Fighting a mob

>>31685323
Look up disparity of force.

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Just don't go to Africa or the Middle East.

>>31685654
Or Cologne.

>>31685323
I avoid them.
I live and work in places where these things don't happen, and those types of people dont live or congregate.

I find avoiding the problem to be highly efficacious. If I can't, a Roland special

>>31685323
>Fighting a mob
You don't. You get away and use whatever force necessary to do so.

>>31685323
As Mark Anthony said, even a mangy pack of wolves can take down a lion.

I don't care if you are the reincarnation of six of the worlds top operators, you don't win against superior numbers without superior fire power, so unless you ccw an MG42 in your fanny pouch of holding, a single individual can't win a fight against an angry mob.

You run and evade.

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>>31685841
>unless you ccw an MG42 in your fanny pouch of holding

>>31685323
I wish there was good video of this. :(

>>31685665
more like any demonstration where leftist thugs are protesting

>>31685702

Murphys law. Just cause you think it won't happen, doesn't it mean it wont.

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Claymore mines. The answer is always claymore mines!

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>>31685654
There's always that one black guy in the picture!

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>>31686987
Thats what the Roland Special is for
>on the right

The only viable solution I could think of is having a pistol with high capacity, low recoil, and is set up for point shooting. I know /k/ has a poor opinion of them, but maybe a Fiveseven? Having spare magazines and a backup subcompact on an ankle or shoulder holster seems like a good idea as well, or even a sizable knife if whatever is left of the mob still wants to fight.

You'd have to train a lot and always be prepared, and have a bit of a psychopath streak. No ordinary person is going to happily gun down 20+ humans, even if they're out for blood.

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I carry a half dozen CS grenades in my truck for just such occurrences since I live in Detroit.

>>31685323
Running away, because as much as I don't want to end up on the evening news as a casualty satistic, I don't want to lose my job and livelihood because I blasted some dindus over a case of Tecate on the way back to my trailer.

>>31688251
Are there under-barrel cameras for guns yet? I'm imagining something like a dash cam that starts recording when you turn the safety off or put your hands on the grip.

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Montante.

It's a weapon and fighting system specifically designed to defend yourself when outnumbered in an urban context.

Used like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNy_drriXs

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>>31685323
Do you not remember Ukraine?

>>31686139
There's footage of other events. It happens often.

>>31688344
I'm sure there are. That would be cool.

>>31688462
>Carrying a sword with you
Wew lad

If in a vehicle hit the gas and turn them into bowling pins.

>>31688251
>4chan user
>Running
Tell us another one.

>>31688462

That's the funniest shit I've seen all day

>>31685323
Ever read that interview where she tells what happened? Fucking savages. They should be exterminated.

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>>31685323
>How do you deal with mobs?
"Men of Harlech, stand ye steady..."

>>31686626
wheres that from?

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>>31688857
They are doing what they have done for millennia. Her fault for going there. Same with anyone else from a civilized society.

>>31688885
Looks like Ian from the Forgotten Weapons channel.

>>31685323
Are those supposed to be a mob ? It just looks like a bunch of guys interested by the camera and one stuck up bitch.

Anyway a gun is enough to scare most people, just shoot at the ground or something. Not looking like a pussy also helps.

>>31688891
>Her fault for going there. Same with anyone else from a civilized society.
Do you feel the same about immigrants?

>>31688462
There is nothing more autismo than sword people.

Kill yourself.

>>31685654
>Just don't go to Africa or the Middle East.
or Germany or France or sweeten or or or or

>>31688912
thanks
it did ring a bell

>>31688964
>>31688856
Why the hate?

These people spent centuries fighting off hordes of Muslims/Berbers during the Reconquista. It's proven and effective crowd control, if there aren't firearms in the equation. And you won't run out of ammunition, overheat, or get swarmed from multiple directions like you would even if you had a belt-fed machine gun.

>>31686139
I saw a webm with fresh angles that clearly show her fat tits.
It's coming to America. Tammy Duckworth in Illinois is working out a deal to bring 250,000 here after Hillery is sworn in.

>>31688873
"...It cannot be ever said ye
For the battle were not ready
Stand and never yield..."

>>31688917
They are animals. They do what they were built to do. If a nation brings in a wild animal, they should expect certain end results.

Its not like the behavior is surprising.

>>31688796
>>31688856
>>31688964
Love to see you get close enough to him to touch him with out sustaining a fast fatal wound.

The three of you are idiots, that was some effective shit.

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>>31689210
>Love to see you get close enough to him to touch him with out sustaining a fast fatal wound

This is why sword people are all fucking austistic.

>>31687652
He just trying to find a good place to put his tire, doesn't know what all the fuss is about.

>>31689935
thread context

>>31689935
Angry mobs tend to not use guns, especially not in areas where carrying a gun gets extra legal scrutiny.

>>31688840
Holy fuck spot on.

>>31690086
>angry mob runs up on you
>pop off 3 or 4 shots from gatmaster 9000
>watch as rest of crowd scurry off in a panic

Well that was really hard.

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>>31685323
at a minimum you're going to need a god damn shitload of ammunition.

>>31688143
I've been thinking about this after seeing some nasty mob videos. At first I thought maybe a smoke grenade to create some concealment while relocating. Then I found these CS grenades are actually civilian legal. Smart choice. Maybe a flashbang would be a good option as well? Are those legal?

Do you carry a gas mask that covers your eyes? Are you concerned about that? What's your plan?

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The first guy that says "Get him!!! He only has 6 shots!!" you put a ,454 casull through him... and about 7 or 8 people who are unlucky enough to be standing behind him.
>webm related

>>31685323
That is where positioning is important. You want a choke point if you absolutely cannot run, with luck the first few you drop will be deter further potential physical harm.

Le 30 gorillion capacity magaclipazines come in handy in this totally unlikely scenario.

>>31688344
A friend and i are building one right now, it even live feeds to a wearable monacle device that had programmable cross hairs so you can use it to aim and fire if you want. It should be ready for production in a month or so.

Op that screen shot from that video triggers the fuck out of me.

When I watched that video and the camera light shut off I got that dropping feeling in my gut.

I knew she was fucked.

It's not white knighting, I just wanna kill these fucking savages.

Wish miniguns and belt Feds opened up with machine gun fire on that crowd of muzzie scum

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>>31690088
>niggers
>thinking about consequences

Pick one

http://thebostontribune.com/florida-business-owners-engage-in-shootout-with-looters-31-confirmed-dead/

>>31688462
Let me know how well that works out for you once they start hurling bricks and whole trash cans at you.

>>31689210

Ok so ignoring the whole "I could just shoot him" point, this is how I envision it going down

>Angry mob forms
>They goin' hard, nigga
>Comin atcha
>The lone warrior draws his sword
>Only 54.99, mom got it for him for Christmas last year
>Blade is dull and beaten up from years of intense man vs shrub cqc
>It matters not, this man is a master of his craft
>As the mob closes in he delivers the deadly spinny cut cut inuyasha kata kawaiii move
>hits dude in arm, cuts him a little but he was totally cheating by wearing a thick coat
>sword is knocked to the side by the attacker
>The lone swordsman is punched in the face
>The pain is shocking, this isn't like the animes at all
>Drops the sword
>is stomped to death by a crowd of 12+ people

Or, lets say that he's actually competent, and has a sharp, well-made legitimate sword with legitimate training

>Swing sword, slash chest of two attackers
>Is shoved over by football tackle while his sword is in the air from the first strike
>Is stomped to death by a crowd of 12+ people

And all of this is going on the assumption that he isn't already surrounded.

