Falklands

>>31787817
Bongs stationed there would probably love to give it up because it would mean they'd never have to go back.

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>>31787817
It's gonna be General Belgrano 2.0 all over again

>>31787817
Not very, considering what joke of a military Argentina has. They'd get btfo'd quicker than before.

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>>31787817
>How fucked are the Bongs if the Argies go all in to take the Malvinas back?

Argies don't stand a chance. Even if they take the islands, the Brits will just kick their ass again... And this time probably with more international aid.

>>31787817
First Argentina would have to stop their boats from sinking in port.

Second they'd need ammo which isn't expired.

Can't even tell if bait or simply Argie
If you check the Brits, the have double the troops, with triple equipment, but honestly, the falklands are some stupid piece of shitty cold infertile land.

>>31787909
And yet them niggers have been whining about said stupid piece of shitty cold infertile land ever since they've lost the war

Somehow I understand how the chink feels, having that spec of land that caused major diarrhea to the next guy

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>>31787909
>but honestly, the falklands are some stupid piece of shitty cold infertile land.

Euhm, they discovered oil & gas in the surrounding waters a few years ago.

lol the brits will flatten them, our military is
good imo .

>>31787883
>ammo which isn't expired.
>ammo
>expired

>>31787909
>but honestly, the falklands are some stupid piece of shitty cold infertile land.

So just like Britain then.

>>31787941
Munitions can expire you fucking idiot

Why do you think we're not using 7.62 from the Korean war?

>>31787929
>niggers
Argentina is whiter than US mate

>>31787961
You put a seed there and it grows mate, the malvinas are getting dirtier, warmer, and even more infertile.

If we assume for a moment that the Argentinians managed to mobilise without drawing enough attention that we have time to reinforce the garrison, then I'd say the argies have next to no chance of landing any significant force on the islands past the Type 23 and Astute that tend to wonder around, and the 4 typoons will have them fishing for the remains of their airforce long before we even need to use the modern anti air missile system that weren't there last time, when the argies had the same crap, in better condition.

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An interesting thing the Argentinians would have going for them in a round two scenario is that we wouldn't have shed loads of tactical nuclear weapons with us.
Or a delivery system that could do CAP in impossible weather conditions.

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>>31787969
But of course, my white friend

>>31787931
So its it practical? Not for the uk, mobilizing enough equipment to drill it is going to cost a good amount of money and time, and Argentina will not drill it because they are to worried about the 40th anniversary of the first time maradona scored a goal.

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>>31787969

And to be honest, if there was a more pointless war in the history of humanity, im open to hear it.
And let's exclude the Royal tomato war please

>>31787963
>Why do you think we're not using 7.62 from the Korean war?

If properly stored, it likely would work. Also, Korean war was .30-06 really.

Anyway, rockets etc are far more likely not to properly work. Stuff like old argie Exocets (which already had a bad record in the previous war)...

>>31787817
You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger.

How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?

You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.

I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.

Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.

You nigger.

You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.

You are the Baltimore of South America.

Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.

Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.

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>>31788055
Exclusive image of Argentina Ammo Bunkers.

What a shame, thread died.

>>31787817
The Bongs have lost some capability (none that'd actually matter in a Falklands fight anyway) since the 80s, and gained in others. But Argentina reached its peak militarily in the 80s and it's only been downhill since then. Plus the Bongs have a much larger garrison there now.

>>31787817
Well, if by fucked you mean having to deploy massive numbers of troops to:
-conduct search and rescue of drowning argies
-feeding said argies
-somehow stop the enviromental disaster from the fleet sinking
-aid the new argie government that gets put in place following the coup caused by Malvinas 2:Failure Boogaloo

and so on, then yeah. Should at least cause a dent in the UK's humanitarian resources.

What if Argentia filled a container ship with troops and launched a surprise attack?

If the Argies hadn't attacked in the 80s, the Bong government probably would've gave it back to them already.

The dick swinging by the Junta got them into the mess.

