Black Projects speculation thread

>>31775171
Like Cabrini green?

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>>31775184

>>31775184
Like UFOs

>>31775217
They are ashy like the Greys.

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My personal favorite.

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>>31776676
Ancient aboriginal technology

>>31775171
I don't think black projects exists. Americans reveal all their projects way before they even leave the paper for propaganda purposes.

You guys ever heard of diego garcia? I went there a few times on deployment, it wasnt till i got back that i heard all the conspiracy theories about it.

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>>31776733
What they reveal isn't always real though.

>>31775184
topkek

>>31776733
No. (See: F-117, B-2, Sr-71)

How much money is allocated to black projects annually? Isn't it like 50bil?

>>31776733
>what is Skunk Works

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Was it real laser or just model, as officials claimed?

>>31779625
What is?

>>31779887
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyus_(spacecraft)
Soviet space battle laser. Launch failed and they claimed that it was a model for dynamic tests.

Was Project Aurora a real thing?

>>31776809

Or like when they announced a few stealth helicopter prototypes (most popular being the commanche) only to have it cancelled circa 2006.

Lo-and-behold, when we go to cap bin-dindu, we use the same tech

If I had to bet anything, it would be that projects are currently finished and actuve that even big wigs and top level officials thought never got started

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>>31780169

>mfw Americans secretly corrupted it's software and ignited it with energy weapons

>>31780260
>>31780260
supposedly it was the budget line item for the then classified B-2. I'm not sure I buy that story.

>>31775171
why the manned thing being piggy backed? fuck they were doing unmanned drones on the SR-71 in the 60's, not that they worked.

>>31780260
No, see:
>>31781571

But there HAVE been fast spyplanes post A-12/SR-71, they just aren't as exotic as we'd wish they were.

I'm fairly certain that the Convair Kingfish or something close to it replaced the Lockheed A-12 for the CIA in 1968 or so, and flew until the early 90s when it was replaced by something else that may or may not have been related to the YF-23.

That "something else" was then all but certainly replaced by a new fastmover starting around 2012 or so.

But none of these aircraft were anything like what the "Aurora" rumors described, and I'm convinced that the entire notion of an "Aurora" hypersonic craft was a ruse to distract the Russians and snoopers in the US from the AARS/QUARTZ program which was the de facto SR-71 (remember, she was a distinct bird from the A-12, operated by a different user and with a very different mission from the original oxcart) replacement, so that everyone would be searching for pulse-detonating hypersonic screamer when the REAL new bird was a 200'+ wide ultra low-RCS subsonic flying wing UAV with an on-station time on par with a Global Hawk.

>>31775171
As for Blackstar, that was never confirmed, but there are rumors that the early 90s saw a VERY large and VERY expensive special access project that was split between multiple major air defense contractors because of its size/scope, one of whom was Northrop, allegedly due to their expertise with lifting body designs from the 60s and 70s.

Take from that what you will.

>>31775184
kek

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>>31776733
The US has managed to pull off some James Bond villian level-shit without it being leaked while it was in development:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian


Did Have Blue or Tacit Blue get revealed before they were declassified?

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>>31779625
>>31780169
I sometimes wonder whether the failed launch was just a cover, and the genuine article was put into orbit later. Gorb was apparently worried about the project being too provocative, IMO it makes sense that he'd want to make it seem like it had been blown to smithereens while not wasting the resources spent on it.

>>31781856
>replaced by a new fastmover starting around 2012 or so.
tell me more about this

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>>31776676

whats the point of it being so fucking big?

>>31782071
id assume its like a submarine but in the air

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>>31781976
What I'm more curious about is what the US had to counter it (or what made the Russians launch it in the first place).

Remember that the Russians tended to have a fairly reactive defense strategy, and built systems to counter ours much more frequently than they tried creating new categories of weaponry.

We know they built Buran because they were afraid of military shuttle capabilities and wanted to replicate that system. My question is whether Polyus was built to replicate something that the USA already had in orbit.

I know that the Zenith Star (pic related) got as far as a mock-up, at least, so who knows how far it ACTUALLY got.

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>>31782071
I think the idea is that it allows the craft to fly at extreme altitude while conserving fuel which allows it to loiter longer.

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>>31782153
Also, fast forward to 2004-5, and THIS was seen over Dugway in Utah, fogging camera film and giving soldiers sunburns at night.

The question I have is whether the beam is going up from the ground, or coming down from the sky.

>>31782011
There are Rumors that Lockheed has built a one-off for the CIA or the NRO that combines hopped up J58's burning JP-7 with a borane additive to allow it to fly at Mach 4+ at >100k feet with a quiet-booming airframe and planform based on a very possibly XB-70-derived quiet supersonic demonstrator that Lockheed flew in the 90s and that was spotted at Groom by observers once or twice.

