Good morning Gentlemen. General Arty thread. Would be cool if

>>31786566
inb4 people pretending they cant hear

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Sharing what random nonsense I have acquired over time.

>>31786574
"WHAT." I actually just took an audiogram a few days ago, turns out my hearing is shit, and is on the decline. Old crusty fuck told me I better start wearing my earpro lol

>>31786574
WHAT?!

PASS YOU A BEER!?

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Any requests? Any questions? Definitely not the smartest motherfucker, but I might know a thing or two.

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Post hiqh quality footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbChtOr2xM

>>31786591
I THINK HE SAID HES A QUEER

>>31786566
ARTIES DEAD?????? HOW?

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>>31786607
That pic, how?

>>31786607
What is going on here?

>>31786613
NO HE WANTS IT IN THE REAR I THINK

>>31786639
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

>>31786632
They're having a gander at an upturned gun.

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Charge 5 Hotel

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Another Charge 5 Hotel... Looking for some videos of firing I have...

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Also shot baby arty!

>>31786647
OH ABOUT A COUPLE OF MILES

>>31786726
>woodland net in the desert
For what purpose?

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>>31786779
Its what we deployed with. Only nets we had. And something to do with radar jamming nonsense I don't know.

>>31786779
And it actually wasn't very desert in Iraq, It had a lot of vegetation.

>>31786817
Doesn't matter when the net is in the middle of a sandpit, just makes it easier to see from the air.

>>31786842
ISIS doesn't have air, so I mean it really doesn't matter.

>>31786776
WHAT'S THIS ABOUT THE RIVER NILE ?

>>31786899
WHAT?

>>31786887
They do have quadcopters and shit though.

>>31786899
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WANTS THE RIVET, GILES

I also like artillery, please to more pictures

>>31786924
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FROGS ??

>>31786726
why all the fused joes?

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>>31786914
They do, but them seeing us and what we had didn't really matter. Their rockets were pretty inaccurate,and whenever they sent ground troops up to us the usually took their s-vests off, or ran away. The 15 - 25 guys that did go through with it, got fucking smoked by pretty much everything lol. I did hear some shit about them making drone IED's now, and thats pretty scary, but we never encountered an ISIS drone out there. We heard shit about them using them, and the ISF shot at our drone thinking it was ISIS.

>>31786928
Of course

>>31787022
WHAT

>>31786779
many deserts bloom during the wet season

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Not really Artillery related... But check this fucker out, I don't know how many of these bitches we found out there. We had them fight each other/other insects and animals.

>>31786981
OKAY SO WE GOTTA GO RIVER DANCING WITH CLOGS? WHY? AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO BE FIRING AT THE EMBANKMENT?

>>31787022
we fused and removed the grommets on the projectiles that was needed for current fire mission only.
the rational was to prevent a goatfuck in the event of counterbattery fire or a march order.

>>31787102
"current mission"

>>31787138
yes as soon as a fire mission was called we could fuse joes, not beforehand.

>>31787075
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING

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is someone who served as M109 crew here?

>>31787197
By the book we fuse up 10 and place em on the ready board. But we fused up everything we could because we shot so fucking much and knew exactly what we were gonna shoot before hand. My gun Never shot PGK or Excalibur, but my battery shot a few, pretty fucking sweet to shoot a moving VBIED with a PGK fuse...

>>31787075
Just looking at that made me itchy.

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>>31787215
IT'S A FUCKING CAMEL SPIDER

https://youtu.be/ca9HXAoV7Zw

maybe it was already posted

>>31787237
JESUS FUCK KILL IT

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>>31787226
No.

>>31787265
Holy shit its horrible.

>>31787251
Are they firing a single gun just randomly into the city?

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>>31787251
Exactly what they shot at us while we were in Iraq. Not fun.

>>31787265
Also, fuck this. That just looks shitty lol

>>31787228
okey dokey, guess things have changed some since i pumped hot steel down range.
carry on.

>>31787315
What is with the "joes" thing? Is this some Army term or not American?

does anyone have footage of the receiving end of barrage fire?
>>31787251 was good, but im looking for lots of shells very fast

>>31787347
Similiar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUvcdKGD-FM

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Arty is shit because it isnt accurate. The only time it is worth shit is in a video game like Men of War where you can use it to scare your opponent into not advancing.

>>31787338
joe's is short for projoe's which is a corruption of projectile.
got it?
redleg slang

>>31787375
Hmm. Okay then lol.

>>31787374
We hit a moving truck, You must be Acoustic.

>>31787375
American military slang is stupid.

>>31787397
Better than the Krauts that's for sure.

>>31787397
Agreed.