Swords are fucking useless now, man. The only reason anybody used them is because guns weren't invented yet. There is a reason the entire world decided that guns were better in every single way.

>>31690773
Lol... just empty strawmen you're spinning in your head... the weaponmasters that created these fencing systems had decades of experience fighting in life-and-death scenarios like that.

Everyone who lived before the invention of guns were brainless zombies... right. Got it.

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> how to fight a mob?
The tried and true old fashion way.

>>31690857
Sword autists still can't come up with a valid reason why carrying literally any firearm wouldn't be better off than some autistic sword wielding NEET

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>>31690857
Shit was pretty raw back in the day tho.

>>31689041
Or orlando or dallas or milwaukee or charleston

>>31690908
Rather have a knife than a sword, usable if youre jumped on and it will take time for them to even realize you have one. Multiple quick stabs in the abdomen and throat are preferable to playing knight

>>31690857

How in the fuck did you take

>People used swords because guns weren't invented yet

To mean

>All people who lived before guns were 'brainless zombies'

Are you seriously this fucking stupid, mayne?

>>31690636
sorry bud, thebostontribune.com is a fake new site

>>31690857
you cannot win a fight against an entire crowd of people with a sword. If you're lucky they'll stay away. If you're unlucky then someone will throw a large object at your back and you'll get in the head with a 2x4 as you falter

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This ought to do it

>>31685323
During the London riots, i was working in east London. Bow E3 to be exact, there were gangs of violent people everywhere, cars on fire and i even saw a blackie with a hand gun. Being a law abiding citizen and with England being England (you can go to prison if caught with a spoon outside of a dessert bowl) i naturally got out my van and dowsed myself in petrol, walked into the crowd and set myself on fire. Not one person Attacked me. You have to think outside the box OP.

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Have a converted Jaffa duel wield p90s

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>>31689085
Jack Duckworths sister.

>>31691225
>Bow E3
Isn't that the 'ends' that Wiley 'reps' in his hippety hoppety songs?

I downloaded some grime albums a little while ago you see. I like it compared to most American gangster rap.

>>31685323
Florida had an issue with rape gangs in the early 90s.
Just stop being a woman when there's 40 drunk, bored, unemployed guys fucking loitering in a park.

>>31691323
Wiley and Dizzy, yes.

I didn't now they still did gangster rap in the US of A. I'm still listening to Sex Styles by Kool Keith.

I like to have a little boogie to grime with my nigga mates.

>How do you deal with mobs?

Run away, hide.

Dealing with mobs is for the police.

>>31691154
If they're close enough to throw heavy rocks at you, they're close enough to close with and kill or chase away.

>>31691383
Well, I mean anything gang/crime related. I like the stuff that's not too serious and a bit interesting. I don't know much of the southern/crunk stuff but some of it's alright, although I couldn't listen to a full album of it.

>>31691047
you brought up stupid ass scenarios (involving unarmed, unarmoured mob of apes) as if nobody in the history of humanity had ever thought about or encountered them before... hence, strawmanning swordsmen from the past as brainless idiots who couldn't fight their way out of a wet cardboard box.

>>31691522

Alright man get one of your buddies (if you have any) to hurl fucking bricks at your face while you "close in and kill" and see what the fuck happens. Post pics of your broken nose and knocked out teeth

>>31691581
lolol... yes. that's why mobs of brick throwers defeated all the european armies of the middle ages mirite?

Fucking genius tactician you are.

>>31691567

Dude I hate to tell you but nobody in the history of humanity has ever killed a large mob of attackers by themselves with a single sword. The closest I can think of is that viking that killed all those dudes on that bridge, but that was because the bridge forced them to fight him one on one.

Life isn't an anime, when you are surrounded by a lot of people even if you have guns it is unlikely that you will survive. One man with a sword literally cannot just swing it around in circles and cleave crowds in half like they do in the cartoons my dude.

>>31691614

Armies are not one unarmored guy with a big sword ya dingus.

>>31691522
You can close 30 feet in eight different directions at once, as me and my seven friends are stoning you to death? That's pretty damn cool. Are you a ninja?

>>31691651
Okay... shifting the goalposts... suddenly a 360 degree brick throwing gallery.

Anyways, 21 foot rule... you heard of it?

You can get off what 1-2 bricks at most? Not guaranteed to be lethal or incapacitating at all.

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>>31691651

He's deadlier than any ninja. He's a SOUL REAPER!

>>31691625
>>31691639
the historical record is 2-handed swords (zweihanders, spadone, montante) were constantly used on the Late Medieval/Renaissance battlefield... and specifically in situations where you could be surrounded by more numerous infantry... e.g. holding an HQ, bridge, breach point, escorting VIPs, etc. etc.

See doppelsoldners.

>>31691714
The fencing manuals from those times specifically illustrated scenarios just like what's put forward in the OP.

>>31691678

Have you ever been hit in the head with a brick thrown by somebody who is intentionally trying to hurt you? Not incapacitating at all. Alright. Again, have a buddy bean you in the fucking head with a brick and tell me it's not incapacitating.

And yeah man, 360 degrees is right. Do you think an angry mob is going to just wait around and attack you one by one like it's a fucking jackie chan movie?

>>31691714

Doppelsoldners were not one guy with a sword who trained in his backyard from youtube videos with no armor. They were trained soldiers, armored, and fighting in groups. I cannot believe that you don't understand this.

>>31691735
You just keep on stretching the scenario to fit this parody of swordsmanship that you spun in your head.

Yes... I'm claiming you can both hold off a mob and kill a shitton of people until you collapsed from exhaustion as a trained user of the two-handed sword. This is precisely how it was used historically.

>>31691755
Lol.. do you think people suited up in full plate every time they wanted to drill with the sword??

You're sounding more and more idiotic to me.

>>31691678
>Okay... shifting the goalposts... suddenly a 360 degree brick throwing gallery.
Well, what the fuck do you think a mob is? Do you think they're going to form an orderly line so you can stab them one at a time? Fuck no. They're going to surround you at range. At best, you'd be able to charge one before you're incapacitated.

>Anyways, 21 foot rule... you heard of it?
I don't holster my bricks.

>>31691771

Do you think the warriors of old went into battle in a my little ponies t shirt and jeans, you fucking imbecile?

>>31691783
Then tell me how many bricks you can land with fight-ending precision and power at me before I charge you down.

>>31691784
The video I posted was just of a simple drilling exercise LOL... wtf are you smoking.. you want me to post VHS from a 16th century battlefield or something?? Keep stretching with your ridiculous line of attack.

>>31691801
I hope you're on a lot of meth when you are charging, because a brick hits like, well, a brick.

>>31691801

You're right man you'd probably cut the brick in half and charge me in a flash of white light, cleaving me in two effortlessly while the pink cherry blossoms swirl around us

And then the rest of the mob would be on top of you

>>31691818
You tried to say that they didn't wear armor every time they trained, I was pointing out that they sure as fuck did when they went to war. They also brought all their friends, and their archers, and their calvary, and their battle plans, and, you know, their actual for real training.

It's hilarious that you think *I'm* the one who looks ridiculous right now.

