Milsurp thread

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First, I came back with this French mle 1822 percussion conversion musket.

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The musket fits right in to early Civil War guns. The US imported a lot of them in 1861 and throughout the war.

Second, my dad came back with this m1941 Johnson.

>>31704251
That one looks really nice actually. Congrat your dad for me anon, ive been looking for one of those for a long time and haven't found much. How much did he pay for it?

>>31705238
I believe it was $4600.

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You have been visited by the BASED CUPRO NICKLE BULLET OF +10 DAMAGE, Cheap Milsurp and Ammo will come to you ONLY IF you reply to this post with "THANK YOU BASED CUPRO"

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got a bunch of stuff recently for my ammo collection/shooting

I got 2 boxes of Greek .303 tracer and 1 box of British Mk VII Ball

1/??

>>31705348
I originally got some 7.5 French for shooting but the stuff I got is odd so Im debating if I should shoot any of it. Also got a 480 round box of 7.5 Swiss

1/??

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>>31705359
woops forgot pic

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>>31705359
>>31705371
Also got some .30 Govt. 1906 and some .30 US Carbine.

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

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>>31705264
LUMPY
METAL
DEPOSITS

>>31705348
That .303 tracer is a rare commodity round these parts. Good find

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>>31705381
And then I did the 4473 for my .410 SMLE that was converted in 1932. Thank you based Poo-In-Loo's

>>31705389
I wanna fugg the bunny

>>31705392
Im actually kind of sad, I wanted to get a box for my collection and a box to shoot. Both boxes are covered in packing take and all the cases in the open box have split necks. I was originally going to buy like 500 rounds. Apparently the tracer bit doesn't really work no more so they are basically just normal Cupro-Nickle rounds

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>>31705371
Anyone speak French? Are these rounds AP or Tracer or something? They look different then the 7.5 French I have and others I have seen

>>31705429
You could ask /int/ they have a French thread every day and probably translate better than we can

>>31705491
Good idea

>>31705503
Your welcome

>>31704222
Does it still work?

Guess it takes too long to load to be viable for home defence, unless you keep it loaded, but that somehow doesn't seem safe.

>>31705264
>THANK YOU BASED CUPRO"
>>31705264

THANK YOU BASED CUPRO"

>>31705429
Frog here, these are regular rounds, indicated by both the
>Balles O Mle 1924 C
and the
>Bal Ord (Balle Ordinaire - Ordinary Bullet)
AP would be indicated Balle P while tracer would be T, TO (Tracer Ordinary) or TP (Tracer AP).

And if I'm not mistaken, on the left you have lacquered bullets while on the right it's a cupronickel jacket.

>>31706247
frog here too and can confirm.
>Balles O = ordinary (ordinaire)
>Balles P = perforating (perforante)

"Etuis" stands for "case"
"Laiton" is "brass"
"amorces" is "primers"
hidden under the bullet is "balles" for "bullet" obviously
and "Poudre" which stands for "powder", you guessed it. In grams, not in grains. 2.90 or 2.94 g equals roughly 45 grains of powder, if you're interrested in reloading.

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>>31704151
I just bought a Columbian mauser chambered 7.62 NATO at a gun show this weekend
>>31705264
THANKS BASED CUPRO

>>31706247
Frog here.

He is right. Just in case >.>

Where do you all get your surplus at? Ive been trying to win a finn nugget on gunbroker but the last 4 or so have gone for 700+
Is that really how much they cost for one in great shape?

>>31706700
Like I said when I started the thread I get most of it from gun shows. You just have to make sure you head to good ones not ones that are basically flea markets.

As for Finn Mosins, it depends. Is it an altered Imperial Russian, Soviet, or Finnish made, what model, does it have a sling, ect. Depending on those things $700 could be cheap or way overpriced. $700 is probably what my Finned 1895 dated Tula Imperial Arsenal is worth now.

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Got a new to me Gew 98. I just really love the rollercoaster sights. Haven't hade a chance to shoot it yet but the bore looks pretty good for a WWI rifle.

>>31704151
is that a FAMAS

What is the "best" no4 enfield? Ive heard the mk2 is a slightly better shooter than the mk1, something to do with the trigger.
Is there a big difference between the us made ones and the english?

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>>31707472

>>31708578
IMO, they're all pretty equal with the exception of sights. Find one that has the fancy micrometer sight and you're set.
I'm pretty sure it was an early feature on just the MkI's, but my 1943 Long Branch No.4 MkI* has it as well. Guessing the rifle got updated from MkI specs or something.

