Duterte To United States: 'Time To Say Goodbye'

Does the Philippines WANT to be annexed by China?

>>31734024
Hillary will make him "retire", no worries.

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Literally who?

>>31734056
Being annexed by China gives investments unlike stupid American pigs. Just look at how much better Laos and Vietnam are under Chinese stewardship.

Does the Philippines hold any real importance for the US anyway?

>>31734024
we're in serious trouble. hillary is going to steal the election then get all males 18-40 killed in a two theatre nuclear ww3.

>>31734089
if you like china so much why don't you go fucking moev there you god damned commie

>>31734056
Better than being annexed by Mexic--I mean the US

The Philippines shouldn't have to live under another Spanish speaking power

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>>31734089
>Vietnam
>Under Chinese stewardship.

>>31734091
navy chiefs & cheap pussy

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>>31734072
Some flip, think he's the king flip

>>31734024
>criticized the historical alliance between the two nations, saying it did not offer much to the Philippines.

Well, he's right.

We literally owned them like slaves (including waging a full-on genocidal counter-insurgency campaign to keep them that way) and only keep them around now to make their neighbors nervous.

What exactly do the flips get out of this arrangement?

>>31734097
I'm pretty sure the last people China wants is asia's brown people moving in on an already full as fuck nation.

>>31734151
McDonald's and democracy

>>31734089

Dude, do you even talk to Vietnamese people? Do you not read history? Do you not remembet that border war they fought from 1980-90?

>>31734151
Protection?

>>31734024
So no more cheap, crudely made 1911s?

>>31734024
can someone summarize why he is suddenly so aggressive and angry at the U.S? Did we actually do anything to spark this or is he just trying to make waves or something?

>>31734097
>>31734180

I was under the impression he was being sarcastic

>>31734194
The FBI bombed a building in his city decades ago or some dumb shit

Duterte stood up to obama and obama pushed back but it looks like he got the last laugh after all. Just another foreign policy fuckup

>>31734151
Protection and sovereignty.

Kiss the madre good bye. Kiss your recognized (no, not the asinine one) EEZ good bye.

>>31734024

To make this slightly more /k/ related, does this mean I can expect Armscor ammo to dry up?

>>31734194
Duterte is basically Drumpf, completely ignorant of the world order and how things are meant to be

He is a very dangerous man, that will erode global peace

>>31734323
>Drumpf
Why are Clinton supporters so hostile towards immigrants?

>>31734194

He got elected by being an edgelord
US told him to try not to cut himself on all his edge
He then dropped his spaghetti and went running to china for guns

>>31734323
>Le DRUMPF EXCKDEE

>>31734186
protection from what? china?
yeah great job america stopping china from shitting all over the Philippines
might as well cut out the middleman and deal with china directly

Whos going to work at literally every navy base now?

>>31734337
Clinton and her supporters love immigrants though. Especially the brown ones, they're the best.

Doesn't matter if they're legal or undocumented.

>>31734357
By being backed by america they had a treaty to fall back on in case of hostilities.

So yes, by default america was protecting them.

Now, they are choosing to "deal" with china without america, which means they can kiss the effort of the last 5 years goodbye.

>>31734323
thanks for ctr

>>31734337
>>31734352
>>31734489
Get mad all you want Trumpkins, you will lose in November

DRUMPF

What are you going to do about it

>>31734381
>By being backed by america they had a treay to fall back on in case of hostilities.
By dropping relations with America and establishing better relations and cooperation with the nation America was "protecting" them from, the chances of any hostilities breaking out goes down significantly.

If something breaks out, the US isn't going to trade Seattle for Manila. Just like the Baltics, these island monkeys are just bullet shields buying time for JewSA to pile its niggers on a boat. There's no point to make a deal like that with the current shifting world order.

>>31734504

Win the election.

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>>31734515
The polls are rigged, Trump blowout am I right?

>>31734194
Hes a Contrarian Populist. If it goes agains norms, he's gonna support it. He's the neckbeard edgelord of politicians

Whatever. If the Flips are fine with it, let them change it up. They've been under us in some way for more than 100 years, if they want to try something else I don't see any reason they shouldn't.

If Hiro senpai loved us, he'd word filter drumpf into something funny or degrading.

>>31734565
The guy wants to spearhead a massive improvement and modernization of Filipino infrastructure while eradicating degenerative social behavior like narcotics use/distribution.

Nobody in their right mind would seek the input and direction of Mexico or Nigeria over China for goals like that, so why would anyone expect him to stick with the US?

Is the Philippines even significant to the US compared to other SEA countries? Military wise, isn't Thailand the go to ally in the region for the US?

>>31734602
That may be what he wants but what he has done is fucked hinself into being China's bitch as well and killing thousands of his own citizens without due process in what could be described as extrajudicial death squads.

>>31734602
>Mexico or Nigeria over China for goals like that
Yeah, those millions of dead peasants sure is desirable.

>>31734626
>fucked himself into being China's bitch
The Philippines is a vassal state. It has no power to pretend otherwise. A vassal for the US, a vassal for Spain, a vassal for Muslim Indonesia, a vassal for China. Take your pick. It's not up to you to decide who is offering the better deal.
>killing thousands of his own citizens
Who cares?
>without due process
Did Saddam Hussein get due process when he was trying to get off the petrodollar? How about Gaddafi? How about Rudolf Hess or Julius Streicher or anybody else at Nuremberg's kangaroo court? It's just some kiked-out abstraction.

