/akg/ AK General

>>31629397
poop

That picture makes me upset.

>>31629428
Don't be too upset

$300 in 1989 is about $600 in 2016

>>31629273
Kilo guns in AZ

>>31629397
from last thread:
anyone have an AK MOE handguard for sale?

I have an SKS. My uncle got an AK mag anyway for some reason, so now I feel I have to get an AK. Any good, cheap brands and where to get them? All I ever see in LGS are Centuries. I know /k/ shits on them, but why?

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>>31629438
>full featured chinese AK's for ~$600
>sidefolders and underfolders for a small premium
yeah it still should make you upset

>>31629438
Any of those would be worth at least $1500 today, even if they imported them today $600 a great price for a non sporterized ak.

>>31629456
poor rivets and QC. as well as bad barrels

>>31629461
>>31629466
What makes these better than the Aks I see for around $700 today?

>>31629397
No ads but damn I remember that during the 90's there was a store by me that sold a lot of surplus and imported guns. There was crates of gun long guns just stacked on their floor: $120 turkish mausers, $50 nuggets, .308 jungle enfields for $150, $100 chick sks's. $150 mas 56's. Bulgarian slr milled receiver ak's for $250(with stupid thumbhole stocks).

I wish I knew what I knew now and I would have bought crates of these guns.

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>>31629280

>>31629472
"Chinese"

The new Chinese AKs being imported to Europe are shit from what I here. Not as good as American pre bans.

>>31629472
The Chinese actually make really good military weapons, in some cases on Russian tooling.

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Russian-thunder.com is set to come back online this month just in case anybody was worried about them. They've got some good shit yo

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>>31629456
RAS47 is shit on because it beats itself out of headspace in a few thousand rounds

bolt carrier geometry is shit
metallurgy is shit
trunnions are shit
furniture is shit

C39V2 is slightly better due to milled receiver, but still dubious

Century's imported guns (WASR, NPAP, etc.) are fine.
Their kit builds (AK63D) seem to be okay, seeing as they use predominately surplus parts.

>>31629397
Where did Americans get 7.62x39 back in the day? I'd imagine it would be impossible to find in Jim Bob's Fudd gun store.

>>31629510
what about their 74's? Ive got one of those

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>>31629526
And Germany.

>>31629535
A Century AK74 was the only AK I have ever heard of that literally exploded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aIP4yZOcWU

>>31629535
Shit. They used 5.56 barrels in them. Kek

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I remember when Cabela's had mosins on sale for $90 about 5 years ago, should of brought 50 would have been a great investment.

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>>31629602

>>31629526

7.62x39 per case was like $70 back then.

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>>31629610

the accessory kit has the wrong oiler, thats for captured mauser rifles.

>>31629610
>super neat plastic bullet
I want super neat bullets

>>31629610
>SUPER NEAT PLASTIC BULLET
neat

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>tfw NIB rifle, six Chinese mags, a Chinese drum, and 1000 rounds of Chinese 7.62x39 for $350

It's too bad my dad sold all his HK rifles to get into ARs back when HKs were considerable cheaper than ARs. He still kicks himself over that.

are polish steel surplus mags G2G? or should i look for a different kind

>>31629561
>>31629565
huh. mines been shooting just fine so far, even decently accurate

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>>31629671
polish mags are good

thanks poland

>>31629673
if I were you I'd buy some headspace gauges to be on the safe side

>>31629671
GTG. Picked up a half dozen and they've all been fine. Some have reported that the paint they slap on them can make them tight in the mag well, in which case you'll have to file them down a hair. But hey, they're $10 for a reason right?

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>>31629671
They're great, AIM has some refurbished Polish mags for sale for like $11 a piece and they've been great, just a little tight (nothing a tiny bit of filing didn't fix.

>>31629693
even after 1k rounds?

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>>31629397
>ywn send a money order with an order form in an envelope with a 20¢ stamp and wait for your brand new Chinese AK to come so you can shoot can after can of copper washed surplus 7.62x39
burn it all down

>>31629711
Nice Maadi. Any Arabic writing on it?

>>31629717
Just buy a go gauge, it's like $30 from akbuilder

>>31629739
ah. Im getting the impression I should shoot it some more then just sell it for $700 and put an extra 200 in and grab an arsenal

>>31629717
Especially after 1k rounds. Headspace changes over time and the rifle may become dangerous. Hopefully your rifle keeps performing well, but since it is a model with a known problematic history I would be checking before every range trip.

>>31629723
>copper washed surplus 7.62x39
Shit's stinky yo, considerably more stinky than 7n6. I got a bunch of the Chinese stuff with my very first gun I bought (Commercial Chinese SKS) and I had no issues with it, but holy shit it smelt worse than cat piss.

>>31629728
Nope, just the importer's mark, MADE IN EGYPT, and the Pharaoh's head with it's production year in it. I wanted one with Arabic on it because that's neat but it wasn't a dealbreaker not having any.

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>>31629774
Still pretty dope. Mine has the sight ladder in Arabic. Showed it to a guy at the range and he asked me if I had taken it off a terrorist.

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So I mess with my AK while browsing.
Cocking it, removing the mag, all that good shit.
I just saw this, should I be worried?

Just sent out all the tracking numbers for the UPS packages. Will send the rest of the orders tomorrow morning

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>>31629610
>tfw got into guns too late to get cheap af milsurp

JFMSUF

>>31629879
Nigga, it's a free moving firing pin. The same thing happens with ARs.

>>31629879
happens with just about all center fire rifles

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whats a fair price for a Bison kit?

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>>31629898
yep. focus on the now, anon.

>>31629879
>try to kill self
>light primer strike
>cry and ask /k/ what's wrong with gun

>>31629898
It is worthy to note that most of the guns used around the world today will not be importable as milsurp in the future. Some might make it as kits, but it won't be anything like the full range of completely functional rifles we used to get.
>>31629935
Your picture isn't a Bizon tho?

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>>31629880
arigatou, VAfag-sama!

