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The Good Fight

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At what point, if any, would you take up arms against the government, or any entity otherwise?

Do any of you actually, truly believe that you would fight? Or do you have too much to lose?
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In a police state its good to be the police
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>>31658732
Really any thing we could do would just be Waco Two: Electric Boogaloo. We know we would loose and we could only do it as a statement. And uunless we have enough people for a full out civil war, then the winner will write history.
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>>31658732
The question is more what's to gain, will a single man screaming his one great bloody rebellion light the signal fire or will we watch the children burn from our dinner tables.

We let them corner the Dorner.
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>>31658732
>At what point, if any, would you take up arms against the government, or any entity otherwise?

when the price of not doing it outweights the cost of doing it. it's a simple cost benefit calculation.
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>>31658779
>We let them corner the Dorner.

dorner was a proto-BLM terrorist dude.
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>>31658789
I thought he just hated corrupt cali cops so bad he got tossed out and started purging dynasties.
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Everyone who's not a spineless coward has a line in the sand.

Would you, for example, stand idly by while your family is dragged off to a work camp? If you answer yes, then we all know what kind of person you are.

If you answer no, then we have somewhere to start. i doubt that your line is the same as mine, but I bet it's somewhere between long gun ban and mandatory book burnings. Mine is at long gun ban, which would happen long before any other type of gun ban.

Yes, I would physically resist with deadly force any attempts to confiscate my guns.

>inb4 edgelord
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>>31658813
Pretty much. Then the LA cops went ahead and proved his point by shooting at innocent bystanders, including two asian women in a completely different truck. They also tried to burn Dorner alive.
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>>31658732
Nobody has the balls to fight the system in any way, even far right fascists care more about votes and pretty online drama than fighting. Everyone seems to be complacent, not in mind but in action. The only ones fighting are golden dawn in Greece right now.
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>>31658813
>I thought he just hated corrupt cali cops so bad he got tossed out and started purging dynasties.


well maybe but he was also a black supremacist and blamed all that went wrong in his life on white racism. so he's pretty much a poster boy for BLM. he was a BLM dude before BLM was cool (enough for British and Skandinavian white people to organize BLM marches...).
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>>31658833
>They also tried to burn Dorner alive.
>tried
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>>31658829
You say that but don't you get it? Nobody 50 years ago would stand for the shackles we have today if they flung them on us in one go. They do it slowly, link by link building the chain.
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>>31658833
#JustCopThings
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>>31658850
I said tried because he shot himself before he burned to death. The cops definitely did light the cabin he was in on fire though.
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I have nothing to lose except mai raifu. So if they try to to take her away, y'know.
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>>31658857
I think there may be an idiom for that.....
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>>31658838
>Nobody has the balls to fight the system in any way
Because we still have bread and circus. Nobody except the dumbest of the dumb or the very lowest people in the lowest classes are willing to fight openly when things aren't horrible yet. Of course individual cases exist, but they accomplish nothing without popular support.
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>>31658857
And that's why you have to have a line, one that doesn't move. I told you mine, and I thank the NRA, the GOA, and the JPFO that the tide was turned in public opinion so it looks like that day is far away and my not come in my lifetime.
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Everyone who flies the yellow snake flag are pussies and now thanks to Amon Bundy even the feds know it. No most of these people who are scared of being called racists, would never risk themselves for something like that.
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>>31658732
The moment I decide to risk it all is the moment I dont have anything to lose. If and When shit hits the fan, there'll be no other option other than be a pussy. and I'll be damned If I become what I eat
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>>31658891
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg6MuFVugHwWCp1YDQDAy1w

you know this channel? this is a race and islam realist who shills for hillary and anti gun laws.
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>>31658872
Your line won't be crossed, and if it is will you really take up arms and fight a war against the system? Willing to kill those who stand in your way?
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>>31658857
>They
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>>31658872
>JPFO
Remind me again what that Goldman Sachs Rabbi has ever done, ever, not even for firearms has anyone ever even seen him with a gun?

