First time panic buy

>>31614546
>If Hillary wins
>Buying guns the next day
Too late, welcome to the shittiest hobby.

A scattergun and a 10/22 are the furthest items from being banned. Take a look at CA & MA named items and buy those if your scared.

That being said, hi-cap 22 mags could be on her chopping block

You should be buying now if you are worried.

Also those are shit weapons to buy if you are worried about bans. Get scary black rifles instead and double stack pistols.

>>31614546
Do not panic buy.

The reason that .22LR is so expensive now is because numbnuts create a huge rush on it every time someone in DC mentions anything about guns.

There's no shortage, there's just no reason at all for the manufacturers and retailers to lower the price, since we are obviously all willing to pay through the nose for plinking ammo.

So calm down. Hillary is NOT anti-second amendment, she's pro-business and the firearms industry is a pretty damn big business. She says the right things to mollify the anti-gun people, but when the chips are down she will do exactly what Obama did: nothing of consequence.

>>31614644
Sadly in my state the ar 15 is banned, Hvars are still avalble but many gunships won't sell to anyone under 21 and any lag over 10rds is banned from buying in state (however I can buy them out of state and being them in). Most gun shops around me won't sell to an 18 year old and the ones that do restrict most of their items to those over 21. Welcome to the state of Maryland.

>>31614734
I'm less concerned of hillary but if what the state legislators do if she Did become president. In Maryland where I live we have rediculose laws surrounding the purchase of firearms and ammo. Close to CA and NYC

Scary ARs will get the ban hammer if Hilary is elected, so go for those first.

>>31614764
>what the state legislators do if she Did become president.

The President can affect state politics a lot less than you think.
If your state's gun laws suck, get involved and start getting politicians elected who understand the definition of "infringed".

>>31614711
Sadly I still live with my parents and they would let me get a "wooden gun" but said if I got an ar I would be kicked out. So I'm looking at milsurp, and non threatening looking guns right now. Also I'm a senior in high school and money is kinda tight.

>>31614777
Thank you I will try, sadly I love in the land of din du and live in the ouskirts of baltimore in,Maryland.

>>31614788
Buy an AR lower along with whatever non scary wooden rifle you want.

>>31614802
As losers are no longer available in md I have looked into 80% losers but I only have a and drill to make it. My family doent have any machining equipment. I could buy a dremmle.

>>31614826
Lowers not losers

>>31614826
80% lowers are a good option if you are willing to pay for the equipment required to finish them

>>31614826
>Losers are no longer available

I-I'm still single

>>31614826
You can buy lowers in Maryland.

>>31614958
if there is a place that would sell to an 18 year old i am all ears. I have really wanted one and if you have a place i would be glad to know where it is.

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>>31614788
>Sadly I still live with my parents and they would let me get a "wooden gun" but said if I got an ar I would be kicked out. So I'm looking at milsurp, and non threatening looking guns right now. Also I'm a senior in high school and money is kinda tight.


Well, don't count on much Milsurp getting banned either, but try to snap up something semi auto. SKSs are cheap and look fuddy, but shoot hella common ammo and are semi auto. Can't go wrong with em.

>>31614925
could i get away with it if i used a jig, a power drill, and a dremmel?

>>31615010
not a bad idea, I have heard they are available for 600 ish?

>>31615011
>could i get away with it if i used a jig, a power drill, and a dremmel?

Bruh, just get a cheapo drill press from Craigslist. Look for a desktop version, nit the big stand up jobs. It'll run you one, maybe two hundred bucks.

>>31615022
>not a bad idea, I have heard they are available for 600 ish?

Less if you don't go Soviet. Get a Norinco (Chinese) or Yugoslavian. They're still very common and more in the $4-500 range.

>>31614734
>Hillary is not anti gun
>half of her talking points are how she will ban guns
>you are a colossal fool

Democrats won't be able to take the house back. Gun control won't be able to be passed without that. The world isn't ending guys, nothings getting banned. Can anyone here make a logical case for what Hillary could do that Obama with Hillary working under her couldn't do?

>>31615040
It's OK, keep posting pepes and Trump will somehow win.

>>31614998
Don't know where you are in Maryland, go to a store specialising in AR's there a million of them and ask about building an AR. They will happily sell to you. Just have to have an HBAR barrel for Maryland law.

>>31614734
Are you fucking retarded...is that your problem?

>>31614734
Yea right

She talks about banning military style "assault weapons"

That is 100% anti gun. She will definitely try to push through a california style ban

>>31614788
What the fuck? People actually judge guns by their aesthetic qualities and not, you know, their functionality? Like getting an AK is fine but an M4 is haram?

>>31615105
What do people need full auto weapons for though?

>>31614546

You niggers aren't seeing the bigger picture.

The next President will likely appoint 2 if not 3 supreme court justices as the retire/die.

If it's Hillary doing the appointing then WE. ARE. FUCKED.

Suddenly every pro 2nd amendment law will be challenged in court and ruled as unconstitutional.

We will see a 20-30 year reign of liberal courts fucking our shit up constantly.

>>31615131
For wasting ammo

Duh

>>31615131
Any legal purpose they feel like.

>>31615138
You got it wrong

Anti second amendment laws will be ruled constitutional meaning states with strict bans like california and new york will be allowed to do whatever they want.

It also paves the way for a strict new AWB.

>>31615144
Such as...

>>31615131
>he thinks 'assault weapons' are full auto

>>31615160
We don't need to justify anything.

>>31615160
anything you would use any other gun for.