>>31691801
>Then tell me how many bricks you can land with fight-ending precision and power at me before I charge you down

Erm, well thats easy. One, the one that knocks you out your Mobilty Scooter, fatty.

>>31691801
>Then tell me how many bricks you can land with fight-ending precision and power at me before I charge you down.

Probably none. But as you cut me down, my buddies land a couple dozen, then pulp your skull for good measure.

>>31691818

It wasn't in reference to the video ya dip. It was in reference to the fact that that's what YOU would be wearing, unless you just walk around in chainmail all day every day.

Do you own armor?

>>31691851
>>31691861
Alright... now tell how many brickthrowers would have to be killed before they finally incapacitate the montante-wielder. Remember... it's kinda hard to run away and throw bricks at the same time.

You guys keep on underestimating the mindset of an aggressive, trained person.

You're not just static, sitting duck in one spot spinning around with a sword you doofuses.

>>31691859
ITP, Bill from Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

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>People falling for this (hopefully) bait.

>>31691894
You guys remember that video from latin america with a bunch of pistol-armed cops surrounding this whacko with a pocket knife and they get destroyed?

Now give that dude training and a huge ass sword...

>>31691894
do you own a sword poster?

>>31691882
No I don't.

I do HEMA. And I'm telling you guys... a person with a montante would fucking destroy in the scenario depicted in OP pic. People couldn't even run from you they're so tightly packed. It'd be a fucking bloodbath.

>>31691915
I had this clip on 3.5 diskette on my Amiga. I was blown back by the shitty quility, it had sound too. 1992!!!

>>31691951
>People couldn't even run from you they're so tightly packed.

How are you able to maneuver?

>>31691951

Alright well I guess you should just carry around that big fuck off sword as EDC then

>>31691964
I had two drives and a piece of hardware connected to my second drive so i could pirate games.

>>31691968
sigh... more nitpicking. So now you presuppose that you're packed in like a sardine with the sword on your shoulder? You win. Happy?

>>31691964
im thinking of the 970, was it 4.5?

>>31691969
The entire thread is a stupid mental exercise. I'm just putting forward some novel food for thought.

I dunno... maybe deploy hemafags wielding montantes and ballistic armor instead of cops in riot gear, next time the dindus riot. The first dude that gets his arm lopped off would hit 10 million views on youtube.

>>31691998
>So now you presuppose that you're packed in like a sardine with the sword on your shoulder?

No, I'm pretty sure that's the scenario you were just painting. Except you had the ability to phase-shift through the crowd, or something.

use bean bags you weeb

>>31688462
Looks like good exercise desu, thats about it

>>31692033

>Nutting personnel, kid

>>31692024
Riot cops with birdshot/rubber shells/plastic beads would still be more effective, and they don't even have to really kill anybody.

Honestly the best method for crowd control/mob defense in my mind would be a saiga 12 for ammo capacity loaded with birdshot or dragons breath.

>>31692043
For sitting on? i don't get it?

>>31692033
Ok... if you really want an answer.

I'd half-sword the montante and stab and pommel strike and clothesline like a mad kayaker to clear up enough space to flow the sword and rev up the momentum. Then, it's stampede or die for the mob.

>>31688462
Guarding a lady


Holy shit

>>31692170
Yup... straight from the historical manual.

Some more references:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mma9plcVXHk

so easy even a little girl could pull it off more or less...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9y4h4Fp4I

>>31692205

My man, anybody can swing the shit around, you have to actually be fit enough for it to cut through. Blades aren't lightsabers.

>>31692220
You don't have to be abnormally strong to cut effectively at all. It's 80% technique.

And two-handed swords have way more cutting power due to their mass and length over the longswords you typically see used in test cutting demonstrations.

>>31688143
Where'd you order yours from? I need these for science and/or horribly cruel pranks

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>>31685323
Run and hide, or have a good AA-12 or Vepr with drum mags, a HMG, an automatic grenade launcher or a flamethrower on hand.

Unfortunately, laws forbid some of these choices even in the most progun states.

But don't underestimate one factor, they're not trained and motivated soldiers, they're niggers or their local equivalent. If they see 5-6 of them dying with large, dirty buckshot wounds and if possibe a couple dindus with an arm or leg ripped off, it will scare the mass and they may well run away.

>>31689076
>won't get swarmed from multiple directions
Yes you fucking will. Crowds tend to scatter when guns start going off. Some fat greasy neckbeard awkwardly swinging a reproduction Greatsword around is going to get tackled and culturally enriched faster than you can ask for tendies.

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>>31688143
I can legally buy some?!!
Why thank you anon!

>>31688143
>cs
What the fuck?

>Detroit
Oh that's reasonable then

This nigga here knows that bones are a thing, right? People aren't just fluid or pulp surrounded by a hard outer shell like those gallon jugs and watermelons you practice on in your backyard. Skin, fat, and muscle are going to severely limit your abilities and fatigue you much quicker than a milk jug, and that's assuming you manage to make good contact with the blade and don't get stuck on bones.

>inb4 skeletons don't real

>>31687497
...and a well placed machine gun

>>31693605
To which nigger do you refer?

>>31693605
I was thinking of Maces for that reason, all i can think of is that it would put them out of fight with less fatal wounds, and swinging it around sounds like a good way to fend off a group (and also a great way to get tired).

>>31693696
The sword nigger trying to validate his choice over firearms, then when people tell him facts and ask why he's being a retard, he accuses them of moving goalposts. I know he's just trolling and we're taking the bait, but people actually believe this.

>>31692246
t. someone who has never used a sword to kill a man

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>>31693671
And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind it.

To get on topic, the name of the game here is shoot whoever said acting out the most first and foremost once. Let him bleed out, don't put 3 shots in him. This let's them know anyone stepping towards you is going to get hurt, and his screaming will reinforce this. Next, anyone that gets too close or makes a move towards you do the same. Always keep ammo in your weapon, back up slowly, and break them into individual thinking.
If you have a second mag, change to it even after a few shots if you are far enough away, this will show you have more than the standard 15 rounds. If you have a second gun, brandish it.
This is all assuming they keep coming after you after you initially brandish your weapon.

>>31685323
In the US you can legally argue that the disinhibition of responsibility of people in a mob makes them individually more prone to violence and lack kf restraint at that the mob as a whole constitutes an individual instance of threat even if the majority never take action, the whole enables the individual. You are also allowed to asses the capacity of violence from all members of the mob even if you defend against one.

Once you are down even six unarmed women pose a nassive threat to a lone individual. Mobs are by their structure a lethal threat. Go read Massad Ayoob.

>>31685323
First and foremost is situational awareness, if there are a bunch of people getting rowdy in the streets, especially associated with a protest, leave before it gets out of hand. Failing this you need a gun with as large a mag as you can get. Ideally you want a carbine but if you're out and about you've probably got a g17 at best. They'll probably scatter like cockroaches once the shooting starts. You probably can't shoot ALL of them, but as long as you've got bullets you could shoot ANY of them. Thats usually enough to turn people around. If that doesn't work you at least get the satisfaction of knowing you took as many of them with you as you could and your kd is better than most.

>>31688821
shiet senpai I remember watching that on tv. Made me cringe, but honestly you'd probably have to do that to avoid being killed.

https://youtu.be/9p4eyZL7Deg

>>31688913
Lawsuit, if you fire a wad of metal at speed you are legally bound with intent to kill regards of your choice of target or vackstop.

