Vatnik Thread

Daily Reminder: "Ukraine" is really just West Russian and East Poland.

>>31701161
Except there's no money to build it. Assuming the claims are even remotely true. Ironic that the bastard children of the USSR are doing the same wunderwaffe shitck.

>>31701161
panzer problem

a shitload of shitty shits beat one polished shit

>>31701161
So basically its almost as good as modern tanks like the Leopard and Abrams.

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>>31702764
>So basically its almost as good as modern tanks like the Leopard and Abrams.
It's much better protected from the front, Have a look how thick the armor is around the drivers hatch on a M1 or Leo2 are.

What game changing tech is the US waiting for before developing their next gen tank?
Lasers?

>>31703451
The M1 still leaves place for improvements the T-72 didnt.

>>31701161
Except the koreans already have a better MBT that's in service and isn't just another prototype queen like all of Russia's shit after 2010.

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This thread is now claimed by the Slavs. Owners of 1/3 of the planet and a good chunk of the cosmos.

>>31702321

Except most Panzers, save for the Tiger I were shit and usually inferior to their opponents.

>>31703451

They're just going to continue bolting stuff to the M1 for now, you don't replace that many tanks without good reason. Any temporary deficiency can be made up for with; numbers, training, and combined arms. There are still too many questions about what a future tank will be like to settle on a new tank.

What gun? Should it be bigger to future proof? 130mm? 140mm? 150mm?

If the shells are bigger, is it time to move to using an autoloader? Bigger shells will be heavier and more cumbersome for a human loader to handle for long periods. It might be time to go to a three man crew and

What kind of protection system? Aside from all the ECM and optical/thermal smoke will be the integration of an APS like Trophy. This technology is not yet mature.

What power plant? Diesel or turbine? direct drive or electric? will it have an auxiliary power unit and of what kind?

What sensor suite and integration to ISR systems? In the same way the F-35 is highly integrated sharing data, how should the next gen of American armour communicate?

Are the Russians onto something with a unmanned turret, or is it a meme? Should the ultimate goal be to make an entirely optionally manned tank?

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>>31701161
Well that looks like Afghanistan is not EFP but shrapnel.

Also camera is not as good as advertised, you can see here that the motion tracker works but the camera has a blind spot beside the tank. If an ATGM nest pops up on that spot, the tank is in danger.

Also OP forgot Nakidka

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>>31701161
OP forgot

Datalink to SIGMA and other Battle Management system. Pic is tank commander controlling a drone.

Nazi here.

Our mistake was not allying with "Socialism in one Nation" Stalin desu

Can slavs still accept us?

>>31702298
USSR does a shitload of wunderwaffen though, even remote-controlled tanks and robo-dog.

>>31701161
Confirmation of no coaxial gun?

>vatnik propaganda

Stop with your imperialist threads russian faggots, no one in the free world like you because you act like a childish Bond-villain.

>>31703344
That is a very poor way to measure armor thickness. Tank roofs are generally much less armored.

>>31706045
12.7 mm coax and 7.62 on the roof

>>31701161
Is this even official?

>Shows 2 different kinds of APS
>One APS is shown to be like ARENA
>Tank does not even have cartridge launchers like ARENA

This reeks fanboism

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>>31706106
>Tank roofs are generally much less armored.
If they were designed in fucking 70th. Now even heavy APCs have better armor.

>Nobody in the turret
Confirmed this tank would be a smouldering, turret-less pile of shit in seconds because crew will have 0 situational awareness using a couple fucking cameras.

>>31701161
>shitposting in the OP

boy this will definitely be a productive thread

>>31706028
Nazi get out man or at least don't announce it shits liable to get you in trouble... unless you are in south america