>>31787374
expert opinion here, listen up folks.
>The only time it is worth shit is in a video game like Men of War
what fuckin' rock do you guys crawl out from?
big boys are talkin' here so shut the fuck up.

>>31787406
What kind do the krauts have?

>>31786566
>M777A2 is superior boomstick in combat, Prove me wrong
It's not self-propelled.

>>31787448
It doesn't need to be.

>>31787397
maybe not the most original, but it works(the whole point of slang).

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>>31787448
Doesn't need to be.

>>31787463
Yeah, but it's still stupid how most of the slang seems to be just random words corrupted in some non-sense way.

>>31787464
That's awesome.

>>31787086

WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME TOO SPANK IT?

>>31787512
JOHNSON GOT AIDS FROM THAT SKANK?

>>31787462
Yes it does for any conflict more involved than pissant COIN. 777s are the main reason SBCTs cannot actually fulfill their intended roles in symmetrical warfare.

>>31787698
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE FIRING OF A BATTERY OF M777A2 HOWITZERS. FDC SHOULD COME TO THE GUNLINE AND BE A LITTLE LOUDER NEXT TIME.

>>31787397
implying that killing one's fellow man doesn't assume a certain level of stupidity.

>>31787698
fuck faggots and their field manual buzzwords. struker brigades have embedded mortars and jtac. the m777s can/should be able to setup in 3 minutes and provide fire support out to 22km. therefore you are a faggot.

>>31786566
>Towed artillery
>[CURRENT YEAR]

Enjoy counter battery m8

I'm thinking of enlisting as Army NG after college in the hopes of being 13B. Good idea?
>actually plan on working a desk job when I'm not with the NG
>just want to do anything fun that isn't being stuck behind a fucking computer

>>31787698
Then why are the 777s deployed in SBCTs?

>>31787528
WHAT? LOAD HEAT, ENEMY TANK!

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Anyone know if it's actually true that Russians still aren't using fire correction?

>>31787796
Set up in 3, shoot in 5, die in 10 because Russia fields CB radars

>>31787815
Self-Propelled = $$$

>>31787815
They cost a lot less than SPGs.

>>31787796

22km sounds rather low by modern standards. But the M777 is pretty light so I assume there is a tradeoff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHIWjURK2-g

>>31787906
22km is just fine

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>>31786602

A-26 de H95 FFE, k

Grid 14SND4666837049 alt 530 k

3 rds 50/50 WP k

>>31787869
Yes and what makes you think that we didn't have CB radars?

>>31787906
It's the range of a standard HE/HE-FRAG shell. A BB shell would push the figure to about 36km.

Besides the 52-cal version is going to be introduced in near future. A 52-cal M777 could shoot standard munition up to 30+ km

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>>31786607
>that one dipshit messing around with the fucking spent casing

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>>31787869
Took IDF many times, We actually had 3 different radars. Picked up the POO and shot back pretty much instantly because Habib likes to shoot his rockets from one fucking spot. Lucky him, he sat there too long one day in his rocket truck firing at us and in the middle of incoming we lobbed some HE his way and fucked him up. We were laid right on the data lol

>>31787980
Doing his job, you mean?

>>31786566
Any USMC mortarman here?
I just found out we use the same mortars.

>>31788047
Jesus Christ fuck that shit.

>>31788071
I know some, are you talking about the 120s? Heard the mortars guys were going to take our 120s.

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>>31786566
Any USMC mortarman here?
Just found out we use the same mortars.

>>31788112
What's with the donuts on the shanks?

Propellant?

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>>31788047
Somehow I think we need more towed 155mm howitzer though since there's only like 28 of these and the older FH-70 is being phased out

While getting the 777 would be ideal, I think korean KH-179 would be suffice to complement the G5.

It's cheap too (about 1 million dollar each). Our neighbour bought dozens of KH-179

>>31788078
?

>>31788128
Its taking 4 cocksuckers to load that round. That's ridiculous.

>>31788071
Fucking phone.
>>31788085
Yeah those. I've read that you had some magical gps guided round for it too, have you ever used those?

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>>31788128

>>31788123
Yup. You select the charge by adjusting the number of those donuts.

>>31788142
For the 120's i don't know of a GPS guided round, but I heard something like that was in the making. Talk about efficient firing, these mortars are awesome. If we could just get more than 15 rounds... Have fun with them, they're really skate. The only shitty part is there is no coverage for your gear, or a place to sleep. Have fun sleeping sitting up in the ITVs

>>31788193
>Have fun sleeping sitting up in the ITVs
If it's warm and you get multiple hours of sleep, it's not so bad.

>>31788138
It's 3 actually.