>>31615105
How can she pass them through a republican controlled house? Tell me that. Obama couldn't do it. She's even more disliked among Republicans. They will not work with her on gun control. Feinstein is also almost dead/close to retiring.

>>31615151

Hell, they can do both, can't they?

One of the corner stones is D.C. vs Heller. Can't they go back and reverse that decision? Also look how they struck down the Texas voter ID law.

I'm telling you. A supreme court that is 7-2 liberals vs conservatives will spell our doom.

>>31615181
>hunting
Nope
>Target shooting
Nope
>Personal defence
Borderline
>Collecting
Maybe

>>31615111
Somehow i don't think OPs parents would approve of glorious Kalashnikov

>>31615151
Unless there's a huge shift in congress. How is federal gun control going to be passed? Also when have the supreme court radically gone back and reinterpreted recent court rulings?

>>31614546

You're a fucking idiot.

>>31615191
>hunting
Yes
>target shooting
Yes
>personal defense
Yes
>collecting
Yes

>>31615185
They could reverse the decision but it is rare for them to do so

>>31615184

If Hillary wins it will likely result in major gains for the dems. They would take the Senate for sure and would get very close to taking the house.

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Listen up OP

Fellow MD resident here. I've been looking for ways to lawfully purchase scary salt weapons here in MD and there are several options. Pics and posts incoming. Theres more available than you know.

Because of your parents, I would buy an sks with 20 stripper clips and 2000 rounds of wolf 7.62x39. This will leave you extremely well armed for about 800 bucks without frightening your parents. You can also easily remove the bayonet to make it look more friendly. Chinese and yugos can be purchased for 350 to 450. Russians are 500 and up. I own 3 sks's, 2 russians and 1 yugo. Pic related is my m59

>>31615191
Yes to all of those actually, just with more bullets.

>>31615191
This b8 is tilting me so hard right now

>>31615202

You misread him. The laws will be state and local and the courts will back them.

Also the courts will start chipping away at pro 2A laws by ruling them as unconstitutional.

The big concern is if Hillary has the opportunity to fill the supreme court vacancies.

>>31615212
But the president's party basically always loses seats in Congress.

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Next is the vz58. There used to be a ton of century rifles floating around for 400 to 500 bucks. Now theres CSA imports that run about 1k. They are magazine fed, semi auto 7.62x39 rifles made in the Czech republic or built on czech parts. Also extremely good and a solid alternative to the AK. Mags can be found at gun shows in VA. My personal favorite

>>31615111
i come from a deeply anti gun family and they once tried convincing me that the ruger mini 14 was more deadly when in the black laminate bc "it doesn't reflect light like stainless steel does so it was designed to kill at night without making a refection." i have ni idea what their though process is but basically it has to be in wood or have some shiny metal on it or else its "a weapon made to kill innocent people without them knowing."

>>31615212
The majority they'd have in the senate would be a 54-46 majority at the most. And with current polls they won't be able to retake the house. Even with a 50/50 split in the house there's no way they'd pass gun control measures, especially an AWB.

>>31615244
Haven't current courts already upheld state level AWBs and a ban on CCW? You're going to get those things changed on a legislative level, not a court level.

>>31615196
the answer is no, no they do not. I shot an ak74 clone that my friend had and the grounded me for using an Assault weapon without asking them first. even though i told them i was going off to shoot some guns at my friends Grandpas ranch.

Third are AR's. Despite what you think, AR's are still legal in MD in HBAR configuration. You can also buy lowers for cheap. Fox firearms in Columbia and Engage Armament in Rockville have a great selection of rifles for as low as 700 bucks. Again, drive to VA and buy 30 round mags everywhere for 15 bucks.

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>>31615294

AK's are also still legal in pistol format in x39. You can buy a full size Molot ak in 308 for a battle rifle set up or in x54r for slavic authenticity and sexy pso optics. Molot ak's are the best on the market, even in free states. These are Russian made sporterized RPK's. Pic related

>>31615279
The supreme court has not ruled on the state bans

>>31614788
buy an unmodded saiga sporter and only keep the 5 round cuck mags around

or an Ares ACR and drop a shotgun wood stock on it, also with 5 round flush cuck mags

or move the fuck out. if you aren't getting free college out of the parent-child relationship as a legal adult, head out to the oil fields or become an apprentice tradesman already and live in a shit apartment with your guns.

>>31615340
That is one of the benefits to my parents. Bc they both work for a hospital i am getting a pretty good college bonus. Also besides the point I care about them more than i do about guns.

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>>31615294

Lastly, you can legally buy handguns without an HQL once you turn 21. C&R military surplus handguns can be bought online and transfered. Tokarev and p64 handguns are good quality and can be bought for 250 bucks.

Don't bow to your parents or the shitty laws in this state. You can still be well armed despite what this state's lawmakers think and what the majority of people here feel.

Feel free to ask any questions.

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>>31615184
>Feinstein will die in your lifetime
>And then be replaced by gen-xers that will be even worse

>>31615367
I don't think anyone will have as big a hard on for gun control as her. It's part of her entire political legacy. That's the reason why half of this is pushed, they failed to get the AWB reinstated in 2004 and it embarrassed her and Charles Schumer. Once they're out of the picture the push won't be half as aggressive.

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>>31614788
Got you covered

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>>31615067
the millions you ctr shills are spending, you apparently think posting pepes IS going to make trump win.
>cough cough alt right cough cough nazi frogs
Just like the news inexplicably doesn't understand why trump is gaining points post "mean words gate" with all demographics, including women, to the point of "having nothing" that they think a fucking jerry springer interview and the big reveal that he's a heteronormative fucking white male will end his campaign

>>31615294
do you know if fox firearms carries lowers that can be bought by someone my age. I was under the impression they where a restricted weapon and couldn't be bought till im 21.