>>31685841
Typically a mob of people won't just charge into gunfire. If you've got a pistol with >10 rds you can probably shoot your way out. Once you shoot a couple the rest turn and run. Just look at that jackass memester who went to the BLM protest last year. He turned away a whole pack of screaming niggers with a 1911, I don't even think he kille anyone.

>>31686987
Mobs don't just appear. They usually form during protests or after major sporting events. If it looks like a riot is about to start, leave before it does.

>>31692205
This is just for show, any of her opponents could hit that girl when she's facing back

>>31691522
Yeah, you close on one, and get brained with an empty bottle of king cobra by another, gg.

>>31691771
We're not talking about a drill you stupid fuck, nobody is chucking bricks at your head during a drill.>>31691783

>>31691801
>fight ending power precision
I don't need to drop you, just throw you off balance so that 6-8 of my friends can bum rush you.

>>31693982
>Made me cringe

You fucking weakling.

>>31693990
I carry 6 extra mags just for this scenario. I don't want the rest to turn and run. I want them to die and stay dead.

We have a responsibility to our nation and to future generations you know.

>>31690881
Wuts that from?

>>31693989
Just fire a blank then, the rest of the magazine can be loaded with live rounds.

>>31691409
>defending one's self is for the police
Just spread your pooper, the police will save you

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Even after shots are firing, they are still running towards you.

Muslims would do the same.

This is a good example of warning shots not working.

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>>31693990
>typically
Relying on warning shots is a moron's tactic

>>31690773
If it's a real sword and extremely sharp you could reasonably cut through with limbs with little enough resistance to keep swinging. I think you underestimate just how cleanly and easily a sword can cut through people.

Can someone post a link to the video from the op. I am going to the gym soon and being enraged with nogs helps me get a better pump

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>>31694484
We got this one. Different chick, same circumstance. Islam is your friend.

>>31694492
>groping is rape when muslims do it
If this was a bunch of white guys on spring break you'd be calling all the women sluts right now.

It's still bad, but you fucks are just full of shit, and use this crap to justify your hatred against all muslims.

>>31685323
Join the mob.
Rise up in ranks until you become the boss by any means necessary.
Rule over your family.

>>31688796
>doubting nipponese steel foldeded 1000 times
https://youtu.be/k8qQZLtIuiA

The Nodachi is actually absurd.

>>31694551

>cold steel

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>>31685654
What if Africa comes to you?

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>>31691154
Kebab begs to differ

>>31686626

Lost his pilot light for a second there.

>>31685702
Dark Tower?

>>31694585
Has "Kebab" jumped into real life usage now?

>>31690857
In real life people don't take turns to attack you like in video games.

>>31694596
I noticed that too. I wonder if that happened often when those things were still in use.

>>31691915

If that dunecoon had been a real swordsman, he'd have cut the bullet in half. Duh.

>>31688857
They thought she was an iserali spy al they did was finger allegedly the cops did fuck all a grouo of women went in and saved her dunno what really happpened

Wander how she would have been treted in mardi gras on spring break lol

>>31694522

Hit a nerve there, Ahmed?

>>31691225
God i hate hipster faggot like you and the cunts that live in that area
Am happy you are now dead

>>31694611
He owns a literal kebab shop.

>>31694628
lol indeed ahmed

you did the same to the Egyptian women during the riots

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>>31690989
garbage

>>31694661
What filthy Muslims do in their countries are no one else concern. They are Muslim. They do what they naturally do.


Anyone who goes to a filthy Muslim hell hole unarmed deserves what comes to them.
Anyone who brings Muslims into their countries deserves what happens to them.

>>31691154
>you cannot win a fight against an entire crowd of people with a sword. If you're lucky they'll stay away. If you're unlucky then someone will throw a large object at your back and you'll get in the head with a 2x4 as you falter

there is period advice on what to do but ofc it alld epends on a whole array of factors... "winning" here means detering them enough for you to flee into a building as you retreat or until reinforcements come.

Take off your belt, wrap the free end around your hand and start swinging the buckle. Aim for the faces.

I'd just avoid them if you could. Sometimes easier said than done, especially in backwards countries where the fatwa of the day is "women over the height of 4'9" and unmarried girls over the age of 12."

It's just like trying to drive through a protest on a highway when you only have 2 wheel drive.

>>31687687
>A mob
>With a pistol

>>31694522
>If this was a bunch of white guys on spring break

but its not and I dare you nigger document an example like this perpetrated by "white guys" - it doesn't happen.

>It's still bad,

thx for aknowledging. cunt.

>but you fucks are just full of shit, and use this crap to justify your hatred against all muslims.

this crap? you mean savage behaviour? ofc we use it, what else would we use? I judge people based on their character, behaviour etc. and in 9 out of 10 cases muslims are rotten to the core:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/15/15-year-old-boy-was-stabbed-to-death-by-migrant-because-he-was-protecting-young-girl-from-sex-assault/

I was personally almost murdered by 3 30 something chechen men with butcher knives when I was in my early 20s for threatning to call the police on one of them beating what I presumed was his daughter.

>>31694672
Europe should not be a muslim country.

>>31694716
You are arguing with a Muslim.
Who is the real idiot here, him or you, the man dumb enough to engage a Muslim in arguement?

>>31694699

Shoot the first few right in the balls and the rest will have second thoughts.

>>31694699
Not that anon but would you want to be the first person to attack a guy with a pistol pointed at you? Would you press the attack if six of your homies were shot?

>>31694730
>You are arguing with a Muslim.
>Who is the real idiot here, him or you, the man dumb enough to engage a Muslim in arguement?

there are people reading who are unsure about sandniggers and may be swayed by arguments yet.

>>31694743
>sandniggers
You're part of the problem sir.

>>31694596
Doesn't use a pilot light. There're five pyrotechnic cartridge in the nozzle that has to be lit one at a time by the forward trigger.

>>31694749
>You're part of the problem sir.
aha. how s`?

>>31685323

Step 1: don't get into a situation where you can become the target of a mob. Not hard unless you enjoy traveling to the third world or - if walking through your home town - you have the situational awareness of a potato.
Failing step 1, get right the fuck out.
Failing that, try not to do stupid shit like pulling your CCW, which will raise your chances of getting killed by an order of magnitude (see: David Howes and Derek Wood).

>>31694631
You tell me, Chad.

>>31694646
I can buy Muslims?!

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>>31685323

Jesus, not even one "Waste the motherfuckers!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPGyt3ZDv2Y

>>31694782

This. I can't recall who david howes or derek wood is but I recently saw a video of some poor fool who wanted to be a hero and stop a guy from shooting up a walmart, only to get shot in the back and killed by the guy's fucking girlfriend.

heart was in the right place but fucking hell man, shoulda just left.

>>31694782
>>31694782
>Step 1: don't get into a situation where you can become the target of a mob. Not hard unless you enjoy traveling to the third world or - if walking through your home town - you have the situational awareness of a potato.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29256443

You guys do realize that life isn't a video game right ?

Those people have families and friends, hopes and dreams and a billion reasons not to rush at someone pointing a gun at them.

>>31694716
>my cherry-picked anecdotes prove that ALL of them are bad

>>31694730
Also
>le anyone I am arguing with is a muslim meme
/pol/ you are so easy to spot.

>>31694805
They chose to go there. Its their problem. A better idea would have been to simply close African airways and any Westerner who travels there (usually to impress their friends with their "worldliness") gets left there as well.

Ebola would have taken care of itself.

