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Middle East Thread "Happy Birthday Mr. President EDITION"

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>Syrian Jihadists rebuff UN envoy proposal to leave Aleppo under escort.

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/567413-syria-opposition-calls-for-un-envoy-to-resign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecQPYoK0aAI
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Recent developments in Syria paid the Russian Defense Ministry to increase submitted to the Syrian army's military support.
The Russian Defense Ministry completed the development of military and political plans to counter the US threat of military intervention or an increase of support for terrorists.
- Russian army will be ready to meet the plan "B", as reported by Washington, including the risk of attack by terrorists of Russian bases in Syria, which will be more important for terrorists from attacking Syrian forces.
- Russian Defense will increase the Syrian army's weapons capabilities to confront the terrorists, the Syrians will deliver new aircraft and dozens of artillery pieces, and some of the self-propelled land systems and effectively confront the terrorists on the ground electronic.
- In addition to this, the Russian Defense Ministry already decided to increase the number and the momentum of the Russian Air Force in Syria so as to ensure air superiority in the event of a Western military intervention.
- Russian Defense Ministry in cooperation with the Syrian counterpart for the processing of new Academy graduating with Syrian officers and high efficiency to compensate for the shortfall because of the war, and raise the efficiency of the current officers of the middle class in the Army.
- Russian air defense systems and rocket ships that arrived to Syria recently will cool some hotheads in Washington.
- In case of necessity, the Russian forces are ready today to activate the no-fly zone "No fly zone" over the entire Syrian territory.
- Despite this, the Russian Defense Ministry ruled out by Washington's direct military intervention but frequent reports confirming their intention to provide the terrorists systems of air defense and anti-tank missiles in large quantities.
- The downing of a US aircraft in Syria will not lead to World War III, we've brought down the former US aircraft in Vietnam, Korea and other regions, and nothing happened.
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Breaking from a few hours ago of IS advancing on the silo checkpoint near eastern Palmyra. As Hama and Aleppo suck up the SAA and Shia militias IS are always the opportunists.
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We would sooner nuke the world before allowing a loss, or give up on something we wanted to do long time ago, like removing a butcher dictator.
Vatniks never learn.
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>>31589557
Map of said advance
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>>31589561
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>>31589561
yeah like in vietnam or in Somalia, and what happened in Benghazi?
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>>31589561
>We would sooner nuke the world before allowing a loss
Because that's literally what happened in Korea and Vietnam, yeah. Those plans of nuclear strikes on China and Vietnam totally worked out and US won.
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>>31589736
If we would have nuked the Gooks and Chinks when we had the chance things would be a whole lot different today. Hell should have just invaded the reds after WW2 and never have let communism flourish, but once again politicians ignore the words of war fighters.
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>>31589736
USA always wins :^)
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>>31589561
low energy b8 m8
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>>31589588
Mandic, I've never seen you post so much before. Putin BTFOing the U.S. (as usual) making you happy?
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-06/russia-upends-world-wheat-market-with-record-harvest-exports

Russia is now biggest wheat exporter in the world.

Meaning that China, who has heavily invested in Russian agriculture, is now independent from US wheat embargo in the event of war. China cant be blockaded anymore and starved to death, as many US Pentagon planners have had in mind for long time while designing ASB and Off-Shore Control.

China can now fully join the Russian war-effort against the US stooges, and even withstand a war with the US for forseeable time.
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WAHAHA, /k/ watch this shitshow !!!!

http://www.stern.de/

>DAT BUTTHURT
>Muh a Leppo
>MUH CHILLUNS

Its a popular german media page, that went on full rebel tears mode

Wahahah, FUCK WESTERN MEDIA

Ya Bashar.
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>>31590226

>stern.de/
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>>31590226
If a bomb kills a few of them, the better.

Also, why do still people live there? I thought thermobarics ignore cover?
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>>31589561

>butcher dictator
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>>31590226
>inb4 go to /pol/

Now this is really hilarious.

But Stern is a kinda low tier news magazine though.

>We journalists aren't allowed to be speechless
[...]
>How can we report the daily suffering
>What do our reports achieve
>Did we report enough about that topic?

>To the last question we have to say "No".
>No we didn't report enough
>blablabla [...]

>Today no news, only pics.
>Pics from Syria, from Aleppo

>Today its not about clicks etc, today its about to set a sign. Silent.
>To scream against the unbearable speechlessness... by letting it happen

Should be a rough but correct translation of the "important" parts

Yes, its that bad.

If the Assad army actually manages to re-capture all of Aleppo and things go back to normality there, i predict it will disappear from the media entirely because they will never admit that people will have it better then compared to now.
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>>31590226
i like how this newspapers fail to see that theese "freedom fighters" are bombarding thier own people too
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I said he had a finger, the wording was chosen on purpose. Mubarak, an US ally for decades, was still in power while Obama called for his resignation, with other European leaders following his example.
While the US did not decide the income, piling on against Mubarak and the military council sure didn't help.