>>31782071
any clue what they do up there for so long with that thing?

>>31782291
Testing ion engines and other on-orbit maneuvering technologies, as well as testing technologies and materials for the NRO and bringing them back to earth for analysis.

>>31782203
The US loves testing new stuff around its own military. If something goes wrong the object is easily contained and NDAs for everyone involved with time in Leavenworth for threats.

I have some interesting stories from people in the Coast Guard for crying out loud. One guy I know had a light hovering over their ship. When they started to launch their helo it disappeared. When they got back no one was allowed to leave the ship. Some guys in black suits showed up the hour they pulled in and started interviewing everyone. Everyone was forced to sign NDAs. He really doesn't like talking about it.

>>31781976
like some space cowboys shit.

>>31782291
>>31782317
Also shooting down chink space stations

>a thread about secret squirrel shit minus the tinfoil
lawdy lawd thank you /k/
I'll just leave this here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

>>31782348
ayy lmao

>>31782348
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

Cool story bro.

>>31782348
Heard a story from an Air Guard Colonel

Squadron doing air maneuvers with some guys from other state Air Guards. Out over the Nevada Test Range. Guy blacks himself out and when he comes to is spiraling towards desert. Pilot ejects for lack of time to recover from spin. Pilot escapes and is in the parachute, Squadron calls for pickup. Pickup gets overridden by *somebody* and they get told to go home and not worry about him. Guy is missing for like three weeks, one day shows up at work. Other pilots ask him what happened, he denies anything happened at all, claims he returned safely on the mission with everyone else. Colonel says that pilot's records reflect that he returned safely, the plane was retired due to airframe stress and the guy had been at each and every shift on time over the last three weeks. Apparently he parachuted inside the Area 51 perimeter fence. Also I heard this story like four-five years after it happened, pilot was still with that squadron, still denied anything out of the ordinary happened on that training flight.

>>31782348
Read "Behold A Pale Horse" by Bill Cooper. He was doing watch on the U.S.S. Tiru submarine when he and another sailor saw a large silent craft come out of the water. They had the same situation happen to them when they got to port.

>thread about weird weapons

Fuck yeah, always wondered about the weird shit the government is cookin up.

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>>31782413
thought:

is it possible they have developed all kinds of weapons/vehicles like this (advanced technologies) in small numbers, but if there were ever a war with china or whoever that they would make them in larger numbers as a "surprise" weapon. they're probably very expensive and pointless for blowing up ragheads in the desert

>>31782153

very possible they thought the US was up to something and tried to counter because of disinfo. I know the US did that a few times which led to the F-16 or F-15.

>>31782840
The stated purpose of DARPA is the create "technological surprise", so I think what you're saying is sort of the entire point

>>31782713
I like that book.
But i cant take him seriously when he said he did a stint in the airforce before the navy, and that he saw jfk's assassination on live television, when IT WASN'T BROADCASTED LIVE

>>31782870
That was the Foxbat.

We saw it on Corona (or Kingfish) films and immediately thought that its huge wings and control surfaces were there to achieve supermaneuverability at subsonic speeds, and immediately began what would become the F-15 and F-14 to counter what we thought was the first 4th generation fighter.

Of course, it turned out that the Mig-25 was a steel and titanium porker meant to hit Mach 3 while intercepting XB-70s and Oxcarts, and was barely a 3rd generation fighter in that regard. The only reason for the huge wings was to keep the fucking thing aloft!

We found that out the hard way when that pilot defected to Japan and the folks at Area 51 finally got their hands on one.

DARPA has been fucking around with something that is basically a force field. its called steel dome or iron cloth or something like that...uses electromagnets or fields to disrupt bullets.

>>31783171
>meant to hit Mach 3
The do not exceed speed on them is mach 2.8, the mach 3.2 burns over israel basically destroyed the airframe used

>>31783171
damn i completely forgot about the defection too.

>>31783200
DARPA is up to all sorts of nefarious shit.

Just look at the HTV designs, they were the SR-72 before Lockheed ever cockteased us with that "concept", turbine-based combined cycle engines and all. Supposedly the HTV/Falcon flew around 2011, and it's technologies will be the basis of the green lady's successor.

>>31783200

Kek.

Counter it by teleportation. Drop those tanks in deep water, Or in the middle of an enemy base.