>>31694824

Mob mentality and getting worked up can make people do really stupid things anon.

>>31694427
>warning shots
He never said that.

>>31694800

That's different. Most active shooters don't have accomplices, and if they do, they don't have the presence of mind to actually stand back to cover the first guy if need be. Often just engaging the shooter is enough to make him bitch out. Remember, if they wanted to have a shootout, they would have stormed a police department, not a mall.
Whereas if you're facing an angry mob (a real, violent and determined one, not a bunch of hipsters blocking the road) and can't escape, there's no scenario where drawing a gun helps you in any way whatsoever.

>>31685323
Find a roof and some Koreans.

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>>31694824
Anyone in a mob is not operating on the same level as a human being.

As soon as a mob forms you are no longer dealing with functional humans you can reason with. You are dealing with blindly instinctive animals who would gladly rush you, kill everyone they encounter, and rape anything they encounter. They are essentially zombies. Treat them as such.

>>31694836

I agree there, best solution is to get the fuck out. I mean if you're on foot you should be able to hear them coming and figure the best course of action in getting the fuck outta there.

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>>31694836
>a gun helps you in any way whatsoever.
A handgun doesn't help (handguns are last results in ALL situations, not just mob rush scenarios)

Any other platform does. Handguns are a last resort and usually a sign you are going to die at the hands of whatever threat you are facing.

>>31694826
>>my cherry-picked anecdotes prove that ALL of them are bad

they are not cherry picked anecdotes. in my country for example 30% of violent crime is comited by chechens and every stabbing in the last year, without exception, was done by a muslim. and these trends are the same for the rest of the EU too.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_rNT3k2ZXB-f9z-2nSFMIBQKXCs&hl=en_US

Violence of Action.

When everyone bearing down on you is a legit target, showing a complete lack of hesitation to kill them is the safest option. It both ends the threats immediately in front of you, and robs the mob of the traits that embolden them.

>>31685323
If you do have to open fire on a large group of people (and cannot evade), for "self-defense" (or defense of another) to be used as a legal justification for your actions, you must 1) own your firearm legally, have a license to carry, and have it registered; 2) not have incited the people's rage (with intent to cause riot); 3) be physically unable to evade safely; 4) have had your life or the life of another person present seriously threatened OR have had your body or the body of another person present touched aggressively (with intent to harm); and 5) only inflict force on that/those individual(s) that have seriously threatened you or another person present OR those that have touched you or another person present aggressively (with intent to harm).

Basically, opening fire is a last resort. Obviously you won't be going through this checklist in your head when you're in a situation like this, but the jist is, don't just open fire on a crowd of people, only use direct force if you really, really have to, and only on those that have used direct force on you (or those that intend to). You're gonna have a tough time in court otherwise.

>>31694832
>Ebola would have taken care of itself.

yeah, when did quarantine cease to be the default way to deal with an outbreak?

>>31694866
>in the last year,
in the last 10 years. let that sink in.

>>31694840
People still have individuality within a mob, they just get really violent and think they're untouchable.

But they're still smart enough to recognize that a gun is a danger, nobody in the mob is ready to die so they'll just calm down or panic. If they don't understand you just shoot somewhere nobody's likely to get hit.

Also I think it goes without saying but getting surrounded is still a bad idea.

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>>31694877
>Violence of Action.

yepp. once you shoot the nearest attacer in the ehad and send a cloud of pinkish brain mist flying in the faces of the rest they'll get the idea.

>>31694860

If you're carrying anything other than a handgun, then you aren't alone, or minding your own business.

Unless you're some kind of autist who OCs a long gun in public, which (while it might help you from being picked on by a crowd that is looking for someone isolated to scare and rough up) if push comes to shove, will get you killed all the same, because you aren't Punisher or some shit, and will probably get unceremoniously shot in the back with a hi-point while you're posturing.

>>31694934
That's what you'd hope. But not necessarily what would happen.

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How would people react to a chainsword? It's reasonably feasible to build one now, my rough estimations are I can fit about 4kw in maybe 4kg. I looked around the internet but no one has built a proper functional one. Converting a chainsaw won't work the entire thing has to be custom made.

>>31694957
you'll need to specify who you think would not get the massage? because there are mobs and then there are mobs...

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>>31694977
Post like these are why we need to bully fat kids more often.

Yeah, walking around with a chain saw in the midst of an African or middle east riot would totally not end in you getting curb stomped into the pavement. Oh wait, yes it would.

>>31694522

>implying anyone needs to justify their hated against all muslims

Muslims don't even like Muslims, you pigfucker.

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>>31694987
Any 3rd world riot.

>>31694977

I hate to break it to you but a chainsaw is a bad weapon, it's noisy, cumbersome, and it's gonna bring everyone down on you, who will throw everything they can at your dumb head

And this is coming from someone who likes chainswords, but that shit ain't practical at all

>>31695009

Shit man I thought that was a resident evil 5 screenshot for a sec

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>>31685323
Pre-/wwe/ /asp/ie here. I'm a concealed-carrying martial artist (wrestling, judo, BJJ, TKD, FMA) who has fought in mass melees in battle games such as Dagorhir and SCA--they may look like stupid nerd LARPs, but, if you get with a group that trains seriously, they give you a good enough understanding of unit and field tactics for shield and baton that you can't watch most riot cops without cringing.

When I last fought in Dagorhir, I was probably at a skill level 4 on a scale of 5. Dagorhir is essentially army dodgeball with sticks, except light or grazing shots don't count and grappling is permitted. The largest number of opponents focused entirely on me that I was ever able to defeat at once was seven--that may sound like a lot, but it won't after I break down my strategy. I've seen people do better than that.

Barring CS gas and other riot control agents (>>31688143 is my new hero, btw, I'm shopping for those now), the best martial art to use against a mob is parkour and superior cardio. Someone was knocking Jackie Chan earlier, but how he fights groups is a pretty realistic approach: he runs the fuck away and puts obstacles between them until he can fight them one at a time, using choke points, terrain, and improvised weapons to his advantage.

You need to be able to out-maneuver the crowd and either create space or utilize chokepoints. If you can escape entirely, congratulations, you just won the encounter. Otherwise, if you can negate the numerical advantage by using terrain and superior cardio (like our buddy Jackie Chan or the aforementioned viking slaying bodies onnnabridge), you stand a chance for as long as you can negate the numerical advantage: the second you fuck that up even a tiny bit, you're done.

The concept of negating numerical advantages with terrain is probably not new to anyone here, so I'll skip to talking about creating space. The best ways I've found to do this are intimidation and having superior cardio and footwork.

(1/2)

>>31685323
See: saigamarine

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>>31695031
(2/2)

Intimidation is a hard thing to teach via Serbian stamp-collecting forum, but the gist is that you need to be competently trained and confident. Violence is born of power discrepancies, and there is a power discrepancy in the mob's favor due to numbers: if you can convince them that despite you being outnumbered, they are outmatched, or that at least a good number of them are going to get fucked up hardcore (and/or shot), they are going to falter and no longer be confident in taking you as an easy target.

Creating space via superior cardio is also straightforward as a general concept (but something that you have to train, you fat, lazy neckbeards). If you run away, you will only have to fight the fastest runner--suddenly switch from running away to running towards your fastest assailant, and you have closed the gap before he can react. This, of course, doesn't work if you don't keep in very good shape.