>>31615401
Lowers are considered an "other" by the ATF as they could be built into a pistol or rifle. So any FFL (not just MD) cannot sell you a stripped lower

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>>31615357
>I care about them more than i do about guns.
welcome to /k/, now get the fuck out

>>31615215
Where did you purchase yours at? Allegany County here.

>>31615412
so in otherwords the only way for me to get an AR-15 lower is to buy the whole HBar

>>31615429

Purchase the sks or one of the other guns?

I've bought them online, at the gun center in frederick, and at the gun shack in mt airy. They show up on armslist pretty often

>>31615138
This.

>>31615439
I'll have to check those out. Thanks anon.

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>>31614546
Don't wait, spring now. Because I can assure you by the time November rolls around and it nears time for voting guns will start getting pricey REALLY quick. Just 3 months ago NPAPs and WASR-10s at my LGS were ~$550 - $600 now they are upwards of $700. (Luckily I sprung an got an NPAP for $540 out the door)

Op here. If im going to be hiding a gun it needs to either be compact or be able to be broken down. i have a small crate at the bottom of my closet that i can put a lock on and keep them in there. I know a 10/22 take down will fit, im pretty sure that a rem 870 with its barrel off will fit too. SKS im not to sure about. Any thoughts?

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>>31615490
pic related

>>31615490
Kek tek sub2k

>>31615490
Get a PAP pistol and a good sling.

>>31615513
i would in a heartbeat if i was 21

>>31615520
Sorry I'm a retard, I forgot you said you were 18.

>>31615490
How old are you? Man up, take a NRA approved firearm safety course and join a range club and get proficient. Demonstrate to your parents you've thought this out and are not a complete fuckup. If you have to hide a 10/22 from them like you're first porno mag at 12 years old you've got bigger problems.

>>31615524
Np I hope to present myself as older than i am.

>>31615535
Apologies for atrocious spelling and grammar. Fucking phone.

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>>31615490

one idea.

>>31615390
That monstrosity is ugly as Fuck

>>31615584
Dope.

>>31615535
yea i have tried that. I am an eagle scout who has the shotgun and rifler merit badges. Along with that i have been the rage officer's second in command at the summer camps after i turned 18. I have also taken the NRA Marksmanship programs and have several certificates proving my proficiency. Sadly none of which have resulted in my parents trusting me any more with a gun in the house.

>>31615604
stupid auto correct on my phone has me making all sorts of mistypes. sorry for my grammar.

>>31615061
Have political members who disagree with her killed.

>>31615604
Time to join the army then.

>>31615584
or cut some molding off the bottom of the wall and just cut a hole into the wall itself to hide a gun which you can put the molding back over for hidey.

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>>31615594
while i was looking for others i saw this

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>>31615587
It's grown on me.

>>31615724
It looks kinda cool tbqh.

>>31614734
She wants people to be able to sue gun manufactures for deaths caused by weapons made by them. It was in the wikileaks emails.

>>31615397
>trump is gaining points post "mean words gate" with all demographics, including women,

The delusion is real...or /k/ has been invaded by Trump's subreddit.

Neither option is appealing, really.

>>31615724
That looks out-fucking-standing.

>>31614734
Record Corrected.

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>>31615604
>Looks like a hunting rifle but is actually an AK in disguise.
Unfortunately it's way overpriced. The 7.62x39 version is slightly cheaper and can take AK mags with slight mods i think.

>>31614546
panic buy?

get a sks... thats what i did.

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>>31614734
>Hillary is NOT anti-second amendment
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/07/wikileaks-release-hillary-clinton-press-secretary-says-gun-control-implemented-executive-order/

>>31615942
>Breitbart
>Valid source
Pick one.

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>>31615942
>unironically using Breitbart as a source to support an argument

>>31615973
>>31615951
>too stupid to just click the links that the article references

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1509

Please don't start with this credibility questioning, Wikileaks has batted 1,000 since it's inception, they have never NOT been wrong. The reference is not breitbart, use your eyes.

>>31615951
not that anon but the article has sources... you're just not at a reading level above high school so I understand how you missed it.

>>31615951
>>31615973
hill shills on /k/
shoulda known

>>31615992
>they have never NOT been wrong
I know what you're trying to say, and this isn't it.

>>31616029
This is not your safe space, millennial.

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>>31616048
4chan was never a safe space

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>>31616048
Not that anon again, but jesus christ... you cant be serious. Is today opposite day?

>>31616048
>Safe space
>Millennial

You forget to use the words "selfie", "Starbucks", and "hashtag".

-5 points from your essay.

>>31615039
ive heard the chinese and yugos are shit and inaccurate
my old roommate told me "russian or bust"

>>31614734
>Supply is less than demand
>Prices have skyrocketed because of demand
>"There's no shortage!"
You libshits sure can into basic economics, can't you

>>31614734
Obama restricted imports. I wanted my damn worst Korean go-rand. Even if cai tattooed the damn thing.

Of course that Manchurian candidate McCain took care of my 1911. So who knows who you can trust anymore.

>>31616105
Chinks and yugos are fine. I beat the shit out of a norico and it never failed.

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>imbyign I'm scarred of her Hitlerly Kitten

Quite being such pussies guys. Moldy labia. That's what my pappy you used to always say.

>>31615951
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-top-priorities-gun-control-and-immigration-reform-could-she-deliver-on-either/2016/05/01/b134c3f0-0e1a-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html

>Try this one.

