It has been a very long time since the United States suffered a serious military defeat against a foreign power. Since the Korean war combat casualties have declined while press coverage has increased, a situation that has made the American public very sensitive to soldiers killed or wounded in action. Even decisive victories like the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War can badly damage public opinion by implying defeat is a possibility.
If during a war with some foreign power they dealt a blow like the Japanese did during the Philippines campaign would the public be able to handle it? How would it be presented by the press if a major base was completely overrun and most of the personnel on site killed, captured or wounded?
Would we see livestream footage of it happening?
Would there be tweets?
It seems like the very connected nature of todays social media would make a defeat like that extremely demoralizing. This isn't a thread about who, what, how but one about how the aftermath would be handled.
In this scenario the United States would probably be on a total war footing. The populace would be dedicated to winning the war and while the defeat would damage moral, they'd still be committed to beating the other guys.
People seem to be more inclined to bitching about combat deaths when the wars are in 3rd world shit holes with ambiguous reasons for interventions. Killing sand niggers/nation building v. a full scale war.
>>31651492
You mean like defeat in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan. Like those defeats.
>>31651549
>You mean like defeat in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan. Like those defeats.
At no point in any of those wars did the United States suffer 146,000 losses in a single engagement. Four times as many men died in a single engagement as the total from OIF and Afghanistan combined.
>>31651599
It didn't help that MacArthur decided the best plan to defend the Philippines from invasion was to defend every single length of beach instead of concentrating his forces into a more manageable position around Manila.
If there was a major military disaster it would be worse than the enemy than for us. Imagine if the Houthis actually sank the Madison somehow, as an example. The Pentagon would not have been tweeting about consequences, we'd already be bombing the shit out of that sad little country.
The best way to deal with America is a series of small humiliations and losses that make us doubt why we're doing anything over there. A catastrophic defeat shifts the debate from "they're good insurgents they didn't do anything" to "OH FUCK EXISTENTIAL THREAT BOMBS AWAY."
>>31651492
>It has been a very long time since the United States suffered a serious military defeat against a foreign power.
But thats incorrect, we've never lost
>>31654727
Bait...but i'll take it
>Korea
>Vietnam
>Iraq
>Afghanistan
KEK
>The American Civil War
>>31651549
>thinking any of those were defeats
>being this retarded
>>31655571
>says he'll take the bait
>post more bait
>cant into history
god get the fuck out newfag
>>31651492
Very, very violently.
The military is probably the one institution the American people still love at this point.
Killing tens of thousands of soldiers would see lines out the door at recruiting offices and people forming fucking Abraham Lincoln battalions again.
Fighting America is like fighting the tide. The harder you fight it, the sooner you'll exhaust yourself and drown. Divert it somewhere else or get out of the way
>>31652387
He was ordered specifically NOT to defend the beaches.
He was also ordered to get his planes in the air before they could be wiped out on the ground.
He should have been court-martialed.