You left faggots always try to put a kike face on freedom and its retarded. Fuck and your signalling.
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>>31658918
No and what the fuck does that have to do with anything. You're fucking retarded.
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>>31658732
>do you have too much to lose?
I have nothing to lose but my freedom
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>>31658870
Does it matter if their horrible yet? Or if they are on the path to being horrible. And I believe things are already horrible. Everyone will keep talking and waiting and saying they will once x happens but it never will. And you will die with shackles around you. And if not you, your children, whose lines will be far further back than yours. Just like your father's was, but he too changed. Forming to the system, that is the complacency that is deadly. And how the shackles form.
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>>31658963
I'm talking about the divide and concquer shilling outlets. going liberturdian just weakens the GOP thus strengthening the dems. and just disregard for a sec here that half the gop seem to be dems anyway.
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>>31658732

If she wins the election. Day 1 begins her assault against the Bill of Rights and the American people. We have a duty to overthrow tyranny, both domestic and abroad. Under her, in 4 years America is dead. That cannot be allowed to happen.
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>>31658732
women can do it, fuck society.
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>>31658927
Obviously, but once again. What good is this knowledge if nobody acts on it?
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>>31658982
The shackles can always be cast off. Well, for another hundred years at most.
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>>31658922
>and if it is will you really take up arms and fight a war against the system

yes
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>>31659045
Who would you target? What is your ideology?
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>>31659074
>Who would you target? What is your ideology?

Thats the problem innit? We aiint all John Kramer tier geniuses with infinite funds.
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>>31659003
>robot heads are of different heights
>don't bob at the same instant or same amount

COME ON

COME ON

JUST

COME ON
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Someone should compile a "list"...
Just in case, of course.
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>>31658732

I'd stand up and fight if they went after semi autos
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>>31659117
Thats the problem innit? We aiint all John Kramer tier geniuses with infinite funds.
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>>31659074
Light the fire, bear the torch, breed the monsters.
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>>31658732
Every man reaches a point where he must fight. Civil wars and rebellions happen faster and more easily than you might think. All it takes is the government to push a little too hard and then the war breaks out. Shoot into a group of rioters in Boston and the war begins.

Violence is normally a logical tit for tat, but once the government crosses a certain invisible threshold and given the right social/political circumstance, it would be full blown revolution.

You beat up women carrying food in Ireland and you have the IRA. You shoot a few people in independence square and you have a civil war. Etc. Etc.

Every government everywhere crosses that invisible threshold at one point or another. Waco was the invisible threshold, but the political climate wasn't enough for full scale revolution. Instead of trying to avoid this invisible line, they work to eliminate the potential powder keg instead.

Revolution will come to the US eventually as it must for every nation. It is only a matter of time.
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>>31659172
>Light the fire

Have we started the fire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36odfqA-Xqw
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>>31659186

nice post

fuck dem federals
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>>31659172
If I were to take action I would go to Europe like my friends and fight with golden dawn against the savages invading their lands. Why attack America where the system is strongest?
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>>31659186
>All it takes is the government to push a little too hard and then the war breaks out.


that only applies to controlled destablization of non aligned "shitholes" like Yugoslavia, Lybia, Syria etc. - if you arepart of the "west" you are safe from that. and by "you" I mean the ruling elites. look at the shit europeans and americans taking day in day out and nothing happening.
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>>31658732
Depends how you define taking arms against government

By bearing arms then yes, always, everytime, would be nice to see a huge group in Cali with open carries.
I bet that would fuck the police up big time

But do you mean like literally fighting against the government with deadly force?
Well, mostly when I have to shoot back
Or see that the government wants to throw me out of America because I am a freedom loving gun owner.

Then I would see that the government is clearly against me
And I would be clearly against them.
Right now it's still somewhat calm, but if I really see the Government going dipshit against me or my freedoms, then I would die for it
If you know what I mean
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>>31658846
he blamed everything on lesbians actually
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>>31659263
Read a book called the Turner diaries, audio book is on YouTube.
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>>31659202
It's always been burnin since the world's been turnin.
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>>31659326
>Turner diaries
ive heard of it. im not really sure if you endorse it here or if this is a veiled attempt to call me poltard.
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When they ban, require registration of, or set up a mandatory government buyback/seizure of a gun I own, I will not comply. From that day forward, I will be prepared for them to come for it. When they do, they've crossed my line, and I will make it as newsworthy as possible.

I don't own any automatic weapons. I don't own any grenade launchers or bombs. I do not own anything the Federal government currently restricts. I would only be interested in owning any of these if I were to follow the protocols required to get one. I am a law abiding gun owner - of the current state of Federal law, which I have to admit is fairly unobtrusive of my 2nd Amendment rights. If that law changes toward the more restrictive, then it is THEY who have chosen to classify me as no longer law-abiding, and pitched me down a slippery slope.