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How would they Black Buck Port Stanley today without those beautiful beautiful Vulcans?

Just send some boring Reapers?

>>31788864
They would sink it before it reaches the shore

>>31788996
Sinking a merchant vessel? That's a war crime, obviously the argentines wouldn't tell anyone what they were doing.

>>31789020
Then they would still be pretty BTFO because they would be unable to get any meaningful resupply and would really only take over port Stanley.

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>>31788072
>You are the Baltimore of South America.

>>31788975

Tornados and Brimstone spam.

>>31787941
>>ammo
>>expired
are you retarded? smokeless powder can go bad, making a very awful bleach-like smell

t. had ammo cans filled with .50 BMG start to smell like shit after being loaded with a bad batch of powder ~20 years ago

>>31787817
Bongs would wipe the fucking floor, but it would be Vietnam 2:Electric Boogaloo with the civilian population and transplants protesting killing people.

>>31789020
Sinking a merchant vessel? That's a war crime, obviously the argentines wouldn't tell anyone what they were doing.
Being that the ship would be Argentinian, it would probably sink on its own, way before it leaves the docks.

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>>31788072

>>31788072
Fucking kek

>>31787872
>And this time probably with more international aid.

except they'll start infighting about who gets to claim salvage rights to make Argentina pay debts.

also good chance if argies ever landed they would get btfo by their own landmines.

>>31787817
As fucked as they were last time

>>31788055
>Stuff like old argie Exocets (which already had a bad record in the previous war)...

What are you talking - the Exocets were the biggest threat to the British taskforce and caused most of the damage.

>>31787931
>tfw Trump wins
>tfw the American empire v2 starts at Falklands
>tfw the year is 2045, and the Saudis suicide bomb New Anchorage
>tfw WW4 happens

>>31787817
>Malvina's
Never heard if them mate, where is it?

>>31789822

>As fucked as they were last time

Last time Argentina actually had a pretty good shot at winning. If they hadn't had the issue with the bomb fuses, they could have defeated the British task force.

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>>31788072

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>>31787817

>>31789869
>blatantly ignoring British subs capable of sinking every single Brazilian surface ship

>>31787941
The argentine navy literally has nothing to shoot with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almirante_Brown-class_destroyer

Small arms shit might last, but bigger ordinance really doesn't. (See: USS Forrestal)

>>31789832
Yes.

And they also had multiple misfires and duds.

>>31789869

>le bomb fuse memes

The bombs were rendered unable to detonate properly because the British SAMs forced the planes to fly low.

The bombs not detonating was a result of British anti-air abilities, and they fucking curbstomped the Argies in every other way. The few ship hits were the only thing the Argies ever managed to do worth a damn.

They weren't winning that war.

>>31789832
Exocets are shit when they get old.
>be on the way to multinational exercise
>on our way we practice with three or four boarding teams because diplomacy and shit
>Grand finale is showing them how we shoot a Exocet
>Armory told CO to get rid of two Exocet because they were old
>First one hits the water after 15m
>Second one does like 200m
>'80s-'90s Exocets are useless

>>31789912
He is right though - the Argies scored several hits on British ships but the bombs didn't go off.
Would have been interresting to see after how many losses the Brits would have decided that the Falklands are not worth it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Air_Force#Current_inventory

I think this just about sums it up really. Three A-4s and some turboprop CAS planes (that were shot down with rifle fire last time around) vs four typhoons and a type 45. Not even counting SAMs.

>>31789958
Who says those few bombs (and it really was a handful) would have sunk any warships?

>>31789939
AFAIK the Exocets fired from the Super Etendards had a quite good hit ratio for that time.
Too bad the Argies couldn't wait until they got all the planes and rockets delivered.

>>31789993
Two bombs got antelope. Three got Coventry. It didn't take much.

>>31789869
>Last time Argentina actually had a pretty good shot at winning.

Not even close.