Anything in particular to look out for when buying Swedish m/96 Mausers? I think I found a deal on Armslist - $375 for a really nice-looking one - but for all my milsurps, I've never actually bought any Mauser, let alone a Swede.

>>31707472

No?

>>31708621
Sounds good. Il keep my eyes open. If i really wanted to i could just buy a micrometer sights bjt then it wouldnt be original.

Whats a fair price for one in good-great shape? $5-600?

>>31706982
What would a prestine vkt m91/30 go for?

>>31709526
One just sold on gun broker for ~800
I tried getting it for 650 and got super outbid

>>31709545
Haha nice. I picked it up for 175 2yrs ago along with an m39

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I only ever come to these threads to ogle surp and post the one milsurp pic I have

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>>31704151

Just got a 1912 Austrian made Chilean mauser that was converted to 7.62x51 real fuckin Nato for 250 not matching how'd it do?

AIM has shooter grade m48s for $180 and free shipping in stock right now GO GO GO GO

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3M48SG&name=Shooter+Grade+Yugoslavian+Model+M48%2fM48A+8mm+Mauser+Rifles&groupid=5392

Here's a link for you guys.

>>31710107
There's 2 left

>>31708658


It's clearly an M16A2

>>31709526
Since when did vkt make 91/30s I thought that was all tikka

>>31710082
How bad are these "shooter grades"

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>>31706247
>>31706426
>>31706494
Thanks guys, I really apriciate it. Here is a pic of all the different surplus 7.5 I have

from left to right by case head
>2-75 VD 7.5 LM
>59 D 1 TE
>2-67 S 7.5 TE
>Dirka Dirka Allahu Ackbar Syria

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What's the best milsurp for someone who's on a budget and never owned a manual-action rifle?

The Swedish mausers and Yugo mausers look really cool, but is the ammo cost going to kill me? And how much should I be looking to spend on one?

>>31710193
Don't know for sure, but AIM is usually pretty good about being honest or even conservative about grading their surplus. I bought one, so maybe we will find out as soon as Friday. For less than a Mosin I think it's worth it.

>>31709830
where you at and how much did you pay for that sexy SVT?

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>>31710242
Lee Enfields

>>31710272
I can eye fondle them all I want but I sincerely doubt they'll last until I get paid next.

>>31710291
y tho

>>31710356
SMLEs are cheap, fun and wolf makes steel case 303 Brit for 10 bucks a box.

>>31710347
All gone. Sorry you couldn't get in on it.

>>31710242
If you're worried about ammo costs either don't get into milsurp or reload.

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>>31710379
Sounds good. Thanks anon. what models should I look for and how much should I look at paying for them?

>>31710383
How much does it cost to get into reloading? I'm pretty new to gun culture.

>>31710387
No.1 MkIII* are usually the cheapest of the bunch. I got mine for 350 but you can get them for cheaper.

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>>31704222
neat

>>31704251
neater

>>31705260
thats a good price. was it post-war?

>>31705404
neat they shoot great, but dont use cheap .410 or it will have extraction issues

>>31707302
sweeet, lange vizier is best sight

>>31710395
~$500 setup cost, but over time you will make all that $$$ back. Esp with obsolete calibers.

>>31710429
>cheap .410
since when has .410 been cheap? Nigga its like 12 bucks a box. Plus I plan on getting some Golden Bear Sabot Slugs.

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Gibs me dat cosmoline

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>>31710429
Get the fuck out CT fag.

>>31705631
He plans on shooting it. If it doesn't work he will make it work.

>>31709420
Enfields are weird right now. I got my No.4 for $210, but I've seen them go for up to around $450 without getting into the weird collectable variations. For that matter, No.1's seem to be going anywhere from $300-$500, which is weird because they're generally more plentiful.

Really debating whether I should get a Dutch Mannlicher or not....I do like Mannlichers.

But a 98az is calling my name as well.

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>>31710447
>golden bear
sell that to me, its all my .410 saiga will eat.

I have like 500 rounds of cheap .410 that cost me about $180

I also got some british surplus .410 -- its reloadable brass case

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>>31710580
depends if you want to shoot it or not.

did you ever get a
>pic related?

>>31710703
There's a refinished example on GB right now from Sresiel....but I'm not paying $2000 for a refinished one. So the hunt continues.

>>31710429
I believe it is a WWII gun. Haven't looked at it too closely yet. I was too busy playing with and oiling down my mle 1822.

>>31710774
Winchester collector here.