>>31629747
Thats probably a smart move, but If Im gonna buy an Arsenal I would go with the 5.45 SLR 104 model.

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>>31629944
no...

>>31629456
Save for a real AK like a DDI or a Definitive Arms and save yourself the hassle.

>>31629936
>$69 for 1k of 7.62x39

Well, I want to die.

>>31629935
1 dead doggo

>>31629397
MAK-90 edition next?

>>31629936

Did you want to make me sad anon?

Because you made me sad.

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>>31629397
I bought this ak and the gas tube rattled and the stock was a little short.
The magpul furniture actually did eliminate the rattle.
That's all I can say.

>>31629990
If it makes you feel better, its actually only 700 rounds.

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Whats a good folding stock that will fit my WASR?
Og romy looks legit but sort of hard to find and doesn't look comfy.
Considering zhukov but dat plastic...

>>31630145
Romy, polish, and e. german will fit. Still plenty of pol wire folding stocks out there. If you're putting it on a newer production wasr10 you may have some figment issues though.

>>31630084
Sounds good, NMH91 after that probably as well.

>>31630145
Tigers are comfy as fuck, I've had a red and black pair for over a year now

>>31630174
Will look.
Its a newer prod. Are the polish stocks somewhat comfy? I plan to put a pk-01 on this gun soon.
>>31630208
I have had over 10 pair in various colors
I have ratty pair for gym shoes.
This is my every day and work shoes.
You try sambas? I want some leather sambas for warmer feet in winter and trv slav feela

>>31630145
That's my AK pictured above yours. The Zhokov, I haven't shot it yet, literally just installed but I can tell you fully collapsed it's shorter than the wood was. Extended to the amount shown in the picture or farther is a better fit for me (I'm 6'2") but damn the extended part is ugly.
It's fixed the rattle because of the way the gas tube sits in the hand guard, unlike the wood, it mates up in a pretty solid manner.
Functionally, I think it's going to be perfect but you got to wonder why they made it fold over the safety unlike so many other stocks that fold in the other direction. So you can't really deactivate the safety to shoot it with the stock folded.
The wood was also walnut and really pretty so I have some mixed feels about the plastic too. I kind of miss the wood stock and grips appearance.

>>31630313
Zhukov just seems kinda flimsy.
I did watch akou video on it though.

What a country has polish stocks with sling mount for 89.95...

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>>31629276
;)
>>31629739
>>31629747
>Just buy a go gauge
You want no-go or field. If field closes you're fucked.
>>31629978
do this

>>31630484
I thought if no-go closes you're fucked, and if field closes you're close to being fucked.

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>>31630567
other way around
field is more-or-less: if close, next round is kaboom

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>>31630567
Other way around. If no-go closes you're just about fucked; if field closes you are absolutely and entirely fucked.

>>31629535
Handled one at Cabela's. My hand smelled like copper afterwards.

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>>31630277
I can say about using optics, but you can wrap the wire stock in paracord for a better, more comfortable chin/check weld and use irons fine. Pic related

>>31630739
*can't

>>31630739
Breddy nice.
Thats what I was thinking.
Metal folder just seems better than polymer.

Folder, dong, khyber cheese grater uper hg and pk-01

>>31630447
>I did watch akou video on it though.
They said it was rock solid so long as you don't try to run over it with a truck while it's folded, running it over with a truck while not folded was fine.
What do you want man...

>>31629879
I kind of freaked out when I first bought my AR and this happened.

>>31631082
Communist hate.
Zhukov have no slav blood in manufacturing process

>>31631135
That's fine and it's ugly as shit too. If someone didn't want to buy it because it's ugly, I'd also understand.
I put it on a 100% American made Century gun though so there's no conflict with slavaboo dilution. It seems like a pretty solid stock though. Just ugly and not slav.

Personally, I've always though wire stocks were ugly as shit. On the other hand ones like these >>31630484 are pretty awesome looking and that dude clearly has good taste in general.

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what does /akg/ have in the mail?

>PK-A Venezuelan
>bakes
>camo for DESTROYING NIGHT VISION

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Was wanting to sight in my rpk this weekend. Anyone used the tapco sight tool?

For $15 bucks I'm hoping it'll do what it's advertised to do well and be able to withstand being in a daily use/range bag without getting damaged.

Also I've read that shooting on a bag, bipod, and from the shoulder all have different POI on the rpk.

I was thinking about sighting in with the bipod just because I don't plan on shooting this heavy bitch from the shoulder very often, but how much of a shift are we taking about from the shoulder when you're sighted for the bipod?

I've heard as much as 4 inches above point of aim. Can anyone clarify?

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>>31630764
This is the current configuration of my 10/63

>>31629747
>grab an arsenal
Good fucking luck.

These guys have one might want to jump on it, apparently supply from Bulgaria is non-existent.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1ASLR10431&name=Arsenal+Bulgarian+SLR-104FR+5.45x39+Rifle&groupid=5388

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>>31631172
>bakes and plums
>WASR
>bakelite grip because WASR is coming with black plastic grip
>surplus furniture including dong for the WASR

tfw I'm a tad excited

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>>31631172
Just panic bought 1k of Golden Tiger and a stack of Croatian BHO mags.

>>31631185
How comfortable are those wire folders to shoot with and how much did it cost you?

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>>31631208
I feel like ill regret it if I don't buy it and if I do buy it.

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>>31631182
>Anyone used the tapco sight tool?
That's the tool I use on my ak/czech sights.
>but how much of a shift are we taking about from the shoulder when you're sighted for the bipod?
I'd say it's more like 3 inches @100 for me. Or basically from the "1" to the "0" on my 54r calibrated pso scope IIRC.
I haven't used the scope on long enough that I can't remember for sure. I usually stick to irons.

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>>31631213
this is the ideal WASR setup, imo. good stuff
>>31631215
Croat BHOs work perfect for me. no adjustments needed to fit the M10X. Hope they work for you.
>>31631274
the 100 series furniture is super nice. If I wasn't going for the soviet-afghan war look I would totally go for all black and Obzor.

