Is there any way to purchase one of these?

>>31742761
>melty melty

why would you want one

Google is your friend

>>31742801
They're aesthetic as fuck and I've wanted a G36C for as long as I've known about them.

>>31742761
No

You suck and we hate you ~ HK

>>31742801
It's only the trunnion that deforms a bit after 500 rounds, much more than any soldier will ever carry in the field, resulting in a decrease in long range accuracy.

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>>31742801
>melty melty

about time we've had a fact check

does the G36 really melt or no?

>>31742830
If you're magdumping in AZ, probably.

>>31742830
Yes certainly, after 500 rounds dumped on FA back to back
Which incidentally around the same time an AR will fail in the same circumstances, but to mention that would challenge the epic meme narrative.

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>>31742830
With the lighter barrels, the accuracy starts suffering notably after firing continuously like it was a machinegun.

this is such a retarded fucking thread.

The g36 never melted it was government bullshit.
there is nothing superior about it than say an M4 or AR15 varient or hell a fucking mini14 because you as the operator will never EVER fucking test it to its limits for it to matter.

There's several G36s in the US, go become an FFL who can legally possess one. Report altering devices are just a tax stamp away in select states.

wow shit/10 thread

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>>31742815

>>31742921
Sup HKIDF.

>>31742847
>>31742897
>>31742903
guys
i said 'fact check'

that means hand over the sources and no one gets hurt

>>31742944
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/bericht-g36-hat-auch-offiziell-grosse-schwaechen-13544955.html

>>31742825
>It's only the MOST CRITICAL PART OF A RIFLE THAT CONTROLS HEADSPACING ANS RENDERS THE WEAPON WORTHLESS PAST 50M WHEN DAMAGED

>>31742944
http://augengeradeaus.net/2015/08/g36-von-maengeln-im-gefecht-steht-nichts-in-den-akten/
No it doesn't melt

>>31742965
>implying anyone will ever put that many rounds through the rifle in a single day in the field

The issue only came to light when higher ranking officers allowed their soldiers to ditch the heavy mg3 in favor of a couple high cap. magazines and a bipod.

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>>31743015
Except it literally loses accuracy before that. It's simply shit.

After months of testing a group of experts appointed by the Ministry of Defence has the G36 assault rifle now officially certifies lack of accuracy.Both at high ambient temperatures and at a heating of the gun by duration Fires set the experts precision problems fixed. “The reason for the declining impact probability is not one of the components, such as ammunition or weapon, but the whole system,” says the report.

At the 372-page report of the Federal Court, the Ernst-Mach-Institute of the Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft, a Technical Center of the Army and the Bundeswehr Research Institute for Plant and supplies have contributed. Set in the following problems:
Heating with continuous fire:By design, the G36 will significantly hotter than fire at continuous comparison weapons. “This leads to a decrease in the hit probability when G36 occurs even at low numbers of shots with all the studied types of ammunition and -losen.”

Outside temperatures:When changing the outside temperatures hit probability Decrease “in partially significant”. The precision problems are most pronounced in the range 15 to 45 degrees Celsius.

Humidity:“The change between dry and humid environment leads the G36 to such restrictions as a change in the ambient temperature.” The problem, however, presented a significantly slower.

Sunlight:For side solar radiation forgave the weapon housing and shift on the meeting point of the rifle.

Ammunition:The accuracy differs between the munitions from, although in some cases by 35 percentage points. The precision problem admit it but even with the best cartridges.”

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>>31742761
>copying my specific brand of tacticool

wow, real life guy.

>>31743168
game? Is that the new Rainbow Six?

Check out TommyBuilt Tactical OP, the guy takes SL8 rifles and turns them into either G36 rifles or XM8 rifles

>>31743168
I really wish this mod had better reload animations and 3d scope reticles

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/bericht-g36-hat-auch-offiziell-grosse-schwaechen-13544955.html

>http://augengeradeaus.net/2015/08/g36-von-maengeln-im-gefecht-steht-nichts-in-den-akten/

I just don't know who to believe any more...

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>>31743195
Like this

>>31743193
modern firearms for fallout 4

>>31742761

no, however people have made their own by heavily modifying SL8s

>>31743193

Fallout 4/10.

>>31743195
>>31743209
holy fuuuucccckkkk

>>31742801
Go away Ursula

>>31742830
No one has been able to reproduce the results of the German testing that allegedly saw the weapon's accuracy drop due to temperature. For everyone else the weapon seems to work just fine.

>>31743015
Implying a weapon of war will never be used?
Implying using available accessories common to other rifles will never happen?
Implying even the defunded German army managed to melt them on a casual range day is acceptable?

>>31743268
>Implying a weapon of war will never be used?