Good luck. 95s, 86s, and 92s have skyrocketed in price.

>>31707302
What armory?

>>31710951
Damn shame. I'd kill for a Russian 1895.

>>31710951
No shit. I've been hunting for a Russian 1895 for almost 2 years now. I don't mind paying, but not for a refinished model.

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>>31710703

I have one, restored from a sporter, not cheap

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>>31710978
Amberg

Hey guys, hoping someone can give me a hand. A friend of mine just inherited some guns and he doesnt really know anything about them. I dont have any pics but I have a list of whats there. Just to say this out right they are all in really good condition but a few arent all matching

Swiss Veterlli SN 167XXX
Argie M1891 Mauser Carbine SN 85XX
Italian M1891 Carcano Cavalry Carbine SN C6XX
German Geha Mauser 98 16 gauge shotgun SN 52XX
and a German Mauser Model 1871 SN 79XX-0 or O

anyone have a value on these? He also got two M1 Carbines and a fucking Johnson but we know how much those are going for

>>31711336
Ugh i want that carcano... tell him i got $50 for it

>>31711336
Ask him f he wants to sell that carcano to me, my email is
[email protected]

>>31711624
Hes not selling most of them , he just wants to know the value

Fun fact: M24/47 slings are a bitch and a half to put on, and they look crappy after you have to fight them on.

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Just for shits and giggles, here's a pic of my vintage M1 Carbine. This thread needed America.

>>31711686
original or a new one?

>>31710281
1k in Iowa. Not a bad price as far as I can tell. Seems they tend to go for at least 1k.

>>>>31711699
Original.It said it was made in the 40s when I was looking up the info. Surprisingly it's the easiest gun I've had to get along with.

>>31711730
>Surprisingly it's the easiest gun I've had to get along with.
wat. Anyway who made it? Winchester? Saganaw? Inland?

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>>31711742
Inland, has the GMC barrel marks and everything. Yeah I got it for 750 bucks at a show cause I needed to replace my UC-9 that kept trying to kill me.

I've put about 300 rounds of brass case in it and it hasn't fucked up or done anything stupid so far when I was plinking. While the uzi managed to double fire, stove pipe, generally not work, switch itself into safety mid magazine, and then catch a squib and almost chamber a fucking round.

Century Arms, folks.

>>31710774
>buying from grey blanket
No thanks

>>31711775
damn you got a pgood deal

>>31711802
Lost 200 bucks on the uzi so it evens out.

>>31711781
He has some good stuff now and then. The Dutch Mannlicher I'm looking at for example.

>>31711781
its fine if you dont pay more than $400 for his crap.

>>31711636
If I may, what is he selling? I might be interested in the Argie or one of the M1's.

As for value, really hard to say without getting a good idea of their condition.

>>31711873
The Swiss Veterlli only most likely. All of the guns he got are all 95%-100% condition with great rifling. The Argie and one of the Carbines are not all matching

Was just informed by a friend that the shooter grade m48 I bought is going to be shit because "yugo Mausers are shoddy, poorly built" and that any Turkish Mauser would have been better.

Guess I fucked up, right guys? :^)

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>>31712014
>>31712014
Cockroaches can build guns?

>>31712014
>made on original Mauser tooling and parts
>Shit

Its a fucking Mauser 98 how can they be shit

>>31712066
I thought m48s were built in FN tooling

>>31710429
I checked the serial number and the Johnson is 1941 manufacture. All Johnsons were made during WWII.

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I've decided I want something German next, but I can't decide between a P38 and K98k.

P38
>cheaper, widely available ammo
>I don't have a handgun
>German engineering

K98k
>rifle would go better with the collection
>I don't have a Mauser-action rifle
>German engineering

>>31713117
You could get both, Russian Capture 98s are like 500-600 bucks

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Live dammit

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What are your thoughts on this General Motors manufactured M1 Carbine?

>>31708643
Check for matching numbers and check the bore condition. $375 is an ok price for a nice M96. Not a ripoff but not a deal of a lifetime.

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>>31714207

>>31714253

>>31714207
>>31714262
>>31714302

Looks like all late war features, kinda standard fair for a Inland.

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3 of my Enfield's. The rest are in the safes

So after doing a little research I found that while the mle1822 muskets were originally flintlock, mine was built in 1856 as a percussion conversion. It was never in its life a flintlock. As to why the French continued to build a musket well after it had been replaced and made outdated, I have no clue. There are no books in English that go into details of early French and European arms.

>>31715152
was that No.1 MkIII refurbished by the Indians? Why does it have an Ishapore nose cap?