>>31734626
being chinas bitch has benefits for both duerte wants that chinese infrastructure money
being americas bitch only benefits america

as for killing thousands of his own citizens he was going to do that regardless of being allies with china or america
that was what he ran on and has to deliver

america is giving him shit about extrajudicial death squads
china gives no fucks
whos a better ally?

>>31734602
>eradicating degenerative social behavior like narcotics use/distribution
Lol fuck off, being a drug addict isn't a crime. Addiction is a disease that shouod be treated like one. Do you, by any chance, believe that alcohol should be banned too?

>modernization
Lol.

>>31734512
> the chances of any hostilities breaking out goes down significantly.

Of course, intentionally loseing your sovereign economic holdings to the other party tends to not lead to them having to take it by force.

>If something breaks out, the US isn't going to trade Seattle for Manila.

That would imply china is willing to trade its entire western seaboard for manilla. They wont, so that line of thinking is on the table.

Rolling over is always an option, they choose to roll. They now (soon) suffer the consequences. No sovereignty.

>>31734024
They probably just bought him a hooker and we didn't.

>>31734757
Notice how he said degenerative, instead of illegal.

Maybe you should lay off the bong for awhile, bud.

So /k/, as China where do you go from here on the South China Sea issue? The Flip president is your friend but fishing and building outposts in their waters it might anger the general populace. On the other hand not enforcing the nine dash line on your new ally kind of invalidates the whole line. Do you just redraw it?

>>31734323
>>31734504
anti-white much?

>>31734782
>entire western seaboard

Eastern*

>>31734757
>it's a disease
Nah. Just get rid of them and the people who are selling them. Of course, if we do it your way there's not much disincentive to keep up the production and distribution -- which is what the (((US))) and its failing (((banks))) really care about. Otherwise why would they protect opium fields in Afghanistan under military guard?

Feel free to fuck off to Flipland with rifle and handle it yourself, though.

>>31734795
You ask for them to sign a mutual defense treaty with yourself, tear up the US one, then fuck them good and take what you want.

Or, just have them tear up the US one.

Either way.

>>31734795
Why would they redraw it when now they have less competition? The Filip's main backing was the USA on the South China Sea situation. The US has less of a reason to care about Vietnam or Malaysia's claim since they aren't allies. China can claim what it wants and Filips cannot do anything but accept it.

>>31734782
It's very clear when you compare Western Europe with Eastern Europe exactly what (((sovereignty))) the US delivers to its vassals.

still not weapons

>>31734849
Bluster all he wants, his country still has a mutual defense treaty with the US.

Till that goes, its all rhetoric.

>>31734860
So....you are agreeing with me then?

>>31734056
if China wanted to annex countries it would have already annexed several countries. they want a sphere of influence like in the good old days.

>>31734893
>if China wanted to annex countries it would have already annexed several countries.

Implying.

It does not want to annex country's, just take what it wants from said countrys.

>>31734888
No, I most certainly am not.

>>31734906
citation needed.

>>31734872
Treaties and alliances are only as good as the belief that they will be honored. If the Filipino president trash talks the US, brags about severing ties in favor of their pacific rival, and ignores all international condemnations in favor of being a demagogue, why would anyone believe that the US will honor this alliance. If he says one more thing like this I say that the US should begin talks to end the treaty.

>>31734927
Taking over countries by force and managing the population is expensive, much cheaper to just make them your bitch

>>31734797
It's no secret that America is anti-white, where the fuck have you been?

>>31734928
>implying the US would give up a regional ally

Not of their volition, they won't.

>>31735031
I assume they'll try to pull off another episode like Turkey and fail spectacularly. That's probably a primary catalyst for Duterte being so vocal about all of this anyway.

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>>31734515
>implying

>>31734923
So, you are saying western euro countrys are worse off than eastern euro?

>>31735101
Are you this dense? Western Europe is fucking Africa now. It's dead. It doesn't exist. That's what the US gives you.

>>31735051
I wish I had your faith in the company.

Since the Church Committee, it seems like they haven't been able to get anything done.

>>31735101
in terms of sovereignty eastern europe might be a shithole but its their shithole

>>31735117
No, it's what letting your military soften to the point of uselessness under the umbrella of U.S. military for 50 years gives you.

>>31735124
What faith? I just said they'll fail spectacularly. I'm not pro-America or any of its institutions. I'm not a fan of niggers, kikes, and ragheads.

>>31734094
>kill all males
Think about how this would affect elections. I think you may have just discovered Hillarys end goal. She's going to make sure that Democrats win every election for at least an entire generation.

>>31735157
I don't think they're competent enough to be responsible for the coup in Turkey.

You'd have some Snowden type fag walking into the New York Times office with all of the good stuff.

These days they seem to stick to drones and shit.

>>31735117
>America forced Western Europe to keep its borders open
wew

>>31735145
The US is absolutely bursting at the seams with military spending and there's no shortage of subhuman trash from every corner of the third world here, so your argument isn't really adding up.

It's most interesting that the primary path of entry is NATO member [and former vassal?] Turkey and the primary destination is the Allied-occupied and administered Germany.

>ITT: DNC operatives

>>31735117
>Western Europe is fucking Africa now.