>>31616178
yeah but can you hit anything

>>31616216
It's a sks! If your shooting at anything more than 250 yds away you bought the wrong gun.

And yes it was reasonably accurate at 200yds. Pie plate accurate anyway.

>>31615010
Get a wood furniture AR, or an AK

>>31616235
Was meant for
>>31614788

>>31616205
>Hillary's moldy labia
Thanks for putting that image in my head fucker

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>>31615510
>Assistant Senior Patrol Leader
>being the bitch of the SPL
"Sorry, anon, we think you are probably a better leader, but Troy is just cooler than you."

>>31616235
Tried that. From some data from when i tried to figure out what set them off it is this

1. black
2. protruding mag/magwell
3. used by bad guys (Russians, chines,Germans, Austrians, japan)
4. originally for war (Bp rifles included)
5. dosnt have a safety
6. clicks to aggressively
7. can kill (for some odd reason she doesn't mind shotguns bc she says they are for bird hunting and cant kill humans.)
9. has been used by any Mexican or Argentinian governments in the 80's
10. has an abbreviations that starts with an M#, A#, or has some scary sound in its name such as SCAR and Scorpion.

all 10 of these things causes my family go into a blind rage and speak about how republicans are tearing the family apart.

>>31616344
yea it sounds pretty funny. and honestly i just did it because i needed 1 more leadership requirement.i did absolutely nothing.

Hope you're ready for an hour long background check OP

>>31614788
Get a Mini 14

>panic buying fudd shit
what's even the point? That shit will be the last to go.

>>31616422
Sounds to me like it's time for you to stop telling your family what you do

I live in NY and dunno what to buy.

I have an SKS, a 10/22 that I hate, a cucked ugly NY AR and several AR lowers. Im so tempted to just build a noncompliant AR but I could never take it out. I dont feel like hunting for nonthreaded barrels.

Also honestly considering a mini 14 but that seems like it wont be banned. So not sure what the best use of my money is at the moment. I bought 1000 rounds of 223

>>31616289
Molon labe =moldy labia

>>31616603
NY compliant AK.

They don't actually look that retarded.

>>31616603
You can buy an ar lower and the parts without an issue. Or a saiga and be happy with an almost ak. Fellow NY fag here, bought my chinese sks in 2012 for 325 and sold it in 2015 for 600. Not condoning gun grabbing... I'm just saying. Also bought a nagant in 2009 for 110 and sold it this year for 200. I'm just saying.
Mini14 fucking sucks. I'd get a legal ar... and maybe a buffer tube and bolt so that it can be converted if you ever leave the state. Or you can just wait until you leave the state to purchase those.

>>31615510
>being ASPL

SPL, JASM, Quartermaster, Patrol Leader or bust, homie.

>>31616705

Where? What they called?

>>31616705

as I said I have AR lowers. I just find it nexto impossible to find compliant uppers that dont need compliance smithing.

Im just wondering if I have lowers what I should be getting now. I dont see it being hard to get the other AR parts should I so choose

>>31615942
How many times was this floated around when Obama was talking about gun control? The limitations of the executive branch don't allow the president to sign a paper and ban guns the next day.

>>31616422
>Republicans are tearing us apart!
>Btw fuck gun owners

Liberal logic

>>31614546
Skip the shotgun and save for a basic bitch AR. 10/22 is a great first weapon and was mine too.

You might want to borrow $800 and pick those two up tomorrow.

>>31617010
If Hillary is elected, we will have a majority democratic supreme court. Don't underestimate that power.

>>31614737
Bruh, go to Engage Armament in Germantown and pick up a MD legal heavy barrel AR. They specialize in high end AR builds bur sell a few entry level black guns. Then go to the nearest free state (any) and pick up a few 30 rounders. Don't be a pleb and get a 10/22 that is not going to get banned.

>>31617102
>spending less than 1k on an AR for shtf rifle

Are you actually retarded

Don't buy a gun, make molotovs and burn your family.

But really think about moving out and tell them you ain't having their all feels no logic bullshit parenting, or deal with it as it is and not enjoy things in life.

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>>31614546

>>31617179
You know i was looking into a good place to hide an Ar if i got one and i ran into this lib piece of propaganda trying to show how to concealed carry an ar. shit is funny AF
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1300277/Chilling-video-shows-easy-hide-AR-15.html

>>31617183
>muh Gucci jewellery gun
>muh doomsday operating
2/10

>>31614546
Buy an ar15.or an ak.

>>31616707
I was permanent patrol leader for most of my time in, by the end I felt like a grizzled Senior NCO.

I love seeing hill shills post in these threads

>lol come on guys, she's NOT gonna take away your guns or whatever lol

What is the talking point going to be when she signs AWB 2.0?

>lol, i mean come on guys, you can still have muskets, thats what the second amendment covers right?

>>31617271
How fucking dumb do they think we are?

>>31617309
I just hope that people reading these threads don't believe that posts like that are coming from legitimate gun owners.

You choose not to vote for Trump in this election, I disagree with it but that's your prerogative, but to say you're voting for Clinton is silly. To say she's "pro-gun" is just asinine

>>31617235
Kek, just stuff it down your pants!
Really though, how often do they check between your mattres and box spring? Do you have an unfinished basement? If you do then between the joices, above the roll insulation you could build a small hidden shelf. I hid a Mosin from my parents until I was 18 this way. You could keep it locked in your car trunk. You could disassemble it and poll fit it in that footlocker as two pieces. Don't quit, go for the AR!