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>>31715360
>There are no books in English that go into details of early French and European arms.
This is the pain of collecting French firearms.

>>31715360
>As to why the French continued to build a musket well after it had been replaced and made outdated, I have no clue

Rear echelon troops and firefighters.

Is is a T or a T.Bis?

>>31710229

>>31705371
>>31705429

Here mate, to complete my previous post >>31706426 and answer you, I found this :

http://www.municion.org/7_5x54/7_5x54.htm

Well it's in spanish but it's a BIBLE for 7.5x54 french rounds markings. With this you'll now precisely where and when your rounds have been made.

>>31717263
T bis made at Chatellerault in 1856

>>31705264
Thank you based cupro

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Alright, I got 2 new rifles so here's the first.

A fazakerly made Irish contract rifle, with bayonet. Mag doesn't match sadly. Paid $475

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>>31720457
Second is a 1903a3 made by Remington with a matching bolt. Got it from a guy with the bayonet for $600. Haven't shit it yet but at least I can use m2 AP if I find it

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>>31720457

>>31720462
I've yet to find a rifle more disappointing than my 03a3.

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>>31720462

>>31720462
I'm assuming that wood is a repro

is the bayonet a repro too?

>>31720473
>>31720484
Fix your potato

How much should i pay for a k31? On gunbroker theyre ranging from like 650 up to 1200.

>>31720595
Expect of pay at least $500 these days. You might find one cheaper, but it's not gonna be a regular thing.

on this note in frogland K11's are cheap, anyone got knowledge on the swiss K11?

Hey, can you guys help me out? I need a price check on a certain Mosin at Cabela's.

It's a 1928 Tula ex-dragoon that looks to be fully correct and parts matching, and hell, I can't even find any arsenal refurb marks on it. It came in a shipment of Century imports and is still in cosmoline. Aside from the annoying CIA billboard import mark on the receiver, it just has a couple of minor dings and blemishes on the stock. Other than that it seems to be pretty pristine. Couldn't check the bore because it was literally plugged with cosmoline.
They're asking $250.

>>31720490
Probably
>>31720490
Fight me

Just saw a dude trade 2 tins of x54r for a case of x39 at lgs. If I had been there 5 minutes earlier I would have given him a better deal. This is the shit that really pisses me off.

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I'm just getting into milsurp, but I recently bought my first one.

Currently finalizing a deal for a Berthier Carbine and a Arisaka Type 44 w/ mum.

I bought a 100% matching Mosin-Nagant M44 in pristine condition, the bore is perfect, and it has no capture markings. All the original markings are in fantastic condition, and you can clearly see the arrow/triangle and hammer/sickle stamps. The bore is mirror sharp, with clean, deep, rifling. Got it for $400 with a repro sling, did I do good?

>>31721877
I have an m44 in basically the same condition for sale for $225 and it's been on armslist since August and it hasn't sold yet. You tell me.


PS you did poorly

>>31721877
>Berthier
>Type 44
Fuck you.

>>31721953
wow, I checked the listing, it's actually in really good condition, especially for the price.

>>31721877
You overpayed about 175 bucks

>>31722005
what's wrong senpai?

>>31705264

THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31721953
Link? I might be interested.

>>31721877
Retard you do realize AK magazines with windows cut in them are the only AK mags that don't work worth a goddamn.

That's part of the reason why the chauchaut didn't do shit in WW1 worth a fuck

>>31722297
Yeah, I have plenty of other magazines without holes. The brown one with a hole in it was like $8, so I'm not that worried about it.

>>31716194
At least if I do get one of the books, I have a friend that can fluently speak French.

>>31722268
Not looking to ship, sorry. Unless you are in SE Wisconsin.

>>31715511
It was built in India in 1964. But still in .303
I have a 1916 no 1 mk3 that's all British

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>>31710412
>>31710387
I got mine for $315 2 years ago, it is all matching except for the stock, and was made in 1915.

>>31724189
too bad, i'd buy it.

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31709526
VKT never made 91/30s. Only M91s and barrels for M39s.

>>31710242
Mosin Nagant

>>31727367
Meme

>>31712712
yes, but barrels in different calibers and stocks were still made post-war

>>31722023
I need those.

I have yet to buy anything at a gunshow, but my dad did once enter a raffle at one and won a 50s Garand.

A few years before that, my mom entered a raffle at some store ( I don't remember the exact location) and won a chainsaw. She hid it from dad for months and gave it to dad as a Christmas present.