It's a 6-man team which is a standard

>>31788193
>Have fun sleeping sitting up in the ITVs
Hah, I can imagine that.
Ours are usually towed by an APC with 70 rounds inside though.

>>31788208
It is literally terrible, what are you talking about.
>>31788217
777 Takes one man to load?
>>31788223
What is APC? Where are you at that you're getting 120s?

>>31788241
>It is literally terrible, what are you talking about.
That sleeping whilst sitting up is by far better than not sleeping, or sleeping for 30 minutes in the cold.

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>>31788241
I mean this configuration

>>31788264
You're not wrong... But, Still as an artilleryman I prefer a 7 ton. Not this little fucking clowncar I have to stuff 4 men in.

>>31788290
So you aren't from the US

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>>31788306
What kind of clown cars do you have?

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>>31788306
Also, do you not have tents? You can stuff ~22 men into one of these. Spooned up tight, balls to ass, no homo.

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>>31788334
These.
>>31788357
Nope. Nothing out there, Its used as a raid element. So its sent in with air, Shoots some missions, then leaves.

>>31787978
Oh, Im a Swede and we have pretty much only used BB since the 70s when we invented it so that might be why I didnt think 22km sounded far.

>>31788306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U97MezTTV4
How the hell do you stuff 4 guys, their equipment and 18 rounds in this go cart

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>>31788369
>Nope. Nothing out there, Its used as a raid element. So its sent in with air, Shoots some missions, then leaves.
A small tent doesn't weigh much, or take a lot of space. You could easily drop a small one like pic related with it.

>>31788380
Good fucking question man...

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>>31788380
>The mightiest military on Earth doesn't have tents for its troops
What the hell? Seriously.

>>31788384
We have tents, but its seriously so much of a pain in the ass to use. We usually set up some tarps into some makeshift tent, with a sleeping bag on the ground. People sleep ontop of the truck, under the mortar, in the trucks. When you only get a couple hours of sleep it doesn't really matter. Usually up at night shooting anyway, and sleeping on the gun during the day with the bullshit air shoots.

>>31788319
No shit

>>31788405
Yeah, I guess it doesn't get too cold in the South wherever. What would you do were it to be freezing though?

>>31788413
Ah, that's my bad, thought you were the one talking about USMC Mortars. I really dig that vehicle though, USMC should adopt it. But I guess our reasoning for the mortar is an internally transportable weapon system, so that wouldn't fit into our Mv-22s

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>>31788405
>We have tents, but its seriously so much of a pain in the ass to use
Discovered those things last time I went on the field. 3 seconds flat to deploy, 3 minutes tops to pack it up.
Comfy sleep is sacred.

>>31788445
So what do you do if it's freezing?

>>31788425
Its a VAB from the 70s or something, nothing advanced. Do you stuff that ITV and a 120 in a MV-22? Thats pretty impressive

>>31788459
Sleep in the truck with the heat on lol

>>31788445
Seems legit, where do I get?

>>31788463
Yes sir, Takes up all the fucking space, but gets it where it needs to go. Interesting concept on paper, but harder to do IRL.

>>31788459
Light a candle inside your helmet.
Not kidding.

>>31788459
I have also said "fuck it" and just slept on the cold icy ground. But that was a terrible idea and was never done again. Also last day in the field so why not..

>>31788380
i like this towed mortar
wonder if they're being made to pull the sight off and trigger fire the tube because of the accident 5 years ago
would like to see a platoon setting up and firing these for real

>>31788491
What if the temperature goes below -30C/-22F?

>>31788501
Can you comfortably sleep on the ground in summer there?

>>31788480
Thats legit cool. Our airmobile battalion only gets 81mm mortars, and no vehicles (perhaps a quadbike but thats about it)

>>31788525
Swede here, we sleept in unheated 4 man tents in -35 C for a week

It was a bit cold, but its not a huge problem if you had a good sleeping bag.

>>31788525
>What if the temperature goes below -30C/-22F?
Igloo is your best bet.
>>31788522
>wonder if they're being made to pull the sight off and trigger fire the tube because of the accident 5 years ago
What happened? I was surprised by that too.
Did someone lose an eye?

>>31788553
>Igloo is your best bet.
So there's no actual, existing solution for it?

>>31788548
What kind of tents are they?

>>31788560
Shiiieeet, those are still in service? I've only ever seen one rusting away as a glorified flower pot

>>31788564
Why is it so complicated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyxzFVgz70M

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>>31788562
>What kind of tents are they?