>>31790066

They did.

t. falklands war autist

>>31789993
Well, the Antelope sank after they failed to defuse one bomb that didn't go off immediately.
If they could have damaged the carriers enough to make them inoperable I'm not sure if they would have continued.

>>31790080
So you're both a self-professed autist and also incorrect, well done.

>>31788072
holy fuck, Argentina back to the stone age

>>31789958

The carriers were the critical point, had one or both been damaged the task force would have been forced to return as stated by Rear-Admiral John Woodward.

>>31790101

Great refusal, however the Argentine forces did stand a serious chance. The army, RAF and USN all believe retaking the islands were impossible.

You underestimate how close to breaking point it drove the RN to.

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>>31789869
>Last time Argentina actually had a pretty good shot at winning. If they hadn't had the issue with the bomb fuses, they could have defeated the British task force.

Why do people keep saying this? If every single fucking bomb that hadn't detonated had gone off, the Argentinians would have sunk 4 ships. Out of a fleet of 92.

People speak about the bomb fuses like it was the critical thing that let the British win.

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>>31788072

>>31790137
>The army, RAF and USN all believe retaking the islands were impossible.

Utter bullshit

>You underestimate how close to breaking point it drove the RN to.

Utter bullshit

>>31790086
Weren't there plans for the USS Iwo Jima to be handed over if the carriers were hit?

>>31790148
No

>>31790151
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iwo_Jima_(LPH-2)#Potential_role_in_the_Falklands_War

This was pretty widely reported in the UK.

>>31790168
Why on earth wouldn't that be reported in the USA

>>31790193
Presumably a kardashian farted that day.

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>this entire thread
>mfw

>>31790086

>the carriers

They never hit a carrier.

>>31790199
nobody knew who the fuck they were back then

>>31790145
>Given the distance from Britain to the Falklands, the Chiefs of Staff of both the British Army and the Royal Air Force believed that retaking the islands was unrealistic. Lack of political confidence could have led to an instant Argentine victory, if not for the strong views of others, in particular, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

Yes.

>Utter bullshit

You must be trolling or retarded. Anything on the Falklands points to how dire the situation was for the British.

And before you think I'm some buttblasted Argie, I'm British.

>>31790213
In 2012, when the story actually came out?

>>31790220
>One unsourced quote
>Didn't even bother with names
>Clearly just for dramatic effect to make it seem like Thatcher was the only one willing to fight

Fuck off

Casual weighing in here, winning that war was against all the odds. But we Brits are good at war and we had a crazy bitch calling the shots. Someone post that picture of the insane logistics it took to get our airforce halfway across the globe.

>>31790220
>Anything on the Falklands points to how dire the situation was for the British.

Sounds like you have a massive case of confirmation bias, considering the British won every fight they had.

>>31790248
Read a book m8, this is established historical fact.
7/10 made me reply

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>>31790251
>we had a crazy bitch calling the shots
30 years from now, I'll look back on this time in American history and say the same thing, but it wont be with pride or fond remembrances likr the Brits and Iron Maggie

>>31787963

I have personally fired thousands of rounds of 70+ year old 7.62x54r over the years. You're dumb as shit.

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>>31790251

>Someone post that picture of the insane logistics it took to get our airforce halfway across the globe

You can thank me later

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>>31789869
>If they hadn't had the issue with the bomb fuses

They didn't have an issue with bomb fuses. They weren't detonating because of British fighter and missile coverage forcing the Argentinian aircraft to release bombs too low and too fast to arm.

People like to play this off as a matter of Argentinian incompetence when it was a matter of British military dominance.

>>31790251
>winning that war was against all the odds

Yeah and the Bismark was an unsinkable super ship, why do Brits have to hype up everything their military does? Everyone knows they're one of the best.

>>31790265
So factual it produced a throwaway retroactive anecdote made in hindsight.

>>31790248

Quote source: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/a-war-for-lost-glory-the-falklands-war-1982.html

Stop stating things I haven't stated, you are the one asserting the claim that it was a walk in the part.