I won't fall for their "grandfathering in" provisions which require registration, either.

They can send out any law enforcement official they wish, and if that official is foolish enough and enough of a traitor to the Constitution to go with the "I was only following orders" defense, there will be conflict.

I support Blue Lives Matter. I am generally pro-military and pro-police. If they turn on me, however, whether due to executive fiat, judicial overreach, or legislative bureaucracy, I will defend my 2nd Amendment rights with every fiber of my being.

I hold no illusions that I will win against the superior strength of the government against an individual. No one can. I can only hope, and I suspect it is true, that there are enough like me that this will very rapidly devolve into a reconsideration by the government of their position or a forced reconstruction of said government.

In short, I want the right to peaceably own the firearms and ammunition that are currently permitted under Federal law. Any move to renegotiate, restructure, remove, or rescind that right will be met with the utmost resistance.
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>>31659347
you have good music taste brosef!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk
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>>31659326
>Turner Diaries

holy shit lmao

Gonna recommend some Matthew Bracken, maybe some John Ringo next?
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>>31659362
I am a polack, just read the book. Or go listen to the right stuff, they are complacent but could give you the general message that the government id already against you.
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>>31659363
>which I have to admit is fairly unobtrusive of my 2nd Amendment rights.

And this is why you loose.
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>>31659363
This.
ALL THIS.
DO NOT COMPLY
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>>31659387
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guns_of_the_South

have you read this?
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>The Good Fight
what the fuck even is this? It means nothing, just like your concept of good. That phrase is what made me shoot Three Dog in the back of the head with a .44 magnum every playthrough.
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>>31659363
Of course, this only applies in states that don't have more restrictive laws than the Federal government.

If I lived in California or New Jersey, or any number of restrictive metropolitan areas, I probably already would have made an ass of myself.

Take heed, the government first tries out their "progressive" ideals on those least likely to fight back. People like me take note of this, digest it, and vow not to allow it to happen in our backyard.
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>>31659382
No, before I start reading it could you tell me what its about?
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>>31659410
>immature child can't stop thinking of video games
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>>31659439
in the thread with an anime fox girl in the OP, alright kettle.
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>>31658732
Confirmation that the Dems had Scalia smothered to death and the murder covered up. I'm just waiting now, sempai.
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>>31659444
Keep being retarded.

I think you got lost to your own stupid AA12 thread.
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>>31659393
I disagree. Current Federal law is not particularly obtrusive. The few disagreements I have with Federal firearms statutes are not terribly significant, which is a tribute to those who have fought so hard to maintain those rights. State and local regulations may be a very different matter, depending on where you are.

I have no interest in automatic weapons, because they aren't all that useful. If I did want one, I can still get one but have to jump some hoops. I think suppressor regulations are stupid, but I still have a path to get one if I want. Outside of that, I really can't name any current Federal laws I take a lot of issue with - only the expansion of them.

If you disagree, name what it is you disagree with. Maybe we see eye to eye.
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>>31659445
They what?
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>>31659137
>I'd stand up and fight if they went after semi autos


why? why didn't you stand up when they went after selct fire guns? SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! What's so hard to understand about that? I as a german get the meaning of that phrase.
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>>31658732
I would threaten them and aim at them, warning shots etc. but I wouldn't kill any of them. Hopefully they would kill me.
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>>31659474
Exactly, the chain is placed slowly.
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>>31659445
>79 year old obese man
>HBP and heart issues
>too weak to undergo minor surgery
>has heart attack in his sleep after strenuous exercise

OMG he was murdered
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>>31659474
hmm probably because it happened 80 years ago
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>>31659464
>If you disagree, name what it is you disagree with. Maybe we see eye to eye.

well you don't seem to be concerned with the trickle down and boiling the frog slowly princliples. That aside, all those federal and state laws are unconstitutional and breaking the law so defending or even just ignoring them (because conveniently they don't inconvenience you at this very moment) is kinda stupid.
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>>31659483
>Hopefully they would kill me.
they would blast the shit out of you as soon they see a gun and likely even without ever seeing a gun.
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>>31659495
don't pretend you liberasts haven't been trying to blame helldog's declinging health on Putin poisoning her...
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I feel things could go two ways. Groups or individuals.