>>31617241
>buying anything better than sub par garbage tier parts is a waste of money
>trusting your life to a dumpster gun

Kill yourself

>>31617383
Its absurd to suggest that you need to spend +$1000 to build a reliable AR

Don't try to project your buyers remorse onto other people

>>31617399
>implying you can build an AR worth a fuck for less than 1k

Parts list please

>implying I have buyers remorse

>>31614788
>non-threatening guns
What the fuck does that mean?

>>31617410
m16a1 parts kit, Nodak spud lower, ar15sport 20'' pencil barrel

Once again, don't try to project your insecurities onto other people

>>31617457
>implying any of those parts are acceptable quality

Again, kill yourself

>>31617474

>I dont actually own an AR

Got it, thanks for clearing that up

>>31617410
nigga you can get a PSA premium upper with an FN made chrome lined 1/7 barrel and a complete blem lower for $680

>>31617485
No no anon, thats not "Acceptable Quality (TM)"

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>>31617482
OK

>>31617376
ok you know the post below. that black locker is where i can hide it.
>>31615510

>>31617474
>implying only one person is disagreeing with you
I can get a colt expanse for 700 including shipping and some spare mags and nothing you say will be worth a damn.

>>31617503
>he bought a fucking EO tech
>he's talking shit about budget ARs

KYS or come back with an ACOG

>>31617485
>PSA
>quality

If you aren't at LEAST buying BCM tier or above, you're a fucking poorfag asking to be killed.

>>31617524
>claims to be knowledgeable of ARS
>claims mounting a magnification optic of any sort is intelligent

Kill.
Your.
Self.

>>31617503

>Daniels Defense
>EOTech

Lol, with all that bluster I was expecting you to post your KAC or LaRue.

>>31617533
Go the fuck back to /arg/
Those threads exist for a reason

>>31617520
And any worthwhile optic will put that build automatically over 1k. Youre not really helping the argument.

>>31617503

>EOTech
>Any sort of electronic sight on a SHTF rifle

Are you serious?

>>31617550
That's the point, a rifle ain't gotta be gucci to be considered high quality.

>>31617567
Because optics have never been used in ACTUAL wars or anything, amirite anon?

>>31614734

My god you're retarded, clearly have not been following her. Don't forget that her husband was more than happy to sign off on the last AWB, she was right there encouraging, talking how much the country doesn't need guns, etc.

>>31617576

Right, thats exactly what I've been saying. You don't need to spend in excess of $1000 for a quality AR

>>31617586
> both a SHTF scenario and warfare with the world's greatest logistical entity backing you up have the same nuances to consider

kys pls

>>31617566
Slap a MBUS on it and call it a day.
Saying everyone NEED a certain accessory on their gun is just stupid.

>>31617593
But so far the only sub 1k options you have posted are garbage. I have shot more than a few sub 1k AR builds, theyre without exception pieces of shit.

>>31617605
>I require an entire logistics division to supply me with a handful of AA batteries

OK.

>>31617630

Right, I was definitely talking about changing batteries and not talking about replacing and fixing easily broken parts.

Use your brain before you post stupid shit

>>31617661
>optic breaks
>flip up BUIS
>problem solved

Wow that was hard.

>>31617675
>just use irons
>first two steps are unnceccassary
>problem solved

Damn son, Einstein better watch out

>>31615249
After the latest shit they dug up on trump?

There's a very real chance the democrats will sweep both houses.

>>3161770
>implying optics do not immediately improve the accuracy and reaction time of even the most trained shooters
>implying if you even look at your optic wrong it will break into pieces

K.

>>31617717
Makes me wonder why the GOP are suiciding over these headlines.
I thought the President was a seat of policy, not character.

>>31614737
>Sadly in my state the ar 15 is banned, Hvars are still avalble but many gunships won't sell to anyone under 21 and any lag over 10rds is banned from buying in state (however I can buy them out of state and being them in). Most gun shops around me won't sell to an 18 year old and the ones that do restrict most of their items to those over 21. Welcome to the state of Maryland.

Stroke/10

>>31615022
>not a bad idea, I have heard they are available for 600 ish?

Jesus. I bought an unissued Yugo for $105. I should have bought a case of them.

>>31617732

Because most of the GOP neocons are in the same boat as the democrats. They are fucking traitors and they knkw if Trump wins their crimes will be exposed. They are so fucking scared of being hanged for their crimes.

>>31614764
What are the ammo laws? I know a few shit counties won't let it be shipped to your house.

>>31617800
you have to be 21 to purchase hand gun ammo and .22lr is classified as hand gun ammo.

>>31617955
Order online. Fuck Maryland ammo prices in the ass.

>>31615184
She'll try to use executive powers but the real threat is whomever she appoints to the scotus. They can pretty much neuter the constitution.

>>31615263
That's the kid of stupid that were up against.

any recommendations for a first time buyer?
I've done some shooting and prefer pistols mostly

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>think it's him straight up telling a chick she's worthless and he can grab her by the pussy
>it's just banter between him and the guy from entertainment tonight
Shit is so blow out of proportion, and only a month away too. Sad!

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>>31614737

>>31617508
I bought my Colt from Engage a couple months ago. They are not a fudd store like the other places in the state that yelled at me over the phone because I asked about their ARs. They know the law and will sell to an 18 y.o.

>>31614546
Get the AR now as it is most likely banned, also handguns but you are under 21

wait on shotguns and bolt action rifles because they will probably be legal in the future if there are more bans

>>31615184
Supreme court justices, which serve 'till death.

>>31615510
>ASPL
>Cuck to the SPL
Well at least we now know your parents won't let you buy an AR because you have crippling autism.

