Thinking about buying a sword Are Cold Steel MAA swords like

Just for reference the Arming Sword pictured has a 28 inch blade and is nearly 35 inches in length where as the Hand and a Half Sword has a 33.5 inch blade and 45.5 inches in total length. So the hand and a half is about 10 inches longer in total and the blade is slightly longer.

Also is Amazon a safe place to buy these Cold Steel swords without getting counterfeits? They are cheaper then on Cold Steels website but I obviously want the real thing.

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>>31651734
>>31651734
http://szymonchlebowski.pl/

CS doesn't make swords, they make vaguely sword like objects. If you want a good sword for a reasonable price help this polish lad make a living:


PS. cant fucking post links without the system acting up

>>31651734
Just get a gun tho.

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>>31651865
pic related would cost
560,00 PLN = 143,95 USD

check him out on FB for more pics, fucking system doesn't let me post the link.

>>31651898
Already have one
Swords are useful too. Never ever runs out of ammo.

>>31651865
>>31651911
>blatant shilling

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>>31651947
no, these are great swords for a modest price. they are actually better and more authentic then the CnC junk from wafers Albion sells. Real swords are thick is fuck, for example diamond cross section longswords are regularly 11mm thick at the midrib at the base with extreme distal taper in thickness and width which is something albion can't reproduce with their manufacturing methods. hence, none of their diamond cross section swords feel right. distal taper is what makes a sword feel like a sword. here a review of one of his HEMA swords:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7u1AUSHBU

>>31652019
Look i dont doubt that they are good swords, probably even better then Cold Steels but id rather order from a company then a guy i dont know. Do you know if Amazon is a safe place to buy their product? The price is significantly lower but i dont want a chinese knock off.

>>31652069
>Look i dont doubt that they are good swords, probably even better then Cold Steels

dingus, CS "swords" are garbage. their big 2 hander doesn't even have a full tag but has a piece of thread welded to it - there is videos of it breaking on YT if you wanna check it out.

>but id rather order from a company then a guy i dont know.

the guy is running a business and there is YT reviews online which I linked for you. Also, I'm a sword fencer of 20+ years and I'm recommending him.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=szymon+chlebowski

>Do you know if Amazon is a safe place to buy their product? The price is significantly lower but i dont want a chinese knock off.

No I don't know.

>>31651924
Ye thats why we all use swords.

>>31651911
...is that supposed to be a period, or a comma?

>>31652280
150$

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>Thinking of buying a Cold Steel sword
>Buying anything other than the Gladius.

>>31651734
Just get a God damn hanwei or windlass if you want a cheaper sword that doesn't suck.

>>31651734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPbTWDeqQf0

>>31651734
If you want a decent, affordable sword, get the Hanwei Tinker hand and a half, or the early medieval single hander. Kultofathena has good prices. The Hanwei Tinker line has better balance than the Cold Steel sharpened crowbars.

Seconding the hanwei tinkers. I have the EMSHS which is a nice sword, blade wise anyways. And the longsword which I'm eventually going to put a handle on.

The stock hilts are very plain though

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>>31652325
oh.

well that's not bad at all...

>>31652660
If you don't mind wrapping the hilt yourself, there are some alternative hilts:

http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=PAF004&name=Hilt+Modification+Kit+for+Hanwei+Tinker+Single%2DHanded+Sword+%2F+Early+Medieval+Sword+%2D+The+Dunvegan

>>31652721
I've heard of them, got a set of the viscount fittings for the longsword.

I just haven't gotten around to doing a longsword handle yet

avoid Cold Steel like the plague.

their knives are ok, for the price. dont pay a lot, dont get a lot either.
thier machetes are poor. pay a lot more for a fairly sub-standard product compared to a tramontina or similar machete.
thier swords are shit. Badly overpriced, extremely poor quality. they save money by doing a lot less grinding of blades. so a good sword that might originally have been made witha blade that went from 8mm thick at the guard to 2mm at the tip, will instead be made of 5mm steel that coes to 3.5mm at the tip. weight evens out, so on the scales its the same as the real one. but the weight is in all the wrong places, so it handles like a 3-legged hippo.

hilt parts are bad too - cheap castings.

not worth the money at all.

>>31651734
Cold Steel swords are fucking garbage, don't get either.

>>31652704
even with shipping from Poland, it's probbly going to be cheaper than those Hanwei tinker pieces of shit.

>>31653083
You'd be surprised- Hanwei Tinkers are pretty good swords.

>>31653217
only for ppl who never got to try a real sword.

>>31653462
I own an Albion, and Tinkers aren't bad.

>>31652019
Show me one historical example of an 11mm thick sword base

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>>31653604
>>31653751
and many others. the average german long sword of the 15th century is 8-10mm thick just out of the crossguard at the midrib.