Using footwork to create space generally includes making your opponents get in the way of eachother and moving fast enough that if you get surrounded, the guy behind you is as scared to touch you as the guy in front of you. This, of course, doesn't work if you don't keep from getting bricked in the back of the head. Protip: you won't, this is more of a small group strategy than a mob strategy.

Also, when you put someone down in a melee, they stop becoming an immediate threat, so move away and focus on putting the next guy on the ground (unless you legitimately have time to make sure he's not getting back up, though I'd still probably use that time to run away). As their bodies and spirits break, they get easier to fight and start tripping up, slowing down, and demoralizing their comrades.

tl;dr: train parkour, learn to fight, carry a gun, keep CS gas in your vehicle's riot control kit, and don't get caught in a riot, you fucking dumb shit

>>31694908
>If they don't understand you just shoot somewhere nobody's likely to get hit.
That's illegally brandishing and recklessly discharging a firearm, as well as broadcasting that you don't actually have the balls to shoot anyone. Enjoy getting raped by the mob and by the law thereafter.

>>31691760
You'll eliminate yourself from the genepool soon enough. For that, I am glad.

>>31695031
>>31695053

>someone else that does SCA
>good sound advice

Oh fug what's up brother.

>>31695076
What would you do then ?

>>31695113

Get the fuck out of the way and avoid the damn mob, or shoot the motherfuckers and show you mean business and pray they back off.

>>31695113
If my life were sufficiently in danger that I was justified in drawing my pistol, I would shoot somewhere somebody's likely to get hit.

>>31695125
That didn't work last time some /k/ommandos enraged a mob of niggers.

>>31695090
Vivat, /k/omrade, checking in from Æthelmearc.

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>>31691951
>I do HEMA.
no you dont or mabe you do because 99% of hemashits are idiots too. in a packed situation like that a montante is useless, you have no ability to use the wide room covering swings.

>>31691894
I'm having trouble picturing a fat NEET being aggressive or trained enough to cut down anyone with a two-handed sword. Do you know how strong you have to be to even put a gash in someone? Plus, two-handed swords are fucking retarded to use in a mob. If you were to use any sort of sword, you'd want it to be shorter, or maybe just a long knife or a machete. That way you can quickly incapacitate someone and run, AND take the sword with you, instead of heaving your stupid montante or whatever up from wherever you kept it (seriously, where?!), striking someone in the side and pissing them or their friends off, and then having to drop your fifty-pound sword to be able to run away.

>>31695125
So shooting the ground is illegal but shooting at someone is ok ?
And someone whose brother/friend/etc just died will run away without any second thought ?
But just shooting a wall or something won't be enough ?

>>31695140

An Tir rookie here. I've only been doing it for a few weeks but I have a great group to train with. They're like brothers to me.

They've been helping me make a suit of suit of barrel armor because I'm poor, but hey, I'll have my own armor and our leader said he'll totally help me make a tabard for my outfit.

Practicing with stick and shield is fucking rad

>>31695013
>I hate to break it to you but a chainsaw is a bad weapon, it's noisy, cumbersome, and it's gonna bring everyone down on you, who will throw everything they can at your dumb head
>And this is coming from someone who likes chainswords, but that shit ain't practical at all

You have to build it very differently to a chainsaw. A brushless DC motor combined with very low rotational mass, a lightweight chain designed to survive impacts with abrasive diamond cutters instead of sharp teeth. Diamond cutting wire might be more suited than a normal chain. It would only spin up briefly just before you cut but at a much higher velocity than chainsaws.

It would be like a club or mace that can momentarily turn into a powerful cutting device and still cuts even when close enough to grapple.

>>31695162
>So shooting the ground is illegal but shooting at someone is ok ?
Yes, so long as you life is in legitimate danger. Shooting at the ground endangers people you weren't shooting at and demonstrates to the court that your life wasn't in enough danger to warrant discharging your firearm.

>And someone whose brother/friend/etc just died will run away without any second thought ?
They will either get caught up in grief or run away, like at Kent State, or charge straight at you in a blind rage that makes them an easy next target.

>But just shooting a wall or something won't be enough ?
No. It shows you're afraid of violence, that you won't have what it takes to kill another human being when push comes to shove. It makes you more of a target than you were before, unless you're dealing with soft college students instead of inner-city or third-world folks used to a hard life.

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>>31695171
>They've been helping me make a suit of suit of barrel armor because I'm poor
>Practicing with stick and shield is fucking rad
These are good skills to have when you are armorer and drill instructor for your rag-tag battalion in the Happening.

>>31695232

I genuinely didn't even think of it that way but yeah, this will come in handy.

I need to work on my technique though, but I'm enjoying all of this so much that I'm sure I can get the hang of it. I'm shocked I bumped into an SCA goer here, last time I brought it up I triggered someone.

>>31694076
Rome, TV series

>>31695195
>>31694977

40k fags please kys.

>>31685323
Fire
Fire and insanity
The two things people fear beyond measure

>>31695551

>most mobs are already insane
>and frequently use firebombs during riots

oh fug.

>>31695560
You have to become the mob to beat the mob

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>>31695255
>I genuinely didn't even think of it that way but yeah, this will come in handy.
By joining the SCA, you have signed your name on a watchlist: you are part of a militant organization that trains unit and field tactics, studies self-sufficient off-grid survival skills, and swears fealty to a political entity other than the Federal government.

>I need to work on my technique though
Always and forever. The best fighters I know are still working on their technique.

>I'm shocked I bumped into an SCA goer here, last time I brought it up I triggered someone.
"I personally do not believe in 'style'. Because of 'styles', people are separated." Fuck anyone who discourages you from cross-training, unless it's something that's going to get you legitimately injured, and even than be cautious: Dag fighters like to talk about how dangerous SCA is because of rattan being swung hard enough to dent 14ga steel helms, but SCA actually has a safer ruleset. Even bullshit arts usually have a worthwhile trick or concept to teach you if you're able to keep from drinking the koolaid.

Related inspo remix, I listen to this on a loop while pushing through cardio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN5wemX-8zY

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>>31695586

I triggered them because they immediately discarded as medieval LARPing shit, the topic itself was discussion on getting some batons/riot sticks for home use. Oh well.

And yeah, I believe the lessons I take from this will come in handy, if all else I'll get good at fighting with a stick, and those are pretty easy to find almost literally everywhere. Just wanna let you know you made my weekend though, bro. Stay safe and keep on practicing, and I'll make sure to do the same

>>31690478
Morrison pls go

>>31693605
>>31693812
t. people who have never done test cutting before with any sword let alone a two-handed sword

yes bones... did you know living bone is easier to cut then dead bone? The Japanese actually used green bamboo as a test cutting medium to simulate living bone.

HEMA practitioners actually try this stuff out.

>>31694620
lol... you keep on talking about "real life", but fencing systems were developed and refined over hundreds of years of actual combat between intelligent, trained, organized teams of fighting men not just angry mobs.

>>31695154
Just a mess of misconceptions here... cutting is technique technique technique. A montante weighs 6-7 lbs... it's lighter than most rifles. The reach of the montante is critical to keeping you from getting mobbed and its ability to cut powerfully from moulinet momentum alone (unlike say longswords or sabers) means there's no downtime. People are not going to brush off even glancing blow from a montante I guarantee you that. You have to close to grappling distance to kill somebody with a knife or machete and that's suicide.