>Carbines are designed to deliver hundreds of rounds of sustained fire at long distances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2E2Vw--wAM

No idea who these guys are but it doesn't seem to have any issues (at 50 yards at least)

>>31743338
Distance is irrelevant. And yes, even the m4 carbine is expected to last more than 500 rounds in a combat situation before shitting itself and becoming as accurate as Allah's will

>>31743779
>50 yards
With combat distances planned into 100-150 metres and in the Middle-East at battle distances, that's far from a valid test. Especially considering he held the gun in his arms instead of locking it into place.

Hmm let's see...
Non-German soldiers say: no problems.
Non-German testers says: no problems.
German soldiers say: no problems.
Some German testers say it has problems, some don't.

I think I know what's the matter here.

>>31744154
>It all started back in 2010, on Good Friday, following a Taliban ambush just outside German ISAF headquarters in Kunduz, northern Afghanistan. Thirty-two Bundeswehr paratroopers, cut off from the rest of their division, were plunged in a completely unexpected, nine-hour struggle of life and death.

>During the firefight, the rifles being used by the paratroopers overheated, forcing them to retreat, and on the way back to Kunduz, an armored vehicle that had been dispatched rode over a landmine. The April 2, 2010 attack cost the lives of three German soldiers, and it initiated a debate that reached its climax this Wednesday, over five years later, concerning the Heckler & Koch G36 assault rifle.

>A strictly classified series of tests conducted over the past months by three different applied science organizations, two Bundeswehr-related and one independent, was presented to von der Leyen at the end of March. The results, which were leaked to Reuters and select German media outlets, raised eyebrows well beyond the Defense Ministry.

>All it takes is two magazines (60 rounds of ammunition) to heat up the barrel to an extent that "serious accuracy degradation" occurs, the researchers found. At this point, the accuracy degradation can be as severe as 50 centimeters at a range of 200 meters, and a full 6 meters at a range of 500 meters.
http://www.dw.com/en/heckler-koch-g36-the-rifle-held-in-all-the-wrong-places/a-18402772

reminder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbTyFloelc

http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/1247466496255/m-4-firing-test.html

>>31744203
>The German regional court in Koblenz ruled in favour of Heckler & Koch (H&K) on 2 September in an action initiated by the company to challenge the assertion by the German Ministry of Defence (MoD) that the Bundeswehr's G36 assault rifle is technically deficient and in violation of procurement contracts.

>Following the court's ruling that the G36 is not deficient, the MoD is not eligible for any compensation from H&K.
http://www.janes.com/article/63421/german-court-rules-in-favour-of-heckler-koch-in-g36-case

>The Bundeswehr's G36 service rifle and its manufacturer have been cleared by three investigative reports into the subject, providing a new twist to a complex saga.

>These findings contrast with a solid year of criticism of the rifle, at the highest levels of the German defence establishment, over its accuracy when heated.

>While the first study criticises the Ministry of Defence (MoD) for responding slowly and inconsistently to reports of issues with the G36, the second clears manufacturer Heckler & Koch (HK) of wrongdoing, and the third finds no German operations were effected or soldiers wounded/killed through any shortcoming of the rifle.
http://www.janes.com/article/55456/germany-s-g36-cleared-by-trio-of-studies

>"The soldiers, who have experience in the field, laid to rest any reports qualifying the G36 as a dud weapon," read the ministry report.

>Soldiers said they had noted no problems and that use of the weapon had never led to any soldiers being put in danger.

>They praised it for being light, easy to use and not particularly susceptible to breakdown. The report noted that reliability was also seen as a particular plus-point.
http://www.news24.com/World/News/German-army-rifle-good-and-bad-20151014

Again: I think I know what's the matter here.

>>31744393

Good to know. Now I just wish they sold them state-side.

>>31744207
Doesn't really prove anything tho. Yeah the rifle works just fine after 900 rounds plus cool-off period but that was never the point of contention. The problem was the alleged terrible accuracy after long periods of sustained fire, which the gun wasn't designed for but still shouldn't occur.

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>>31742761
>buy SL8
>pretend you're pointman while you save up $4,000
>get it converted by tommybuilt who does XM8 conversions too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0enyMTjWmI

>>31742815
>this meme bullshit, AGAIN

HK was the only company that stood up for the civilian market back in the 80's and 90's and challenged the sporting clause. The reason they can't import a lot of their guns to the US is because of German weapon laws along with US import laws.

>>31744727
>Doesn't really prove anything tho.
Yeah it does. It keeps working at higher effective rpm when the M4 fails at lower effective rpm.

>but that was never the point of contention. The problem was the alleged terrible accuracy after long periods of sustained fire, which the gun wasn't designed for but still shouldn't occur.
see >>31744154
>>31744393