It was Henry Leach who pushed Thatcher for the task force, not Thatcher herself.

>>31790257

Not really, by all counts the British should have lost that war. The amount of arsepull to support and arm that task force was done is insane. Without the help of other nations, we could have easily been looking at a loss.

>>31790141

>People speak about the bomb fuses like it was the critical thing that let the British win.

That's because it was the critical thing that allowed the British to win.

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>>31788072
Argentina getting hit with that heat

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>>31790296
This one?

>>31790251
We now have another carzy bitch who would do exactly the same.

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>>31790317
Fucking hell, that's your source?

A blog post that's making the quote up?

>>31790340

I don't know ask the guy that requested it first.

>>31790317
>Quote source: https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/a-war-for-lost-glory-the-falklands-war-1982.html

>Blog
>Written by a fucking nobody
>Literally the opinion of a no-name amateur historian and not historical fact

>>31790321
>This ONE secret tactic allowed teh British to win!

Don't you have a Buzzfeed top five list to be reading?

>>31788072
>You are the Baltimore of South America.
Fucking goddamn kek!

>>31790340
Yes thank u kindly

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>>31787909
Argie here: My compatriots have been butthurt over that for fucking ever "because the evil English Devils" (whom we so bravely fought repelled when we were tryna be a country and stuff). It's more of a hivemind than anything else. Nobody understands what the fuck happened with those rocks

>>31788974
>And there's people who support them and want them back

Of course they didn't live the horrors of the time, what with getting caught in the street with no ID/by a military guy in a bad mood, taken hostage and being tortured for a few days, and ,if lucky, released alive and without life-changing (physical) injuries

Wish it would've never happened, Argentina is a country in great part because the British built the factories and infrastructure that the natives and most people who remained aren't capable of coming up with (or maintaining, even)

>The country's most important train station was made by the British, and is poorly maintained
>The original, (1913 vintage, if I remember correctly) emergency hydraulic dampers, when (not if) the trains have brake failures, at the end of the railroads, are still there. The Queen knows if they work properly, though

Fooken 'ell

>>31790363
Using literally the entire tanker fleet to get one bomber from Ascension to Stanley and back again.

For when you absolutely, positively have to prove a point.

>>31788072
A pasta to rival metal gear.

>>31790358
>>31790375
>shall not forget that Wednesday evening. I was working in my room at the House of Commons when I was told that John Nott wanted an immediate meeting to discuss the Falklands. I called people together. In Peter Carrington's absence Humphrey Atkins and Richard Luce attended from the Foreign Office, with FCO and MOD officials. (The Chief of Defence Staff [Sir Terence Lewin ] was also away, in New Zealand). John was alarmed.
>He had just received intelligence that the Argentinian Fleet, already at sea, looked as if they were going to invade the Islands on Friday 2nd April. There was no ground to question the intelligence. John gave the MOD's view that the Falklands could not be retaken once they were seized. This was terrible, and totally unacceptable. I could not believe it: these were our people, our islands. I said instantly: "if they are invaded, we have got to get them back".

http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=109110

Straight from the woman herself. Memoirs are a credible source.

have you checked the Argentine military lately???? the fuckers are broke. they literally have no fighter planes since the shit A-4AR got taken out of service

also no one will sell them western weapons because of the UK so their only choice is to buy Russian or Chinese

also they are broke

Argentina going "all in" is even less than they had when they took the Islands in 1982.

And back then they were fighting 30 marines.

>>31790422
Such a lust for pasta
BUT WHOOOOOOOOOO???????

>>31790456
I stand corrected

Thanks for going to the trouble to find a proper source

>>31790544

Not a problem.

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>>31787817
Argies are fucked. It's a matter of principle. Take a look at to what extremes Britain went to regain control: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Black_Buck

>>31790293
Of course you have, you fucking retard

One question is bothering me. Argies seen how fucked their bombs are and also they run out of Exosets. Brits pushed French to stop sells of other missiles. So, why didn't Argentina called USSR for help?