I fired my mosin last week with 10 bullets of corrosive ammo and forgot to clean it. Is this rust I see on the bore permanent or will this come off with some hoppes and ammonia products?

>>31730203
>Ammonia
Not needed. Bore brush, penetrating oil, and Hoppes. Next time, just run hot water through the bore after shooting.

>>31730292
Do you know if I would still need to clean it at all if I only used non corrosive ammo? Would it be bad for the weapon to let it sit?

>>31730412
If you use non-corrosive then you'd be fine. I mean, you'll have to clean it eventually. But leaving it sit won't hurt.

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31729641

Need is very strong word.

>>31730203
>>31730412
Don't follow the ammonia meme. The amount of ammonia needed to naturalize the salts would wreck the barrel more than the salts will. The salts are hygroscopic, as in they are attracted to water. Just flush it out with warm water.

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bippity bump

>>31734588

I'd like a hakim if not for shooting dollary doos

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>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31732334
It's also a strong emotion. So allow me to reiterate it.

I.
Need.
Those.
Guns.

>>31708658
It's a meme you dip

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May not have been in a war, but its still military surplus

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>>31735553
I feel your pain bro

I own 130 guns and yet will never get the one that I want most....

>tfw

>>31704151
>>31704222


Welcome them home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-733J2Gjj9U

Also nice find on that '22, still looking for one myself, here in Kentucky.

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>>31707302
Fuck yeah dude. Just remember to aim low.

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This guy has been around

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>>31736298

>>31705429
I speak french.
Provide a close-up.

I dont see anything related to tracers on the labels atm. It says 15 rounds w brass shells on stripper clips

>>31711026
Mosin Virus, is that you?

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Found a k31 for $350
>1942
>matching
>troop tag
>walnut
>some bluing wear
>comes with some gp11 and stripper clips.
That a good price? What should I look for to make sure it is in good shape?

Been thinking about getting a yugo m48 for a while, should I get the k31 instead?

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>>31737361

>>31737361
>>31737379
Yes get the K-31, I fucking LOVE the K-31, The only real downside is you have to buy a FUCKTON of ammo when its in the US. GP-11 only comes in once or so a year. But thankfully because of that the K-31 was a "Cheap and Afforable" shooter meme for a short time only. How much ammo and how many chargers?

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>>31705389
posting furry and or zootopia, disdain.

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>>31737557
no idea yet, found it on a forum tonight and messaged him earlier. Some unknown amount of gp11 and a few wax and aluminum stripper clips

>>31737783
Trust me, the only thing you will regret about the K-31 is not being able to shoot it everyday.

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>>31737783
You broke the chain dickhead

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>>31737777
WITNESSED

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>>31737813
Oh shit

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>>31737813
witnessed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>31737805

>modern day
>nuggers $300 a piece
what the fuck happened to the days when you could get a crate of nuggers for ~$1200 or < $100 per rifle?

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>>31737844

>>31737861
They got popular

>>31737869
Surely there's a place for $80 nuggers over the internet, r-right? Everywhere I check they're $300

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>>31737860
>>31737850
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>>31737882
No, that was literally their downfall. In 40 years you will be seeing 6 mosins on the gun rack at your LGS because no one wants them anymore. Russian Mosins arent that great anyway tbqh. The 91/30 are the 1898 US Krag of the 21st Century. Cheap and affordable for years

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>>31712712
whats your number? I found the 34th made at a PA funshow recently. Also mine is either 3k or 8k i can't tell

>>31737861
Supply is down, demand is up. Same thing that happened to Krags, and Enfields, and Mausers...
>>31737917
Yup, no one wants Krags. That's why they go for $1000+ all day long.

>>31738243
Krags are nice guns though. A lot of Mosins aren't. Plus you're also forgetting that unsporterized Krags are what are in demand.

>>31738243
Good god, in the 20s Krags we're dumped onto the market for very cheap. They were sporterized to all hell and have everything under the sun happen to them. Im not saying that people dont like Krags. Im saying that Mosins are the 2000's equivalent to what the Krag was in the 20's. Cheap and plentiful and down the road worth a good chunk of money

>>31737361
>Been thinking about getting a yugo m48 for a while, should I get the k31 instead?

Get the K31 and then I'll trade you my Yugo M48 for it

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>>31736138
There were at least 2 at the Allentown gun show I went to in PA. Piece of advice I got from the guy I bought that 1822 from, pretty much any French muskets you see that are bright are from France and the metal has been polished like crazy. Apparently that's the collector mentality in Europe, get rid of the patina and make it look like it did when issued.

