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>law abiding Canadian gun owners

Who sells the cheapest surplus 7.62x39 ammo?

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Anyone have a m305 that has issues?

fucking chinkshit, failure to feed, failure to eject.

Replaced the spring guide, oprod spring, piston, got a different scope mount.

next step is new extractor+spring

Maybe its the mags fault too, gonna get some of those 10 rounder aussie enfield mags

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>"I don't go to a gun range" he says
>"No one minds when we shoot in the bush" he says
>"Why do outdoors people hate gun owners like us?" he asks

>>31703109
>buying Norinco
>ever
A savage axis could have served you for life but you decided to go tacticool.

>>31703177

Wanted a m14, already have a garand

gotta collect em all

>>31703177

Norinco makes decent 1911's and M1A's.
The rest is meh.

>>31692696
>>31696810
Thanks Tok. How is the T97's recoil pad attached, by the way?

>>31703058
>>31703139
REEEEEEEEEEEEE KILL ALL WHITE NIGGERS

>>31703395
I'm sorry, I didn't get around to it. I got dragged to an Oilels game and spent 7 hours of my day going there and back, only to watch them shit themselves harder than a team of toddlers with hardcore Downs Syndrome.

Just bought my first SKS today boys. What are some good aftermarket rail mounts I can put on?

>>31704623
RIFLE
IS
FINE

>>31704623
SI scout mount, or one of those whole-length rails if you have bad taste.

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Hey lads I'm looking into picking up my first sks and I've seen a couple like pic related floating about. Can anyone help me me out with finding this stock? Are there any benefits or reasons one would even want a thumb-whole stock over anything else?

thinking of going to my doctor's office with a shotgun cause negligence and medical malpractice, which load is best for killing someone but not damaging their spine? i need a new back cause the doctor's said there was nothing wrong with my scoliosis for 8 years and to just take some painkillers.

>>31703058
>>31703139
Little Iraq?

>>31705942
use shotgun as new spine

problem solved

next question

>>31706629
what kind of shotgun?

>>31706881
12 or 10 gauge 3.5" magnum if you might go goose shooting. Semi-automatic is good if you'll be shooting moving targets, but pumps are far cheaper and almost as fast. if you won't be shooting geese then a 20 gauge will work fine.

I'm trying to think of a shotgun that you shouldn't buy and I can't really find one. Giving money to turks is bad but the turkish shotguns aren't actually bad. norinco grizzly shotguns are a bit heavy for their size but they work and are fun. some shotguns are really expensive. everything else doesn't even have any mentionable downsides.

ithaca m37 is super cool because it ejects out the bottom. there are some clones that work in a similar way, including a recent run of stevens shotguns produced in china

Is it better to get the newer Vz58 or are 858s fine? We're there any problems with early CZ858s?

>>31707021
The odd time the early 858s would have the "gremlin" which caused issues with the bolt not resetting properly while firing, but they affected models have mostly been fixed, and it's easy enough to fix it yourself.

>>31703109
Failure to feed could be a mag issue. Failure to eject is extractor.

Some dude selling used 858 as second owner with 700 rounds through him by himself for around 850$. I don't know if that's a good deal.

>>31703201
What about the type 97?

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Is this a good looking bore?

1/3

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>>31707952

>>31707952
Is that cosmo in the barrel?

>>31707974
Looks a little rough, it might need some cleaning or it could've been shot a fair bit.

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m305s cost $600 now? what the fug?

>>31708445
what did they use to cost m8?

>>31708449
i think i paid $400 for mine two years ago

just saw one "on sale" for 600 normally $660

>>31708470
fuggg , i shoulda got my pal earlier .... sheiit

how is it that norinco doesn't have a website?

>>31708700
http://www.norincogroup.com.cn/cn/index.aspx

Notice it's norinco GROUP.

Each factory is a separate entity which sells through norinco. Think of it like each factory is a developer and norinco is the publisher.

>>31708752
you'd think there'd at least be a place with lists of products and pictures and stuff

all i can find about norinco civilian arms is gun store stuff

>>31708868
http://www.norinco.com/GB/61/76/87/index.html
http://www.norinco.com/GB/61/76/88/index.html

>>31708913
none of that is the civilian shit we see though

Awhile ago someone recommended me a <$100 cash drawer type thing from Staples that I could use as a legal substitute for a more expensive safe to satisfy the restricted laws for storing a handgun or two.

I completely forget what it was now. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>31710230
you can literally just buy a 10$ plastic box and pad lock it, then put your trigger locked pistol in it

I want to but my mother would think its weird

XD

>>31710230

Get a cheap stack on pds500 drawer safe. I was able to fit a full size 1911 and a 4.25 686. Although it's not high enough to close the door to use trigger locks.

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>Checking out handguns in Canada
>Glocks cost over $800, closer to $900 most of the time
>CZ's cost $900 for even the most basic bitch models
>Check American prices
>$500

>>31710257
i don't know what it is with pistols in canada

long gun prices aren't so different, but restricted guns are like twice the price here

does anyone know why this is?

>>31710305
Probably a combination of US export laws and Canadian bureaucracy regarding restricted guns.

>>31710305
It's the fun tax dude.
Anything fun here is more expensive than it should be.

>>31710340
i doubt us export laws are different for handguns than long guns

all the registration shit must be expensive as fuck

>>31710230
Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

I actually have a dedicated means of firearms storage. Not because the RCMP told me to, but because I actually care about my personal belongings.

If you're completely destitute, then I won't blame you for cheaping out so hard. Besides, if you're willing to make that kind of substitution, chances are your pistol isn't worth much anyway.

But as soon as you have the money for it, I strongly encourage a better storage method.

>>31710257
>>31710305
>Prohibited firearms are dirt cheap
>almost anyone can afford them
>but very few people actually have the proper licensing to own them
This is some carrot-dangling-on-a-stick bullshit going on here.

>>31711489

I hear you, and as soon as I can afford it I'll be buying a full-sized safe for proper storage.