>>31694357
Then when you are attacked and you need to draw to kill as quickly as possible, your first round is completely useless :^]

>>31686038
I'm going to dust off my D&D book now, it's the one in this pic. such good memories

>>31695624
If you really want to git gud with a stick IRL, I would suggest cross-training outside of the SCA. The SCA prohibits grappling, aggressive shield work, strikes from an inch above the knee and down, and engaging an opponent who hasn't acknowledged you--these are unrealistic constraints put into place for safety reasons.

Dagorhir prohibits head and neck shots, though you still have to protect your head from projectiles. However, it allows lower-leg shots, grappling, and aggressive shieldwork: aggressive shield work and grappling are what got me through the seven aforementioned opponents chasing after me.

The Tuchux are an offshoot of the SCA with a much looser ruleset. The whole body is a fair target area, grappling is permitted, aggressive shieldwork is permitted, and unarmed strikes are permitted. They wear less armor and don't swing their sticks as hard at their own events, to avoid hurting each other under the more liberal ruleset, but have to amp things up a bit when they go to the SCA so people will take their hits there--for this reason (and the fact that most Tuchux seem to keep in good shape and train seriously), they have a reputation of being excessively violent at SCA events.

The Filipino Martial Arts should be your go-to source for fucking people up with modern melee weapons, and a good school will encourage you to cross train in other striking and grappling arts. FMA does a lot with sticks, machetes, knives, and other blunt, edged, or flexible weapons and generally teaches excellent footwork.

Krav Magoo is MMA weapons LARP for people who want a crash course on self defense without being actual martial artists. Don't spend more than 6 months studying it, or you might accidentally buy into the hype and get yourself shot/stabbed/laughed at.

Enjoy your weekend, /k/omrade. Train hard, train smart, and stay safe.

>>31695953
>>31694357
>fires a blank without a blank adapter
>not enough recoil to cycle
>forgets to rack next round
>fires on empty chamber
>gang raped by angry SJWs

>>31694782
and if you're in a truck, dont fucking stop. pedal to the metal. see: reginald denny

>>31695009
dat vuvuzela in his pocket

>>31685323
I recently had to deal with a small mob making a scene pretty damn unsafe. Watched PD clothesline a guy, as well as I had to run over and yank another off of a FireFighter and pinned him to the ground until PD could zip tie him.

It literally happened out of no where. This guy committed suicide in his home, PD showed up first and were just kind of standing around when us and Fire pulled up. And once we entered the residence we heard all sorts of yelling outside. As we were trying to leave suddenly bottles of 40s and other glass shit were flying at us and PD had their guns out trying to form some sort of a perimeter while fighting off the occasional runner.

>>31696065
And yes before you ask, they were melanin enriched gentlemen. I still don't know what the fuck their problem was. No one came rolling in guns blazing, the family was unharmed. Hell, the Sgt on scene was hugging the mom to help calm her down. They just chimped out for no fucking reason.

Haven't seen anything in the local paper yet. So who knows.

>>31695196
>They will either get caught up in grief or run away, like at Kent State, or charge straight at you in a blind rage that makes them an easy next target.
You might get away with crippling/killing one person if it was self defense, but anything more than that is excessive and will cause you a fuckload of trouble, even if what you did was legal.

>No. It shows you're afraid of violence, that you won't have what it takes to kill another human being when push comes to shove. It makes you more of a target than you were before, unless you're dealing with soft college students instead of inner-city or third-world folks used to a hard life.

There's a difference between being afraid of violence and trying to intimidate. It's your job to look like you mean business and are ready to shoot. I don't know how it works in the US but in any north african country if you pull a gun on someone and shoot in the air they'll get scared, and if they don't gain anything from attacking you they probably won't, even if they outnumber you 100:1

>>31696102
>Be at COS Warrior 2011.
>Get indirect fire
>Ivory coast guards funnel into concrete "bunkers"
>Mortar lands and detonates at the entrance, explosion is funneled into bunker
>Dead and dying ivory coast guards
>American medics rush over to conduct life saving measures
>Ivory coast guards start rioting and bearing down on medics
>Get 2 platoons to hold them back while medics save the unlicky bastards
Still to this day I have no idea why those friggin monkeys were going crazy, we were trying to save their chicken bone sucking lives

>>31691355
I see you've never been to Key West.

>>31694833
Doing really stupid things can get you killed. Especially, when someone would rather live than die an apologist for others stupidity.

Arm the mob.

>>31688462
>witcher combat

>>31696194
>get called to a home for an unresponsive male
>non emergent with no Fire backup
>get there and its 3 black families living in a 3 bed 3 bath town home
>led to upstairs master bed room and see patient laying in his bed naked and obviously dead
>still warm, no rigor, eyes aren't cloudy yet, ask brother and son if they wants us to start CPR and he says he has a DNR somewhere but wants us to try
>good enough for us
>start CPR
>everyone but the brother and son start chimping out suddenly from downstairs
>10+
>partner trying to call our dispatch to get PD and Fire here as soon as possible while trying to get out equipment
>they're at the door, our only exit, yelling at us calling us every name in the book saying we're "defiling" him
>someone screamed bloody murder when we got the IO
>10 minutes of 2 man CPR while a fucking riot is breaking out less than 10ft away and we have nothing but our cardiac monitor and airway kit/mini med bag
>kept hearing someone say they're going to shoot us or burn the house down with us in it
>hear PD practically burst through the front door and start breaking up the crowd
>hear someone get tased, made me grin a little bit
>another 5 minutes of PD clearing people out in zip ties and hand cuffs before Fire can come in and help us
>sometime between leaving the scene and getting to the truck we get ROSC but he remains unresponsive
>at the hospital some of the family shows up like they didn't just try to murder 2 medics that were trying to save their "loved ones" life
>they decide to pull the plug on him because it costs too much to keep him alive
It's really hard not to hate people sometimes

>>31685323
Carry a man-sized handgun.
Carry two extra magazines.
Carry an 800 lumen minimum flashlight to blind them at night.
Mag dump into the crowd, focusing on anyone that advances.

>>31688891
And those are the people the USA backs in A-stan.
The taliban never tolerated that shit.

>>31696434
Witcher is garbage in terms of historical fencing.

>>31690636
Totally fake. That story sounds like a /pol/ wet dream. Debunking: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?117692-quot-The-Boston-Tribune-quot

>>31696447
>It's really hard not to hate people sometimes
>niggers
>people

wew lad.

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Anon, you are by yourself in a random European city and run across this.

How many could you take down with your current loadout?

They are going to rush you regardless.

And you WILL die regardless

>>31696617
I have 2k 223 and 2k 9mm at hand atm. so I guess all of them? and obviously I'd not be killed by them but my own police forces for being a racist islamophobe.

>>31691581
Well obviously you wear a helmet and your full suit of plate Everytime you step outside :^)

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>>31696648
>Well obviously you wear a helmet and your full suit of plate Everytime you step outside :^)

you were sayin'?

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Maybe Asia is nicer -Oh wait

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>>31696682
>Maybe Asia is nicer -Oh wait
sure whatever

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>>31696056
>is that a Vuvuzela in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

>>31688964
Swords are cool.

Katana wielding weeaboos and people that use swords in place of guns are retarded, but swords are cool.

>>31696447
I mean if he really had a DNR it may have been more aligned with his wishes to take him off life support rather than having shitty quality of life.