Pic related

>>31788522
Yeah so the sight reason, was because the first 5 shots were fucking up the sights. So after the baseplate digs in a couple shots you keep the sight mounted. And automatic fire is authorized by battalion commander only, unless he is absent, then its battery commander. But that is why we can't fire on automatic regularly.
>>31788525
Oh yes, its at least 85 F with 100% humidity every night here. You can do it all year long not really comfortably though. No part of the field is really "comfortable"

>>31788530
Damn, that's pretty shitty. Its cool but lots of prep and bullshit. 81's are sweet just the right size IMO, 120's seem too big for what they want us to use them for, but bigger boom is what they really want I suppose.

>>31788548
Sounds about right!

>>31788562
>So there's no actual, existing solution for it?
I know there are plenty of solutions to deal with extreme cold like this, but I've never trained for this.
Good sleeping bag+ tent and a mat to isolate yourself from the ground seem like the bare minimum to conserve heat though.

>>31788582
How airtight are they? Our tents in the FDF are pretty much completely open so you start needing a small flame when it goes to negative thirties. The army sleeping bags are only rated for -25, IIRC.

>>31788579
These guys are struggling LOL

>>31788553
>Did someone lose an eye?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/21/marines-mortar-accident-training/4739357/

>>31788574
To be replaced by M109A4s tho

>>31788589
>Good sleeping bag+ tent and a mat to isolate yourself from the ground seem like the bare minimum to conserve heat though.
Yeah. Pine branches are the go-to solution to isolate yourself from the soil.

>>31788595
It would be too easy for the artillerymen otherwise.

>>31788588
>Oh yes, its at least 85 F with 100% humidity every night here. You can do it all year long not really comfortably though. No part of the field is really "comfortable"
Here in Finland where I live, you can't really sleep on the ground ever. It gets too cold at night and you'll just wake up shivering.

>>31788602
What do you mean?

>>31788590
If it's the same I'm using in the Swedish military it's the Hilleberg Keron 4. Very good tent, just bring a good sleeping bag.

>>31788609
I can only imagine how all you other guys must feel. It seems like its only cold and wet where you all are, yet we fight in the shit desert?

>>31787809
>>31787809
From who? You think IS can hit anything with the junk improv arty and bottle rockets?

>>31788596
That wasn't the story I have heard. We heard there was a french artilleryman who didnt jump off the stool in time. (watching the round go down the tube) and shot through his face. But I actually had no idea that happened.

>>31788590
We got new bags a few years ago that are really good. The old ones sucked dong. Problem was that i was part of a recon/strike element that mainly moved by foot/skis so all the stuff we wanted with us had to into the backpack. That included the tent and sleeping bags.

This meant that a lot of people used the old lighter bag unless it was super cold.

>>31788633
Well I have seen some pretty legit mortars made from some Syrian rebels using a 120mm tank barrel.

>>31788619
Yeah, thats it.

What unit btw?

>>31788596
What. So they pull the sight out to signify there's a round in the tube?
That's actually the purpose of the red cockring here >>31788112 , it stays on the muzzle so you know immediately it's loaded.
>>31788464
>Seems legit, where do I get?
You may be out of luck in the US, all I can find is a recall because it doesn't comply with some safety requirement or something.
Shit has changed my life on the field for the better though, usually I'd just hang a tarp and hope for the best.

>>31788633
So the US is never going to do symetrical warfare again?

>>31788669
Probably will at some point. The process of going back to symmetric warfare from COIN is going to be painful.

>>31788640
>We heard there was a french artilleryman who didnt jump off the stool in time.
That's not what happened though. The round misfired and he stupidly looked inside the tube. It went off right at that moment.

Well at least it didn't last long with a 120mm hole in the brain.

>>31788658
Amf.

>>31788659
Do those red bands come prepped on the rounds?

I thought the significance of the sight removal was to keep accurate sight picture, not mess with the sights internals.

>>31788677
Were all waiting for it, I see it happening and then making some real men out of the US military. Our guys are sick of this insurgency fight.

>>31788683
Ahhh, I see. Well then thank you for the clarification.

>>31788695
Ok, thats cool, know a dude who lied about his preformance to be able to join Amfs mortar unit. No idea if he is still around.

I was on F21.

>>31788698
>Do those red bands come prepped on the rounds?
Nah, you have to put them manually.
And I learned those shitty plastic things are paid for 10€ each, I shit you not.
>I thought the significance of the sight removal was to keep accurate sight picture
I don't know, for me, removing the sight each time seem like the perfect occasion to fuck up the values you set on it accidentally.
We use a different goniometer though.

>>31788659
there are at least 2 guys standing by the mortar so there shouldn't be any guess work as to whether or not a bomb is in the tube... marines are just stupid as fuck

i imagine the sight being removed is for that reason because the sights are manufactured to stand up to the concussion of these weapons. they're like babies.

