How impressive is this, really?

hovering helicopters is a pain in the ass I've heard
probably harder in a chinook since it's got 2 rotors

Not really impressed. China has men that can do that easily.

>>31719933
i could do it

>>31719933
well it's a normal part of the job but to be fair it's a very difficult and impressive job.

Landing on a landing pad technically isn't all that different.

It's staggeringly impressive. I did a small amount of rotary wing training in the air force and clocked about 18 real world flight hours. Helicopters are a hitch and a half to fly, especially in mountainous terrain, especially at extremely low altitude, especially when trying to hover, and especially in a dual main prop helicopter like the CH47.

>>31719975
>China has men
That's all China has.

>>31719933
it's impressive, but only because flying helicopters in the first place isn't easy. before a chopper departs they hover in place for about 10 min doing final checks, literally no different then what's going on in that picture, except for what's underneath it

tl;dr yes it's impressive, but not any more so than any other hovering

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>>31719933
nice. i thought it was going to be that story of the Vietnamese guy who rescued his family and village and hovered his chinook over the US ship at sea while they offloaded. his ditch maneuver was 10/10 too.

What's more difficult, this or landing a helicopter on a moving ship in rough seas?

>>31720089
>but not any moreso than any other hovering

I guess thats kinda what i was getting at. Obviously flying a military heli isnt easy, but if youre already capable of doing that then how much of a stretch would it be do to pic related

>>31719975
>not so implessive, firthy round-eye. Me rand herricopter birrions of times in grorious Chinese miritary

>do not ask for source firthy gweilo, is simpry true

>>31720137
kek

Pshhhh I do that kind of shit all the time in battlefield 4

>>31719933
these old boy are good, damn good.
thank you for job well done.

>>31720089
>yes it's impressive, but not any more so than any other hovering

Are you retarded? It's way harder. He's not putting the full weight of the Chinook on the building because it's made of mud and sticks.
Keeping the ramp low enough to load the troopers would be insanely difficult in these circumstances.

>>31719975
Right Tchang.

How many dual rotor choppers does China has again ?

OH SNAP THAT'S RIGHT : NONE.

Get the fuck out of here and call back when your country will be able to do something else than copying french designs from the 70's for their choppers.

>>31719933

The fact that helicopters don't just fall out of the sky is already pretty impressive.

>>31720137

>gweilo

Now I'm confused as I thought Cantonese had an "L" sound but not an "R" sound

>>31721898
there is no distinction between the two in Eastern languages
whether it's an R or L sound is contextual, but speakers are not necessarily aware of the distinction

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>>31720064
Under rated post

>>31720656
This.

Helicopters were designed to kill the people that pilot them.

>>31719975
Fucking Chinaposters

>>31719933
Not that impressive. I went heliboarding in alaska and the pilots there could hover with their rotors 6 inches away from cliff faces

>>31722030
I'd prefer a single engine help to a single engine plane over mountainous terrain, given it was just, say, a scenic flight. If I lose the engine in that plane I am pretty much SOL. Helo, I might be able to land, but the plane cant land anywhere without at least a 650x25ft clear, flat area.

>>31720137
Shut up mason

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Maybe. But this also looks impressive as fuck
https://youtu.be/zyufmT13wHg
https://youtu.be/7po3JlgWhvQ

>>31719933
I bet he was a Kiowa pilot

>>31720089
>before a chopper departs they hover in place for about 10 min doing final checks,

No, they dont.

>>31723143
Nah, I'd bet he piloted Chinooks.

>>31719975
>China official sees picture
>China do this!, he thinks
>Internet steal plans for Chinook
>Workers build copy in between lacing Nike shoes
>We put slav engines in it!
>Go on rescue photo op
>Engine smoke too much
>Rotor strike fake wounded soldiers
>Both rotor fly off
>Big fire
>Many deaths
>Houses burn down
>3 gorges breached
>Famine
>China paper shoop slant eyes on OP photo all cheer China stronk

>>31721965

My understanding was that this was true for some languages like Japanese, but Cantonese just didn't use the r sound

>>31719933
>pilot with proper training knows how to hold throttle and stick still for 30 seconds

>>31723412
I meant before he piloted Chinooks m8

http://www.strawpoll.me/11458141

so which is it?

>>31719933
It's impressive, because he's hovering with his helicopter at an angle, and they are 14,000 feet up a mountainside.

Most helicopters can barely stay in the air at that altitude.

>>31719933

Very impressive. It's not super rare, both the US and RAF have been seen to do it quite a lot, but that doesn't detract from how fucking outrageously skilled a pilot has to be to pull that shit off.

Especially in those sorts of geographic conditions.