Side note, Venturing>Scouts

>>31617169
By one. And they have never voted purely on party lines save for a few like Scalia.

>>31617503
>No feet
You just googled for that, didn't you?

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>>31617548
>Optic both the Marines and Army have as one of the main units issued
>Rifle designed for 300m+ engagements can't use a magnified sight
>Not good on an AR

>>31617630
>Trijicon models generally need no batteries

>>31618087
>It's OK to joke about sexually assaulting 50% of the voting public!

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>>31616422
I think your family might actually be retarded, anon.

>>31616493
>.22LR
>last to go

Nigger that shit will be the first shit that goes missing and mysteriously shows up on armslist for 3x the price.

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>>31619764
The gun cases were strictly along party lines.

>>31615010
>Wood gun
>No ar
Jesus, just get an ak

>>31614788
Buy an AK, or buy an AR and put wood furniture on it. Looks beautiful an your parents probably won't know the difference

>>31615358
How exactly is that legal, and or is it not?

>>31619829
>Optic both the Marines and Army have as one of the main units issued
Don't forget they also sued the shit out of the same optic providers too.

>>31620945
Yes, Eotech, not Trijicon, which aren't magnified sights and the issue was self-obscuring enough that it took a decade to be discovered.

>>31614546
I don't know man. After the debate, it looks like Trump might still have a shot. He roasted Hillary even though he got killed in the first debate.

>>31622186
Dude Trump was savage af tonight.

>tfw daddy's gonna MAGA

>>31615105
>banning military style "assault weapons"
Jokes on you
I don't like ARs or AKs, or most scary black rifles at that matter.

>>31614546
But a good deadly salt rifle before it's too late.

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>>31615040
>>31615105
>>31615775
>>31615942
>>31617590
You guys realize being anti-gun is the same as pro-business?

NRA actually WANTS the president to scare people with anti-gun. Big bucks from panic sales. Repeated bans and anti-gun scare wankery is good for business. Bans expire, come and go. The last Clinton in office did a bunch of bullshit anti "assault weapon" restrictions, and it all expired LONGER AGO THAN THE BAN ACTUALLY LASTED (10 years, ending 12 fucking years ago).

When it comes down to it, nothing that really matters will get banned, just the "scary" looking shit. Remember that dude who went on a cop killing rampage recently with an SKS? Got re-spun into being an "AR" in a lot of news articles, while the actual SKS fits perfectly in a lot of "sport" rifle definitions. NRA fucking loves this because ARs are a hot commodity a lot of manufacturers make and only going to get hotter if people think there's going to be a crackdown. Yet even shit like the California bans end up just retarded and mostly circumvented.

I love with my dad and he's aiming at getting an AR. I have a 22 and a single shot slug gun, should I get an AR or other rifle too, or is one good for the two of us?

>>31623046
Spend your money on something else. Feign loyalty, and use the single shot to take him out when his guard is down.

>I love with my dad
Never mind, I didn't realize it was like that...

>>31614826
you can't buy full lowers at 18. tried last year and failed. ended up buying one of those furniture less rifles from Anderson for around 400 buckaroos. honestly familam buy scary black rifle.

>>31615164
>not getting the most obvious meme

>>31615510
>being the literal cuck to the spl

sorry bud its over for you. might as well fill your ear hole full of bbs

>>31614734
>Hillary is NOT anti-second amendment
CTR faggots on /k/ now

Wondeful

>>31623000
>Dallas shooter used an SKS
It was a 5.45 AK you uninformed swine. Show's how closely you paid attention.

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>>31614734
>Hillary is NOT anti-second amendment, she's pro-business and the firearms industry is a pretty damn big business.

I feel like this is a half truth. She's talked about background checks and closing the gun show loophole during the race, which is fine. As a Californian, stuff like this doesn't bother me, nor do waiting periods.

What bothers me is that, again, as a Californian, I know that things like that are just the beginning. As an educated man, I know that states like mine are used as political laboratories to see what people will put up with and accept.

That tells me that Hillary is strongly anti-gun and will definitely curtail the 2nd Amendment. And guess what? The gun corporations won't give a shit because they'll still be able to sell .22LR plinkers and skeet shotguns and bolt action hunting rifles. They won't lose any business whatsoever. They'll still get weapons contracts with the US Government.

Hillary is going to fuck this country up. All we can do is logically explain the facts of reality as they are now and as reality will be under Clinton.

>>31624224
>Hillary is going to fuck this country up a lot less than Trump
FTFY

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>>31623000
>nothing that really matters will get banned
>just the "scary" looking shit.

>>31625027
>FTFY

Well thank you for correcting the record.

Your "fix" was blatantly untrue, btw.

>>31624224
>background checks
Already comprehensive. Only fails when enforcement of the system fails.
>gun show loophole
Exemption, not loop hole. Most people selling at gun shows are FFLs anyways
>waiting period
Will never save a life, only doom those who desperately and immediately need a gun

>>31626710
>Your "fix" was blatantly untrue, btw.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.

Trump is a garbage businessman (the only "qualification" he has), is a vocal proponent of and active participant of sexual assault, has stated that he'd have our military perform blatant, unilateral acts of war, and has no fucking clue how international relations and economics work. He's absolutely fucking horrible and will cause serious destruction if elected.

>>31624224
Man, there's a lot wrong with your post. Your general sentiment is right but you're right for the wrong reasons.

All you need to know is that there's a vacant supreme court seat and that Hillary said Heller (a 5-4 decision) was a mistake

>>31615111
Yes, my wife used to be this way until I explained it to her. She is still not a fan of guns but she respects my hobby and the obvious uses for a firearm.

