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The real battle of jadotville.

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The irish:
>Small arms.
>Handful of outdated heavy machineguns.
>Light mortars.
>Formal training.
>Prepared positions.

The Katangese gendarmerie:
>Air support.
>Heavy mortars.
>Vehicles.
>Heavy machine guns.
>Varying degree of training.
>About 30 times more men.

>Irish surrender after running out of food and ammo, with five wounded.
>Katangese lose 300 men, including at least 30 Afrikaner mercenaries.

How the fuck did the Katangese do so poorly at Jadotville when they had so many advantages? Are there similar instances of units having such massive firepower and number advantages and still getting massacred? It seems difficult to comprehend how completely the Katangese failed at Jadotville.
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>>31763303
Tactics, strategy, discipline and morale, as well as training are more important than numbers alone.
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White men in shorts vs Afriniggers
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>>31763303
>implying ooga boogas who left their spear at home for a ruski kalashnikov would be effective in combat
>implying ooga boogas can use firearms efficently
>implying frogs can lead ooga boogas even with language barriers

Op you need to understand here that native Africans are bad fighters who are influenced by drugs and money and really are cannon fodder who cant use any firearms efficiently or effectively, thank you.

>inb4 "Muh zulu"
>inb4 "Racist white male go back to /pol/"
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IIRC a decent proportion of the mercenarys didn't have any formal training. White men in shorts > black men without shorts.
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>>31763303
They were Niggers, what do you expect? Competence in war?
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>>31763323
This tbph famalam
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>>31763303
When your enemy is kind enough to stand upright while coming across an open field towards your fortified positions, and lacks effective air and artillery support (their mortars and field gun having been neutralized by effective counterbattery, according to Wikipedia, and their air support being a single small trainer jet), the factors affecting the defense are only the speed and number of approaching enemies, and the defender's ammo supply.

The locals acted like targets in a shooting gallery, and were dispatched accordingly, until the Irish just ran out of ammo.
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>>31763303
>Prepared positions.
>Formal training.

there is your answer

Charging a hard point over open ground never ends well especially if they chargees arent as well trained
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>>31763303

Niggers.

You try leading an army of untrained, literally-retarded level IQ hominids and see how many you get killed.
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>muh niggers ooga booga spearchuckers

Conveniently ignoring muh 1488 mustard race Boer mercenaries that both fought and were killed. Maybe those Rhodies weren't all that good after all...
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>>31763458

This map makes no sense. In IQ tests, a score of 100 is set as the median, with 2/3 of the population between 85 and 115. This graph in no way reflects that distribution, even if you allow for China having a 100+ value and 25% of the worlds population.
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>>31763348
Every time I see that I know some drill hat somewhere is yelling at his computer monitor.

>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING ROLLING ON THE GROUND?
>ARE YOU ON FIRE? DID YOU NEED TO STOP, DROP, AND ROLL?
>ARE YOU A LITTLE BABY ROLLING AROUND IN YOUR CRIB?
>DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A CRIB TO YOU?
>LOW CRAWL PRIAT!
>YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR ASS SHOT OF ONE DAY DOING THAT!
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>>31763499
This is 4chan, get your logic outta here!
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>>31763516
The main difference between those 2 pictures is that the top is how people lived a few hundred years ago where as the bottom is a modern day African village. Yes Varg is a faggot, but there is a clear distinction between a historically accurate Nordic recreation and some spear chuckers modern home.
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>>31763545
A few hundred years is nothing, it's practically meaningless in the timescale of human existence.
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>>31763499
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>>31763550

You do realize humanity has made fucking huge leaps in the last 200 years ?
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>>31763516
Top
>Straight saw planks
>Doors
>Iron age Era buildings

Bot
>Wattle and daub
>Today
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>>31763492
Boer =/= Rhodies
Boers refer to descendants of Dutch farmers. Rhodies were alot of things, including black.