>>31790307
>Why do Brits have to hype up everything their military does?

Because that's what every nation does? Makes a victory more impressive it it's reported that victory came against all odds. On the other hand if you dismiss a enemy and lose, the defeat is even ore humiliating.

>>31791119

It has been claimed that the Soviets gave Argentina access to satellite images during the conflict, but that was the full extent of their support. The Soviets had no interest in getting involved in the war.

>>31791119
Most likely because if they turned to the USSR it would almost guarantee the US would get involved.

>>31791119
In what way did massively increasing tensions with the west benefit the Soviet Union?

>>31791175
I mean just pure business, like with Iraq and Iran, when US and USSR were happily selling weapon to both sides.

>>31789661
Mate the islands entire population is white British... it always has been. They voted unanimously to stay part of the UK in a referendum a few years ago

>>31791119

>Yo Gorbachev.......wanna lean me some ships? Preferably ones that can't be easily sunk be submarines?

>>31791221
There was no way they would have gotten a weapons deal negotiated and the goods delivered before the war ended. And this is assuming the US doesn't start throwing its weight around because the last thing it wants is communism spreading in south america.

>>31791263
>There was no way they would have gotten a weapons deal negotiated and the goods delivered before the war ended.
Good point. Today is different, Russians and Belorussians sold and delivered Su-25 to Iraq less than for 30 days.

>>31791288
To be fair, Russia has so many surplus Su-25s they don't really have to take time to build any more, and Iraq is fairly close to Russia, rather than being an ocean and a continent away.

>>31788072
>Orangutans
>In the Amazon
Otherwise butthurt Ariges/10, Falklands are British Clay

Falkland newfag here, i faintly remember a teacher of mine telling a story about Bongland's victoy being partly due to France not selling anti-ship missiles to Argentina.

Any thruth to that?

>>31788052
Football war was fought in South America and triggered by a defeat in soccer.

>>31791588
Yes. Due to the UN censure. Please read Max Hasting's Battle for the Falklands for a first hand journalist's view of the conflict. In the book, you will read about how touch and go the whole thing for the Brits in terms of internal and external politics, military downsizing, logistics and the sheer surreal nature of the war to the British public. Look also for the part where Hastings compared the sight of British sailors to their predecessors during WWII in the Battle of the Atlantic. Gave me chills.

>>31787817
The Argies are worst off than the Poms.

>>31790317
>Not really, by all counts the British should have lost that war. The amount of arsepull to support and arm that task force was done is insane. Without the help of other nations, we could have easily been looking at a loss.

Yeah, no. The British are grand masters of military arse pull. Sure, they fuck it up from time to time. But you look at Dunkirk, you look at the Battle of Britain, you look at Rorke's Drift... you'd have to be a fucking idiot to assume the British are gonna lose just because they're the underdogs. When it comes to arse pull, the British roll deep.

And yes, the British have friends in the world. They have allies and interested parties willing to help. Because the British roll deep.

It was never as simple as "by all counts the British should have lost that war". The Argies should have known that and planned for it. Their sorry off-brand imperialist asses didn't, and they got served like they deserved

>>31791119
>>31791119
Because the dictatorship (like most of the ones in south america at the time) was put in place in order to repel the soviet aided guerrillas that seeked to take control of south america. The whole region was fighting a puppet war between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R.

>>31788864

We have an air base there. We would sink the lamaniggers before they got close.

>>31787817
They aren't fucked at all?

>>31788014
> mobilizing enough equipment to drill it is going to cost a good amount of money and time,
> thinking this is how economies or enterprise works
ma fucking sides

>>31788072

>You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation

I am in fucking tears, thank you good sir, I needed this

>>31787817
Theoretically they would win but they're such cucks now a days that I doubt they'd fight for it.

>>31788052
The war of the bucket in the Balkans was fucking hilarious