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>>31788727
Really? Assuming you're required?
We have nothing like that. It's actually really easy to lose track of rounds fired / in the tube, but usually with mortars we know. Our firing isn't super fast, because of our FDC.

Also with removing the sights, yeah we could fuck up the reading. But its only the first 5 shots, Some stupid rule we have. We have a shock absorbing sight mount...

>>31788763
>>marines are just stupid as fuck

Yes.

>>31788716
And that's why you should always call the applicants former boss and do an independent physical test. However, the difficulty of amf and how "hard" it is is generally overrated in my regard. The only thing different is the weight of your bag and that isn't difficult, only painful, to train.

>>31788784
The weight of the bag is probably not an issue, we did regular patrols with LK100s stuffed to the max. It was more a case of that you needed to have worked for atleast a year to apply, preferably more. He had only done something like 8 months.

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Mv-22

>>31788837
That thing has a minigun right?

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Back when we first got our mortars, Not really understanding how to work the shit.

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>>31788860
It might be able to have that, But I always saw a 240B on them.

>>31788872
Strange to see those mortars factory new, ours are 35 years old on average... But heh. Shit works rather well.

>>31788889
Okay. It might only have been a concept

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>>31788860
Pic

>>31788900
Our 120mm mortars is called Grk m/41

Thats m/41 as in 1941...

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Well I can't post the picture of it, But I was wondering if any of you gents use a hardwired radio for Comms? Were still using shit from the Korean war, just wondering if that's the Norm for everyone...

>>31788900
Well I think they refurbished. I was told they were built in the fucking 60's or 70's But I have no idea. My battery just got a refurbished 777 that had a serial number of 0027 so that's neat. Were on like 07xx series now.

>>31788905
Great concept, fuck the 240B I want to see this thing destroy everything in its path! This this should be used better than it really is.

>>31788822
Ah, well that changes everything. I understand the idea of requiring the applicants to work for a full year before applying to some of these "non-standard" positions so that they are fully trained and well experienced infantrymen, excluding the need to train someone in that as well, but I've met too many idiots that have worked for several years and some very good soldiers that have only worked half a year. If he's a good soldier it shouldn't have been a problem. Mortarmen arn't always seen as the most intelligent people after all, moving a grenade 1 meter from a case to a pair of hands isn't a difficult job. Just tiring.

>>31788889
What's that scope thing? Is that a theodolite? Doesn't the 777 orient itself via GPS/inertial?

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>>31788942
The scope thing on the ground is a collimator, its basically a grid inside that you can see through the guns sights. So when you pick up displacement it tracks it for you and you correct it with that. Like aiming posts but more accurate. That's for shooting iron sights, we have digital fire control system, which gets the data from the fire direction center, and computes it by gps and everything else telling us where to shoot. And bassically you don't have to do anything other than turn the wheel until it tells you to stop. But if that breaks you use "Iron sights"

>>31788919
Well, if it isn't broken...
Actually, we still have an emergency sight in service that dates back to... Hold on to your butts... 1888. The thing is made of copper and really would make a nice museum piece, I've never used it but it's still officially in service.

>>31789021
What the fuck, do you have pictures? I would love to see that. And that goes on the Grk m/41?

>>31788991
Neat.
It's a shame, but our CAESAR doesn't have any back-up system if the firing computer is out. The only sight you can put on it is, well, for direct fire.
Otherwise it's either GPS or inertial guidance (in case GPS can't be relied upon).

>>31789044
That's shitty, does your GPS go down often? Seems like our DFCS is always down... How is your direct fire?

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>>31789033
It's that thing. Though to be fair, it was slightly upgraded, by which I mean they adapted the attach points, in... 1950.

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>>31789076
Oh shit, we use something just like that, we call it a gunner quadrant. Use it for danger close missions or precise firing.

>>31789044
Also your CAESAR reminds me of our HIMARS, except yours is a cannon, and ours is rockets. Same deal though. How the fuck do you direct fire that being attached to a vehicle?

>>31789072
>That's shitty, does your GPS go down often?
Nah, it's not really that. 99% of the time we use the GPS unless we specifically train with the inertial system. It's just that doctrinally, we have to be able to continue being effective if for whatever reason the GPS system goes down, the satellites are shot off, it's jammed... Or even if the US don't approve of something we do and decide to turn the off switch.
It's basically a contingency that results in a computerized gyroscope that's worth a sportscar.

>>31789109
>How the fuck do you direct fire that being attached to a vehicle?
There's a small mount for a scope on the side, and you depress it on either side of the cabin.

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>>31789117
Sweet, sounds like us. But we throw sights and other shit in there to make things really fucking fun and hard.