>>31617717
Unlikely, and either way, Republicans would retake control in the next midterm.

Democrats are terrible at voting for midterms.

>>31627091
Yeah, but keep in mind that the current Congress for the last 4-6 years was GOP-controlled and accomplished nothing.

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>shills unironically believe anyone on /k/ would support Clinton

>>31627181
A GOP Congress's primary goal is obstruct everything the Democrat President tries.

"Accomplishing" something basically means giving in to what Democrats want.

And I would encourage obstruction, because the US was not designed to be majority rule. The states that end up not voting for Hillary, shouldn't have whatever she wants unilaterally forced onto them.

>>31624224
> As a Californian, stuff like this doesn't bother me, nor do waiting periods.
This is why people hate you fucks and tell you to stay in California.

>>31627203
Aside from a few people who do and think Trump is Hitler, no one really supports Hillary on /k/.

At this point, it's not even about supporting Hillary. It's recognizing reality; Trump is not winning this election.

>>31617376
>joices

joists nigga

>>31615381

Anywhere I can read in detail about the 2004 AWB ban renewal?

>>31627207
>"Accomplishing" something basically means giving in to what Democrats want.

>GOVERNMENT IS NO PLACE FOR DEBATE, COMPROMISE, OR REASONABILITY

>>31627203
The giant pile of old newspapers that is Hillary or the festering medical waste dump of Trump is our choice this year, and I'm not wading through rotting organs if I can help it.

>>31627567
>Giving up rights, including ones written into the Constitution, is comprise.

Kill yourself.

>>31615160
You understand that full auto weapons are INSANELY hard to get, right? After doing a ton of paperwork and jumping through ATF hoops, do you also have at least $15,000? The average AR that someone buys at Dick's Sporting Goods isn't full auto, nothing available to the average civilian is full auto unless they live in a state that allows it and have tens of thousands of dollars to spend on something in a limited registry that closed in 1986. Full auto weapons are not an issue in today's society. Case closed.

>>31627632
>Implying I was talking about bills about that kind of stuff
>And not shit like "We don't like the ACA that congress passed in the past, so we'll shut down the government in a tantrum to try to defund it" shit

>>31626790
>>31623000
Wow can you shills get anymore obvious

>>31626980
>All you need to know is that there's a vacant supreme court seat and that Hillary said Heller (a 5-4 decision) was a mistake

The guy literally said:

>>31624224
>That tells me that Hillary is strongly anti-gun and will definitely curtail the 2nd Amendment.

Lol. It's like you don't know what words mean and just wanted to a +1 in while simultaneously saying something negative.

>>31627674
Congress controls the purse, they're totally within their rights to refuse to fund anything they want, especially turds like the ACA.

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>>31614936
Underrated

>>31627686
>Nobody can have opinions different than my own!

Not your hugbox, yadda yadda, yadda.

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>>31624224
>as a californian
>as a californian
>as a californian
>as a educated man
>as a educated man
>as a identity politics faggot
>as a identity politics faggot

No one cares who you are. Stating that you live in California or that you're """educated""" doesn't strengthen the ethos of your opinion. For example, you stated that:
>gun corporations won't give a shit (about Hillary) because they'll still be able to sell .22LR plinkers and skeet shotguns and bolt action hunting rifles. They won't lose any business whatsoever. They'll still get weapons contracts with the US Government.
Loss of sales is loss of profit. The sunset of the Clinton AWB seeded the growth and propagation of hundreds of small businesses that catered to the suddenly available black scary rifles. The 2008 Obama scare and Sandy Hook Massacre cemented these small businesses as a multi-billion dollar domestic market. A new AWB or nullification of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act would wither, if not completely destroy the MSR market.

You're right in thinking Hillary will fuck this country up (implying that she wins), but it won't be because of her meddling with the domestic firearms market. She'll appoint SCOTUS judges that align with her pro-corporate, anti-liberty agenda. She'll reopen old wounds with Russia, thereby re-escalating the Cold War. She'll widen the wage gap by increasing taxes on the middle class, double down on obamacare, and ensure that America will remain in a quasi-war state for the rest of her term.

Do not give her an inch. Just because we have cancerous policies in California, doesn't mean allowing said policies to become malignant is acceptable. California is a pot of water on the stove, and its citizens are realizing the water is starting to boil.

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>>31628067

>>31626790
>active participant of sexual assault

yea, nah

personally I'm a fan of wheelguns and bolt rifles
>in other words I'm a complete faggot
but im still worried and gung-ho for standing up against gun legislation. I wouldn't panic buy tho, especially if it's firearms that wont even be impacted by the bans

>>31628219
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-groper-in-chief.html

>>31614546
Nice. Those were the two first guns I ever shot. First was 10/22 at a range, then the wing master squirrel hunting.

>>31615828
>all polls that aren't CNN show Trump winning every time a new poll is put up
wew lad

>>31628573
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
>So few Red win results

>>31628382
Where's all the women he's assaulted? Where's the court cases? Where's the lawsuits? All you have are words and no actions.

>>31628628
Get ready for some totally not fake lawsuits to come out towards him.

A few months ago a bunch of Jane Doe cases were filed against him, and a judge just happened to approve like 4 more yesterday when they usually won't do that on a Sunday.

They'll all get thrown out like the total bs they are in a month and a half, but they'll be around just to hound him during the final month of the election. Real when did you stop beating your wife tier bs.

>>31628628
>He's caught on film basically saying "Man I sure love groping unwilling bitches!"
>Supporters: "Durr where da proofs!?"