>I believe everything I read on the internet

>>31735051
I would be very surprised if Hillary doesn't pull a Libya or something on Duterte.

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>>31735117
Fuck off American

All these "refugees" and migrants later, and Europe is still far whiter with less minorities than the US will ever be

Your brown ass doesn't know shit about Europe, or even Africa

>>31735290
Anything she tries will be a failure. They don't have a play and they know it. That's why this guy is already so close with China. I expect him to purge his military of all the drug pushing (((US))) lackeys, too.

>>31735316

And despite the US being less white, its still wealthier than Europe.

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>>31734089
>Vietnam
>Chinese stewardship

>>31735316
I'm not speaking from a point of admiration of the US or disdain for Europe. Quite the opposite. I'll assume English isn't your first language and that you have difficulty picking up on implications, so I won't pay the hostile tone any mind.

>>31735340
Well yeah

The key to modern economic sustainability is mass immigration; it keeps a steady labor force

The US is very good at mass immigration

>>31735412
This is what (((Americans))) actually believe.

>>31734194
they're still pissed off we closed subic bay naval base.

>>31735424
It's true though

The white population in the US and Europe are aging, and newer generations aren't produced enough kids

Mass immigration is needed to keep a steady labor force to supplement, and later replace, the aging working population

>>31734602
China probably has some good advice on that front, hell any East Asian country has good advice.

1) Don't be retarded
2) Don't let whittu piggu sell drugs in your country
3) Limit drug selling to Nigerian ooga boogas

Since it's the Philippines, point 1 will be hard to overcome.

>>31734341
someone has to start the slow clap

dont worry, the flips will come back begging, you watch.

>>31735461
The same labor force that is being completely eroded through automation? No. The mass immigration is ONLY for displacing and murdering the White population and to keep central (((bankers))) flush with new debt slaves. That's it.

We don't need more workers. Populations rise and fall naturally and then come back again. What's going on now is a deliberate racial attack by the nigger-jew establishment of the United States.

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>>31735461
>>31735412

lol
100% mentally enslaved, right here

>>31735128
Ahhh, i was not aware that france was less sovereign than ukraine.

>>31735468
The vast majority of drugs comes from china though.

>>31735128
How is Belarus more sovereign than Spain or Denmark?

>>31735492
There are lots of labor jobs that Americans and Europeans just don't want to work

Immigrants are needed dude

>>31735516
How is it not?

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>>31734024
Does that mean the US will work some other Asian country like Vietnam.
>tfw Vietnam becomes best new ally

>>31734906
>It does not want to annex countries, just take what it wants from said countries.
ftfy.

the apostrophe does not make things plural, it makes them possessive.

>>31735529
How is it?

>>31735536
Thanks friendly neighborhood grammer nazi. Ill make sure to forget what you told me as soon as the thread ends!

>>31735525
Absolute nonsense. Frankly, I'm glad you keep shoving them in here as fast as you can. Rip up that social fabric. Give us more fracture points. The push and pull of White resistance, White isolationism, brown anti-colonialism, and communist agitation will wreck your ponzi scheme better than anything else.

Let's hope you put the cherry on top of this sundae and send your spicniggers off to the Siberian meatgrinder.

>>31735525

>socialist welfare system makes it more profitable to not work at all, then to work a low paying job
>instead of fixing that issue, you bus in hoard of immigrants to do the jobs, and can't collect wellfare
>but their kids will certainly be able to, so every generation will require an entirely new generation of immigrants ON TOP OF the ones already here

Yeah, nice one.
Central planning big government at its finest.

>>31735546
Who tells Belarus what to do? Who tells Belarus how many refugees they need to accept? Who tells Belarus what % of GDP needs to go to some overarching military alliance? Who tells Belarus which nations its borders must be 100% open to?

>>31735570
Make threats all you want, but if any of that stuff was going to happen, it would've happened by now

We live in a first-world society; no one is going to upend all that over what you say

>>31735596
That's just how it works

Damn, American diplomatic status getting BTFO.
Who would have guessed that trying to spread a Neo-Con agenda everywhere would have some bad response?

>>31735561
just trying to help you look like less of a dullard

>>31735600
Russia, Belarus, Belarus, Belarus

>Denmark/Spain
US, Denmark/Spain, Denmark/Spain, Denmark/Spain

huh

>>31735621
>We live in a first-world society
No, we do not. Japan is a first world society. South Korea is a first world society. The West? Not anymore and it hasn't been for a long time now.
>if any of that stuff was going to happen, it would've happened by now
You're already seeing it happen. This total failure again and again of US foreign policy is caused by an inability to generate internal consensus. The population can't be rallied for war. Presidential candidates openly pushing for good relations with Russia, while another candidate holds them up as a mortal geopolitical rival. The Pentagon going behind the White House's back to relay actionable intelligence on Salafist targets in Syria. The constant stream of leaks [yeah, leaks not hacks] of the inner workings of the highest channels of government. It's all right in front of your face.

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>>31734757
A disease that needs to be removed from society.

>>31734260
A fuck up for Duterte.

>>31735630
Thanks again, turbo autisimo.

>>31735677
>one presidential term dictates my long term view of america

Lel

>>31735638
Well, people ignored the france/ukraine comparison, mostly because it completely destorys your anti west point.