But right now I'm a poverty-mode student, and probably an idiot for even wanting to spend $250-350 on a Tokarev or Norinco 1911. If I do buy one though I don't want to add more than $100 on top of that, and if I can legally get away with less, then so much the better.

>>31711506
i looked at the prices of prohibs once

i almost puked

machine guns, aks, all for like $800

>>31711523
Check Canadian Tire & Costco for sales every now and then.

Sometimes you can find absurdly low prices for fairly decent gun cabinets.

>>31710237

But if you don't want to trigger lock it, it has to be a SAFE, not a container or a cabinet.

>>31711523
Buy any of the safes at crappy tire.
The keypad ones usually go for about $60 and sastify the requirements of a safe.
As a safe you are also allowed to store ammo in them with the gun and don;t need the trigger lock.

>>31707924

Haven't shot one yet. Reviews seen mixed. The one I held seemed decent enough though.

>>31711683
I thought handguns had to have a trigger lock regardless of the bigger container it was in?

>>31711693
This. I spent $70 for a Sentry safe off Costco's website. Fix my big ass Ruger Redhawk great, plus ammo and a holster and stuff.

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>>31711745

>>31711683
yeah, and one of those cash drawers doesn't count as a safe

>>31711745

Nyet, /k/omrade. No trigger lock needed in a safe/vault.

>>31711745
Take the time and actually read the law.
If in a safe or designed room it does not need a trigger lock.
When in a cabinet or other similar container like a gun case it does need the trigger lock.
This is usually the second or third question on the RPAL test.

>>31711751
i wonder if the rcmp actually considers these good enough

they arent any harder to get into than a gun cabinet

>>31711773

The Ontario court ruling was 6 metal sides and a lock is considered a safe.

>>31711788

I thought it had to be marketed as a safe. Otherwise my piece of shit stack-on is a safe.

>>31711773
They are sold and advertised as safes. Under the law they are counted as safes, as proven multiple times in case law.
There is no legal definition of a safe so anything that is advertised as and meets the CSA/UL requirements is a safe.

>>31711788
i've heard that ontario said that - i wonder if those apply nationally

>>31711805
so i wonder if a gun cabinet is good enough then

>>31711801
My friend actually had his home searched by the RCMP, and his Stack-On cabinet satisfied their arbitrary storage requirements.

I really don't feel like telling the whole story again because I've repeated it like a dozen times in past /k/anada threads, but the gist of it is that storage requirements aren't actually as rigorous as one would have you believe.

>>31711821
Gun cabinets are sold as cabinets, usually for the storage of NRs. This means trigger lock.

>>31711830
since i live alone my whole apartment should be considered safe storage really

>>31711830
didn't he only have NR though

>>31711830

Fair enough dude. They're vague enough that it seems like they'll fuck you if they want to (link related) or let you be if they're cool.

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/lorne-gunter-canadas-laws-on-the-safe-storage-of-firearms-need-clarifying

>build a fucking vault in your basement
>assholes spend three days breaking in to steal your shit while you're out of town
>get charged with unsafe storage
>fight the system for a decade before charges are dropped

>>31711865
He also had R firearms.

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I sold my beat up 10/22 recently. Just a stock 90's model carbine. Wasn't into it. An older gentleman bought it, just sent me photos of what he's done with it.

I had him pegged all wrong thinking he was a fudd.

>>31711878
what was the deal with fire bomb guy?

why the fuck were they fire bombing his house? it sounds like something that would have been national news, all the articles i ever saw on that were vague as fuck i wonder what else there is to that story

>>31711898
>all that tacticool and it still only shoots 10 rounds

are you actually supposed to lock up ammo? does anyone actually do this?

>>31711914

Probably Somalis.

I can't believe that in this country if someone fucking firebombs your house, they break your balls for firing WARNING SHOTS

>>31711938
The minimum requirement is that they be stored separately from the firearms.

The only exception is when they're locked up. In this specific circumstance, firearms CAN be stored with ammunition. Some people lock them up for convenience's sake. "Separately from firearms" is too vague anyway.

>>31711974
does a shelf beside a gun cabinet count as "separately"

>>31711987

It's up to the particular cop who's in your house for some reason, probably. Always be polite anon.

>>31711997
so you're saying i should kill him and dispose of the body to be on the safe side?

>>31711987
What did I say about "separately" being too loose of a term?

>>31711878

The laws absolutely need clarifying.

They're expecting every gun owner to do the kind of research normally reserved for lawyers and law students. First you have to do statutory interpretation, then look for court cases just to make sure the courts are reading it the same way you are.

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>>31711956
They were white. Pic related.

http://new.nfa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/THOMSON-IAN-TRANSCRIPT.pdf

>>31711914

You mean Ian Thomson anon?

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>>31712107
I never intended on studying law, but I think I might actually do it.

You can never have too much firearms advocacy.

>>31712107

It's fucking sad.

>>31711898
Nothing triggers me quite like a harris style bipod on backwards...

>>31712180

lel yeah there's no doubt.

>>31712180
>Balaclava
>calling people goofs

Moleman what did the old guy do to you?

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>>31704623
Magwedge SKS-TKR

It works GREAT.


>>31704629
RIFLE
NEEDS
UPGRADE


>>31704704
Fuck you buddy. (I tried looking for this mythic SI mount prior, Google & Bing had nothing)

>>31712521
what? i dont use that word, ive only ever had people call me a goof and threaten to rob me of my guns or jump me with bear mace. im still waiting too

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>>31712620
You will have to probably file it square a bit on the left edge of the stripper clip notch though.. cause I did.

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>>31712620
>>31712640
Pew pew! (still haven't sighted it in yet, waiting for a day off work)

>>31706960
>ithaca m37 is super cool because it ejects out the bottom.

Just like me. That's pretty cool.

>>31712620
Literally the first thing under a search of "SKS scout mount".

http://scoutscopes.com/products/sks-mount-with-70-inch-rail

Looks like they sent me both rails instead of just the 7in. Still can't get the rear sight off, though. Boy, is it pissing me off.