This was the guys table.

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were do i buy this 25 round mag for a 1903

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>>31739320
what the caption says to the left

>>31738272
I'm not forgetting shit, because in 30 years that's what Mosin prices are going to be. Mondragons were cheap once too.

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>>31709824
nice arisaka

>>31709824
That's all any of us do here. And occasionally lord our stuff over other people who want it. If I find a RSC that's the first thing I'm going to do.

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>>31739627
>occasionally lord our stuff over other people who want it

Indeed. Isn't that part of the fun.

>>31710229
Your ammo collection gives me a boner. I miss having mine all setup on my shelf.

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>>31741381
Ammo collection, you say?

>>31737361
Whered you find that? Ive been looking for one but gunbroker has stupid expensive prices.

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>>31742604
You missed the boat of cheap K-31s.

>>31742636
Dont tell me that anon.
I just got into milsurp after enlisting. Carrying an m4 everyday makes it less fun.

Hell i cant find anything less than 450, even sks is like 600 where im at

>>31742670
Where do you live? If you're in MI I know a few guys who might be of use. Hell, I've been toying with selling my own K31.

>>31742842
Im in WA. If any of them are in good shape and a decent price id be willing to pay all shipping/ffl shit

>>31734588
>dollar bill shooters

Start reloading. Once You have brass, you can be shooting for under 40 cpr.

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>>31739491
Thanks man

>>31742881
Let me go dig up the contact info when I get home. There's one pretty nice LGS owner that always seems to have a stock of Swiss guns, and another guy on the gun show circuit that deals in all sorts of old milsurps.

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Here's my new Mas 49/56 came with 4 mags 50 rounds of ammo ammo can and sling for 600. Surprisingly for how big 7.5 Mas is it recoiled like my ar

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>>31705264
>THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31743329
Wait, are you selling? Because I sorta want a MAS 49....

>>31706464
Wish i had one of those just because I can relate to the rifle being half german half colombian

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>>31737361
>>31737379

Found pic another today, haven't heard back yet.
>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>m48 won't be here until monday
now what am I supposed to do with my weekend?!

>>31745305
Masturbate and look for ammo

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>>31745336
Already done

>>31742030
>Cupro Nickle .45 Stoppin powa

Aw hell yeah

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>>31745459
The Maxim USA one is rare. They only made 1 million rounds. I bought it for like a $.25. It's worth like $10 lol.

Here's a round of 6.5x50sr I bought.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6022608/fort-wayne-indiana-rifles-for-sale-trade--japanese-arisaka

Should I make an offer /k/?

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

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>>31745305
Learn about this man's life.

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>>31745485
>Should I make an offer /k/?
It's been chopped up. It's seriously worth like $100 at best.

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>>31745479
More cupro-nickel.

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31745505

Thought the stock looked weird, oh well.

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>>31745519
Since I'm posting ammo, here is some 1951 FN made .303 I bought on strippers in a bandolier. Shot all but 2 of the clips. Shame I didn't have more money to buy the rest the seller at the gunshow had...

>>31742030
>>31745479
>>31745519
Bruh dont make me bust out all my Cupro when I get home tonight. Ill do it senpai

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>>31745531
$400 is pretty expensive more most Arisakas even without bubba's molestation.
>>31745539
Same story for this ammo. I ran out of money for the 8mm Lebel on clips. She was selling them for $8 for 20 rounds on clips. The clips got for like $10 apiece ;_;

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

Question for the Arisaka guys; any record of the Chinese converting Type 30 carbines to 8mm Mauser?

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>tfw the $350 k31 I posted about got sold

so what do I do now? I could get a yugo mauser for $250, end up around $300 with fees and such. Anything I should look for under $300?

>already have type 53 meme nugget that I might sell

>>31748043
>Under $300
A Reloading press, so you can afford to shoot milsurps.

>>31748129
for the love of god stop posting on this board you useless retard

>>31745439
but from where?
and recently?

>>31748164
Na, I'm good chief. I'll keep that suggestion in mind though.

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>>31748037
>any record of the Chinese converting Type 30 carbines to 8mm Mauser?
Probably. Some of the North China Type 30 copies are in 7.92.

>>31748673
OK. Just wanted to make sure that such a thing would be authentic.

Those North China ones aren't particularly rare are they?

>>31748725
>Those North China ones aren't particularly rare are they?
While not rare by any means, they aren't exactly common either.