>>31631172
Automotive parts.

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>>31631172
Drum mag

>>31631274
Its' stupid to go into debt over a gun. Don't buy it if you can't afford it. If you can afford it, jump on it.

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>>31631208

>think to myself "at least I got mine"
>immediately feel disgusted with myself

I got this 107 back in April, it had to be one of the last few ones at my LGS, and I think I'm starting to get the election-buyers equivalent of survivors guilt now that they're all sold out.

Fuck this election.

>>31631216
Not bad with the paracord using irons. I paid $70 for it a few years ago

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>>31631330
>all black and Obzor

Sup.

>>31631359
oh, you bought it after all

>>31631395
I still plan on buying Russian ones too.

>>31631422
I hope you make another group buy ending on a friday, thats when I get paid

Has Rusanon told you which kind of drums he has?

>>31631364
Normally I would agree but I'm worried about prices shooting up if Hillary gets elected.

>>31631208
A gun store in my area has 4 of these in stock

Anything I need to watch out for on these guns or are they pretty much solid?

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>>31631351
air filter housings? oil filter adapters?
>>31631359
was thinking hard about those, but I like the looks of the slanted molot drums better, and also there's no chance of giving them insufficient tension
>winding mags = airsoft flashbacks
be sure to post plenty of pics when it comes in
>>31631377
noice. I can get used to seeing Obzor optics on 7.62 rifles.
definitely on santa's list.
>the most effective DI optic in terms of transitioning between lighting sources and conditions
>increased situational awareness due to chin weld
those features alone sold me on it

>>31631471
Yeah, well I personally wouldn't get it if I couldn't pay cash and also not feel pain from spending that cash.
Life is so much more than buying guns and if you can't afford it, don't get it.

That's my advice.

>>31631172
SLR104UR
NOS AKS-74u handguards
Tula triangle folder
drop case
sling
3-2 Tula plum grip

most of which should be here Wednesday or Thursday

>>31631590
Pretty good advice

>>31631422
You getting a romainian drum ?

>mail order guns never again
>full auto never again
>good imports never again
>soon semi auto rifles never again once hilldog takes office because Trump keeps shitting the bed

Why does everything inevitably trend to shit?

>>31631422
Oh, also regarding drums.
How would you opt to carry them?
I was thinking one in a slung pouch if on foot, or if stationary one in the rifle. I would probably ditch it on the ground rather than try to put it back into my kit immediately, and then go to regular mags from there.

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>>31631659
>He thinks Hillary is winning

>>31631577
Check the serial number and look for one made last year or before. Arsenal is cranking out rifles for the various armed conflicts around the globe and their QC has slipped in the past year.

Hey VAfag I have a question. How in gods name did you get a Russian contact? Found him on AK files or some shit like that?

>>31631208
I feel like I see used arsenals for sale all the time in the arfcom EE for like 900ish. I could also just pick up a Bulgy parts kit and a receiver form Atlantic. would that be any good?

>>31631794
>Mag lock

I laff everytime

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>>31631692
>implying she's not winning now

If Trump wins, the first thing I'm going to do is post a pic of me shoving the barrel of my SLR up my own ass w/ timestamp. Mark my words.

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>>31631835
thank you for correcting the record

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>>31631172
>Polymer side folder and four true black Izhmash mags sitting in post office literally across the street from my house to be delivered tomorrow, won't let me walk over and pick them up today
>Three more true black mags should be here later this week hopefully, tracking hasn't been updated since they first departed their original destination

>>31631330
>If I wasn't going for the soviet-afghan war look I would totally go for all black and Obzor.
That's what I'm going to after my stock gets here. Plum and triangle is nice but black and Obzor is really neat looking too.

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>>31631835
I hope you like things in your ass.

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>>31631845
>even their bosses think they are faggots

huehuehuheuhue

>>31631777
Faps to the moon

>>31631845
It's not looking good man.

I've been basing my purchasing decisions this year on the assumption that we will see a Hillary presidency with day one executive orders targeting ammunition/firearm importation, at the very least.

>>31631879
My autism will never unsee the droop of the Arsenal polymer folders. I get that they use the older 4.5mm hinge, but why couldn't they just emulate the in-line angle of the 5.5mm Russian polymer stocks?

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>>31631835
>Someone doesn't realize how biased the media is.
>Someone isn't paying attention to how many pro-Trump t-shirts, hats and bumper stickers there are compared to Hillary's.
>Someone isn't looking at the near empty rallies for Hillary Clinton while Trump is filling stadiums.
It's you.
You still need to go and vote Trump though.

>>31631835
>>31631949
>trying to induce panic so you can offload your shitty RAS47 for over a grand

Go away.

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>>31631971
>>31631835

>>31631984
If I were trying to induce panic I would be spreading memes about a new AWB, when there's a relatively low chance of that happening.

But I love 5.45, and therefore executive orders could fuck me over hard on day 1. I worry about this, so this year I stocked up. Plenty of other people are getting out of 5.45 entirely.

>>31631835
you are a victim of the mainstream media. sadly, so are millions of others.

>>31631589
Model car parts. Kek

>>31631998
You also need to remember, half the bleachers are high school students from North high.
I should know I'm from Omaha.

>>31631172
MG pintle for RPK
>tfw ordered from Poland almost a month ago
>no shipping confirmation yet

>>31631971
>>31631984
>>31631998

Don't get me wrong, I'm voting Trump regardless, because it's my constitutional duty.

But I'm not expecting Hillary not to win, even though I want to believe otherwise.

>>31631998
>>31631984
>>31631971
Id still rather assume the worst. Him getting elected would be best case scenario but good things dont happen to me so why would that happen

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How are AMD-63s?

I want a first AK, don't want to spend an arm and a leg nor do I want garbage from I.O.