How much could i expect selling an sks with a magwedge?

I post a lot of neo-nazi stuff online, is it possible the RCMP would have me on a list and refuse my PAL?

>>31713411
Yes.

>>31713411
Yup, no more guns for youuuuuu

>>31713411

I've been shitposting on /pol/ for years and i got my RPAL in 28 days.

>>31706208
No it's Squamish Valley fsr or more specifically Ashlu Creek fsr.
>drive BC logging roads to hunt bears or deer
>signs are always shot
wtf i love bc now

>>31713489
>and i got my RPAL in 28 days.

Shhh, you'll trigger that one faggot.

>>31708445
That cop killer gun should be banned as well as the min14 and any other high powered semi automatics.

>>31714697

Troll softly, my friends.

>>31713411
The RCMP don't care anon. They only care about traffic violations.

>>31714725
The RCMP have a specific group of seven people who monitor social media and forums.
This is addition to the task forces that monitor sites flagged for violence, hate speech, and pornography.

>>31707974
>>31707952
If that's not rust, it's nothing serious to worry about. Shit tends to cake down into the sides of the lands over time. Clean it thoroughly and then see where you're at

>>31714786
But mostly they just spend their time on /k/ Canada threads trying to trick hapless anons into incriminating themselves.

>>31714885
So... uh, do you guys ever unpin your magazines?
>I swear I'm not a cop guys

>>31714786
>seven people

>>31703061
I got a 1500 round crate for $300 at Cabela's recently.

I've gone through ~250 rounds so far with zero failures. The ammo seems high quality. Copper washed steel FMJ, typical shit. Appears to be Chinese surplus from the '80s.

What are some non-prohibited battle rifles that aren't M1 derivatives?

>>31715392
The Famae Sig rifle clone
uh
uh
XCR .308
uh
That's about it man. Not a whole lot of options in Canada. I'm sure I'm missing some obscure ones that you don't find on the market very often.

>>31715392
>>31715733

RDB
Modern Hunter
Cant think of much else

>>31715804

RFB sorry

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>>31715392
SVT. Or pic related, if you hate your wallet.
>So expensive to shoot aaaahhhhhh

>>31715891
The hell is that?

>>31716017

SVT converted to .308

Are the Lever Arms Chinese 7.62x39 Surplus really non-corrosive?

>>31716072
It's actually in .303.

>>31716148
why

How often do Ishapore 2A1s crop up?

>>31715233

>Wolverine has 1440 Chinese surplus for 225$
>Get to checkout
>TDG Fee: 25$
>Shipping: 45$

JDIMSA

>>31711830
Post it again anyway!

>>31714885
Come on man RCMP won't care. Just drill out that rivet and post a pic. I'll give you two internets

>>31716373
haha right anon, I too have taken the rivets out of all of my magazines.

>>31714885
Please post "pics" with complete exif data so that we anons can really enjoy them.

>>31712776
Hit it with a hammer

>>31713398
Depends on the condition of the SKS and the rail, but I suppose $250 would be reasonable.

>>31716235
They only crop up when an Indian has too much iron and fiber in his diet

>>31714446
Can you elaborate please on where people generally shoot? Just random gravel pits? I just googled Ashlu Creek, and it looks glorious. Would rather go there then risk getting shot by hillbillies in Mission.

>>31715891
BUBBA WHY

>>31716017
>>31716809
>>31715891
Globeco 303. They were a company that converted them way back when 303 brit ammo was a dime for a dozen boxes.

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>>31716017
>>31716203
>>31716809
Here's his rifle with my SVT to show how different it is. The piston work is gross.

>>31716728
Ashlu creek is not a good spot. The "ranges" are too short and the backstops are questionable. Sylvester road is far superior for recreational shooting but the RCMP can give you some shit sometimes. I think there's a small task force that drives around Sylvester Road to see if anyone is doing something illegal.

>go Sylvester road
>shooting 22lr at trees
>RCMP stops me
>checks PAL
>they ask if I have handguns
>tell them I can't buy handguns
>they tell me I have an RPAL
>lol I didn't even know
>they tell me not to shoot towards the lake and at trails
>ok
>one suggests I go to a gun range instead
>okokokokok
>walking back
>see dude with a truckload of guns and a handgun hoistered on his side
>decide not to be a snitch
>politely tell him that cops just drove past me
>okokokokokok *BAM* thx *BAM*

I love sylvester road!

>>31714725

Traffic violations? You're trolling.

>>31716917
Try texting while driving next to a cop and see if they don't care. Try going over 30 in a school zone in front of a radar. Try going 40 over the limit in front of a radar. Try not wearing your seat belt, make uturns, hog the left lane in a highway, etc. The taxman will drain your wallet without mercy.

>>31716970

I meant as a reason to deny a PAL application.

>>31716981
I think you mistook my post. Yeah you can denied for a variety of reasons.
>criminal record
>firearms prohibition
>serious mental health conditions
>bad references saying mean things
>RCMP forget that you sent an application

I ticked off the mental health thing and I got an interview due to it. The license took me 9 months but I feel like it wasn't just due to my application.
>reference (dad) gets interviewed
>I should get license in 3 weeks
>2months later I get an interview
>license should be yours in 3 weeks
>3 months of nothing
>call them
>"Ye it's in the CFO's office and just be patient"
>think it was refused
>think of bow hunting
>arrives 9 months after I sent application
>buy hunting rifle
>go to crown land
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>31717021

I got my mom for a reference, no mental shit, and all that jazz, so I should be good. I'm in the middle of the waiting period right now.

>>31717042
The waiting sucks but if it makes you feel better, guns are pretty boring once you shoot them a few times. The only fun part is hearing protection or rather the lack of wearing it. I highly recommend omitting earpro to get the full 'HUNTER'S EXPERIENCE' once you get your high powered rifle.

>>31717061

I've shot 12 gauges and .30-30s before. The ringing is not quite permanent, but then it's from my job not the guns.

>>31716902
>handgun hoistered on his side
Maybe it's just me being paranoid but how common is this?