THIS IS WHY THE UNITED STATES ARMY IS THE BEST ALL OTHER BRANCHES SUCK...!!! GO ARMY!!

>>31720338
do you not know that all helicopters in existence are dual rotor helicopters?

>>31724674
but the pilot was a nasty girl you dipshit.

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>>31719933
I think flying off a sinking boat after a tropical storm would be a bit more difficult.
>mfw I know a guy who did exactly this

>>31719933
I think the documentary "Last Days in Vietnam" on Netflix features a pilot that hovered a Chinook on the surface of the water while he stripped out of his flight suit so he could then bail out into the ocean.
Gotta say that's right up there with your Nasty Gal

>>31725087
NG is a component of a branch you fucking mongoloid. NG is listed right next to the regular army and reserve when you check a box for your oath.

>>31723484
Yeah, you've got it right. Cantonese is weird like that.

>>31720094
iirc that vietnamese guy wasnt allowed to land his helicopter on the ship, so he removed his flight suit (while flying) and jumped out.

>>31725936
>after a tropical storm
>after

So the weather was fine. Get the fuck out.

>>31720064
comin' to take all your wimenz

>>31720064
xaxa

>>31719933
Relatively impressive.

>>31720064
K E K

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>>31720064
OMFG

My father was lifted off a oil platform during a hurricane by a multi rotor. He said it sounded like it was in full throttle just to hover over the platform then it let off and coasted up and away. Helo pilots are crazy tho

>>31720064
roh roh roh roh roh roh

know that feel

very very ronry

>>31719975
>China
Go home Donald you have a debate tomorrow

There are men who have no training, rusty old weapons, poorly equipped, no airforce support, no navy, no armor, who put up a fight against a nation with all of this. How impressive is this?

>>31719975

>China can do a maneuver using a class of aircraft that does not exist in their inventory

You're not even trying any more mate.

>>31720094

And he survived on top of that.

I've done it in video games tons of times, its no big deal, the thing that makes it tricky is that there is little room to fuck up there

>>31726928
in this moment the chinook is fighting gravity, lift, density altitude, human engineering not the taliban you retard

unless there are a bunch of talibs we don't see waving blankets and trying to blow the chinook over with their lungs outside of the picture

Probably harder for the guys on the roof, desu. I think that sort of ass-touch landing is something those pilots are trained on.

But Chinooks throw a ton of wind around right under them like they are.

>>31727969
wtf, I didn't type desu.

>>31723491
What is wind? What is rotor wash? What is wing over ground effect? What is earth's rotation? What is weight being added into the chopper? Literally what is real life?

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>>31720089
>Nguyen was now alone in the Chinook. How could he safely get on the Kirk as he wrestled with the 12-ton helicopter? He had another idea. He would attempt something that he had never tried before -- a ditch at sea. He flew the helicopter a safe distance from the Kirk and hovered for about 10 minutes as his wheels dipped in and out of the water.
Chipman watched what Nguyen did next from the deck of the Kirk.
>"This is crazy; he's taking off his clothes," Chipman thought to himself as he watched Nguyen.
>Somehow Nugyen took off his flight suit and his shoulder holster -- all while working various sticks and controls to keep the massive helicopter stationary. >One pilot who watched it said he couldn't figure out how Nguyen undressed while keeping the Chinook stationary. Nguyen then rolled the helicopter with its whirring blades to the right, away from the ship. As it began to tumble over and hit the water, he jumped into the sea.

>>31726728
They run the engines full speed for better control, and just manipulate the pitch in situations like that

>>31722313
You can always slow it down and crash it softly into a mountain.

>>31727976
What did you type?

This ain't nothing.

The real crazy shit that heli pilots do is turn off the engine and keep the rotors spinning while you try and keep from falling out of the sky.

>>31728281

Wait, are autorotations even done apart from emergencies and training related to them?

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>>31720064
Lel

>>31719975
lol comrade

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>>31719933
Chinooks make this easier, doesn't take too much skill.

>>31719975
I bet you that these china posters are just Aussies and Canadians Shitposting

>>31728046
Stuff like this, and a lot of the Medal of Honor citations, are the kind of thing where I know it happened, but it's still bullshit and doesn't sound real.

the really impressive thing is flying a V-22 and safely landing at the end

>>31720064
roflcopter

>>31722030

Mast bumping and blade coning are fucking scary. Almost happened to me when I was learning.

>>31719975
What I've heard, chinese moms and dads are both good men.

>>31729520
I have no idea what either of those things are, please tell me

>>31728046

who's this semen demon?

>>31728989
>china posters are just Aussies and Canadians
so chinese?

>>31728254
torque*

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>>31720064

>>31729627
oooh... Makes so much sense

>>31720011
>18 flight hours
Shut the fuck up.