It would be nice to see people band together for mass none compliance. Not that I'm friends with any cops but I have rolled with a few (jui jitsu) and I would give them the shirt off my back anytime, anywhere. So I wouldn't want to see leo and civilians fight. If anything like a civil war were to happen I would hope law enforcement would be devided up enough to decide to only support state law. I would love to see this. I live in Oregon and we don't use NICs. Osp does the background checks and they seem to be great. I wish more states would be point of contact. Keep the FBI out of your business. To my knowledge Oregon fics sends info to the FBI but I feel the feds delay people to much for bullshit reasoning. All my experiences have been outstanding with the staters. I also live in a pro gun county and would trust my sheriff would never allow confiscation.

That's my line in the sand... confiscation. I think le is to devided to enforce it. I know my friends in the national guard have a great attitude. They have told me before if they ever got orders to confiscate they will lie and say no homes have guns.
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>>31658732
I'm just waiting on my fellow Americans.
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>Holo as the opening pic

Wow the FBI has really stepped up their game. Good work boys, how's the weather in Quantico?
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>>31659809
>I'm just waiting on my fellow Americans.
another reason why we loose. when everyone is just waiting, nothing ever gets done.
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>>31659925
>A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

How then is it that the Nazgul from the ATF ever came into existence?
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>>31659955
politicians being tough on crime created the ATF.
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>>31659991
>politicians being tough on crime created the ATF.

>it was real in my mind
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>>31660005
so where did the ATF spring forth from?

they had to do something to say they were going to be tough on crime, that's the normal line of bullshit when they create a useless agency to illegally tax and harass the population.
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>>31658732
THIS IS FBI

THEY'RE DATAMINING BECAUSE A CLINTON ASSASSIN GOT CAUGHT DOING 'WETWORK' ON SCALIA

THAT'S WHY THE MEDIA IS IN NORTH KOREA MODE!
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>>31660048
>so where did the ATF spring forth from?

they came from the idea to slowly and incrementally erode gun rights and illegally tax and harass the population.
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>>31659444
>Based Horo
>Fox

Oh just go suck your own dick, you weak livered offspring of a colostomy bag.
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>>31660048
>they had to do something to say they were going to be tough on crime,


I laughed so hard the ab workout gave me zizz tier abs.
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>>31658767
Loose
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>>31660306
just because someone offers you a handjob doesnt mean they dont intend to fuck you in hte ass dry without a reacharound.

thats basically the ATF , they acted like it was going ot be a handjob, and it turned into the most violent diabolic gay prison rape ever.
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>>31660357
>they acted like it was going ot be a handjob, and it turned into the most violent diabolic gay prison rape ever.

don't get the analogy because I want neither a handjob, blowjob, ass pounding or really anything from fat dudes cosplaying being operators in A-stan while they are labouring to take way the freedom to do the very same from regular people.
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>>31660306
not that I have any love for the ATF or DoJ, but the plea was obviously done so that he would assist in the investigation of the said felons
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>>31660492
exactly they are a bunch of molesters.
>pssst hey kid want a handjob? AHA! IT WAS ME, THE ATF ALL ALONG. YOURE GONNA GET RAPED.

>handjob=nfa items
>rape=rape.
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>>31660543
so the moral of the story is, if you comit crimes, go big and work with loads of wanted people so that if you ever get caught, you can trade being an informant for time off? yeah, sounds like obungler....
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>>31659444
>Holo
>Fox

Fuck off newfag
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Ausfag here.

If the government tries to filter porn from the internet, I'm not going to be very happy.
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>>31658732
>At what point, if any, would you take up arms against the government, or any entity otherwise?


Whenever I am freed from their enslavement via directed energy weapons.
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>>31661522
>Ausfag
What other than porn do you have to lose anyway?
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>>31659363

I agree with everything you've said except

>which I have to admit is fairly unobtrusive of my 2nd Amendment rights

They've already infringed our 2nd amendment rights, it's just about how much are we willing to let them take until we say no more. I say the status quo is the line imo.

good post anyway
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>>31662050
>I say the status quo is the line imo.

sadly, you'll say the same after the next incremental infringement etc. etc.

unless we go on the offencsive, burn down the ATF, repeal the NFA and AWB nothing will change and instead things will get only worse....
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