Radio I was talking about before

>>31789128
Does the cabin get in the way in any instance or is it like can be fired either way?

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>>31789152
Heh. When I was at the academy we used those, though the academy is pretty much the last place it still serves. It's from the late 60's.
Now though we have all the PR4G family of radiotransmitters, which does numeric, frequency evasion, encryption, etc... But since we're basically lazy fucks we use it in analog frequencies because fuck setting those thing up.

>>31789213
Lol, and if your radio goes out how do you fix it?
I have seen a guy beat a set with another set to get it to start functioning again.

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>>31789152
>>31789213
How is it possible that these things are still in use in supposedly modern militaries?

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>>31789246
We have other (Better) radios. We only use these for internal comms. Hardwired together. I have no fucking clue why when we encrypt EVERY other fucking radio anyway.

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>>31789246
Shit works, yo.
We use this, now. Along with a handheld version that has all the crypto and frequency evasion features, though not the datalink.

>>31789285
We need that fucking thing, Shit looks tight.

>>31789274
>We only use these for internal comms. Hardwired together.
Oh shit. Didn't notice that there was no antenna.

>>31786602
where can i learn about arty/ mortar targeting setup and targeting procedures

>>31789333
Explain yourself trips!?

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>>31789274
>We have other (Better) radios. We only use these for internal comms. Hardwired together. I have no fucking clue why when we encrypt EVERY other fucking radio anyway.
External comms going through a proper comms station, right?
It's not about encrypting, it's to minimize the amount of radiation coming from your site, protect it from jamming and SIGINT.
We do the same in the FDF, but we're not suffering from Wunderwaffen-syndrome so we've got proper field phones instead of F-35s. Takes fucking forever building the cable lines in thigh-deep snow.

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Can someone blackandwhitepill me on the sticky guns?

>>31786779
The title fertile crescent isn't ironic.

>>31787397
Its extremely simple and easy to learn. Just call everything "donkey dick"

>>31788123
arent they called cheese charges

>>31787226

Yes. What would you like to know? Granted I only served in the guard but still.

>>31789391
Hah! I lol'd

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>>31789367
That's "The Dictator" a siege mortar used in the Siege of Petersburg in the American Civil War. Fired almost three miles, it was huge, and caused more psychological damage than physical. It is still located at the Petersburg Battlefield park, near the visitor's center.

Also, pic related, it's one of my guns, I'm a Paladin PL, so any questions or whatever, go ahead.

1) Is targeting electronic or manual? Looks anciently mechanical to my untrained eye.

2) Is arty used for suppression or just exterminating everything with a pulse?

3) How accurate are those things? Like what's the CEP at 5km?

4) Aren't they sitting ducks for an attack helo?

5) Any pictures of what an arty round does to a human body?

>>31790097
Im going to assume you mean OPs pic of a M777 since you didnt quote anyone.

>1
Manual
>2
Mostly a pulse thing. Thats why MRSI is so big of a deal. Suppresion hasnt been on a large scale used since WW1 AFAIK
>3
You would rarly fire at a range of 5 km, but at that range pretty accurate. It all comes down to what ammunition is used.
>4
Towed arty sort of is, but they are not deployed alone. If AHs is a problem they will be protected.
>5
Cant post them here since blue board

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>muhreen arty fag

Who /pulgas/ here?

>>31790319
What battery??
When did you go through Ft. Sill

>>31789575
>I'm a Paladin PL
you have a history or English degree? everyone with a useless degree ends up in the combat arms

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Bumping for Arty again.

>>31790559
More like dumping for Arty

>>31788031
Curious what that job is.

>>31790571
Touche
>>31790582
As am I, still no one has clarified

>>31787265
BORE EVAC AINT WORKING PROPERLY

>>31791503
WHAT ABOUT A WORKING PARTY?

>>31789575
no questions, just a statement.

fuck you and all you stand for.

I'm in a stryker brigade and this medium towed bullshit is for the birds. thank your lucky stars to be mechanized.

>>31787075
Fuck camel spiders! Fuck you! Fuck the place they're from! I hate those fucking things!

>>31791593
Im from the US... That was in Iraq.

>>31791514
YOU WANT TO FUCK TOM HARDY?

>>31791699
YOU FUCKED TOM AT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY?

>>31791699
I THINK HE SAID HE WANTS TO FUCK A HARPY

>>31791747
YOU WANT TO BECOME A SWAMI?

>>31791797
NO NO HIS MOM MADE HIM SOME SALAMI

>>31791810
HE FUCKED HIS MOMMY?

>>31791842
POOH LIKES HONEY? EVERYONE KNOWS BEARS LIKE HONEY DUH

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>>31786566
>Arty
>Combat

We got a fire mission and we executed then smoked and drank until the tenitus went away

>>31792040
Sounds about right.