>>31735677
>The West is not a first world society
Wrong

And yes, US politics are heavily polarized, but that has nothing to do with ethnic/racial demographics

It just means the US has difficulty agreeing on anything

>>31735783
Are you quoting the right guy?

>>31735771
The genie isn't going back in the bottle. That's the point. Different parts of the country have wildly different views on what the country should be doing that are never going to line up. It's over.

You're going to see Duterte's pop up in country after country after country. Once the US is cleansed from Syria and their pipeline fails, that will be that.

>>31735820
And if that does not happen?

>>31735820
Ahh, so you admit your points are based upon pure conjecture.

>>31735795
It has everything to do with ethnic/racial demographics. That is why the US cannot agree on anything -- White America is largely sick and tired of the mud empire and nation building. Spicniggers are looking for a free ride and some polyester multicam to keep gobbling up the rest of the world's resources for their jewish bosses while the rest of the world is reevaluating that deal on their end.

You've got wildly diverging views of the country's future direction from inside coinciding with a sharp decline in America's geopolitical relevance to the rest of the world.

>>31735827
It already HAS happened. That's the point.

>>31735701
It is a disease that spontaneously regenerates itself every generation. It cannot be removed simply by killing the afflicted. If it is possible to eliminate that disease, then a different strategy is required.

>>31735862
Durtes have not popped up in other countrys.

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>>31734504
>What are you going to do about it

Let freedom ring.

thanks obama.

>>31735880
Who gets to decide what freedom rings??

>>31735846
/pol/ pls


>>31735820
So you're willing to tel the nation fall instead of trying to make it work? Man what a coward you are.

>>31734602
The War on Drugs was a missive failure for the USA, it's faired no better in any other nation who have tried prohibition on any other substance.

>>31735876
But the US has lost in Syria, the Turkish military is being purged of anyone suspected of US sympathies, the Egyptian military led a counter-coup against the US-backed Salafists there, and Duterte is pushing their asses right out of the South China Sea.

So they're done in the Middle East. They're done in the Pacific. All that's left for them to do is hysterically threaten Russia with nuclear war.

>>31735908
>So you're willing to tel the nation fall instead of trying to make it work?


Hes not american, just a poor deluded soul who thinks his country is a better option.

>>31735908
>trying to make it work?
I never signed up to be New Nigeria. Your jewish ideals of what the country ought to be don't line up with mine.

>>31735918
Good, Pax Americana needs to end

I'm sick of Brazil 2.0 telling everyone what to do

>>31735922
I absolutely AM an American.

>>31735931
The US was founded on the idea that anyone can be an American

If you want to blame someone, blame your own country's laws and ideas

>>31735922
I've been on /pol/ long enough to know that a lot of these types of posters ARE deluded Americans and Western Yuros.

>>31735949
>The US was founded on the idea that anyone can be an American
No, it was not.
>to ourselves and our posterity

>>31735918
>But the US has lost in Syria

Syria is destoryed as a country, so its hard to say they "lost". In fact, they managed to get 3 anti us factions to fight amongst themselves. Thats a win no matter how you slice it.

>turkey

Still firmly in nato.

>Egyptian military led a counter-coup against the US-backed Salafists there

Then became pro us, us backed themself.

>durte

Cant use him as evidence for more like him.

Try harder.

>>31735955
White people are pretty annoying

It's a good thing they're becoming a minority themselves

>>31735931
So leave then? Go somewhere else and whine about your life, we don't that tone here. We need real men capable of putting in work for this country.

Also, I'm not Jewish (but i do have bigger than average nose).

What are your ideals then? Greentext them.

>>31735965
>That's a win no matter how you slice it.
The only goal was the pipeline. That's it. Without that, it's an unconditional defeat.
>Still firmly in nato
But restarting talks for a Russian pipeline. Interesting.

Tick tock.

>>31735947
So why stay american?

>>31735947
The fuck you are.

>>31735977
>(((We))) need real men capable of putting in work for this (((country))).

>>31735977
>We need real men capable of putting in work for this country.

Yeah, you're not getting that from millennials

As already said, we need immigrants because people in the US don't want to do the hard work

>>31735957
With the implication that anybody can become an American....that's point numero uno for the selling point of this country. It's why people from all backrounds call themselves Americans and call this country home.

Your ideas cause divisiveness that always lead to major wars or huge societal problems. Fuck off.

>>31735985
>The only goal was the pipeline.

According to russo centric conspiracy theorys.

>again, muh pipelines

To which america loses nothing, and russian cant sustain itself or its economy on one pipeline, which kinda kills the russo centric conspiracy theorys

>>31735997
Is it surprising to you to find out not everyone unconditionally accepts your niggerized bolshevik agenda as mana from heaven?

>>31734602
>enact plan to kill drug dealers via summary execution
>if anyone complains, just label them a drug dealer and kill them
>also, your hired goons surely will not abuse their power for personal gain
This is why it's bad.

>>31736033
No, he stateing that due to you completely giving up, your simply not american now.

Nobody is keeping you here. Russia seems to be more your style.

>>31736024
My ideas aren't the cause of it at all. Your militant devotion to multiculturalism is the cause. This is how every single empire in history dissolves, but you always think you're going to be the one that's different.

Enjoy the ride down. It's going to suck.

>>31736047
If I spoke the language, I would probably go. I'd go back to Europe, but the old country is (((NATO))), too, so it'd just be more of the same.