>>31782840
That's basically the entire purpose of "The Dreamland Fleet"

To prove a group of advanced technologies (whether they be loitering ultra-stealth UAV's that can penetrate peer state radar defenses, boron-burning fastmover spyplanes that could be adapted to global strike roles overnight, stealth STOL/VTOL assets for placing and recovering SEAL and CIA teams, or even Clinton-era TSTO systems that allow you to launch a Hermes-size spaceplane from anywhere with a 10,000' runway, or better yet, to launch a sub-optimal "bus" of sorts, carrying 20 or so Marines or SEALs, that will land at Space Shuttle velocities wherever you need them), and use them to "surprise" a peer state if necessary, while keeping the blueprints on the books and leaving the door open to mass production if we want to truly pound the Russians/Chinese into submission.

can't even imagine the tech these guys have now. think about how advanced the tech was in the black projects of the 60s and what theyd need to have today in order to be that level of advanced

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Black projects, you say?

Fire up Photoshop and play with this image:

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>>31783341
While keeping THIS design firmly in your mind's eye.

No need to thank me...

>>31783354
BIG HINT:

It's not the LRS-B/B-21, and neither Northrop nor Boeing built it...

>>31776809
>F-20 Tigershark
tearing up senpai

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>>31783338
the A-12 Oxcart could do Mach 3.5 with 1950s technology

>>31782593

Bullshit! Anyone in the military can pick apart this story.

>>31783360
>>31783354
>not boeing
>posts a boeing design
?

>>31783423
Mind elaborating?

>>31783423
We can, but we don't care.

>>31783360
looks like a solid triangle, weird

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>>31783341
>>31783354
>>31783360
but it's a solid triangle anon

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nigga you dont know SHIT about the projects

>>31782071
The CIA had it commissioned.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oe92UbdoIY
http://www.rense.com/general40/secret.htm

>>31783730
>us tankers just cooking random civilians with a NOD like tank mounted death beam.

I get that its agiprop, but im ok with it.

>>31776676
>the Phoenix lights

holy shit its real

>>31783784
>tfw the Phoenix were the electrogravtic generators failing and the pilots were desperately fireing up the backup turbines to keep it aloft.

>in the sky

FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK FUCK

>on the ground

*xfiles theme*

>>31783870
I saw the lights 20 years ago almost. I have chills looking at that image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spx0NthRoVc

>>31783695
>lowkey banepost
I like you

>>31783581
>underrated post

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>>31776733
You are mixing US with Russia.
Americans do have very secret projects, and they don't really care about military propaganda as much as Ruskies do.

Russia has already unveiled 200 projects or more, and did nothing in reality

>>31783256
>Just look at the HTV designs, they were the SR-72 before Lockheed ever cockteased us with that "concept"
No. Just, no.

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Really interested in this stuff, it's super comfy.

What are some black projects (or stuff like that) from any nation that I can read up on?

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>>31775184

>>31775171
Anyone know anything about SB-3 "Ghouls"?

I'm convinced it's the biggest LARP ever created, but some fucker was posting Riddler threads, and someone eventually casually cracked one. Then proceeded to start bsing about military black projects, a bomber called Spirit of Patton, and base operations. General shit like having everyone go inside to stop workers from seeing how top-secret projects take off and land.

Again I'm sure it's a load of shit, but the Riddler stuff popped up over the course of a month+

Fucking Mark.

>>31784787
i wasn't responsible for the mark guy but i did have a hand in part of a related shitpost that eventually got copied and paraded around as real

don't trust anything you see on 4chan

>>31782348
>The US loves testing new stuff around its own military.

VA giving veterans a second chance to die for their country.

>>31782071
For you.

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>>31775184

>>31784214
>PAK DA render
REEEEEEEEEEEE

That's the T-4MS - Sukhoi's contender for the Tu-160.

>>31776745
Holy shit, please tell all of them, I might get deployed there

>>31776745

>desiretoknowmoreintesifies.gif

>>31783581
gubment need mo money fo dem black programs an sheeiitt

>>31783870
>>31776676
can anyone explain to me what electrogravitic generators are? I dont doubt that something like that image has ben tested by the US but the "description" there reads like a bad fanfic.

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>>31787014
>electrogravitic generators
Theoretically, they are devices that use high-powered electrical energy to create a gravitational field surrounding/emanating from an object - Essentially creating a microcosm of gravity, which they can thus control the direction and application of force.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=electrogravity

>>31787152
>>31787014

Biggest problem is, that they're claimed to do things which known physics makes impossible for a multitude of reasons.

>>31787152

Story on that .webm?

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>>31787549
>do things which known physics makes impossible for a multitude of reasons
mfw

>Perhaps there is knowledge that exists on this planet, that has been made un-known for a reason... ;^)

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>>31787559
Dunno, some prototype

>>31787559
That's the Boeing Bird of Prey, a technology demonstrator from the 90s.