>>31703109
>>31703177
>>31703201
is the m305 really that bad? I was planning on getting one

>>31717061
>guns are pretty boring once you shoot them a few times
Maybe shooting isn't for you then. I enjoy each and every shot of my vz58 and I will continue to do so.
Maybe you go too often, I have maybe one to two big sessions in a month.

>>31716981
>>31717021
I know a faggot who keep getting denied because his neighbors keep calling the cops on him when he make too much noise late at night.

But the guy is a retard so I'm with his neighbor on that.

Do any anon's own the rare 1945 svt 40? post some damn pics if you do.

>>31711878
they can charge you for unsafe storage even if you don't have any firearms

being charged means nothing in canada, except that the cop doesn't like you

>>31717147

Could have been an antique.

>>31717195

The M305's are breddy gud. The receivers are better the Springfield M1A's.
Buying one is on my list.

Would I get booked for improper storage if I kept my NR in a safe in a storage locker?

Can anyone recommend a place online to get camo? Stuck in Kingston for school and the nearby surplus is kinda bland.

>>31713411
It wouldn't even matter if you were on one of those "terrorism" watch lists. I'm on like 3 of those and I get special screening on flights yet I still got cleared for secret squirrel shit and a PAL.

As long as you don't have a criminal record or a weapons prohibition you're good.

Avoid the term neo-nazi, it's used by breathless pinko journalists in hit pieces. Use the word nazi, or national socialist. Nazi doesn't have to follow NASDP policy, it just needs to be built on the same core principals and ideals. If it doesn't share those, it's not nazi. I have the same argument with neo-cons and neo-liberals. Other than that, keep up the good work.

>>31718571

If the storage locker is metal, throw a padlock on it. It is now considered a safe.

>>31718824

And how exactly do you find out if you're on a watchlist?

>>31718571
I believe they must be kept at your current address. There are some other possible places to temporarily store or display firearms outlined in the CFSC, but I can't remember them right now.

>>31719156

It would be a uhaul storage locker with a padlock. Don't firearms need to be at the owners residence?

>>31717195

Like all norinco products they're hit and miss. Some people get ones that function great. My buddy got one that has a faulty bolt hold open and the charging handle jumped out of its rails sometimes while shooting
Some people get reliable T97's, some get one plagued with issues

>>31719156
wrong

>>31719487
No, they can be stored elsewhere like a locker at the gunrange, but not certain if there are other places. Best to call the CFP and ask

>>31719162
Say you want to bomb something, then you'll know

Is it illegal to have a shotgun bedside with a combination trigger lock (unloaded) with a box of shells in nightstand? I mean. the gun is technically locked out. and stored "separately" from ammo.

>>31719745
To be safe I would lock the nightstand, because then they can't make the argument that it's too easy to get to. I mean you have to go through 2 locks ffs. If an intruder takes that long he deserves death.

>>31719770
I guess maybe ill find a small combo box to put inside my nightstand.

>>31719745
>>31719770
>>31719816
Get a safe, put the gun and the ammo in the safe next to each other.

>>31719926
Eh i have a safe, its too big so its in the basement. Im sure the triggerlock will suffice. Ill just lock up a few rounds. As long as i make an effort to stay safe/legal im sure its fine.

Tim Horton's is garbage, both their Timbits and coffee
All Dressed chips are too

>>31720099
Just a little tin box big enough for the gun and ammo by themselves, you mook.

>>31716902
I'm taking an sks, mosin Nagant, and maybe a kar98k up to Sylvester road, for the first time.

Any tips/what to expect ?

Last thread i asked about mag caps and what reason they had to exist. And someone mentioned something about removing a pin and negating the magcap. Can someone elaborate on this?
t. Nogun who probably doesn't have the motivation to get a pal

>>31720129

...cool story??

>>31720199
Magazine capacity restrictions were just a knee jerk reaction to that turbofaggot shooting the women.

The guy must've been talking about drilling the rivet and then you now have a standard magazine though.
Of course, we don't do that here because we're citizens that follow the law.
RCMP.

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>>31720199
If you look at the magazine in this rifle you'll notice a small silvery dot on it. This is the pin, it limits the magazine to a 5 round capacity instead of the original 30 round capacity. You can easily remove said pin, however it is illegal to do so.
>And get off your ass, it's piss easy to get licensed.

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Question for earth dweller and other /k/omrades who actually went to the trouble of getting a Valmet:

can you detail the process, did you look on US websites and have it imported? did you do it through lgs or ee?
how much did it cost you (raifu itself and the process)?
>imB4 low balling the figure to avoid jealous cucks laughing at you
how do you deal with mag and spare parts availability?
do you carry any extra paperwork around, take other precautions to avoid confusion of people or autoorities thinking you got a prohibited firearms?
was it worth the money and the time in the end? (does finally getting legal AK wear off or are they great enough to be worth it on their own?)

>>31720129

>all dressed chips are shit

End yourself.

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>>31720772
>all that spelling
fuck be, whata the point of having autocorrect if it comes up with words kind "autoorities"?

>>31720789
>fuck be
>whata the point
>words kind
JUST
U
S
T

>>31720365
>>31720368
Thanks guys, ill look into the pal, any ranges near the (north)toronto area?

Also where can i get an sks scout? Heard those were nice, plus they come with a rail that allows for clip use. Also heard that k98s are good, but hard/expensive to come by (apparently mauser is making mk98s again, but as expensive hunting rifles) Or should I save that for another thread after pal get

>>31721135
http://www.firearmslessons.ca/firearms_license.php
You'll find Toronto in there I'm sure.

Start with the SKS for a starter firearm for sure.
You may love having a k98 and for sure pick one up if you want but make sure you look into ammunition costs before you buy something in a non NATO or Russian caliber.

>>31721135
fseso.org to find an instructor, SKS is good, but you'll have to upgrade it if you want more than basic model.

>>31702884
Burger here. What is the process for bringing guns with me through Canada if I drive from Montana to Alaska?