>>31653767
>>31653751
>>31653604
http://www.zornhau.de/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/zef-waffen/zornhau-zef-6-gross.jpg

http://www.zornhau.de/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/05/DatenblattZEF06.pdf

this one is 8mm thick

>>31653767
well fuck, I didn't expect to see stuff that thick back then.

>>31653841
distal taper is what makes or breaks a sword.

here a one handed sword with 6.7mm at the guard:

http://www.zornhau.de/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/zef-3/sw-1.jpg

http://www.zornhau.de/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2013/11/ZEF-3-SW-1.pdf

most modern sword repros suck because they are made using stock removal from flat pieces of steel band usually +-5mm thick. they are to thin at the base and too thick at the tip to feel right and be strong like originals.

>>31653892
I know that, I just figured it'd be something closer to 6-7mm.

>>31651734
Just spend a little extra on the Albion starter swords. At least they know how to make them.

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>>31653967

>I know that, I just figured it'd be something closer to 6-7mm.

one handed sword are in that range usually.

>>31654041
Yeah, my antique cavalry sabre has a 7mm base.

Also, it's worth noting that some reproduction sabres do have proper thickness. Their quality is poor, but I have measured a few from universal to have a base thickness of 6-7mm and they do taper down properly

If they could make that out of not a shit steel and make hilt furnature that isn't poorly made they'd be very good swords.

It's a shame that I like sabres but don't like cutting with antiques

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bother to read this thread and I realize I only know BudK type and similar bulk sword dealers that sell stamped stainless pieces

pic is something different, Not sure what it is but I want one. I assume the end can be secured as a spear... pretty badass

>>31654211
And pretty worthless.

Just get a regular spearhead, that'll run you hundreds of dollars for something $20 from windlass will do

>>31654144
>>31654144

>Yeah, my antique cavalry sabre has a 7mm base.

yeah but they balanced horribly already in period and were often called wristbreakers. saber, especially for on horseback, are very specialized swords and sometimes relied on specialized cross sections to give them strength:

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/43/Preussen_Kavallerie_Saebel_M_52_79__266043.html

>>31652126
>I'm a sword fencer of 20+ years
That's a goodly amount of time to recognize you're gay and be sexually active. How old are you?

I've seen singlehanded messers with 11mm thickness at the spine close to the cross.
I've also seen messers that are 5mm at the cross.


>>31653892
>distal taper is what makes or breaks a sword.

I've handled viking swords that are just 4.5mm thick at the cross, tapering to 1.8mm or so toward the tip.
I've also handled type XV's which go from 6.5mm to 6mm 25mm before the tip - no distal at all.

Distal taper is just one factor. profile taper, the harmonic nodes of interval, the balance point and the frontal and rear pivot points, the mass of the cross, mass of the pommel, and the cross-section all alter the handling of a weapon, and make a good sword sing, and a bad one a turkey. a diamond-sectioned XV will handle entirely differently to an XII of the same length and weight, even with identical hilt parts.

Excessive distal taper is likely to result in a blade that's too wobbly and has a lot of unpleasant vibration, if the cross-section isnt shaped to counter that.

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I find late medieval equipment kind of unattractive. Greatly prefer 12th century stuff.

>>31651734
Cold steel doesn't make swords.

>>31654225

>am machinist.... will make own version... :D

>>31651734
Cold steel "swords" aren't swords. They're shit.

>>31654818
For the most part that's true.

I heard from Richard Marsden that their polish sabre is pretty good. Though I have no plans on buying one

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>>31654715
>I find late medieval equipment kind of unattractive

Early modern is pretty attractive, though.

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>>31654899

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

>>31654988

>early modern boipucci

>>31654988
>>31655003
He's a sword fencer of 20+ years as well

>>31652325
Why's the dollar sign on the end?

>>31654715
I prefer my knights donning mail mixed in with plates here and there. Full mail just looks too plain.

Sword and shield the best.

>>31654715
I love the look of a full mail suit... but that's about it.

Later stuff can be awesome looking too.

>>31655163
>>31655182

Full mail can look pretty good with a surcoat, as was shown in that picture.

>>31655084
because europ

>>31651734
Speaking of Cold Steel, is there a alternate place to get a cutlass? I've been thinking about getting an m1917 or similar after I buy my pistol.

>>31654715
Late Medieval is best Medieval
Plate armour and longswords

How are sword manufacturers arranged by quality? Like is there one of those handy tiered lists of Swords and other weapons or a buyers list?

Also, any body every bother buying armor for themselves wether for sport or just for fun?

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>>31655219
>Full mail can look pretty good

>>31651734
>buying sword
>being a man
Pick one
Real men smith their tools.

Got 2 windlass swords, they're pretty good for the price

>>31651734

They're good beaters.

Think of cheap norincos

>>31658849
Even as beaters they're bad because the hilt components are very loosely attached. After a bit of cutting on harder targets they'll just come loose and rattle