>>31719975
Yes, those poor Chinese have to squat with their asses in mid air because their clif houses have no bathroom

>>31729691
and how many do you have?

>>31729738
95 and im not claiming to know shit

>>31729691
>>31729744
Yeah on fixed wing aircraft I have a little over a thousand real world. Much much more on simulators. I said I had 18 on rotary wing

>>31729550

>Mast Bumping
It can happen when you make too abrupt a turn on the cyclic. Cyclic makes you be able to move the helicopter to the left, right, forward, and rear. What happens is the rotor blades (airfoil) literally coming flying off and just the body plummets to the earth.

Blade coning is when you aren't creating enough lift via centrifugal force. The blades are bending upwards like a cone and you plummet. Once this happens you CANNOT recover blade coning. You're fucked and it is most likely fatal.

A lot of the first huey chopper pilots had trouble with mast bumping due to its design. When coming over a ridge and then due to instinct to push the cyclic forward to push the nose down the main rotor mast would collide with the main rotor cap and would literally decapitate the spinning blades from the fuselage and pilot thus killing them if too high up.

>>31729800
Not a pilot but I know a few.

They have told me that rigid rotors are less susceptible to both of those phenomena, making them pretty agile in turning and overall manoeuvring.

>>31719975
>¥2 has been deposited to your account

Am UH60 pilot, have hovered on both the left and right wheels off of a ledge. Relatively easy maneuver with all of the control coupling/ heading hold/ relative size of a UH60

>>31720064
Shiiiieeeeeeee

>>31720064
Who had the 20 million Chinese babies last year?

>>31730018
Ha. Bo 105s were made for frozen brain chopper pilots.

>>31729800
Jesus fuck, how do helicopters not crash constantly?

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>>31720064
10/10

>>31732049
Research and development. They've been around long enough that we've figured out how to NOT design a helicopter.

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>>31725020
>genius.
Main rotor is not the same than tail rotor jackass.

Also, take a look at pic related.
>b-but muh no tail rotor chopper !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAR

>>31732049
Black magic.

>>31733174
Kraut aerospace magic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ZUXNeBoHo

>>31728278
T
B
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>>31719933
>pilot cant see the ass of the a/c.
>he cant 'sit the ass down' too much on that hut or it will collapse. He is basically hovering with with wheels touching.
>if the winds are whipping around, its very difficult.

10 for 10.

>>31733533
The first person footage looks so awesome the pilot must've been creaming his flightsuit throughout the flight.

Considering astronauts landed on the moon using a flight control and navigation system less powerful than a TI-84 calculator..

Its not that impressive.

I'd imagine most helicopters have a hover function that binds with an altimeter anyways.

What's impressive is the pilots self control. I'd be tempted to troll the guys in the back by rocking back and forth.

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>>31720011

>>31720064
Absolutely perfect.

>>31734629
>I'd imagine most helicopters have a hover function that binds with an altimeter anyways

You would be hideously wrong.

>>31720011
How do you wind up piloting aircraft in the Air Force anywho?

>>31728046
Why was he ditching a fucking chopper at sea naked?

With bad winds this is hard. Without a wind this is about as easy as landing. Don't forget you have a crew chief in the back of the chopper telling you where to move.

>>31736448
There was no room for the helicopter. Fall of Saigon was crazy

>>31736448
Easier to swim.

>>31736317

Then why hasn't anyone fucking MADE ONE YET, FAGGOT???

God damn, even with laser rangefinders bonded to autopilot you can hover with stability!!

We have the fucking technology dude.

But you're right....

The military doesn't have it. Otherwise that military pilot wouldn't have crashed while taking a selfie.

I hate this place.

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>>31720064

>>31736515

So what your really saying is your not only not a pilot of any kind, but your also totally unfamiliar with electronic systems automation?

>>31736515
They have auto hover systems, adds weight, and are expensive.
Work decently though

>>31720064
simply epic roast my friend :)

>>31736515

They exist but no one really trusts them, and you still need a pilot who can do it without the electronic aids.

>>31736515
Yes, I'm sure that General Dynamics and Raytheon have left that money on the table because they enjoy the idea of helicopters crashing.

>>31736549

You're right. No experience with anything. But I guarantee you MIT students could create a hover function with some spare parts and a hunters rangefinder.

>>31736561
>adds weight

Yea I guess the military gets shit on in that regard. Something that should weigh a few pounds ends up weighing a hundred and costing a million bucks instead of a thousand.

>>31736580

I agree. A pilot still needs to monitor it.

>>31736581

Yea I'm sure the military industrial complex loves it because it means more money and contracts. No kidding.