>>31736035
Label the goons as drug dealers and hire some other goons.

>>31736054
>enjoy the ride down, its going to suck.

For me? Historically, no it wont. Right now we are in the prime peak, just past peak or empires. Its gravy for the next 100 years or so.

>>31735998
Yeah, go to the fields and work in Eastern Oregon, we're always looking for people here. Stop complaining when it's almost assured that if I gave you a job working the fields you'd have a hissy bitch fit. And if you don't like that, go out and vote, become a politican and enact change. And don't give me an BS about the system being rigged, if you choose to do nothing you are nothing.

>>31736023
Well, i can assure you it's not, food production is still high, as is energy independence and the military is still effective. Don't just mouth off some "everybody who isn't my generation is shit" talking point.

>>31736073
You cant learn?

>>31736081
>we are in the prime peak
LOL. Okay.

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>>31735596
>Jew-led,multinational corporations and legislation favoring supply-side economics make low-paying jobs less profitable than welfare.
FTFY. Its funny how youre concerned with the death of white America, yet your adversion to social spending is exactly what kind of economic ideology the globalist kikes live off of.

>>31736100
Russian? I've never attempted it.

>>31736101
Uhhh, historically yes, yes we are.

Our rise started in the 40s. 150 years is the average power peak for empires.

>>31736119
Figures you would be defeatist about everything in your life.

Wallow away then...absolutely worthless.

>>31736054
Def not a fan of multiculturalism, (my family is from Yugoslavia) but don't you want to live some place where people can work toward a common goal while being Americans without killing each other for small minuscule reasons? I'm not saying we need to enact EU style laws or any of that BS or restrict the 2nd Amendment (fuck that).

You're the kind of person who had your dad do all the work, you didn't do shit and now you blame it on everyone else.

>>31734194
Obama was a nick digger to him and tried to tell him how to be an enormous faggot, so Duerte is telling him to go back to the ladies room.

>>31736136
Enjoy the meat grinder, Pedro.

>>31736089
Most farm and field laborers are illegal immigrants, this is a fact

Americans don't want to work those kind of jobs for the wages and work that they entail

That's not a bad thing; using cheap labor from Mexico and Latin America allows the produce market to remain productive, while saving costs on labor

>>31736148
>says the worthless defeatist

You are not white, most likely some self hateing mulatto mutt.

I would tell you to kill yourself, but you would probably quit halfway though with that too.

>>31736136
I hate people like this, complain about life being to hard because they're lazy as shit
>It's the jews. Yeah that's it, i'll let this country down because the system is obviously rotten and not because I'm just a shitty terrible person.

I swear man

>>31736140
>You're the kind of person who had your dad do all the work, you didn't do shit and now you blame it on everyone else.
What the fuck are you babbling about? Don't project your issues onto other people. Not liking niggers or jew wars is a perfectly logical conclusion to reach. That puts one at odds with America as currently constructed since that's what our society revolves around.

>>31736163
>for the wages and work that they entail
> for the wages

>>31736176
They are the downfall of civilizations to be quite honest.

Too fucking lazy to fix anything and too stupid to do so anyways.

Just worthless husks. Ill take a hard working nigger (all 3 of them) or a fucking hooked kike over a worthless, human husk like himself.

I mad.

Just want to briefly interrupt the shitflinging here to remind every American here to vote Hillary in November.

It's extremely important that Trump loses. Not only will he destroy our foreign policy, but domestic policy will be disastrous for anyone not white.

>>31736180
Fuck off. At least a nigger accomplishes killing other niggers, you are just a worthless quitter.

>>31736215
>Wah, wah, wah
>You won't unconditionally support my zionist empire.
>You're a quitter!
I got mine. Isn't that what America is all about, nigger lover?

>>31736175
This, fucking poltards are nothing more than pathetic manchildren who blame their incompetance on others while doing nothing to better themselves.

>>31734151
About 200 million burgers or so.
http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/139/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Philippines

>>31736239
>I got mine. Isn't that what America is all about, nigger lover?

And yet, you blame the kikes and the spooks. Unbelievable.

In the end, you are a quitter. Due to your worthless shit, you are not unconditionally supporting it, you are supporting it by default.

>>31734118
This. They are mostly irrelevant except for sex tourism. Its a hot humid jungle country, mediocre beaches, everyone poor as fuck driving those little moped things around, etc. no real reason for civilians to go there really

>>31736054
>Enjoy the ride down. It's going to suck
When the Pax Americana finally collapses America is going to weather the coming storm a lot better than other countries. I'd be willing to bet the ones you likely think of as uncucked will collapse into failed states faster.

>>31736245
It's a white people thing. They truly are a cancer on society.

>>31736180
I'd take black people and Latinos over any white person.

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>>31734024

Sounds like its time to curbstomp a few moros.

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>>31736350
And yet you niggerspics don't ever stay in your own countries where there aren't any White people, do you?

>>31736396
We know. That's why the country is going to fail. It's intractable.

As a Filipino-American, I don't know the right words to describe it.

All I know is that my family members (who are legal gun owners in Philippines) are probably gonna lose their rights if this guy continues to be puppet to the China.

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Some brown guy is mad at America?
What hath God wrought?!

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>>31736350

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>>31734024

>during a visit to China

So he's allying himself with the country that's laying claim to the entire South China Sea and building artificial islands off his shoreline?