But the Chinese did convert a lot of rifles to 7.92. There was even a contracted Type 30 rifle with some warlord around 1900. Now those are rare. They have this cool dragon crest. There is someone on 4chinz in Britain that has an original and matching one of those. So jelly. Every other one that is known has been beat to shit by the Chinese before being imported in the 80s.

>>31749090
So a 8mm North China Type 30 carbine wouldn't be worth more than say $450 would it?

Guy I know has one and I'm trying to determine how much I want to offer him.

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>>31749145
Idk, what they are worth now. I really haven't kept up with them. Look around.

>>31749231
$450 it is. There are 2 1895s on GB right now and I'm not gonna handicap myself out of them.

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Ignore the old ass SxS and the AR.

Thinking about getting something semi auto next, maybe a 49/56. Might just buy an AK though, I haven't made up my mind yet.

>>31743329
FUCK
I HATE HOW MAS 49s GO FOR AT LEAST $2000 HERE IN CANADA

>>31745479
>semi rimmed
Why does this exist?

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CURPO

>>31749481
They're not exactly cheap here anymore either. Expect around $750+ these days.

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Picked this up a couple days ago for 525 Canadabux plus tax. It's a Swiss K11 Carbine with matching serial numbers, in decent condition, along with 120 rounds.

>>31749361
>Thinking about getting something semi auto next

Go get an m1941 Johnson or Gewehr 41, I know they're expensive now but they're only going up in value.

Anyone know where to find good No. 1 Mk. 3s? I really want more WWI guns. The largest gun show in the world is coming up November 12, and I plan on selling my Mosin there, but k wasn't sure if there's any place you guys recommend getting them.

>Tfw I found one today in a pawn shop for $180....

>....but it was sporterized with permanent modifications

>>31750150
A good gun show will have a bunch. You have to be selective of your shows though, biggest doesn't necessarily mean best. I've seen that show put on by collector groups are the best, hence why I think the Allentown PA show is much better than the Oaks show despite being much smaller.

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>>31750054

I dont have nearly enough for something like that right now. I'm a college student working at a grocery store so my income is rather limited. Planning on saving up what I can for the big Oaks show in December

>>31750205
This is Wanenmacher in Tulsa. I've had good luck with it before, like my Gewehr 98, which I got for $240 from a fudd planning to cut it down into a durr rifle. I'm just hoping that November 12 date won't completely kill my chances of finding good deals, considering what happens a few days before.

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>>31704151
Picked this bb up for $299 including 250rds and a holster.

DESU decent choice for a hilarious autism defense revolver. It was that or a hipoint, and I am getting another pistol in the near future.

It's dated 1917 Tula Peter the great

Bros, my LGS just got a decent looking Turk M38 in and want $175 for it. Should I get it? That's the lowest price I've seen on one in about a year. I don't currently have a Turk mauser but I want one.

>>31750269
If your looking for military guns and are considering Oaks, I'd much more suggest Allentown in December.

>>31750150
Armslist, gunbroker, or gunshows. If you aren't concerned with getting a 100% matching one, you could find a moderately sporterized one for under $200 and get new stock pieces and hardware and restore it.

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>>31750571

I'm actually doing both, I have a friend looking to build an AR that I am helping out with, so we decided to hit up Oaks.

>>31751017
Ok. If your going to the Oaks show don't forget to hit the PAGCA annex to it. It's all antique and collectable arms.

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Just sealed the deal on this '44 Inland M1. Serial puts it at a january manufacture. Has import marks on the barrel but its in great shape for a nice shooter. 650$. Guy also has a Quality Hardware M1 dated from '43 for the same price I may pick up as well becuase I love Carbines.

Is there some blue book type thing for milaurp? The prices seem to be all over the place for some of the guns I want to buy and I never know if what is a good price especially with gun show pricing

>>31753053
Flayderman's guide is the go to reference for American arms.

>>31752998
Lucky bastard. I want an M1 carbine so bad but New Jersey doesn't allow them.

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Auction's selling a bunch of old fudd guns tomorrow, went and checked it out. They got three "Japanese ww2 rifles" (literally all they describe/define them as). Two were beaten up as fuck with really bad wooden stocks, the back of the bolt blemished like someone defaced it. The third (lowermost) was in better condition. No chrysanthems on them though.

I assume the bottommost is the type 38 given the length and no dust cover. I have no idea what the top two are. Are they authentic looking or bubba'd? A quick glance and I think they are type 99s, but they are in such poor condition I can't imagine they'd sell for much.