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>>31786566
Wheres the Vietnam artillery at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWWDKZ-kydE

>>31792164
Good question, I don't have any. Would be interested in looking at it!

>>31786566
Artillery is for bitch boys

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>>31786566
>Pic is related, M777A2 is superior boomstick in combat, Prove me wrong.

Not the 52 caliber version being made.

>>31791562
I understand, I trained on the 119 and 777 at BOLC, towed is a way bigger pain in the ass. If it makes you feel better, they call the 109 a "system of systems" and at least one of those systems is fucked up at any given time. Guns go offline all the time. Towed is much simpler tech

>>31790377
Full disclosure, I'm a Natty Guard, I'm a lawyer the rest of the month. Blowing stuff up from a distance is a side gig.

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I kinda really want one of these now that they're off the NFA list. Can't find any for sale for cheap, though.

>>31792914
Can someone explain this 52 caliber thing to me? I'm not understanding? Just looks like a longer tube.

>>31795030
That's exactly what this means.

>>31795030
caliber in big guns means the barrel length

a 155mm gun that is 52 calibers means the barrel is 155mmx52 long

>>31795063
155 x 52 that is

>>31795052
>>31795063
Right cool, So what is the difference? When will we be using them? I have not heard anything about this...

This may be more of a doctrinal issue but eh

I was recently looking into the balance of forces in the baltic area and noticed Finland has relatively fuckhuge amounts of artillery in active service. More towed pieces than any other European country and more SPGs than Britain for example.
Why would they have such a disproportionate artillery section for a country with such a small military? It doesn't seem like absolute junk either rather than modernised pieces with good ammo etc.
Of course the balance is still towards towed stuff which is, as far as I know, kinda outdated and more of a single-shot weapon due to counterbattery.

>>31787485
you should hear them in action, they were as much a tool of terror as they were a weapon of war

>>31787226
Also served in the guard, in an underdeveloped, undertrained, and overweight unit.

>>31795231
I have.

>>31787814
No, I was 13B and there is almost nothing you can do with it after/during your stint in the guard. My entire life is fucked because of bad decisions like that. If you plan on staying in until retirement(let's face it, you won't) then it's pretty okay. You will however spend 1/5 to 1/3 of your next 20 years overseas if you plan on going career, good luck trying to make a family. If you want a desk job after your stint in the NG, pick an NG desk job, preferably finance, and don't reenlist.

>>31795163
because a fight in Finland would be guerilla warfare. shit tons of artillery pieces was another determining factor in them smashing the russians

>>31787823
>YEAH I ALSO LOVE "HEAT", GET AN EMMY FOR THAT

>>31787814
That depends, how sure is your desk job after school, if you're getting a legit degree, and just want something fun to do one weekend a month, I say go for it. 13B is a fun gig if you're in the right kind of unit. Do your research, find out what kind of Arty units your state has, try and find someone who isn't a recruiter to see what the unit is actually like. The Guard has some good benefits, the health insurance is cheap and really good, you might get some student loan repayment too. Be prepared to deploy though, not many happening now, but it's always a possibility, and if you stay in very long, it is a certainty.

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>>31789391

>>31798588
Nice donkey dick

Any rocket arty guys itt? When you served, how long, where were/are you stationed at.

75th FIRES brigade Fort Sill. I got fucked bros but if I could do my job I'd be happy.

>>31793389
it doesnt make me feel better. I used to be mechanized, and my old paladin was never down as much as these worthless 777a2's. ever. there's currently not a single gun across my battery that can fire. all deadlined from either brakes, failed hydraulics, or fucked DFCS.

towed is okay. 119 is an awesome little bird of a piece.

i loath and despise the m777a2 specifically. they're a delicate princess of a howitzer and i fucking hate it.

When or where was artillery, possibly just the concept, first implemented and used in warfare?

Who would you personally consider to have perfected the operation of artillery? Country or General, if you'd like.

>>31804550
>to have perfected the operation of artillery?
Alexander Suvorov

>>31800835
rockets and tube need to hurry up with that integration. i wanna learn into MLRS

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For the longest time I had no idea that the M119 was a modified version of the L118.

>>31791945
YOU LIKE TO THROW HERES AND BUNNIES?

>>31807379
Those trails look like bow-legs.

>>31791633
>>31791593
Don't freat. They're in the US too. Watched a drill instructor loss his shit during the crucible when he ran into one.

>>31798623
thanks, some women love it, some are scared of it.

>>31787374
>18 or older board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc5ez8kK4HY

1864 and war and peace are godtier series when it comes to the 19th century

>>31795121
It means more range and thats about it.