Dude is a real rocket scientist.

>>31736429
The track record of small client states of big ruthless totalitarian ones is not good. I could givva fuck less about Obama or basing rights. I am, however, sincerely concerned for your mother country.

>>31736412
Their countries have problems.

I get that some countries want to take in these poor people and help them out; but it's unsustainable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

For every million poor people you help, millions more are born into poverty. The only solution is to fix these countries.

>>31736450
The track record of the Philippines under US hegemony is what led to Duterte getting elected in the first place. Are you this detached from reality?

>>31735846
Then explain the infinite times and ways that people of the same ethnic/racial demographics have disagreed since before recorded history.

Because that stands as a very solid monument to how you're wrong.

>>31736463
>Their countries have problems.
Yes, they do have problems. The primary one being the people who inhabit them.

>>31736472
>hegemony
That's called projecting, chinkfag.

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>>31734024
The colonies seem to be getting awfully rowdy.

Buy your cheap flip guns now. It will be less than a year before they stop exporting.

>>31734089
>vietnam

>under chinese stewardship

top kek

>>31736490
Right, but it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. It's a culture thing in those countries.

>>31736535
Yeah, it's culture. The transition from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe was a cultural failing. If we could just get them to really take in the ideas of Adam Smith, I bet we'd see a real turnaround.

>>31734089
And just look at North Korea, they hate America and are heavily nationalist and so that obviously makes them based, right?

>>31736450
All I know is from my Facebook feed is that everyone is concerned or outraged that he gets away with so much shit and anyone who calls him out gets someone else's jimmies rustled.

He's like Hillary (gets away with too much shit)

>>31736054
>This is how every single empire in history dissolves

>The Mongol Empire - broken apart via Paritable Inheritance
>Charlemagne's Empire - Same; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partible_inheritance
>Rome of course - weakened by civil wars and crazy emperors, split in half, eventually conquered by barbarians
>Persian Empire - Conquered by Alexander
>Ancient Egypt - died of old age
>half a dozen versions of China - civil war or outside invasion
>Spanish Empire - btfo by Brits, and rebels
>British Empire - WW1 and WW2
>American Empire - Possibly Donald Trump...
Are you noticing a trend that distinctly proves you wrong?

>>31734024
I thought this was /k/ not /pol/

>>31736627
>American Empire - Possibly Donald Trump...

Not happening. Trump can't win, fuck off.

>>31736627
Don't bother with these people, they boil everything down to retardedly simplistic ethnic determinism. He'll probably tell you Rome fell due to immigrants while ignoring or outright being ignorant about the complex economic and political factors behind it.

>>31734024
Are we supposed to give a shit about them? They're pretty worthless and I don't particularly care for flips anyway.

>>31734797

It's the current year. Witch hunting whites is the progressive thing to do.

>>31734757
>Lol fuck off, being a drug addict isn't a crime. Addiction is a disease that shouod be treated like one. Do you, by any chance, believe that alcohol should be banned too?
>t. Papist
This sort of Catholic degeneracy is why every year more white people die from drunk driving than some nigger with a gun.

>>31736664
Trump will win. Rasmussen poll puts him 11 points ahead. 50k polled 40%gop 40%dem 20%ind
NBC faked a poll to put hillary 11 points ahead polling only 500 people and only 20% GOP 70% dem 10% ind
last 10 Trump rallies had more then 25k in attendance at each one
last 10 hillary rallies had 3k in attendance... combined

>>31736987
Oh go back to shoving beads up your cousin's ass while defenestrating lies you snapback wearing bumper sticker having jackanape

>>31737079
>Rasumessen

Right-wing poll, disregarded

Also an outlier, every other poll shows Hillary with a sizeable lead

>>31737084
How about you go back to your shitty grey skyed rat nest? You useless Patty.
NINA 2016!

>>31737147
no one in history has ever called Rasmussen "Right Wing" until they didn't agree with the "left wing" agenda

Flipfag here, at least you still got Japan and South Korea. They have better airbases anyway.

I don't even know how this country would be even fixed without nuking it all and starting over again.

Isn't it likely that Duterte is just hedging his bets? He's making a name for himself and making friends for the Philippines whilst the USA has to sit in the midst of an embarrassing election cycle and essentially do nothing. But when you see Chinese economic vampirism and realise that the American style is no different except for McDonald's, then it kind of makes sense to make friends with your neighbours, because the USA doesn't care about the Philippines whilst China cares about the South China Sea and the Nine Dash Line.

>>31734056
He does. But not a majority of us, that's for sure.

>>31736443
He has done the math, the world is getting tired of failed and struggling nations. The reality, the history, and the fucking facts supporting it is this: some people are not ready to govern themselves and are only a 2-4 generations removed from a tribal mindset.

If you are going to have to pick a side, pick the one that benefits you most.

A lot of young Phillipinos lean westward, and a lot of older ones recall their grandparents bitter hate of the US based on their own parents, etc.

The Obama administration did not support the nation well, and does not like the new president. He did the logical thing that best suited HIM.

In the short term he is trading the shitty fishing industry of the Philippines to the more efficient industry of china for cash. In the long term, well, there are going to be more brown skinned Chinese people.

Balls rolling now man. too late to stop it. The US Learned its lesson with that little island several times over. "Fuck you we take care of ourselves. No fuck you help us. Fuck you go away. No fuck you help, china is fucking us! No fuck you" The people are cool. Their leadership is shit.