>>31628623
>all the polls are from clinton-supporting networks
Yep, no bias there whatsoever.

>>31628675
>Multiple Fox News, official propaganda station of the GOP, polls that come out with Clinton ahead
Get fucked.

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>>31628662

>>31628662
if you seriously think any woman wouldn't throw their panties at Donald trump for the money or just to be able to say they were with him, you are seriously mentally handicapped. get some help

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>>31627222
>At this point, it's not even about supporting Hillary. It's recognizing reality; Trump is not winning this election.
I like how hillary's been failing so hard these past few weeks ctr has had to switch tactics from "Hillary is the common sense candidate" to "Common sense means Hillary can't fail".

>>31614788


You're 18.

Get a job an move out. The military is always hiring.

Its probably best to buy ak pattern rifles from russia at this point. Even if Hillary doesn't ban ebil salt weapons she will probably try to make Russia an even bigger boogeyman and goodbye slavshit

>>31628712
Bill isn't in this election.

>>31628737
Donald Trump is and always has been a disgusting lump that only gold diggers like Ivana are into.

>>31628756
But his wife is and the way she treated the women her husband sexually assaulted goes against everything she's been preaching and attacking Trump for.

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>>31628707
>N-nuh uh! They're the propaganda of THOSE OTHER GUYS! Who aren't in bed with MY party! My party good! Other party bad! There's a difference between them!

>>31614788
Don't tell them what you buy.

>>31615584
>31615584
how fucking deep is your wall holy shit. Literally what is on the other side of that?

>>31628799
Knowing this it makes a lot more sense why polls from the big boys differ(and are so similar to each other) so largely from those outside the inner circle. The MSM networks have been showing a close race, but with Clinton always in the lead. Outsider polls almost always have Trump in the lead, but often by a very large margin.

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>>31615191
>hunting
want to kill an invasive species like boar and don't care about pelts? full auto is great
>>Target shooting
adds another aspect to the sport to keep things interesting
>>Personal defence
I don't know how you can even argue against this being an absolute yes
>>Collecting
see above

>>31628855
Another thing to consider: Don't look at the national average, look at the state polls. As someone who isn't a fan of Trump (sorry), I still see him winning through electoral college magic

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>>31615510
>fucking ASPL
>mfw I see all of these other scouts
>mfw when Eagle, Vigil, and SPL

>>31628746
It's not so much that Hillary's failing, but that Trump tape sealed the deal.

Everyone is against him now. It's over for him and his campaign.

Even if he miraculously wins, both parties will likely try to oust him.

>>31615263
christ this is the same reason why suppressors are banned, so people can't do 'clandestine assassinations with whisper quiet guns'

>>31630075
*restricted

>>31628855
>Outsider polls almost always have Trump in the lead, but often by a very large margin.
>Polls that interview people who wouldn't vote for Hillary anyways show Trump in the lead

>>31626790
>is a vocal proponent of and active participant of sexual assault
fuck off before I grab you by the pussy you dumb cunt

>>31630246
http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/10/10/13230346/donald-trump-locker-room-talk-chris-kluwe

>>31630260
I think one of your other ctr shill buddies already posted that link in the thread, try to keep up

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>>31629724
>At this point, it's not even about supporting Hillary.
>It's not so much that Hillary's failing
wtf i hate consistency now

Also could you at least make an attempt to not sound like you're being paid to do this?

>>31615357
Then get the a Vepr.
https://www.legionusa.com/ak-vepr-7.62x54r-rifle-23in-barrel.html

>>31615367
Gen Xers are the worst. According the the Pew Research Center, they are the only group that is not growing more pro gun. Millennials are actually the fastest growing pro gun generation.

http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/26/gun-rights-vs-gun-control/#generations

>>31630634
Does any store still have a Vepr in 7.62x39 with the walnut thumbhole stock and the 16.5" barrel?

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>>31614737
Duffy's gun room in Butler is pretty bro tier, so is 2a sales in Jessup, if you want a shotgun try Clyde's sport shop in halethorp. Clyde's is a bit fuddy but otherwise great.

>>31630665
Makes sense

Millennials were raised on Call of Duty and Battlefield. Gen X are just faggots I guess.

>>31614734
>So calm down. Hillary is NOT anti-second amendment
Thanks for correcting the record, faggot.

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>>31615951
kill yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9RG7NYQa8k

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>>31614734
>I wouldn't worry about it

>>31622186
Look at his poll numbers man, he's down by 14 points nationally, 14 points is fucking massive.

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>>31631239
you're not the only one who can cherry pick polls

>>31631872
>http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

>Trump caught parroting Russian disinfo propaganda

>>31631938
what the hell does that have to do with cherry picked polls?

>>31632021
>Huge metacollection of polls Show Hillary trending higher the more Trump opens his mouth
>Durr muh mainstream liez

>>31632150
you cherry picked one poll saying he's down fourteen points I cherry picked another showing him up four points. I didn't say anything about the mainstream media

>>31632240
See >>31628623

>>31632267
there are three hundred posts in this thread made by over one hundred people. assuming that I was involved in a conversation that's five hours old is just dumb

funny OP, im in the same boat, if Hillary wins i'm buying a handgun. fun times we live in, never thought i would be one of /those/ people but here we are

>>31632555
>if hillary wins
It will be too late then.
Everything will be out of stock and the only brands you can find will have shoddy reputation and priced 300% over MSRP

>>31629724
>Even if he miraculously wins, both parties will likely try to oust him.
>Even if he wins he loses.

Nice one CTR.