, he's a must-see. He truly is.

>>31795985
>e
Cap and Ball is great too
really great for, well, cap and ball stuff, somewhat less great but certainly not bad for more modern stuff

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>>31794730
>uses wiki for gun info

ever

>>31797056
I stopped taking him seriously when he made that video about global warming, which shows how much he talks out of his ass on subjects he knows absolutely nothing about. But also because whenever he made a sword video, Matt Easton had to correct him on half of the points he made. So it's hard to imagine how much shit is wrong on subjects that no one really bothers to correct.

Here is just one example :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWdAxolrqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxNgLIRa64

>>31794502
Lindy is based, he's just really fucking autistic

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>>31794622
>https://theculturetrip.com/south-america/brazil/articles/disguised-in-dance-the-secret-history-of-capoeira/
Rookie.

The sheer quantity of autismal wehrabooism in this thread is astounding. I don't recall Lindybeige being brought up here more than once a month (this is, after all, not exactly an archeology board) until he dared to question the mighty truth of the absolute glory of their precious German weapons.

>>31802668

Because he was fucking wrong?

>>31802668

He was. Maybe you just don't hang out in medieval weapons threads enough, but his videos end up there every time.

>>31802803
Indeed I don't, at least not often. I was referring specifically to threads dedicated to Lindybeige bashing, however.

>>31802668
>you need to be a wehraboo to refute some britbong philistine's third-hand account about guns he's never touched in his life

lel no. I've shot a 42 here in Czechland and an MG3 when we were visiting our Bundeswehr bros in Berlin, and even as a first time shooter I had absolutely no issues hitting man sized targets out to 300m with them.
The German machinegunners could actually squeeze out very short bursts and take down figures out to 4-500m fairly consistently, so some youtube autist's anecdotal bullshit about someone chilling out under "spandau" fire at less than 100m means fucking nothing even if it's true, which I seriously doubt.

>>31802862
You need to be a wehraboo to make daily threads dedicated to some Vlogger giving his opinions on WW2 squad tactics.

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>>31802895

>>31796346
>flew right over your head.
just like a bren shot

>>31800012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgfBL1hz_zw

in the comments

You guys take a YT channel too seriously...

>>31803391
Fuck off Lindy. Your shitty opinions-presented-as-facts are no match for our Superior German Engineering.

>>31803283
Reposting Ian's comment here. I think what he says vs what you guys think he said is very funny actually...

1/2
There are a couple basic misconceptions that are repeated in the video that spurred this followup.

1) The MG34 and 42 are not inherently inaccurate as Lloyd proposes. There would be no problem using a 42 for flanking cover fire during an assault. In addition, the Lafette tripods used with the 34 and 42 are excellent at allowing the guns to be used very precisely at long ranges (much better than the Bren tripod, which was also not used nearly as much). The example of a man prone 80 yards from a 42 being impossible to hit for an extended period it not representative of the gun. It may indicated that the gunner was a very poor gunner, or that he never actually saw and targeted the British soldier, or maybe he just had his sights mistakenly set for a very long distance and never realized it (i.e., not a skilled gunner).

2) The Bren is an accurate weapon, but not to the point of being a flaw. People who say that you cannot provide area fire with a Bren have never fired a Bren - it's easy to do.

>>31803726
A few minor points...

Where does one find people who say the Bren is rubbish? I have never met an informed person who claims this, and most of them consider the Bren a serious contender for best LMG ever made.

The obscure reason the the MG34 continued to be produced until the end of the war was than the 42's barrel changing procedure would not work in the mounts that were built for the 34. Simpler to continue making 34s for vehicular use than to redesign the mounts.

While the 34 and 42 may have been called "Spandau" by some British soldiers, this was not the case in the US (not with the British collectors I know, FWIW). IMO, it is better to use proper names than inaccurate slang. This is why I would not call the MP38 and MP40 "Schmeissers" despite that term being widely used by American troops at the time

For all that, though, Lloyd's original conclusion was basically correct: they are both excellent guns, and not directly comparable because they were used in different ways.

>>31794764
and i cringed at your post

>>31794730
>he never even opened a fucking wiki page, because if he did he would have noticed that the word "Spandau" does not appear anywhere within


>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_42

>The gun was sometimes called "Spandau" by British troops,[11] as was the MG 34, a traditional generic term for all German machine guns, left over from the famous Allied nickname for the MG 08 Maxim-derivative used by German forces during WWI, which was derived from its manufacturer's plates noting the city where some were produced.[12]

>>31802862

You forgot that you arent being shot at. Shells and explosions masking gunshots so you have to rely on visual and the inevitable shitty visibility.

Now that that into account and the mg42 is shown to be a much more defensive weapon

>>31804380

Want to give that thought process another try after you sober out?

fuck him and everyone who looks like him

>>31804169
Then that's new info.

Which is fine, he can call it whatever nickname he likes, he's still factually full of shit

>>31794826
So like, the DSP of weapons?

