So what's wrong with the new Flankers?

>>31623082
35's? Not much, they've pretty much made it to F18C/D level. Which for a Russian fighter isn't bad.

But the 33, 27, and 30 still have plenty of problems.

the 34 is pretty great

>>31623082
THey're Russians, which makes them not as good as Swedish or CHinese planes. And the should be rivets and bad welds, typical of Russians.

Apart from a fact that they are 15 years too late - not much.

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If you like airplanes, than this documentary is definitely an interesting watch.
It's got a little russian propaganda, but very good, nonetheless. It definitely changed my impressions of Russian aviation.

https://youtu.be/KFkVDZWwK1w

I think there is a higher quality one somewhere.

>>31623082
Already outclassed by F-15Es with APG-82s, F100-PW-229s and Sniper ATP-SEs.

>>31623082
>F18C/D level

How are they comparable to mid-1980s fighters?

Qualify your statements with something.

>>31623266

Guy before you said they're basically on par with F-18Cs from the early 80s.

So the F-15E with APG-82 and new engines is just as bad as a legacy Hornet?

>>31623378
Who cares what the other guy said; the Su-35 is a heavy fighter with a good PESA, but APG-82 > Irbis-E and Sniper XR ATP-SE / Legion > OLS-35.

>>31623082
Still a Flanker.

>>31623082
Made in russia.

>>31623266
there's not that many fitted out like that.

there's not that many Su-35s either so that kinda evens it out.

>>31625058
>there's not that many fitted out like that.
Yeah, but there's also 187 F-22 and ~200 F-35 now.

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MiG-29 is more sexy

>>31625185
>and ~20 F-35
Ftfy.

>>31623082
Nothing. Like there isn't nothing wrong with upgraded F-15s

>>31625667
Try again, idiot.

>>31625228
And has the range of a folded paper airplane.

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They decided to go with the black/blue pattern which is ugly as sin.

>>31625698
Doesn't matter since they'll all just crash anyways.

>>31623228
I like the statically unstable discussion - where the aerodynamic center of lift is in front of the center of gravity. I'm curious how different this is with the F-16 or F-15.

>>31625843
Most, if not all, modern jet fighters are tail heavy. It increases maneuverability at the expense of stability, which is no problem with FBW.

>>31625840
>Zero crash record after 15 years
>First program to ever have that good of a record
Keep fucking trying, dipshit.

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>>31625698
Why would I if you didn't even try?
>>31625803
Maybe, if you are talking about 9.12 or something alike.
>>31625806
You know this is a photoshopped picture and the pantjob of this prototype is actually yellow/brown/green in real life, right?
http://russianplanes.net/id132270
Besides, light blue Su-35S are sexy as fuck.

>>31626511
>Stuka in the background

u wot m8

>>31623387

Why didn't you correct him? He's the first post down.

>>31623387
>APG-82 > Irbis-E
Lol.
>>31626533
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=&airlinesearch=&countrysearch=&specialsearch=&keywords=ra-0565g&sort_order=photo_id+desc&page_limit=15&daterange=&range=&thumbnails=&engine_version=6.0
Here's a link to more pics, but for whatever reason it doesn't work anymore.

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>>31626533
Oh wait, silly me, there's G in the end.
http://www.airliners.net/search?registrationActual=RA-0565G&display=detail

>>31623082
Lacked development due to financial collapse.

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>>31626708
He said Flankers, not Fulcrums.

>>31626511
>Why would I if you didn't even try?
>Trollposting bullshit lies about the F-35
I'm telling you to try again, your bullshit's tired.

>>31626732
>Trollposting bullshit lies about the F-35
That would be saying that there are around 200 F-35 in service.

>>31626511
>You know this is a photoshopped picture and the pantjob of this prototype is actually yellow/brown/green in real life, right?
So? Is OP's pic a photoshop too?

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>>31626764
No, 902 is indeed painted like that. But these are prototypes, while serial Su-35S are either plain dark grey or light blue. So they didn't really go with the particular black/blue pattern you are specifically referring to.
http://russianplanes.net/st/Sukhoi/Su-35S

>>31626754
Built and deployed to Squadrons doesn't count? Because there's a lot more than 20. There's already 11 squadrons equipped with it.

>>31623108
>F18C/D level
>Comparing heavy multirole and light multirole

>>31623082
They are built by grimy, Slav hands