>>31734504
>what are you going to do about it
Call you a faggot obviously, faggot

>>31736443
He can see the US is going to shit.

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>>31735872
All you have to do is keep purging, to reduce their numbers.

I never understood the point of being so close militarily with the Philippines anyway. Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan and South Korea are all much better choices for allies in Asia. Philippines rather has nothing to offer at all, other than filling body bags what use would they really be in a conflict with China? All those other nations are closer and much more well off in virtually every way.

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>>31737968
dude is literally trying to pull a meme from 2008. fuck. shits probably half as old as he is. Sleep my noble warrior, I understand your pain. We've all lost someone we loved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zxGZYqmo4M

>>31734122
Is that a fucking tactical lever action? Who would do this?

>>31735332
Why do you keep doing (((this)))? I mean I get it, emphasis, but you could be less obnoxious about it

>>31738246
It's a /pol/ thing. It didn't originate with them ofc but they do it to signify Jews.

>>31737223
He's right though (showing Hillary as the leader).

>>31735872
Spontaneously?

Addicts don't "catch" an addiction. It's not the fucking chicken pox.

>>31734024
Guy is going full North Korean and wants to as much as a troll as possible to get media attention...sucks, I have family back there, but honestly besides that, That shitty chain of miserable islands can go fuck itself.

>>31734089
Vietnam dosen't care for chinks, the last war tgey fought was against them.

>>31734192
Meh, CZ 97B with slim grips are a beyter option. A 600 dollar ten shot .45 pistol that's easier to field strip...what's not to love?

>>31734626
Actually, being our bitch works great. You get money, guns and we come to protect you when you're threatened and don't try to control your politics as long as they don't fuck with us.

>>31738385
>You get money, guns
China has no shortage of that.
>we come to protect you when you're threatened
But if they stop being your wedge against China, there's really no threat anymore.
>don't try to control your politics as long as they don't fuck with us.
I take it eradicating drug pushers fucks with the US? Pretty damning.

Didn't the Philippines just get wiped off the face of the earth by a gigatyphoon? So sad...

>>31734688
The second one mentions the petrodollar, the second they lose all credibility.

>>31738732
Nope, we're still here.

>>31738821
What makes the petrodollar so incredible?

>>31734927

You mean besides China telling most countries in the south China sea that their EEZ is actually China's, and building militarised bases there.

>>31739218
It's just another boogeyman that's been disproved over and over.

>>31739279
It's not really a boogeyman though if you consider it being just a phrase to link oil and the US dollars needed to buy it.

>>31734180
Viet here. You could call it a Border war that has been fought from 800-1990 with a few ceasefires desu

>>31734024
Regime change imminent

>>31734173
You said democracy twice

Does anyone care?

Other than Subic bay and the red light district of Manila is flip land worth anything to anyone?

Literally spic/chink/kebabs with no oil. Nope!

>>31740262
Subic Bay has been closed for over 20 years.

>>31738117
Australians.

>>31740289
>Missing the joke. the post.

Anyone who lives in the Philippines - what's the general talk around the Duarte rule? Whats his core base and who would you equalize him with?

I've always seen pinyo(a)s as very close to America if not the whole west, will these bands be cutoff in favor for a more Asian centralized zone.

>>31740477
There would have to be a joke in there to miss.

>>31740481
>I've always seen pinyo(a)s as very close to America if not the whole west
Why? They aren't White.

>>31734180
>Do you not remembet that border war they fought from 1980-90?
I'm sure it wasn't half as bad as the fuckup that was Vietnam, right after you guys went over there and fucked up a completely legal and democratic election

Eat shit and die, americuck

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>>31734024
Bye mother fucker bye bye

>>31734024
Looks like China is getting the sea, and all its fishing and mineral rights, and the Philippines gets scraps from China.

>>31734024

America can't lose the pacific while Australia exists.

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>>31740481
Duterte is a communist/socialist

He got his ego bruised by Obama and is now exacting revenge for his personal gain

Pinoys don't trust China in the slightest, ignore the wumaos and Duterte shills claiming otherwise

It's the classic case where leader wants to do X but people want Z

>>31740527
>Eat shit
Your frying oil already is, though.

ITT Salty Americans

>>31735515
Duterte, like any pinoy in power, isn't " eradicating" drugs, he's just changing who benefits from it. If everyone here looks at Philippines politics as anything other than banana republic shit, they are wasting their time.

>>31734024
>losing the pacific

Not that the pacific was any better under the Japanese Empire anyway.

>>31734024
>America's status: C*cked

That is only if he does not botch his preceded war on terror.

>>31740837
>everything I don't like is communist/socialist!
Pretty sure I've been accused of being a commie for saying he needs to go, around here.

>>31734024
If he wants to sell his entire country to the Chinese, let him. We have no need for allies anymore. Independence!

Damn my nigga savage

>>31734603
Philippines was the U.S. Medivac during Vietnam war and Korean war. What they have are food, medical supply, and health/intelligence service.

>>31737079
>Trump WILL WIN!!!
Never underestimate sturgeons law when it comes to peoples preference for people.