>says horses were smaller back in the day
>forgets people were also smaller back in the day

cavalry is stupid guys

but honestly he has some good vids, like the ones about shields and greek armor

>>31794502
He's an irrelevant retard.

>>31804380
why would a bren not be affected by those effects as well?

The Bren is a shitty LMG and a shitty DMR, much like the BAR its easily replaced by better options. He is only shilling it cause he is a bong. No I am not a *spandau* fanboy for pointing out that a it actually did its job as a LMG.

>>31803740

Lindy just has a way of pissing people off I think. It's the supercilious upper class British nerd thing probably.

Lindy linked this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyJs6expvT8

Arthur Alphin doing a similar comparison. It's interesting how much more acceptable an officer in fatigues barking at you is than a scrawny British guy in a sweater whinging really is.

>>31805941
Arthur Alphin is not bringing up anacdotical evidence or irrelevent thing such as service year or how one side was winning all the time 1944.

He also used REAL footage of the weapons being tested and used the correct names.

>>31797144
>legit being this mad

>>31794826
>He is inferior to other youtubers when it comes to things outside medieval period.
He's also inferior to other youtubers when it comes to things in the medieval period

5 minutes of integrated advertising per video.

Fuck this guy. As for his presentation skills, he could be completely synthetic, in other words, a character actor, pretending to be a tank autist to get youtube views because [spoiler]it's where the authentic views are at[/spoiler]

>>31794502
>autistic bourgois Britbong runt of a manlet who spergs out over insipid shit, has no social skills/life, gets booty blasted because lefties and people of colour don't like his colonial era heroes, is retarded and inbred

what did I miss?

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>>31794502
The complaints about him are fucking insane. He's called a hard conservative by some, and a regressive by others. A lot of it is to be taken with a grain of salt. However...

I personally cannot comment on the legitimacy of his classical-medieval videos. In pretty much any video about warfare in the modern age, though, he is infuriating. One of his recent videos had him explaining that single-men turrets on tanks are actually, in some ways, superior to multi-man turrets. And that we'll never know which one is wholly superior, because tanks with single-man turrets never faced tanks with multi-man turrets on 'equal footing.'

As a treadhead, this sets me right the fuck off and drives me up the wall.

b-b-but he knows his thing about the Middle-Ages and Classical times, r-r-right ?

>>31798759
>some of those people are going to be pissed, one way or another.
Worse, some of the victims relatives will be in your western country and able to attack your society.

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Would /k/ freak out as much if some autistic kraut on youtube would make a video
>the rootie tootie point and shootie vs. the MG 42
Standing made up facts proofing that the Bren is shit?

>>31794502
>ctrl f
>baka senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR8D2yqgQ1U

>>31808045
Well /k/ allows people to make up stuff that claims the Mosin is practically the worst bolt action of WWII in every way. Allows people to build up the Kar98k as the GREATEST bolt action of WWII in every way. The MG42 is likely the best machine gun ever made for many /k/ommandos, so making up shit about other firearms to make the MG42 seem even BETTER would probably be allowed. In short; if it's considered the best, then it's ok to make it seem even better.

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>>31808292
>The MG42 is likely the best machine gun ever made for many /k/ommandos, so making up shit about other firearms to make the MG42 seem even BETTER would probably be allowed
I don't see a lot of Bren successors around, The MG42 on the other hand...I love the MG3

>>31795978
I dont remember his katana vid, what was wrong about it? He said something about how folding iron was an old method found by Europeans first and the japs only had iron sand, not ore, which is why they had a thick spine iirc

>>31794502
Hey, Lindybeige! If the Bren was an M240b, I'd consider it a rival to the MG42, but it's magazine fed trash! Also too slow, and not as accurate as you think.
Wish I had a 6.5x55 MG42. I'm sure they exist.

>>31796188
He didn't say it literally, but he retells a story of one brit who was suppressed for a few hours by a mg that couldn't hit him. Dood, wheres your thinking ability

>>31808380
Same thing that Mauser fanboys fall back on. "With so many copies, it must be the best!"

>>31807439
On the off chance you're still here, how are his points about single-man turrets incorrect?

Also, if I recall correctly, he flat out said multi-man turrets were better.

>>31808518
It's actually a pretty good reason and I say this as a Bren proponent.

>>31808292
>Well /k/ allows people to make up stuff that claims the Mosin is practically the worst bolt action of WWII in every way.
But it is. Speed of action, magazine capacity, bayonet design, sights, reliability , accuracy, everything was just horrendous. Slavs made everything wrong.