>>31695738
>but fencing systems were developed and refined over hundreds of years of actual combat between intelligent, trained, organized teams of fighting men not just angry mobs

Yet even then, the angry mob of 20+ people attacking all at once wins against le master epin swordsman, who nevertheless can't keep his eyes or hands on every threat in a 360° arc, and even if he could, he will still die like a bitch the moment someone has the idea to throw the first stone. Sucks, huh?

>>31685323
>buckets of kfc to throw as diversionary devices
>2 liters of grape soda to hold as a hostage
>flammen werfer
>suicide vest
>blackface mask (they'll never suspect a thing allowing you to escape)
>monster truck
>power armor

Just reasonable stuff ya know?

>>31696447
Were they actual Africans?

>>31696447
>DNR
>Attempts R
You're in the wrong here, sorry

>>31697101
The DNR wasn't present. One of the family members claimed he had a DNR and also said they wanted him to try CPR anyway. He's a first responder. First responders err on the side of resuscitate .

>>31695845
But where do you keep it?! Where do you keep your giant retarded fucking weaboo sword?!

>In Germistan
>Grandad served in WWII
>Has his old surplus
>Gang of "refugees" starts stabbing woman
>Yell "WILLKOMEN IN DEUTCHLAND" as I get out onto balcony
>Hose the Islamafags down with an MG-42
>Führer is pleased, continue D.A.K.

>>31697159
And where do you keep your 1000 rounds of 9mm all loaded into magazines, you dolt?? That's the point... it's a fucking make believe scenario.

>>31691251
/thread

>>31694522
Go die in a fire cuckster

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>>31697174
They will remember who fired at them. The ones who survived will come back with even more of their brothers.

>>31697185
I keep my magazine in my gun concealed beneath my clothes, where no one can see it. There's an extra mag in my locked glove box, plus a box of .45ACP. Being attacked by a mob is not too unreasonable of a situation, and it's important to strategize and think your way around different defensive situations to formulate a plan.

A normal person would think, "Well, I'd evade first, and hide or jump in my car, but if I had to, I'd open fire at those trying to harm me, while still retreating." But delusional people think, "Yeah, no, I'd swing at them with a Cold Steel brand long sword, get myself closer to the threat, while also being unable to maneuver smoothly or block any sort offensive attack. I'm a trained sword user, I've read all the old chivalry codes and sword tactics from 600 AD. I have over 100 hours of practise with a LARP boffer and watch Bleach. I am an expert. There's no way attacking 20+ people with a sword will not work. Oh did I mention I carry it on my shoulder?"

The only good part of your strategy is that you will be trampled to death (hopefully) before you reproduce and teach your kids the same shitty, suicidal tactic.

And you still haven't told me where you'd keep it.

>>31697463
more dumb strawmanning... do you people never get tired of this shit?

I'm not interested in hearing for the nth time about your Hollywood-addled preconceptions about historical combat.

>>31696890
ITT I learned thrown rocks were the secret weapons of the pre-gunpowder era

>>31694934
Gee, Achmed, how come your mom lets you have two AKs?

>>31694068
Hello, /pol/

>>31686626
>use flamethrower on a crowd that is charging at you
>now you have 10 niggas on fire running for dear life 5 meters infront of you
terrible idea in short ranges unless you are somehow impervious to fire yourself. longer range military grade flamethrowers would be 10/10 at crowd control though

>>31694551
God I love their videos. If I wanna watch a bunch of manchildren play with their SUPERBADASS SWORDS, this is my go to shit.

>>31689085
where is that webm?

>>31694883
>have a license to carry, and have it registered
Nigger what. Have you not heard of constitutional carry? And a majority of states don't have a registry.

>be physically unable to evade safely

What is stand your ground?

This post is garbage.

>>31696190
>You might get away with crippling/killing one person if it was self defense, but anything more than that is excessive and will cause you a fuckload of trouble, even if what you did was legal.
In the United States, you can only shoot when the situation is so dire as to require deadly force. The number of assailants is irrelevant: if twelve assailants are putting you in legitimate fear of your life with no escape, you are legally clear to shoot and kill them. The fuck load of trouble afterwards will be cleared up by lawyers and will be better than getting your ass stomped into a coma by a mob.

> I don't know how it works in the US
Shooting into the ground/air doesn't intimidate criminals here, they just see a soft civilian without the balls to aim at another human. If you're dealing with other soft people who are just amped up by the mob mentality, like college students, you'll probably scare the shit out of them, but if the looters were criminals before the riot, they'll just rush you, steal your gun, and kick your ass.

>>31694522
>Justify hating Muslims

If you ever lived as a non Muslim in a predominantly Muslim country you wouldn't like them either. They hate everyone. Even each other.

If it doesn't matter how many i kill....
Retreat through Alleys and chokepoints while using this.
https://youtu.be/0CrUARlmqso

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>>31700272
As similar as they may seem, niggers are not actually zombies. If you set a nigger or any other creature on fire they're gonna panic and stop attacking.

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>>31696697
>the guy that just walks by
lel

>>31685323
>drop a smokebomb at your feet
>drop a real bomb at your feet
>run like hell
>laugh until the cows come home

>>31691760
When they were used historically for that the wielded were covered head to toe in fucking plate armor better than the most equipped riot cops carry and their wielders were trained from a young age to do so, even then they sometimes failed

>>31689085
God dammit, I just want to live a peaceful existence in Southern Wisconsin, but Illinois gotta fuck up everything.

>>31691951
Ive never done hema admittedly but the first problem with.this that jumps to mind is that people don't actually die that easily from sword wounds (watch live leak vids of knife and machete deaths if you doubt me) even a lethal cut would leave them standing for 10-30 seconds while they swarmed

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>>31686626
As much as a boner the idea of a flamethrower is I would never use one under any circumstance. Got burned in a house fire when I was a child. Mostly my legs and it has healed over and left some ugly fucking scars and there is loss of sensation below the knees.

The most remote chance something would go wrong and I'd be engulfed in fire is absolutely fucking NOPE tier deal breaker for me. Not matter how much you hate your enemy fire is a fucking evil weapon to use against them.

>>31696473
No, the tali just like cutting off girls noses.

I guess that makes them the civilized Muslims.

>>31696764
That is awesome. Which riot?

>>31695140
I'm in the aethelmearc area too

>>31697101
unless the patient's doctor is holding the DNR form in front of your face, EMS always tries to R
otherwise we just let someone die for no reason
t. EMS

>>31688891
What's up with that kid's hand? Is that an infection? Doesn't look like dirt and there's no scar tissue.

>>31691859
Not that guy, but most foot soldiers didn't wear armor. If they did it was leather, wood, or shitty plate. They'd be lucky to have a decent sword.

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>>31694551
Is Lynn's warcry "die!"?

>>31695031
>>31695053
Y'know, I was arguing this with an anon in a gear thread about a month ago. I suggested that it would be better to remain undetected in the event of a happening and better to run in the face of a mob or force larger than your own. Ended with me being called a faggot after a while of discussion.

Glad there's someone who not only shares my theory but can confirm it with some experience.

Thanks.

>>31688964
No YOU kill yourself

This place used to be fun till autist fuckbags like you came here and took everything seriously and literally

This is why /k/ is the dumbest fucking board and the easiest to troll

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Of course!

>>31685323
bottle of burning gasoline, also buckshot, lots of buckshot..

>>31692069
Well im afraid dragon's breath may kill someone mate, birdshot/ rubber slugs are safer option.