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I am making a shopping list for some items for SHTF and I need assistance, also post yours and tell me if Im doing something wrong.

>Rifle
Going to buy a M70 ABM tonight from a guy to use as my SHTF rifle.

Everything else I own is hunting rifles.

>Pistol
Glock 19 is what I had in mind. That or a Glock 23. The police around here use .40 extensively.

>Backpacks and Gear
Looking at Kelty, any recommendations on how to carry your equipment around on foot?

Also I am going to get a ChiCom chestrig because you all have them and they seem functional. Unless someone can help me find something that isnt Airshit.

>Food
Tons of wise foods which are delicious already bought but need more

>Knife
Who is good brand for General purpose survival knife? Serrated or nonserrated?

>Boots
Already own MOABS that I wear all the time for work and general use. They are worn out and have nail holes in the sole, should I stay with Merrell's?

Anyone can help me ESPECIALLY with the how to carry gear and equipment (and pistol) around Id greatly appreciate it.
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>>31708102
Shit isnt going to hit the fan in your suburban neighborhood.
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2 weeks of food and water in your house to wait for the power to come back on without dealing with annoying lines for supplies
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Maybe I'm being an idiot here, but...

It seems like it's popular for people to choose a weapon caliber based on what the police carry, or what the military carries, or whatever for purposes of scavenging their ammo...

But if you have the opportunity to scavenge somebody's ammo, isn't it just goddamn likely that their weapon is going to be there, too? So... You could just take their weapons along with the associated ammo?

What I'm getting at is that this is a stupid way to choose your caliber right? Isn't it best to just get what you like best & maintain a reasonable stockpile? I use 5.56 and 9mm, but just for cost, current availability, and efficiency.
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>>31708259
Mostly this. I lean towards a 2 month supply of normal foods and a 6-18 month supply of basic foods (rice and beans) the harder part is water supplies and purification. Also plan for your climate disasters hurricane blizzard earthquake race riots etc. But short of a Katrina level event a month is pushing the edges of likely problems elapsed time
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>>31708358
Well if you don't know how to field zero or laser boresight a rifle it wouldn't be as effective an option but yeah you do raise an overlooked point. It is more convenient to have most weapons using the same ammo especially if you are in a larger group but it is not a necessity
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>>31708358
Debatably. The way I look at it is I'd rather have a weapon that I'm familiar with. Battlefield pickup invites all sorts of unwanted variables, both with regards to familiarity and state of (dis)repair.
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>>31708423
Very true but if it is taken as loot, examined maintained, and secured it is a weapon denied to your competitors
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>>31708253
That's exactly where it hits
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>>31710117
Its where panic hits. The actual shit would be more central to the city. If anything you're better off bunkering down in the burbs because errybody is gonna try to gtfo, you can then help yourself to any supplies left behind
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>>31708358
You actually raise a great point. At the moment it happens, you will never find ammo available for sale, like a panic but much much worse. While it's happening, ammo will be guarded by all who use it, so the only way you're going to find it is around dead guys, and dead guys should have their weapons on them.
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the only thing that matters with ammo is price (and obviously effectiveness). if you save 2000 rounds of 9mm for $500, you're more prepared than saving 1000 rounds of .40 for the same price (estimating, I know it's probably very innacurate). if shit actually hits the fan, it's always better to have more ammo than to rely on availability of the ammo because you don't want to trade for ammo after shtf. after shtf you'd want to stay inside and make your house harder to break into and defend it, there's no reason to carry everything you have around unless you want to be mugged.
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get lots of ammo, food, and water. keep valuable items like toilet paper, tobacco, porn, gold, lighters, etc. (anything that people would pay a lot for after shtf)

keep lots of spare clothing, and make your house look as unappealing as possible to not get robbed.
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>>31710328
Also a generally more common round and not too terrible to reload so overall for pistol ammo I support the 9. Shotgun is a gimme for 12 ga. And rifle is a toss up. Urban to suburban 5.56/223 rural to isolated I would say 308 or 30.06
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>>31708358
>>31708403
>>31708423
>>31710284
Do you know how in STALKER a lot of people would after a firefight take all the weapons on the field and stash them in a container for later use (such as parts or trading)? Making a stash of scavenged weapons is a good investment of time should the world ever come to that.

Also a reason why after real firefights and skirmishes the winning side would collect all the weapons and POWs. Hence why the Israelis have such a large stash of soviet era weapons.
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