>>31808570
>Speed of action
Cock-on-open and 90 degree bolt turn just like Mauser
>Mag capacity
5 rounds, just like Mauser
>Bayonet design
Socket style, you can't use it effectively in the hand... bayonets are meant to be used at the end of a rifle, not in the hand. It's indeed nice to have the option of using it for either, but having a socket style bayonet attachment still allows the primary use of a bayonet; to turn the rifle into a spear, and the Mosin becomes QUITE a long spear, which is advantageous.
>Sights
Short-radius aperture sights, just like Mauser. Only difference is the front sight is a post instead of a point. Even the method of elevation adjustment is identical.
>Reliability
Just because it's push-feed instead of controlled-feed doesn't make it unreliable, and the issue of rims is a non-issue thanks to the interrupter. You can also load clips a specific way to nullify the chances of it happening.
>Accuracy
Mosins have been taken to 900-1000m before. If there's a difference in accuracy between a Mosin and a Mauser, it's so inconsequential that you'd have to go beyond 1km to even notice.

Now here's some REAL aspects of how a Mosin isn't as good as a Mauser, but they're still on the same level.

>Clips
Mosin clip doesn't eject automatically and is nowhere near as smooth to use. With a specific technique, the clip can be used as quickly, but without that technique it would be much slower.
>Weight
Kar98k is lighter than the M91/30. Perhaps 1lb.
>Length
Kar98k would be more handy in tight areas, but with a 24" barrel it would still be ungainly

All in all, the Mosin and Mauser are mostly the same. Especially with a bent bolt like on the PU M91/30. They feel very very similar in my hands.

>>31808543
But for the sake of argument, one could say that continued production could be because the designs are easier to manufacture instead of there quality overall. IMO that is the case for the Mauser but not the mg 42

>>31808643
>Cock-on-open and 90 degree bolt turn just like Mauser
Straight bolt with, generally, worse machining.
>the Mosin becomes QUITE a long spear, which is advantageous.
Maybe in 1891. Hand weapons got shorter throughout the first and second world wars.

As for the rest I agree with you, though I don't think your underestimation of the impact of the 'convenience' features of the Mauser is apt. Personally I believe the Enfield was the best bolt-action of WW2 because it had far more of those 'features' such as cock-on-close and the magazine. Too bad about the rimmed cartridge.

>>31808698
See, the thing is, the Lee Enfield has features that make more of a difference. Not much difference between a pointed or a post front sight, but the difference between long-radius apertures and short-radius notch-and-post? That's something worth writing home about.

5 round mag vs 10 round mag? Again, that's quite a difference, and it doesn't take twice as long to reload an empty Lee Enfield as it does to reload an empty Mauser. You open the bolt once, go for ammo once, and close the bolt once.

Then there's 90 degree cock-on-open bolts vs 60 degree cock-on-close bolts. That's quite a significant difference as well, especially when added with the ability to shoot without letting go of the bolt. That's how you can manage 2 shots per second rapid fire if you can get the right rhythm going. Personally I don't think there's any difference between turned-bolt or straight-bolt if you still have to move your hand in order to shoot. With both the M91/30 and Kar98k, you need to move the hand in order to fire. I can MANAGE to fire a Kar98k while still holding the bolt, but I have to REALLY stretch my middle finger back to reach the trigger. VERY uncomfortable, and not at all intuitive. The Lee bolt is positioned perfectly for firing without letting go of the bolt.

>>31797302
>whynotboth.jpg

>>31809682
>25lb MG42
>22lb BREN
>12lb 200-rnd belt of 8mm Mauser
>14lb for 7 mags of .303 British (210 rounds)

>73lb

Yeah, have fun with both. Even if you brought it down to a 100-rnd belt for the MG and just 4 mags for the BREN, that's a savings of about 12lb, you're still looking at over 60lb.

>>31794527
>Autism speaks

>>31805412
The poportions by which horses were smaller was drastically greater than that of humans

You have to remember that we selectively breed and genetically engineered horses to be bigger over the last thousand years or so

>>31808665
following to that logic everyone would have an AK, just because it's cheaper than an AR action. And still most developed nations start adopting ARs even France and Germany are going for H&K ARs now

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>>31808643
>Socket style, you can't use it effectively in the hand...
Not only that. Mosin was zeroed with bayonet. Removing bayonet moved POI substantially so users were locked into carry and use rifle with bayonet always on. That made mosin longest, most cumbersome and dangerous to carry WWII rifle.

>>31809744
Ammunition is carried by an MG assistant

>>31808665
.... But anon that's not even correct. The mauser and it's action is the one the strongest and most reliable around.

>>31797499
go back to pol kiddo

>>31796508
I didn't see him do that.

He is a british imperialist. That's actually annoying to me.

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>>31807439

>>31808527
This. His entire video was about how multi-man turrets were so much better. Did you even watch it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV2nIkqnGBI

>>31796238
It absolutley is not more accurate to matter.
The rear sights on a bren arent even fixed in place ffs.

The bren isnt any more accurate to matter, ie a mg 34/42 isnt so innacurate that you miss targets at zero distance.

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>>31811287
There is so much triggering shit in the video

>>31794502
But I love lindy

>>31796139
Scholagladiatoria is pretty good

>>31794502
>I have no personal experience with guns or the military in general but I've read a lot of books!
>My opinion is fact even in spite of this.
>Weird use of terminology.