>>31787559
Boeings "bird of prey"

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>>31787604
I'm never not erect any and every time I see this video.

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>>31787592
oh boy it's the old
>you can't know for sure it won't work!
argument that mechfags always bring up

>>31787604
>that metagif

THE FUCK IS THAT?

>>31787592
>'"I Don't Understand Physics" the post

>>31787152
Except this isn't actually science and no one knows if it's even possible to artificially generate or repeal gravity by manipulating gravitons, which by the way is purely theoretical particle.

>>31787014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLXkwxhScj8&index

here, good luck understanding what the fuck hes saying

>>31783426
That picture is of a model of a Lockheed bird, and has nothing to do with Boeing whatsoever...

>>31783464
>>31783561

I'm 50% certain that the straight/curved trailing edge is an optical illusion and the planform is ACTUALLY pretty much identical to that of the Lockheed QUARTZ demonstrator.

>>31782071
It's for gobbling up secret chink satellites and bring them back home so we can look at them

>>31783695
XDDD LE KEK XDDDD 4u

>>31787592
take your meds

>>31787677
>>31787713

Thanks much.

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>>31787991
Here is the same model from the front. You can see the Boeing logo. You can also search "Boeing Next Generation Bomber" and see the same model as well as 3D renderings. Lockeed Martin did work on the project as well.

>>31783360
TR-3B.

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>>31788845
ayyyyyyy

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Its not really a black project in that it never left the drawing board, but you might get a kick out of it

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>>31789102

>>31788008
yeah i messed with the levels some more and you can make out the thin wings

>>31787604
if only we'd used those in nam

>>31787983
what is that supposed to convince me of?

>>31789467
can you post the images?

>>31775171
Farewell Dossier
>Find out the USSR needs control equipment for large hydrocarbon transport lines.
>Allow Soviet shell company to "find" a willing Canadian supplier
>Space based nuclear explosion monitors see gas field blow up.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/96unclass/farewell.htm

>>31775184
What is Cabrini green?

>>31788048
SOMEBODY GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE

>>31783279
>nothing personal kido

>>31775171
Yes, this is a based thread.

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>>31775184

>>31783338

fundin' ain't there, baby. cold war is over

it's all unmanned tech, special skins, and speed now. rest is controlled by those behind the green door.

Is the F-19 real?

>>31792034
if the holocaust can be real anything can be real in your mind anon

>>31790923
bit of a dick move, how many oil & gas workers died?

>>31792034
It turned out to be the F-117.

>>31789118

Reminds me of the hopeless diamond, named because they thought the thing wouldn't be able to fly.

Wizards.

>>31789102
>>31789112

I liked those atomic rocket concepts. Those Orion's could have been doing Mars missions by now.

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns2.php

Cool info and vids.

>>31788982

I want to believe

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LBT is probably an airplane-blimp hybrid heavy lift vehicle with global range. In order to land in locations not specifically designed for it, an aircraft with such a huge wingspan would probably have landing lights all along the leading edge.

So, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

It's pretty obvious what actually happened. An LBT suffered some malfunction and had to land urgently. The most direct route back to base would take it over Phoenix. This was deemed less risky than a longer route that could have resulted in a crash that could not be hidden. To avoid a collision with GA aircraft, the landing lights were turned on as it passed over Phoenix. A-10s were scrambled and ordered to launch flares to provide an explanation for the inevitable sightings.

>>31794576
where could something that large be hidden? and which direction was it headed?

>>31787860
Chill dude, it's just the Williams X-Jet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_X-Jet

>>31790955
It's a black project in Chicago.

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>>31787604

>>31779625
Model, but with functional orbital orientation system. The fully functional one was supposed to be second launch. Fuck the Gorbie.

>>31781976
It wasn`t a "failed" launch. Gorbie just ordered to drop the thing down, before any meaningless results were achieved. No second launch happened either.

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>>31787604
holy fuck... its real!

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>>31790859

>>31792635
No people died, only Russians

>>31789614
>convince me
this is not about you, fgt pls

>>31788008

http://notreally.info/transport/drones/sensorcraft/img//boeing_sensorcraft_1

>>31795308
>>31795489
it kind of looks like both, maybe it's just the reflection on the leading edge that gives it the sensorcraft look?

Chinese superprojects will embarrass weak USA

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>>31796277
t. Aussie

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>>31792266
kek

>>31796345
t. Military Industrial Complex

>>31787152
>do a barrel roll

>>31794576
LBT?

>>31781942
no kidding my grandfather worked on that
but no i don't have any hard evidence.