>>31631373

>104+107 twins
>OD ar
>PTR

I'm ordering my PTR as soon as I get paid but holy fuck we have all the same shit. I got my 107 last year after going two years without a firearm purchase and the past year has just been a blur of throwing money at guys on 4chan, reddit, akfiles, some random dude that sold me a whole box of shit with almost no English spoken while we negotiated price, and a whole lot of paychecks going (almost entirely) straight to sgammo. It's getting out of control and I need an adult.

>>31631167
I would love a triangle folder.
But would require weld or rivet hinge and then stock...
And $$$$

>>31632124
The only reason anyone ever gets these hideous mystery-meat barrel monstrosities is because the AK market hasn't been as shitty as it is now since the 1990's.

>>31632113
My prediction,

She's going to win both coasts.
Trump is going to win everything in between and probably Florida.
The coasts are huge population centers so she may get the popular vote. Geographically Trump will most of the states. It'll be interesting how it turns out in the electorate.

>>31631949
>My autism will never unsee the droop of the Arsenal polymer folders
I know it triggers my autism too but its considerably easier than swapping the rear trunnion for a 5.5 folder

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Not Vaporware

>>31632140
So don't buy one

Got it

Nevermind then

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>>31629935
Baby trunnion, I'd say $1400 for a Vityaz kit
>>31631359
Top loader?


Need to order one of these..

>>31632124
current AMD63s being sold have shit barrels, don't bother.

>>31632143
a few of the polls are guessing similar. hillary wins electoral but the popular vote is very close.

>>31632152
I think Ive seen abortions more appetizing than this

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>>31632152

What's /k/'s opinion on RH10 AK?

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/rh10-ak47-magpul-ri2424-n-detail.html?Itemid=0

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>>31632167

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>>31632143

I swear to christ if AZ flips blue I'm catching the first SpaceX flight to Mars and fucking off this planet for good.

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>>31632167

>>31632152
it looks like a bushmaster ACR and beretta ARX had a baby in CZs factory

>>31632179
>if AZ flips blue
Absolutely no chance of that, though the dogshit polling done is really trying to push it as a strong possibility. They've even tried with fucking Georgia.

>>31631330

>If I wasn't going for the soviet-afghan war look I would totally go for all black and Obzor

You could technically go for the Ukraine civil war look with wood+triangle and an obzor.

>>31632179
If az flips blue I'm going to burn down every legislative building in az for not listening to their constituents
>Inb4 ATF partyvan
>Plz don't shoot my doggos ATF

>>31629472
Chinese preban AKs are the BEES KNEES

>>31631835

Well now I have two reasons to vote for Trump.

>>31632152
Still made by Jews.

Kek

>>31632152
its like an AK had sloppy truckstop sex with an XM8

>>31632174
The next couple of Supreme Court justices. Just one will sway it to the cucks.

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>>31632068
Both Hillary and Obama have come to my campus recently and it's always the same SOP.
>private event only, no forewarning to those uninvited
>campus notifies us like a day before the event for changes in parking
They're always closed and vetted circlejerks with choreographed press coverage. They don't even use the stadium because they know they can't fill it, it's always a ballroom or the like.

When Trump came we got the works. Seats packed, almost two hundred outside. Violent protesters, etc.

Obama canceled his most recent visit because of Hurricane Matthew, which didn't even hit us. It rained for about an hour. Did definitely feel the low pressure though.
>>31632080
keep pinging them. was it on GB?
>>31632169
it's a dressed up WASR, still made by Cugir. If you like the combo FSB and furniture, go for it.
>>31632203
good call! wasn't thinking that recent.

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>>31632203
I've been seeing some black+triangle AKS-74's in Ukraine and I like the look.

>>31632169
>>31632284
I don't know why you'd want an FSGB unless you like the way it looks and/or plan to SBR it

I don't care for either but it's up to you

>>31632169
>>31632284

Much appreciated

>>31632155
What cans are those?

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>31632258
Jews have always made better AKs than the Russian originals

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>>31632333
Wolverine PBS-1, and they're perched on Mike Pappas' OTS-90

They came out recently. Can't wait for more data.

>>31632402
*OT-90
http://www.recoilweb.com/cold-war-rv-1982-ot-90-jpj-tank-104713.html

https://deadairsilencers.com/products/wolverine-pbs-1/

>>31632322
its like the bastard love child of an ak and a vz58. it does it for me, no idea why.

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>>31632352
agreed

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So do I have any minute sort of hope of finding an AK for 500ish before it all starts tumbling down and the scalping begins again, or should I just give up and look for an AR?

>>31632402

Am I correct in assuming that this will mount to the 24mm FSB on my arsenals? Because if so I want it. I think suppressor prices in the US are fucking stupid, and then there's the stamp and nonsense wait time, but I've spent much more on things I haven't even seen for far longer so fuck it.

>>31632491
well...maybe more a galil, but still....

>>31632518
Start looking at an AR unless you can find a package deal and sell shit off it like optics, extra furniture, etc

>>31632417
>>31632402
Why are silencers so expensive? I know they're NFA items, but there's no artificial scarcity like with machine guns and they don't seem terribly terribly complex.

>>31632552
For the same reason gun ranges are expensive to shit on the East Coast and in places where they hate guns. They're viewed as toys/not a necessity and the people are willing to pay exorbitant prices for them.

>>31631794
Building two of these right now, and this pic always makes me diamonds with anticipation

>>31632519
They have a whole slew of mounts for different threads. I don't know if it ships with all of the adapters, but their site does say it supports 24R threads.
>>31632518
$700 is entry level to the AK market right now.
below that, I wouldn't trust.
"Building" an AR can be cheap, but you shouldn't cheap out. At least get a free-floated upper.
Both options put you in the same price range.
>>31632552
they can be pretty darn complex (see OSS), but the main thing is that most companies are relatively small time and the cost of R&D plus manufacture is not small. The PBS-1 is relatively complex when compared to other suppressor designs because of how it mounts, but Dead Air managed to keep the price competitive. companies often have to sell at high profit margins too because they don't sell a lot to begin with.
It's all part of an ouroboros clusterfuck that starts and ends with the NFA.