>>31737653
If dissect Duterte, he is actually a pacifist. Which is reason why he want to get rid of Philippines wartime style military but instead shift to anti-terrorist equipment and training. He also stated that the gear that we are buying from Russia are the ones that are focused on stealth and detection; stuff that can be used on rescue operation and innovate the 911; not heavy stuff like missiles and warheads.

>>31734024
There is is good and bad in all things, they all vary in proportion. I hope he has fun doing what he wants to do.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/585816/news/nation/after-split-with-us-duterte-wants-deal-with-putin-too
Is this the new world axis ?

>>31734341
kek

>>31740481
The majority of people don't trust China. If you go to military centric Normiebook pages, they are all Anti-Duterte to an extent, mainly due to his affiliation with filthy gommies.

>>31734091
Strategic invasion point for southern Pacific, also natural resources.

Japs took it in the 30s for these reasons

>>31741583
lol no. The Philippines is incredibly weak economically and militarily.

It has the power of a client state, yet it wants to forgo a ally which treats it as a partner in favor of those who would not.

>>31741774
It trades more with China than the USA. China and the USA are both retards for creating pointless issues with the Flips.
>muh human rights, don't hurt the druggies
>muh Chinese fisherman discovered your reefs in 1312

>>31741801
It imports more Chinese goods than American, but it exports more to America than China. China is claiming Filipino territory as its own.

And If you can't understand why a judicial system is important than I'm sure you wouldn't mind the ATF visiting you to remove your dog and other items.

>>31742061
It is a maritime dispute, not a territorial one. Unless you are a mermaid.

>>31734323

Kill yourself.

Why do flips always smell like mildew? Seriously I've never met one that doesn't stink.

>>31740945
That was banter, this guys just going to make his people's lives worse. If he thinks the US didn't care about Filipinos, he's in for a whole new level of fuck the Chinese will give them.

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>>31734024
What's his name again?

>>31740945
Duterte is actually a member of his local socialist party. He loves gay rights, taxing the rich,etc. However, Duterte is also an alpha strong man. Funny combination

>>31734757
>Addiction is a disease

It's a choice. A choice that weaklings make.

>>31743144
He could be part of the Italian mob for all I care, he's doing something right and that's making the war on drugs an actual war, and that's the first step for the Phillipines to get back on its feet.

>>31743130
Rodrigo Duterte. It's in the filename of the picture you posted.

>>31743130
Rodrigo "El Muerte" Duterte
Rodrigo "Sell weed, you'll bleed" Duterte
Roddrigo "Shoot up with Ned, I'll fill you with lead" Duterte

Funny i thought i was on /k/

Just like Russia.

Hillary winning means that China gonna shit their pants and now the worthless philippines is just ensuring they stay 4th world forever.

Blame the US, Hillary all they want. The US isn't weak and we don't support the weak. Let them run to China there's nothing changing for that shithole the US wasted efforts with.

No Puppet Donald Trump to surrender the US to Russia and China. Boohoo Duterte, guess you just have to cry foul and make empty threats like all the Donald Trump dick sucker slaves.

>>31743399
>The US isn't weak

Says the nation that completely failed with Syria.

You invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and helped bring Libya to heel. Yet you can't do a thing about Syria.

>>31743399
At least their War on Drugs is actually successful.

>>31734091

Not since the Navy moved away from coal fired boilers to propel ships.

>>31743471
Define succesful.
If by that you mean, killing anyone who touches, has touched or is suspected of touching drugs?

It sees about the same success as the salem witch trails. Oddly enough it seems to have the same MO and motive.

>>31743505
Yeah, sounds like it's been successful to me.

Or we could be like the US, lock up a few low-level drug dealers, give 5-10, release back on the streets where they start dealing drugs again.

>>31743530
So, rounding up and killing those 'suspected' of drug ties is successful. Got it.

Does it even matter to you that more users are killed than sellers?
What about the fact that vigilante bands kill with almost impunity?
Or maybe that it's a thinly veiled excuse to kill dissenters of foreign policy?
Does due process mean nothing to you?

>>31743407

>Says the nation that completely failed with Syria.
Did a better job with handful of drones than all the carpetbombing of aleppo by russians

>>31734024
whos this dirty beaner asian looking mother fucker and why should his greasy opinion matter?

>>31734091

Go look at a map. It is straight up one of the largest strategic physical barriers used to contain China. Losing the Flips is a serious blow to US positioning in the Pacific. It's not panic worthy, because US still retains some amount of influence in the Philippines, but make no mistake that the State Department is going to counter this the best they can. Look for more concentration of strengthening ties in SEA countries.

Duterte seems pretty dead set on this for political reasons. That doesn't meant it can't change. I don't think it influenced his decision, because Duterte has openly stated he personally doesn't like the US, but the US has kinda dicked over the Flips in terms of military procurement and aid.

The US has repeatedly blocked the Flips from procuring air craft. In the 90's they prevented them from buying planes from Israel. In the early 2000's the US let another deal for Pakistani F-16's fall through leaving them with their pants down for over a decade in terms of aircraft capability.

The US has long taken the Philippines for granted. No sweet, free F-16 deals like other allies get for free. Now, like I said, I don't think this particularly influenced Duterte because he's just pushing the cliche strongman get-off-my-lawn policy. The attitude of these policies may have helped lead to the Philippines ability to unilaterally re-align.

This just all happened so fast it makes no sense. It's definitely bad for the US. Hopefully the dude gets shot in the head by a crack head.