>>31721135

Do it sooner rather than later. A lot of courses are booked up for weeks/months, and on top of that is usually a 3-4 month waiting period to get your license

>>31721275
DO NOT try to sneak them through. Canadian border patrol are assholes to coming in to Canada and they will try to fuck you.

Call up the RCMP and you can get some little permit to take along with you that says you're only moving them through. Shouldn't be an issue, they just want you to let them know what's going on before you get into the country.

>>31721275

Pretty sure your best answer is to call the Canadian Firearms Program: 18007314000 and get the answer directly from them.

>>31721328
So best way is to get papers straight and then hand them to the guards and they shouldn't hassle me, right?
>>31721345
I'll do that.

>>31721355
There's a decent chance they'll search your car anyway, bjt if you don't tell them and you're found with guns you'll probably never be allowed in Canada again at the least.

>>31721405
>you'll get searched

Should I bring lube?

>>31721460
Yeah, Probably should do some stretches and limber up as well

>>31720772
since im probably the only one out of like 2 on here with a valmet ill answer
>did you look on US websites and have it imported?
yes i imported mine NOS from Florida but you can also get them in from Finland through reputable importers but you have to speak read and type finnish or your gonna have a bad time
>how much did it cost you
$3200($2550usd) total back when the dollar was hovering around 89-90cents on the dollar, literally days before it crashed to 75 cents.
>how do you deal with mag and spare parts availability?
make them
>do you carry any extra paperwork around, take other precautions to avoid confusion of people or autoorities thinking you got a prohibited firearms?
No, people usually are stoked to see it at a range. Havent been stopped by cops with it but when i doif they ask if i have any firearms im literally gonna say yea just the ak in the back. of course after i hand them 3 forms of id and a range membership cause im not a criminal
>was it worth the money and the time in the end? (does finally getting legal AK wear off or are they great enough to be worth it on their own?)
its worth every cent, the feeling never wears off cause saying "I own an ak" never get old. but of course you have to deal with fags saying its not an ak cause its not russian or not in x39, ive had some say its not an ak cause its not full auto, and poor fags saying they arent worth getting cause wasr's are like 600$ not understanding that valmets are collector's guns, or people saying its illegal, and criminals will say theyre gonna "trunk and slump" you for it, just tell them they can try but itll only result in grievous bodily harm and death for those involved, it works for 100% of the time

>>31721613
Not the anon who asked, but is there any way to get a x39 valmet? Are there conversions it commercial ones legal for Canada?

>>31721613
i understand it's annoying when people give you a hard time or say that ti's a waste of money

but assuming everyone is just jealous is silly

there's plenty of people who are definitely not jealous, it is an obscure novelty that means very little to a lot of people

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how much ammo do you guys have on hand this very moment?

>>31722111
Nice try RCMP.

>>31722125
does the rcmp care how much ammo people have?

considering how much cheaper it is to buy in bulk it's not uncommon for people to have thousands and thousands is it? i pretty much exclusively buy shit by the case

>>31722139
We all know only terrorists and criminals stockpile ammunition, none of us law abiding gun owners would ever do such a thing.

>>31722154
are you also considered a doomsday prepper if you shop at costco?

What are some quality non-restricted semi-auto rifles? I already have an SKS and would like something more modern.

>>31722254
vz58 is pretty much your only options for something non restricted and modern, unless you want to spend $3-4000

>>31722254

depends on how much your budget allows.

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>>31702884
A
FUCKING
LEAF

so no ones going to tell me how much ammo they have?

>>31722269
For now let's assume the sky is the limit.
>>31722271
It's not a bad looking rifle as far as AKinda-47s go, I'll look into it, thanks

>>31721929
you can just swap the barrel on a 308 one and put in a magwell spacer, theres also 308 to 7.62x39 chamber adapters but apparently they dont work well in gas operated guns and i could see why

>>31722323
valmet, tavor (apparently it sucks), XCR(apparently it also sucks), swiss arms, ACR, type 97 (chinese garbage)

that's all i can think of off hand

>>31722111
>>31722125
>>31722139
>>31722154
Exactly 9999 rounds. since 10000+ is considered an "arsenal" and illegal.

I just bought six 7.62x39 fmj crates and have a few hundred each of 7.62x54r + .303 british few boxes of 12 guage slugs + target loads

>>31722323

you got XCR's, modern hunter and varmint, tavor, NR conversions like FS2000 and PS90, the occasional valmet if you are feeling saucy.

>>31722348
the modern hunter/varminter is a poor choice for most people

those are precision rifles, very picky about their ammo etc

if you want a rifle to fuck around with for fun it's not a good choice

>>31722100

Yeah agreed. I couldnt care less about AKs. I think theyre overrated
Paying $3200 is ridiculous to me. I heard mags are like $300 each too.

>>31722345
is it really?

i've seen stores selling 10,000+ round cases of .22 before

>>31722377
IDK i read it in rules years ago and set the goal Only thing that sucks is when i buy a new gun i might have to burn thru a crate of ammo or sell it and i dont want to :-(

>>31722377
You are only allowed to have a "reasonable" amount

>>31722412
so that should be whatever i end up with from picking up ammo when i see it on sale, the shit literally appreciates in value and doesnt go bad if stored properly so wtf

>>31722366
>aks
>overrated
besides sks's and vzs their the most reliable guns you can own. pretty much anything with an ak or ar18 action is top teir reliable. and 3200$ isnt ridiculous if you have 15000$ or more into guns. have you seen anything cadex puts outs? serious shooters spends thousands just on decent optics

>>31722432
it's still $3200 for something of not that impressive quality, and it was $3200 used as well right?

>>31722345
there is no limit on how much ammo you can own

>>31722445
3200 new old stock, unfired. and the quality is top tier i consider it as good or better than russian aks, the milled valmets are a prime example of valmets craftsmanship.