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>>31631835

I'll stick a bakelite up my ass if trump wins, capture this post

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfS1ySx0H70
Been binging on this guy's videos. Good stuff.
This one is definitely hard mode.

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It's not the original finish, but this guy did a REALLY good job of imitating the early 80's Russian AK-74 finish, and it is real Russian wood, for $100 it's hard to beat.

Posting this here so I don't buy it myself.

>>31632663
tastefully done on his part

>>31632619
>>31632552
Not to mention the massive barrier the 1 year wait time the ATF has provided for us right now. Prices would be way cheaper if the market was more accessible.

>>31632619

>They have a whole slew of mounts for different threads.

Mmm, yeah I saw that. I'm going to wait and confirm before I pester my lgs about one but I'm kinda genuinely excited.

>(see OSS)

A few months back while I was picking up a 1911 I started looking at suppressors and they had a few of the OSS "muzzle devices" and sleeves. Interesting system in theory but goofy as fuck in practice, since the "baffles" are a huge snag magnet muzzle fixture. I understand that it's supposed to eliminate backpressure issues and kill flash better but the guy straight up told me that the ONLY people buying them are stamp collectors with HK rifles that want the look and don't care about practicality.

>>31632552
Probably massive markup since they probably don't sell all that much considering all the bureaucratic bullshit you have to go through to get one.


I mean it's not like car mufflers are super expensive and that's pretty much the same thing in design.

>>31632685

Isn't most of that fallout from the swarm of 41p or f or whatever pre-cutoff trust submissions?

That's simultaneously tragic and hilarious.

>>31632352
>>31632509
Speaking of, whatever happened to McNig?

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>>31632655
some of these are impossible-tier, at least with 720p

>>31632704
>>31632619
>>31632581
>>31632552
>>31632685

Will prices come down if the hearing protection act passes?

>>31631172
A few shirts

>>31632803
I would expect them to

Demand will go up and economies of scale dictate that price will go down.

>>31632836
Ah yes Shillary will totally not veto that.

>>31632692
>the ONLY people buying them are stamp collectors with HK rifles that want the look and don't care about practicality
pretty much. they're primarily useful for firearms which don't have adjustable gas systems.
I'm a nerd and love the design, but would never be able to rationalize owning one. Having worked with turbines before, it's super cool to see one in reverse, on the front of a firearm.
>this kills the backpressure
definitely one of the most interesting designs the firearms industry has seen in the past decade
most of the significant advances we see are applications of tech from other fields. optics and coatings are still making a lot of progress. most recently prismatic optics are becoming affordable for the common man
>>31632773
absolutely. It's just like a video game, you lose several dimensions of your senses and have to perform the same tasks. I do hope he gets a better camera, but his content still has plenty of value.
>>31632803
one can only hope
>>31632736
he ascended into a being of pure energy, the ultimate greyman
>>31632721
41p basically means that any further NFA transactions have your name on them. You can't sit behind the proxy of a trust anymore.

>>31632858
Why do the Democrats have to be the 0 fun allowed party

>>31632858

Couldn't they have just attached it to something that has nothing to do with guns and worded it as ambiguously as possible at the last minute and had it sneak through?

Last anyone heard it got referred to some subcommittee to float in limbo forever. This wasn't by accident.

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>>31632881
Because they are brainwashed socialists who want us to be like the rest of the "civilized" commonwealth. Vote red. At least those christ fags can't overturn homo marriage or abortions despite the audience they pander to.
>>31632895
Thats how they kill bills they don't like. It's over bud. America is going down the shitter and all we can do is slow it down since that asshole Scalia died. The only true justice of our lifetimes.

Buy now. Be a "pre-banner." We've already lost.

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>>31632871
forgot pic
>>31632881
did you ever have friends when you were younger who said they wanted to rule the world? ever wonder what became of them?
some of them are still at it.
>>31632895
>This wasn't by accident.
Absolutely not. I've seen it year after year with campus carry and open carry in FL. Passes House, dies in Senate. One man, Senator Diaz de la Portilla (R) intentionally does not put it on their agenda once it gets to judiciary and the bills die every time. It's an extralegal veto. He doesn't have that power, but he's taken it into his own hands.

Who is it that holds the politicians accountable?

>>31632871
Proxy of a trust. No such thing.

They already knew when they ran it.

>>31632956
It's not an effective way of concealing one's identity, but it's one more roadblock in the way of the bureaucracy from making the connection.

I really wish I could still believe there isn't a digital database of firearm owners.

Also, CLEO signoffs.

>>31632871

>any further NFA transactions have your name on them

It also eliminated the chief LEO sign off and replaced it with a notification requirement. Though I'm hearing legitimate concerns about the fact that it appears you have to provide them with all of the paperwork you provide the BATFE with no prerequisite standards for record keeping on their end, which is horrifying.

I like how the FOPA specifically tells NFA owners to suck a huge cock when it comes to a federal registry. Fucking laws in this country make no sense.

>>31632947
>Who is it that holds the politicians accountable?
Us. With our guns.

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>>31632803
the more people who can access a product, the greater volume it can be purchased. the market will then produce more suppressors to supply this demand and with greater competition the price will drop.
>>31632736
laying low from the gov after bundy ranch

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>>31632947
>Who is it that holds the politicians accountable?
The "jews" and their sheeple. I hope that was a rhetorical question. I'm not even a racist/antisemite but even the JFPO admit it.

It's fucking over. Buy your lowers. Buy mags. Come February all hell will break loose if the Republicans lose the House.

I've been preparing since Sandy Vag. Racking up CC debt. Ya'll shall too. Just look at NY, MA, or CA.
>>31632988
I agree but in light of recent proposed State legistlation I am registering two AR lowers and another arm. The NSA already knows what we have anon.