As much as I love being Tendo Heika Banzai in Rising Storm looking up the price of ammo for it (assuming it wasn't bubba'd into 30.06 or some such) made my eyes bulge. That being said, how much could you flip a Type 38 in fair condition for?

They aren't milsurp,

>>31754261

Whoops sorry, I wasn't sure if 4chan was done unfucking itself.Obvious Arisakas are mulsurp. I was meaning to say "They aren't milsurp but looking at some other fudd stuff. Going to try and get the MSRPs myself but I'd welcome a second pair of /k/ eyes." but I'd rather not clutter up the topic further.

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>>31754261
Those three are all original and normal, minus the missing dust cover on the Type 38 and the scrubbed mums and assuming that the bolts match.

>the back of the bolt blemished like someone defaced it.
That's normal. That's a blob of weld.

>>31748214
Tuesday, from local gun shop. Paid 50cpr. Couldn't even find PPU so I settled for this.

>>31754324

Gotcha, thanks.

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO NICKEL

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>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

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Muh new sks

Tula all matching, 1951. Fucking cosmoline coating the oil bottle gotta take care of that.

First gun btw.

>>31750150
Not WWI, but I have a relatively nice 1940 No.1 MkIII that I've been toying with selling.

>>31755021
Good job syrup slurper

Just went to cabelas in buffalo New York and thought you guys would like some of the prices
699.99 for a yugo sks
499.99 for Chinese sks
1600.00 for a garand
350 for 91/30 mosins
350 for unamed and unmarked mausers
399.99 for ariska without the mum
799.99 for a m1903
And 349.99 for a mk4 enfield
Also note none of these are pristine they are all very beat up

I have never handled an mk4 enfield and it is now the next rifle I would like to purchase the one there was pretty beat up and had no good rifling.

>>31756152
Oh shit forgot to add all sks and mousers still coated in a ton of cosmoline

>>31756152
The 03 and the Enfield are fairly priced. So is the Garand, depending on condition, make, Etc.

>>31755057
How much? Where you located? If you're willing to wait until mid- to late November I may be interested.

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>>31756248
It was just a hra service grade that can be had at the cmp for around 700.
I agree with the 03.
What would a going price for a decent Enfield be? This one had a really bad stock and bore was almost shot out. Pic related

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>>31750504
If it's in nice shape and has a verygood-to-excellent bore do it.

I love Turks, I've got a 1903/38 and a 1942. The 1903 is the most accurate 8mm I've ever owned.

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>>31756599
Better pic of the 42' that I paid $150 plus California rape tax

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>>31756623
Guy brought a dozen to the shop and let me cherry pic the one I wanted most. He does mosins for the same price, but I have no interest in one of them. He is the guy with the huge piles of mausers at all the shows in the bay area and nor cal, his son works at the shop and hooked up the deal

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31756273
Pretty sure CMP is out of Garand, but at any rate, most No4s I see around $450+.

>>31750289
>saving a Gew 98
Doing the Lord's work, anon

>>31750318
your legs are so white anon

>>31752998
who the fuck is so poor to have carpet?

Same anon looking for No.1 Mk.3. Also looking for more Mauser stuff. If anyone here is based near OK I'll buy if you guys are offering.

I have an idea...
>find mosin with rusted out bore/fucked stock/some other glaring issue
>salvage the receiver
>get NOS m39 barrel
>and stock
>drill+tap salvaged receiver
>add accumounts PE repro

Then you'd have the Finn equivalent of a Gibbs m1903a4 but in 7.62x54.
I understand it seems bubba, but surely it's a better fate than continuing to rust away... Right?

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>>31750504
Yeah, that'd be worth picking up.

>>31756599
>>31756623
>>31756644
Nice.
>He does mosins for the same price, but I have no interest in one of them.
Aww, everybody needs at least one Mosin. They're like Mausers that way.

>>31705264
THANK YOU BASED CUPRO

>>31759165
I'm selling my Mosin pretty soon. Hoping to trade it for at least part of an Enfield in fact

>>31707472
No it's an arisaka

>>31716194
dont h8, but what is the gun on the top?

>>31734758
dafuq is that picture trying to say

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>>31759265
French Mle 1949/56.

>>31759296
its sexy as fuck

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>>31759324
Like most French women.

>>31759088
Bubba
Get
Out

>REEEEEEEEEEEE

What's the going price for a Jungle Carbine the mk.5 Enfield

>>31756266
MI, and post in a BST thread if/when you are. Can't make any promises that I'll have it then, but it's worth a shot.

>>31761297
Alright. Willing to ship?