>>31722432

Most rifles out there are pretty damn reliable.
If you have better piece of mind knowing you have a AK, then good for you. But most ARs are pretty squared away, along with plenty other rifles out there.
The thing I dont care for on AKs is rock in mags, no last shot hold open, rightside charging handle, and inconvenient way to mount optics.
I don't think the x39 round is particularly ballistically sound either

>>31722477
so you dont like the ak design? cause if you changed stuff to suit your tastes you wouldnt have an ak. also talk shit about x39 after you test its penetration power to the max, steel core x39 turns cover into concealment, doesn't matter of its brick concrete trees or a car engine

>>31722341
Tavor is fine, the stock trigger is crap and it's prone to breaking if dropped though.

>>31722588
apparently it shoots fuckloads of gas into your face, and apparently the trigger isn't just crap, it's so shitty that most people can't shoot the rifle accurately, and apparently the rifle is inherently inaccurate on its own, that's why it's being redesigned as the x-95

>>31721613
thanks a lot for the detailed info, learning that there is such a thing as NOS Valmet is actually a big deal, I assumed there were only used ones (especially picturing beat up ones someone might buy from a native that never cleaned it and kept it in a shed next to a shovel). where did you manage to find a NOS one?
another dumb followup, what do you mean by "make them"? how can you make your own mags (I can see some spare parts being possible, like pins and springs)

>>31722100
people who genuinely don't care are not going to go out of their way to point it out; and will not be writing posts about how he should have spent his money in a better way, how he overpaid or what useless purchase it is, etc

>>31722636
>people who genuinely don't care are not going to go out of their way to point it out
it should have been obvious what i meant by "don't care" is "don't care to put in a bunch of money and effort into having a franken AK just to feel like they can say "i have an AK"

>>31722633
Yeah the original model certainly wasn't worth the price tag, but it was still pretty popular.
>It could've just been popular because it's an NR 5.56 rifle.

>>31722456
You can only have a set amount of powder including the stuff inside bullets.

>>31722773
The limit based on that is something along the lines of 300,000 .308 rounds.

>>31722335
So did they make 7.62x39 Valmets, or is converting one my best option?
And they're collectables? ...Now I feel bad about wanting to fuck with one.

>>31722561

Correct, not a fan. I think the VZ58 I up's it since it has hold open.
Also I didnt say x39 was a bad round. Just not ballistically the best. I'd take one in 5.45 but thats not even availible in Canada. I preffer <7mm ammo since it shoots flatter

>>31722789

A lot of them have already been fucked with. You could just buy one of those.

If you just want a long-stroke gun with rotating bolt, aren't there a few options coming?

>>31722789
I was under the impression they had made x39 models, but I could be mistaken. As far as being collectible, they aren't made anymore as the company that made them was bought out. I think they recently became an independent company again, but it's unlikely that it will ever make rifles again, and even less likely they'd be allowed into Canada, even if they make them identical to the originals.

>>31722664
this is what im talking about>>31722636 people will claim valmets are just "franken aks" or "slutted up to look like and but not ak". it has an ak bolt ak bolt carrier ak trigger group, just cause its got a few slight differences like the reciever and how the gas tube is held in doesnt make it anyless of an ak. but like i said serious collectors and shooters spend 10-100x more than the cost of a single valmet. i know someone with a scope that cost twice as much as my valmet, and its on an already 3000$ 338 lapua

>>31722633
That's not why. X95 is now the issued rifle in Israel because it was better suited to be used in urban terrain, just a shorter Tavor.
And I shot 1.5 moa with stock trigger on a bench all day long.

>>31722789
there is ones in x39 but theyre 6000$+ just convert a 308 one

>>31722782
Yeah that one, it's huge but still a limit.

>>31722856
fucked those quotes up. meant to quote>>31722636 first

>>31722879
I very much doubt anyone will ever actually hit said limit. At least anyone on /k/.

>>31722856

By that standard, the Swiss Arms rifles are AK's, too.

>>31722815
what do you mean "ballistcally the best" the only reason they switched to 5.45 is because you can carry more ammo, which is helpful when you are fighting a war as a squad, using suppressing fire and so on

for us, who are hobbyists, x39 is a very good cartridge

>>31722860
>on a bench
wow you sure showed me

>>31723020

Like I said, I prefer <7mm bullets because they are flatter and I do not have such a high holdover at longer distances. I mean it wasnt the best for me personally, not bashing the round at all, I just prefer the alternatives.

>>31723055
isn't it so light that it slows down faster, counteracting the flatness gained from the high velocity

>>31703139
>giant pic
>everything is out of focus

what the fuck is wrong with you

get in here fags

>>31703139
>oh no an ugly ass clear cut logging road has some shot gun shells on it
>>31703418
lol faggot

>>31723030
With a stock tavor trigger, that's not bad.
The trigger is supposed to be heavy because it cuts down on negligent or accidental discharges from soldier amped on adrenaline wearing thick gloves.

>>31723020
>>31723055
Also x39 is typically less consistent if you're shooting surplus, which mostly everyone shoots. I also would prefer to not clean my rifle after every outting unless you don't mind the rust

>>31723144
my point was sitting on a bench things like a shit trigger to matter as much as shooting off hand

>>31723165
yeah i can understand not wanting to clean every time, generally i only shoot one corrosive gun at a time though so there's only one i need to clean

the ammo cheapness definitely makes up for the time you have to spend cleaning though

>>31723201
I always enjoy relaxing and cleaning my guns, especially if it's a rainy day out and I can just relax and listen to music while I do so.

>>31723221
i definitely don't mind it nearly as much now that i wear gloves to do it

i live in a one bedroom apartment though so i don't really have a comfortable work bench type area to do it in unfortunately, so it always feels like a bit of a pain in the ass

>>31723257
I just do it on my bed, but I'm in a similar situation.
>I have to be careful not to spill solvent on my sheets

>>31723274
i usually do it on my coffee table, now the finish on it is fucked, somehow the ballistol stained it a weird whitish color

>>31722139

I read on CGN that you can have up to 225kg of explosives, so the weight of the powder/primer, according to the RCMP. That's... a lot. i can't find the thread though.