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>tfw southpaw and can't use offset optics
>>31632988
ayy, good thing you can read my mind
>>31633002
>>31633012
;)

>>31632947

>Who is it that holds the politicians accountable?

Billionaires and banking elites.

>>31633033
>>31632947
occasionally revolutions. not here in the US. lot more shit has to go wrong before thats feasible.

>>31631359
I bought 10 after you shared that link from slickguns. Thanks btw

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>>31633012

>The NSA already knows what we have anon.

Between all the shitposting I do here and the money I've sent to guys on akfiles I don't doubt that one bit.

I need to snag a few 45 round bakes/ribs before it all goes down in flames, but I've already decided to buy another rifle.

>>31633051

It doesn't help that almost half the country considers shit going wrong to be the way forward.

Fuck everything. Burn it all down.

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>>31633084
>>31633012
Buy "registered" lowers and flats and "high" cap mags. Part kits and such will always be available. While you may not be allowed to "manufacture" a scurry gun if you already own it you're good. I look at commifornia for guidance.

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>>31633030
>folding stock
>baby killing clip
>bayonet lug
>a fucking knife attached to a school children killing machine
>pistol grip to shoot from the hip to spray and pray
May Gxd have mercy on your soul

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>>31631468
Payment schedule is generally flexible. Larger orders can pay half up front if needed. But it makes payment a logistical pain so please don't abuse that ability
>>31631658
Yee
>>31631664
As far as transport I'd go with a Romanian drum pouch on a belt. Alternatively you could go with a shoulder bag. If you are in a real fight I'd just ditch it if I couldn't get cover to return it to my kit. Though it would be for my rpk so I'd be on a stationary position probably
>>31631746
I met the first contact via ebay and then the current RusAnon lurked akg and contacted me. Then there was another one too, but he vanished. I'll probably try to get in contact with him again soon
>>31632655
Good old based brent. I love that guy
>>31632803
We can hope.
>>31633057
Glad it was helpful.

The ATF only has paper records of ATF purchases. That's as far as they are able to go due to congress in 1986.

>>31633266
Can they resist the temptation to scan those paper records into a searchable, cross-referential database?

I have my doubts.

>>31633289
It's against what congress said.

There's a vice documentary about it too and several newspaper articles about it.

How do you think they lost so many class 3 records a couple years back.

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>>31633266
They have a full fucking warehouse and storage containers full of 4473s you retard. Watch the fucking documentary on Netflix. And if the shops are still open they will come buy and search. Stop being so fucking naive.
>>31633260
So I understand you're a shill but how much ass do those "romanian" drums blow? I tried one and it was shit compared to my pre ban chinese and my top loader.

>>31633313
Takes them weeks on end to search them. The staff can't even keep up.

>>31633289

They cannot legally digitize records according to some whiny leftist rag. I forget where I saw this, but apparently there's just some dude in an office with a bunch of paper records and they complained that the government should be able to index and hunt down gun owners on a whim with no oversight.

Never forget that they truly and genuinely hate you with every ounce of their fucking being; they hate what you represent. They want to see you riddled with bullets fired by their militarized police because you own guns so you're probably white and male and it's your turn.

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>>31633289
They are on microfilm dumbass. They may as well be digital. Watch the fucking netflix documentary and realize when your gun shop closes down they know you, if the local cops don't search through the records as I've seen. It's a hurdle for those not in the know, but they will find the wholesaler, disturber, retailer, and maybe you.

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>>31633333
Weeks ain't shit unless you are fleeing the country brah.

>>31633353

For some reason I thought FFLs only had to keep the 4473 for something like 60 days. Guess not.

>A dealer must keep this on file at least 20 years, and is required to surrender the log to the ATF upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of, the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation.

How exactly is this not a database of firearm owners?

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>>31633215
don't forget the tar and feathers
>>31633289
you could build a precise database of the "nails sticking out" from internet usage alone. don't assume the ATF is the only entity involved. It's a concern of foreign governments, even.
>>31633266
>>31633350
I don't believe for a second that there isn't an under-the-table database being built and maintained directly by the ATF.
>>31633353
also this
>>31633378
it is. the gov't needs a warrant to get into it, but the ATF automatically absorbs that 20yr log if the store closes. some FFLs don't destroy their old documents either, thinking it will cover their asses. it won't

>>31633353
I know? That was my point, there might as well be a database if there isn't already. I know all about friendly ATF agent Chad showing up for an audit and running all the LGS 4473's through a scanner.

>>31633378
Now you're getting it.

>>31633413
Database=Hackers. There is a reason the records are kept physical. If the ATF needs more people, then hire them. That shit should never be online.

>>31633493
The records should not be centralized, digitized, or otherwise made searchable. They should be destroyed.

This shit is why I prefer buying private.

>>31633493
even if it were offline, it becomes an extremely sensitive target by criticality (specifically in terms of information density). you can't just run away with several tons of paper records, but once it's digital the abuse becomes much easier and more tempting.

the government is curating those records, so getting an insider on the job would be infinitely easy.

>>31633550
>>31633574
I don't disagree. But this is what the FOPA gave us. It's better than nothing and if SHTF I pray those agents burn everything.

>>31632140
>>31632156
Source? Any reported problems? I know that they're not telling where they came from but I'm curious as to whether anyone has had an issue with one yet.

>>31632736
I hope the fucking nigger died somewhere

How can people like underfolders, no way to rest your cheeck on the folder, limited to certain mags if you want to fold/unfold the stock, shit way of aiming when folded.

My 2 cents, but I can't see myself buying an underfolder.

>>31629489

>>31635313
1) it's called a chinweld
2) using 30 round mags isn't exactly a bad thing
3) same as a side folder, except it is more compact

>>31633313
Not a shill m8. A couple of threads back I asked if there were any good drum mags on the market and the concensus was that Romanians were the best currently available. No doubt that Russian or Chinese pretty bans are better, but those aren't really an option at the moment

>>31629526
surplus man

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>>31629280
>>31635471
In proper RPK length, perhaps.
>>31634283
That banana looks over-ripened. Not sure it's safe to use.
Who made your 5.45 rifle?
Also nice lineup in general. K31 rifles and bayos are top-tier.
>>31635313
in third-world countries folding stocks are problematic because once they fold them, they never manage to unfold them.