>>31763516
>Implying that living like the Vikings a 1000 years ago wasn't the norm.
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>>31763499
It's weighted against the average IQ of whites which is set at 100. The average of each country in comparison to that baseline and scale is used to shade the map.
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>>31763567
Not humanity as a whole, certain regions and people made developments and discoveries that then radiated outwards. Like all things, it takes time to take root everywhere. Oh, and a fuckload of resources and money.
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>>31763500

>that guy at the beginning flagging his battle buddy and rolling with his gun waving all over the fucking place

I JUST GOT OUT OF OSUT AND THIS TRIGGERS ME
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>>31763595
What is it about people in the Dark Continent and the ME that makes them completely incapable of obtaining basic military skills and discipline. This isn't a /pol/ race thing. Most Americans regardless of race, religion, creed, or ethnicity can be taught the fundamentals of something like low crawling. Even the few people who managed to crawl their way out of that shithole and make it to a US Army recruiter can handle it. It's not a training thing, either. We've gone over there and attempted to train them. Theres just something about living in that part of the world that makes you incapable of finding your own ass with two hands and a map.
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>>31763585

Thank you, that explains the distribution. Putting that on the actual graphic might be nice to have.
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>>31763729
>We've gone over there and attempted to train them.
They haven't developed their own proper training system. Without that, even if they're trained by the best in the world, that training will only apply to that cohort of soldiers, and the training will be lost once they leave.

Policy and thinking from a hundred years ago still affects today's thinking in the Western world. Those countries didn't exist a hundred years ago.
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>>31763567

Do you realize that for almost 100,000 years blacks did not develop at all? They never developed the wheel or even a written language.

Any development they've seen in those last 200 years has been because of whites and even then as soon as the white leave or are massacred, they immediately revert.

They are what they are. We are not all equal and blacks are a detriment to literally every society they have infiltrated.
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>>31763729
It's their culture. Their entire history has been light infantry skirmishes. Whilst European conflicts tended to be heavy infantry battles, not small skirmishes.

http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
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>>31763792
>Do you realize that for almost 100,000 years blacks did not develop at all?
Careful buddy, you're talking about your own family too, if you go that far back.
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>>31763303
>How the fuck did the Katangese do so poorly at Jadotville when they had so many advantages?

BECAUSE THEY WANTED HOSTAGES, NOT PILES OF DEAD BODIES.
You can't pressure the UN with dead bodies? It can't be that fucking hard to understand?
They already killed the UN Secretary General, they needed leverage to secure their assets.

The local Katangese troops weren't much to write home about sure, but the european mercs employed were pretty damn good. Belgian, French, FFL, Germans, South Africans,... They all saw combat and many of the battles fought by these mercs became legendary.
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>>31763792
Same goes for Native Americans. They're just fucking retarded as a culture. No trading, written languages or wheels.
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>>31763323
Racist white male, go back to /pol/!
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>>31763813

This. There was a reason none of them were executed in prison.

Although the movie did a shit job explaining that.
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>>31763303
>Are there similar instances of units having such massive firepower and number advantages and still getting massacred?
Battle of Thermopylae
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>>31763303
>Are there similar instances of units having such massive firepower and number advantages and still getting massacred?

Every damn battle in the Korean war?
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>>31763313
Holy shit
The key to Africa is short shorts
How did we not know this all along
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>>31763303
Irish loose at the end like every time in their military history
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>>31767295
I dont know man , two wars the irish army fought in , independance , hamnered yhe british empire, civil war , hammered other potato niggers.
Also the irish make pretty good soldiers to be honest senpai, irish regiments of the british, american and french army were pretty bad ass throughout history.
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>>31767295
>like every time in their military history
Oh, so that's why they're still a part of the UK
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>>31768784
>Oh, so that's why they're still a part of the UK
You say that like part of them aren't.
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>>31763458
> Italians
> Green

Thats it race realism is a farce guys, Im With Her now
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>>31766665
Yeah, cuz Rhodesia is still a country.
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>>31766576
what movie?
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>>31763348

What's the title of the video that this comes from? I knew that Africans were generally poor soldiers, but I didn't realize it was ACTUALLY that bad.
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>>31771939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hQLrbfxeiQ

The sad thing about this video is that you can tell these guys aren't actually that stupid, they just have fuck all for training and leadership. They're trying to operate but have no idea how they're supposed to do it.
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>>31771888

Siege of Jadotville

It's actually not that great of movie despite having a pretty good event to work with
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>>31763813

Well they done goofed when they decided to shoot down the Secretary General's plane (actually happened).
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>>31763499
Except China ONLY counts Beijing and Shanghai in these IQ tests, which is why they're over inflated and should be taken with a grain of salt

I'd love to see how the US would compare if we took the suburbs of NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, etc. and then just wrote off the rest of the country
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>>31763499
IQ tests don't even measure anything substantial
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>>31763595
how are you supposed to say that?
I'm thinking
"there's *clap* nothing *clap* etc"
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