>>31723317

http://firearmslaw.ca/gun-law-resources/firearms-legislation/explosives-act/

>>31723317
so 77161 rounds of 308

>>31723384
The brass and bullet doesn't count.

>>31723360
so im guessing tannerite counts too?

>>31723399

Probably. However, if the cops are weighing your tannerite and ammo stockpile, there's a good chance your life is already fucked.

>>31722869
Don't conversions have issues?>>31703109
I like that wood stock. What kind is that?

https://discord.gg/zP8UrTb

get in here

>>31723471
the only issue is cost

Is it possible to buy replacement Vz58 barrels?

>>31723135
Whenever you go into the woods, you should leave it at least as clean as it was when you got there. If you can carry something into the woods, you can carry it out of the woods.

>>31723991
technically where your house is was woods

better get tearing that shit down

>>31723881
No, they're pressed into the receiver. You'd wreck the receiver trying to remove a barrel.
>It would look something like a prolapsed anus

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I'm not even feeling enough to reeee about it today.
>>31724004
Are you retarded

>>31711788
So triangular safes don't count? What about an irregular heptagon? How do beveled edges between 90 degree planes factor into this?

>time sensitive, pls help

>>31724070
Depends on the engineering fit used. There are many different interference fits.

Is it possible to get a mortar? Using the thing properly and understanding how to counter it intrigues me

>>31724355
Explosive rounds would be illegal. As long as the overall length is greater than 26 OAL it'll be non restricted.

I spoke with cool CFSC guy yesterday, I wanted to see if he had any shotguns he was getting rid of as I know he's big into skeet/trap.

I asked what I'd need to spend for getting into trap and also bird hunting.

>Hunting? $650.
>Trap/skeet, I hate to tell you, but about two grand. You want a break action Beretta or Browning.

Opinions? Why do all break actions seem so fucking pricey when pump/mag are technically more complex? I'm just going to buy a fun black tacticool Mossberg or something to fuck with a little bit, and if I decide I like shooting trap then I'll consider getting an aesthetic old timey break action.

>>31724384
explosive rounds are legal is you have an explosiveslicense and shit. you also need a magazine to store explosives which need to be inspected by resources Canada or something.

>>31724440
Because of how they make them.

https://youtu.be/Lfo1QUGfWZE

>>31724440
Break actions require more labour- a worker has to do more hand-fitting. Also, the barrels have to be regulated so that they shoot to the same point. For trap/skeet, you could try a semi-auto instead. You'll save a bit of cash that way.

>>31724555
>For trap/skeet, you could try a semi-auto instead. You'll save a bit of cash that way.

I'd tend to agree with this, but I've heard horror stories of fudd-tastic ranges who only allow the use of break-action shotguns of a specific length on the skeet range. Dunno how prevalent this is country-wide however.

>>31724541

This commercial is pretty cozy, thanks anon

>>31724555

Nice, I will look into that. Anyone have cheaper semi-auto reccomendations?


>>31724609

Shit I'll check with my range. I have to take a 2h orientation before using the trap range, I'm sure that's covered.

What 9mm pistol should I get next? I have a striker fire pistol Im not happy with. I want something that's;
>full steel
>not striker fired
>preferably DA with a decocker

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>>31724644

90's action heroes all agree.

>>31724653
Yeah was thinking about it, I narrowed it down to
>beretta m9
>jericho 941
>cz75b
>1911 in 9mm

I can't decide which one to get

>>31724653
That Beretta is pure sex. Though it's still my dream to own a steel-frame Jericho 941 so I can act out my Cowman Beboop fantasies.

>>31724623
>cheaper semi-auto reccomendations

I like to check out Shotgunworld to hear what the forumgoers there think about things. The Remington V3 has been receiving good reviews.
The Mossberg 930 is cheap but decent enough.

Cabelas has a sale on the Franchi Affinity right now.

>>31724680

I like my Beretta. Picked it up gently used for 599 with a few mags and a locking case.

I really liked the feel and look of the CZ SP01 as well.

>>31724384
Oal? Is this information in the pastebin? If not where would be the best place to look?

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>>31716346
Okay, but only because I love you.

Alright, so my friend used to live in a house that was rented out separately. He rented the lower floor, and an unrelated family rented the upper floor. For intents and purposes, they have the same address. There is no "Unit 1/2/A/B" because it's a genuine house, not an apartment or townhouse. This causes a great deal of confusion for mail, pizza delivery, and first-time visitors.

One of the people living upstairs is supposedly schizophrenic. One night, he was having schizo fits, and threatened to kill his dad. Obviously, 911 was called. Since the RCMP was involved in this domestic disturbance, they already knew ahead of time that there was a PAL holder living in this address, and there are restricted firearms registered to this address.

The RCMP arrived and were able to successfully subdue the schizophrenic individual upstairs. Then came the question, where the fuck are the firearms? They rushed as fast as they could because the combination of a violent person and the presence of firearms is not a very fun situation.

It was then that they learned of my friend living downstairs. They came knocking at his door at Oh-god o'clock in the morning, asking to see his firearms, to ensure that they were properly stored.

So my friend, while barely awake, directed the cops to the Stack-On cabinet that he bought for $99 at Canadian Tire. He showed that this was where his firearms, both restricted and non-restricted, were stored. The cops were satisfied with how he stored his firearms, and they both told each other to have a good night.

I usually only tell this story in /k/anada threads when someone asks if firearm lockers/cabinets are legally adequate for storage. I've been trying to cut down on it because I've repeated it way too many times, but some people really need the reassurance.

tl;dr someone has already been searched once before, it's good enough.

I sincerely apologize if anyone's sick of reading this story again.

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>>31723741
you missed the extra questions in >>31722636

plz respawn

>>31723399
One of the main selling points of binary explosives like Tannerite is that it literally cannot explode unless you mix the two components thoroughly.

I can't imagine it being classified as an explosive in its raw, unmixed form.

>>31719544

Ontario court ruling says otherwise, anon.

>>31724653

Goddamn right.
I love mine.