>>31636171
"Surplus Man" - the superhero of /k/.

>>31636146
The newly made RAS drums are made out of pot metal.

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>>31636497
The drum I bought is Romanian made. I don't buy American made mags

>>31636532
Hey can you verify the russian anons email for me? it just dont want to send money to random people with pictures of magazines.
If you could sendd it to my email.

>>31629487
>chick sks's

What precisely makes them sks's for chicks?

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drake's vz58 with beech set
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think he meant chink. the autocorrect overlords were not having it.

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>>31629610
>the feels


>GOT DAMNIT YOU FAGS BETTER VOTE TRUMP SO HE CAN SUSPEND ANY SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA AND IMPROVE TRADE WITH THEM

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>>31636850
vz a best

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>>31629610

>$50 M44

>>31636871
This, not even about guns, we need a president who doesn't continue to drive a wedge between US and Russian relations. We get more and more at odds because our leaders continue to villainize the Russians. There is literally zero reason why two of the world's superpowers can't get along and have a decently stable relationship (or at least be more neutral and not be at odds) and of Hilary wins our relationship with Russia will go even further down the toilet. Under Bush we had the best relationship with Russia in nearly a century, and once Obama came into office it all crumbled. We need a leader who understands that THE COLD WAR IS OVER and that THE SOVIET UNION DIED OVER 20 YEARS AGO. I really don't understand why trade with Russia is such a bad thing in the Left's eyes.

Obviously Putin needs to lay off his dick waving too, but if we had a leader who approached the Russians with respect, without ill will, and without villainizing them our relationship with them would improve substantially.

>>31637102
Its because despite what shills tell you is that the Democrats are the war party now. They know the best way to convince the plebs to accept widespread government control is by using war to justify it.

>>31636752
Sent

>>31637214
Thanks man.

>>31637102
The relationship between Russia and basically everyone of any democratic leaning is turning sour because Putin is behaving like an ass.

Trying to play nice with him in the hopes of buying "peace in our time"? I'll give you points for persistence, Chamberlain. But your track record ain't inspiring much confidence.

With Trump on the other hand dragging the executive-judicial powers split down into his Fritzl-brand "enhanced seduction techniques" cellar to violate one of the main foundations of a democratic state wasn't some kind of insinuation from the opponent or a big scandal that broke. No, it was something he outright promised.

Good luck with that one.

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>>31629510
Clearly you've never owned or shot a WASR or a C39V2, I paid 710 for my C39V2 and it's probably the GOAT for money:gun ratio. WASR on the other hand is really unimpressive, "you get what you pay for"

Anyone who shit talks them is a newfag/noguns parroting incorrect information.

Only sad thing is I bought mine before siderails became standard on C39V2s so I have to install my own.

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>>31631172
ak parts, tropentarn, m05 cold weather parka

>>31629456
My C39V2 is great, K is just full of noguns pretending to be gunsmiths

Don't own a RAS but they look good and I'd rather have one than a WASR or NPAP, my WASR and NPAPs are really unimpressive

>>31637235
I see neither cleaning rod nor bayonet lug. For what purpose?

>>31637235
Good gun advice from the guy with two tapco magazines

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>>31637270
OH SHIT CHIMPS SHOTS FIRED SHOTS FIRED

>>31637290
SIDE RAIL MOUNT IS 4 FLASHLIGHT TOVARICH

>>31637300
Nigga needs some SpongeBob tape

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>>31637235
>>31637252
fucking noguns just don't appreciate american workmanship

all this nerdy shit about rockwell hardness and headspace...if it's good enough for yeager it's good enough for me

>>31637235
>Only sad thing is I bought mine before siderails became standard on C39V2s so I have to install my own.

Is it standard now? I checked a few online retailers and every v2 I found for sale did not have the side rail.

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>>31637235
>paying over 700 dollars for century
kek even my saiga was cheaper

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>>31637053
Still loving that barrel bag. I'm actually using a surplus vz sling to shoulder it.
It's just a shame that there's not more vz offshoots. AKs have so many neat options for collecting.

>>31631172
Late laminate handguards that I'm unsure I'll even install now. I'd like a few Tula and molot plums, other than that I just need ammo.

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>>31631172
>PKA-V
Based

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I have these coming in the mail

>>31637235
>another retard who thinks his ticking timebomb of a rifle is G2G because he did his yearly 30 round magdump out of it


Holy shit where do they keep coming from?

Any thoughts about the DDI/Waffen 74s?

>>31638088
Made in America, my ADD kicks in hard after that

>>31638088
replying to myself here, I can pick one up for about 520, with scope rail and railed foregrip (not that I necessarily want the railed foregrip) and one of the east german bakelites.

Plus the guy is selling a few more 30rd bakelites for $25 a pop which I might purchase regardless.

just wondering if the later DDI waffens were a little better or if I should avoid at all costs.

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>>31638056
Russian? Polish?
>>31638072
is your favorite mag that molot ribbed plum?>>31638446
depends on how much a military barrel is worth to you. american barrels can get better groups in certain circumstances, but they don't have near the lifetime.
what mount is he packaging?
>>31638060
thanks. I love that setup. saved.

>>31638681
Fairly certain it's a Regulate mount, but I'll have to check.
I'm not concerned with ultimate accuracy at this point, its the fact that every AK on armslist or in LGS' in my area are overpriced, as in, RAS47's for 900 and other shit, so finding this for 520 with a bakelite was pretty decent.

As long as it won't fall apart in 5k rounds like an I.O. I'm fine with it.

>>31638714
if that's the case, then it might be worth buying for the mount alone. You're getting a $300 AK and EG bakes packaged with it.
Flip the DDI later if you find a better one.