>>31795163
>Finland has thousands of artillerypices
>Sweden has a total of exacly 24 SPGs

It hurts to live here.

>>31807379
The US uses a lot of foregin/licence produced stuff infact.

>>31795163
difficult terrain with very limited infrastructure would be a slow push for potential invaders

that was one of the biggest problems for russja when they attacked the finns, the trainrails were blown up repeatedly and there were barely any roads, combine that with an insane amount of marshes and lakes in general you've got some problems ahead

>>31786578
national guard fuzes!

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>>31786566

>>31786607
Does the finnish army really think they can fire for this long without being wiped out by counter-battery from the Russians just like in Donbass?

>>31795030
itis the samething with Leopard 2 gun, where the L44 means the gun is 120mm x 44 and the L55 means the gun is 120mm x 55.

>>31807379
the US army uses an israeli heavy mortar and the Us marines use a french heavy mortar

>>31808514
How long does counter-battery take to arrive?

>>31808593
Depends on, but with good command & control and a good CB radar, within 5 - 15 minutes

>>31808599
So with things the Russians lack, there's an extra ~7 minutes left for those artillerymen to get the fuck out of dodge.

>>31795163
It's simply because the rest of Western European militaries aren't at all prepared for symmetric total war. Germany is a fucking joke, the UK plays around with power projecting and France just does what it does. Most NATO countries just rely on American superiority and focus their militaries on NATO operations in the third world.

>>31787228
>shoot a moving VBIED with a PGK fuse
Hell of a sniper shot.

>>31786566
I want to buy and learn how to use a mortar, they seem cool. Anyone know how to triangulated a firing mortars location?

Also where can I learn about general arty stuff like how to aim?

>>31808593
1 - 2 min if opponents are ready

>>31786665
Question, whats that little piece of metal off the barrel for? Looks like a mini bayonet. Something to do with securing and towing?

>>31808514
Live firing excersises just have shitloads of regulation so they arent allowed to fire as fast as they could. Getting the fuck out of the position is major part of the training

>>31786806
Radar jamming? How are nets useful btw? Does it make it harder for aircraft to spot you?

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>>31808709
>How are nets useful btw?
Camouflage, harder to see there's anything there.
Multispectral camo nets block IR, radar etc.
Makes identification a hell of a lot more difficult. Hard to see what exactly you're looking at when it's just a roundish clump.

>>31808593
Depends entirely on the enemy and their preparedness.

VII Corps in the first Gulf War were able to get their MLRS to open fire on Iraqi targets before the first splash.

>>31808709
Makes it harder to spot and even in desrt the net prevents aircraft from identifying the things under it.

Are automatic mortars a thing? I always wondered about that, if its possible and practical

>>31808881
Semi-automatic, sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXEf6PkgSgY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2B9_Vasilek

>>31790594
He's verifying that the primer was properly struck in the center. Obviously it wasn't, so he's trying to remove it to see what happened exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLTbWmr88k

>>31808691
Just no. It takes more than that just to input the cordinates and lay the gun. Even if you are prepared

>>31808881
Patria NEMOS is automatic

>>31786566
This is pretty much an arty deployment right here.

https://youtu.be/CoAT95waSoU

>>31808881
Yes. There's stuff like Dragonfire and its variant that was proposed and tested where you drop it off on a mountain or something and a FO feeds it coordinates and it fires until it's empty.

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>>31797617
I'm certain I have it, I'm already employed with the company, and they hired me on to build me up while I went to school for computers. My plan was basically to join NG for that reason, have something to do some weekends, and I'm not afraid to deploy some times. The company I'm with is pretty flexible with servicemen. I'll do my research and try to reach out to any NG's I can find. Thanks anon.
>>31795420
Thankfully, I plan on doing the job mentioned above alongside guard service, so I'm not super scared of having a fucked up career, aside from maybe some tinnitus and shitty hearing.

>>31808982
not for any modern system

>>31809356
What sort of super fast systems have you been working with? Most still uses voice radio and are requied to check the cordinates several times to make sure things dont fuck up.

The time it takes for a CB radar to calculate the position, transfer it to company/battalion/brigade command and for them to decide wether to fire or not, then to send a fire mission to the artillery will take more than 1 - 2 minutes.

>>31786566

Perfect thread for this.

Bored 35F here, coming up on the possibility of changing my PMOS. I wanna do something with Field Artillery. What 13-series MOS will help me kill things, live like an ape, and have some good stories?

And before anybody lectures me about keeping the good life, etc, I'm bored and just want to do something cool in the next war. My SGM says I could keep 35F as a secondary MOS and renew my clearance.