>>31724609

>mfw I shot trap with a 12.5" Grizzly
>it was glorious

>>31724555
>>31724609
>>31724623

The main point against a semi-auto (or any tube-fed gun, really) is that the swing will change as the center of gravity moves further to the rear each time you fire.

Not a big deal unless you're trying to really be competitive, but that's the logic.

On the bright side, it absorbs some of the recoil, so you'll have an easier follow-up shot.

>>31724865

Overall length.

>>31725009

Just copy-pasta it.

>>31725177
yfw stolen by furious trap-fudds

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Anyone else really interested in the Type 81?

>>31726615
Not me, because I'm principally opposed to buying firearms from certain countries, no matter how good the firearms purportedly are.

>>31726615
Vapourware as far as I'm concerned.

>be september
>"Guns will be in-Canada next month guys, stop worrying"
>come october
>"So yeah, the factory hasn't even begun production yet. But they will be here before 2017, we swear!"

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I bought a matchlock Jezail the other day

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So there's an adapter for the VZ58 that you can buy, that allows you to use AR mags on the .223 version of the VZ58.

Any idea if this would work on the x39 version as well? There are x39 XCR pistol mags that are modeled after the AR magazines.

>>31725009

Why not add it to the pastebin?

>>31726719
It works fine with 2014+ CSA VZ's, dunno what year specifically they started making the receiver cutouts to accept these adapters. In any case they feed and function fine with the 7.62x39 XCR mags, although I personally can't stand the aesthetics.

>>31722317
Around 12k rounds. But 5k of those are .22 so that doesn't really count.

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>>31726717

>>31726615
very curious to see reviews.
it's a sound design, simple and solid, marrying the best aspects of an SKS, VZ and AK, and having fingerfucked it at a show for like an hour, I can attest to the fact that it's built like a soviet tractor

>>31726695
>delay
>it's never happening
right, because this is the first time a new firearm has been delayed in a Canadian market

the NR was granted, the order has been placed, the pictures of civilian models at the factory have been posted, now people are just waiting for Norcs to get around to filling what is a smaller and less important contract on their list.

your spoiled child attitude belongs on CGN

>>31727186
>the pictures of civilian models at the factory have been posted

When and where? I haven't noticed anything aside from what that "hankwei' guy or whatever posted a while ago.

Doing my PAL next weekend. What can I expect?

>>31727051

Broham, move literally anywhere. I used to
live just south of sactown. Call has a hilariously high cost of living. Make some phone calls and find a job that's open and just bounce. If you can afford a few mil sure rifles, you can afford to move to Oklahoma or some shit.

>>31702884
Anybody doing BMQ right now? Just finished my first weekend at North Bay

>>31727390

You sit down, go through the books page by page, talk about different actions, powders, things that should be common knowledge if you've spent any reasonable amount of time reading about guns here, handle a bunch of guns and then do exactly what was discussed and practiced in the class solo in front of the teacher.

Anyone who isn't a retard can pass, and even then. It's just about gun safety.

Keep ACTS and PROVE in mind and you'll be fine.

If you want to calm your nerves, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9-E0DLQO1I

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>>31727425
ugh what?

>>31727435
BMQ sucks dude. Reserve or regular? Did it like 4 years ago now i think. Out now but if u have questions about reserve I can answer

>>31727516
What branch were you in? I'm considering going into the air force reserves as a structures tech, or perhaps full time depending on what happens with civilian employment.

>>31726615
For the price no, I mean that thing cost the same as a CSA VZ-58 did a few years back, and I can't imagine the fit and finish being in even remotely the same ballpark.

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Just finished skinning out some lynx anyone else do something Canadian today?

>>31727690
Army, artillery. I will join again when I'm not so fucked by school. Its very hard to do when in school even though they cater towards your civ life. My friends that stayed in ended up dropping out of school, which i thought was a poor investment so I quit.
Don't settle for doing something you don't want to do, the money isn't very good so if you are not enjoying it then you will not last very long.
Shooting C7 full auto was the best moment of my life.

If you join make sure you are the grey man for all of your training courses EXCEPT at the range. If staff notices you going above and beyond at the range, you may get extra ammo. Happened to me.

>>31714471
>Friend had been waiting 6 months for it
>Apply
>I get PAL/RPAL in 1 1/2 months
>3 months after I got mine his comes in the mail
I don't understand why his took so long

I'm reading conflicting answers everywhere I go. Can someone help me with this?

Is it required for a safe to be bolted down? Some places saying no as long as it's got everything locked in it while others are saying it is a requirement

I'm moving to an apartment soon for college related stuff and I don't know how they feel about me drilling holes in the wall

>>31728158

Nope.

>>31728092
I'd like to think that the delay that some people have with getting their PAL has something to do with an ever growing gun culture here in Canada. In all honesty though I'm sure it's just shotty management.

>>31728432

A bit of both.

>>31728432
It is true that more and more people here are getting interested in guns. And actually doing restricted too.

Nice to know that there may actually be a backlash if they try and make restricted firearm ownership even more strict

I'd love to be able to shoot handguns outside of a range

Bump limit reached. New thread: >>31728655

>>31726931

What's the difference with say a 2006 858? Is the magwell completely different from the newer Vz?

>>31719162
leaks, friends, intuition and logic.

you'll never get a complete list of the lists you're listed on, but it's not important. santa also keeps a watch list, you know

>>31719487
the CFP wants to know where your restricteds are stored because of the registry. you just call them and tell them the address you'll be storing the guns. for guns that aren't registered it doesn't matter.

>>31721613
>criminals will say theyre gonna "trunk and slump" you for it
this is the part where you say "whatever happens, I have an AK and you do not"

>>31722561
you could make all those modifications and it would still be an AK.

>>31726719
I've been having a bit of issues with the fit of the xcr magazines in my 7.62x39 vz.58

The BHO doesn't work yet, but I also haven't fired it with the new magazines. Other people don't seem to have the same issue, there are youtube videos of people using this combination.

I'm concerned that XCR magazines will be (illegally) considered illegal by the RCMP soon, but I have CCFR legal defense insurance so I at least have backup.