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>>31638681
So far....
Tho i love them all.

>>31629397
Thermold or WBP for new 7.62 polys? Any appreciable difference in longevity?

>>31638766
Hott.

>>31637235

Had a WASR from century where the barrel was installed several degrees canted. Fuck Century.

>>31638741
>>31638714

Also, for mags, I'm planning on picking up a couple bakelites while this guy doesn't know what he's doing with them, and then I'd like about 10-15 cheaper mags.

Are the US Palm mags decent, and also, are the Polish clear poly mags decent?

the surplus steel mags and bulgy mags are hitting $40 each now...

>>31638799
and picking up a venezuelan PKA, if anyone owns one and has a review of it?

>>31636850
oh fuck, i want one now.

>>31638825
just to elaborate, ive wanted one since psa had them on sale for $400 plus five mags. i missed out on the deal and theyve gone up ni price since. for what a cai vz2000 costs now, i might as well buy a d technik for $1000

>>31638783
I ordered a 23" veprs in 6.5 Memel and now I realize mags are impossible to get. Anyone successfully made their own ar mag adapters? Canis seem to be run by jerks who take your money and keep you hanging for over a year.

Also what's the best bang for buck Slav optic for wasr & vepr side rail?

>>>31637235
>Had a WASR from century where the barrel was installed several degrees canted. Fuck Century.
How does one cant a barrel ?

>>31638851
You can bend the barrel while populating said barrel if you mess up or the barrel is made of butter.

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>>31638768
go for circle 10. don't buy range mags
>>31638766
i wish the vepr 12 mags were as pronounced as those. they match the ribbed handguards so well.
>>31638799
US Palm mags have glued floorplates, so they can't be non-destructively disassembled for cleaning. They're also pretty bulky, so they don't fit well in most mag pouches/rigs.
There are plenty of good steel mags out there, just avoid Korean ones. Croat BHOs (~$12) work well for me, but don't fit every rifle.
Polish clears are brittle.
Circle 10 mags will last forever, but they're pricy. 7.62 bakes are also great, if you can get them.
>>31638812
will have mine in hand on friday probably. at least one other anon has one>>31638060
there's plenty of good anecdotal reports on them. basically heavier and less efficient than an aimpoint PRO but very well aesthetically matched to AK rifles. I do like how Daewooguy's PRO looks. Some can pull it off.
>>31638837
same here. I'm such an idiot for not jumping on that. I was weary because I didn't do my homework on them.
>>31638851
i imagine the gas ports could be drilled and incorrectly aligned with gas block.

>>31629472
100% foreign built Chink AK's. Same deal when people drool all over old Hungarian and similar imported 100% foreign AK's

>>31638906
>shitty tripfag yet again responding to multiple post in one post like he's some sort of authority on shit
Die in a fire

>>31639098
At least he has something interesting to say unlike that other effeminate narcissist

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Just copped that AES-10B that was on GB for $1050. I'm already fuzzy inside.

AKs are ugly as. I'm sorry they're just hideous. I can't be the only person that thinks this.

>>31639265
post your sexy rifle, or what you consider sexy

>>31639265
No, you aren't. I, however, disagree with you. Not only are they beautifully effective, but they are also beautifully aesthetic to me.

>>31639265
>Then why would you come into a specific thread dedicated to AKs?

Yes, yes you are.
Now git.

>>31639080
Chinese, especially stamped AKs are different from European

>>31629397
Is the Donkey Dong effective? Or is it not and that's why it's the butt of many jokes?

>>31638681
I'd like to know what they use to do up their AKs like that

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>ywn operate with your AK in Africa
Why live?

>>31639322
I imagine it's as good as any other foregrip on a rifle

>>31639359
Be grateful you weren't born nog you nig.

>>31638074
Not that anon but I've yet to hear anything catastrophic about the C39
Maybe the cut bolt carrier but that's really it

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Got some mags in the mail, got this delicious bake and a polish surplus. Macros are apparently the only thing my phone can do that doesn't look like shit.

>>31629681
Speaking of Polish mags, for some reason mine goes in the receiver nicely but it's very hard to push the mag release and I have to push the mag forward as I'm doing it just to get it out. This is the only mag out of 3 it does this too, anyone know how to fix? Can I grind it down somewhere?

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>>31639251
nice! post pics when it comes in.
>>31639265
Once I understood the western military doctrine well enough, my attention turned east and then I fell in love. An acquired taste for some. I was once in your shoes.
>>31639322
Yes, very. It keeps your hands away from the heat and gives more options for keeping the rifle stable. Can inhibit reloads at first, but not difficult to train yourself to do them properly.
>>31639339
"paki tape" It's similar to handlebar tape, or racket tape. You use tension to secure it, no adhesive. pic related is one of my favorite "khyber" AK photos
>>31639377
this. all day. We have an option to operate, they may not.
>>31639393
beautiful

>>31639377
Oh, I am very grateful that I'm where I am. However, it'd be awesome to fly to a third world country with my own weapons, help some friendly factions fight other factions, and fly back. Wouldn't that be fun? Like an operator's vacation.

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Fuck me i just bought more mags off files.....
2 40rnd steel romainian 7.62x39 mags for $58 shipped

Can I make the next thread please when we hit the bump limit?

>>31639447
Good for you, buy your shit now. If Hillary wins, you'll have increased your investment. If Trump wins, you'll still have increased your investment, albeit a smaller amount because guns and gun accessories aren't getting cheaper

>>31637102
I don't even like Pootin but God damn I do love Russian guns

>>31639450
Just make sure it's MAK-90 edition.

>>31639450
OP here, I have a thread ready to go.
What'd you have in mind?

>>31639438
Maybe in a computer game.

>>31639513
Oh, it'll be a -90 Edition.

>>31639529
This >>31639546

>>31639551
That'll work.

Lets make it "official"

New thread

>>31639546

>>31639546

>>31639546

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>>31629397
Are you trying to make me sad or something?

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>>31629428