>But his inaction, excluding the minimum a democratic leader is expected to say about a coup, to Sisi does indicate his preference
Preference for the Muslim brotherhood.

>In a dramatic shift toward a major Arab ally, the Obama administration announced a suspension of significant military aid to Egypt on Wednesday over the bloody crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/09/world/meast/us-egypt-aid/

Further indication of cutting ties:
>the Department of State ordered the departure of non-emergency US government personnel and family members from Egypt due to the ongoing political and social unrest.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/07/201373223029610370.html

The US was threatening sanctions:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-egypt-proetsts-saudi-idUSBRE97I0O020130819

And indeed put on sanctions on the Egyptian military, freezing ongoing deals and arms sales for 2 years. Hampering the ability of the mainly US based Egyptian military ability to operate.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2013/08/24/Egypt-and-the-limits-of-U-S-influence.html
https://www.rt.com/usa/245737-us-lifts-egypt-embargo/
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>>31590226
>AHAHAHA
>LAUGH WITH ME OR YOU ARE A SHILL
>EVERYONE KILLED IN SYRIA IS A TERRORIST
>THEY SAY SOMETHING I DONT LIKE, SO I SAY THEY ARE BUTTHURT
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>>31590310
The escape corridors for civilians in Aleppo are still open right?
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It took miley cyrus to shake her deflated ass to distract your from the fact that the russian stopped us from bombing assad.
'member?
Probably not, just like you dont remember the moderate terrorists using chemicals to blame assad and draw the USAF.
Today, most of you bluepilled vermin calling yourself americans, fail to realize or dont want to realize that the same people we are supporting in Syria are the ones that flew those jets into the buildings live on tv.
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>>31590331
>quick topic change on personal discussion compfy zone or it would be too obvious that it is true
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>>31590352
Its not a change of topic at all.

They cry how bad the situation of the few civilians left in the eastern part of that city is. And i agree, its pretty bad.
But they could leave. And they could have left weeks ago already. They choose to stay for whatever reason, so its their personal problem because the option to leave was there and maybe its still there.
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>>31589561
>Dictator

555-come-on-now
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>>31590331
Al Qaeda doesnt allow them. They need meat shields.
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>>31590388
But there are only moderates in Aleppo r-right?
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>>31590369
It is a change of topic since it isnt about the whine of western media anymore. All you are doing is topic hopping so you can infuse as much of your agenda into the discussion without coming to any conclusion. Rather standard shill or useful idiot tactic.
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>>31590399
I'm not even the guy that posted the "article". I was just curious if the corridors are still open. Because if they are, there is no reason to cry since the people could leave. If they don't leave they are either terrorists, terrorist supporters or hostages, in which case the terrorists are to blame for their situation.

So, are these corridors still open or not?
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>>31590413
>>31590388
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>>31590413
Then stop stumbling into other discussions for no reason beside trying to change the topic. You could have done your post without refering to the others, but obviously you were to insulted to let it stand.
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>>31590444
It was a related question you butthurt fuck.
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>>31590451
>you butthurt fuck.
What an relaxed and thoughtful response, you totaly doesnt seem to be
>butthurt
yourself or anything.
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>>31588584
>Although going against MB was in everyone interest, from Israelis, Europeans to Saudis.

May appear that way, yet the Europeans and Americans supported the Muslim brotherhood, in words and actions, as per my previous post.

>Also MB was not a real threat to Israel but it was a threat to Saudis.
False both in theory and in practice.
MB led Egypt was on the path to ally with Iran, moving towards a situation where Israel would face Iranian allies/enemies on two fronts, for the first time since the late 70's.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/9928.19.0.0/religion/islam/why-would-the-muslim-brotherhood-want-to-ally-with-shiite-iran

Implying that radical Islamists, who have preached war with Israel for nearly a century, controlling a well armed 90 million state on their border would not be a danger to Israel sounds pretty asinine to me.
In practice, the Muslim brotherhood was arming and supplying the Hamas.

The MB is a threat for the Saudis as well, this is the only correct part in your post.

>>31577393
Any amount constitutes a subsidy.
It's more than 1% too.

>>31589296
> the Syrians performed better in the fighting part, than the Egyptians.
Interesting, what makes you say so. Most I've talked to on the subject think that it's the other way around.

>But both got fucked in the end because of their rigid hierarchy structure, centralized decision making and slow response to a changing scenario, compared to the more decentralized chain of command and fast response of the Israelis.
The Israelis were also much much better trained and in many of the battles better motivated.

>>31589309
The Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and fight against the Syrian army there was pretty conventional, with both committing only limited resources.

>>31589343
>and the Syrians gazelles also performed very well too
Haven't heard of this, any idea on where can I read more on the subject?
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Russian Foreign Ministry: French draft resolution on Syria that includes positions are unacceptable ,
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>>31589567
Please oh please can they capture Palmyra (just for one day), the Vatnik butthurt would be immense, the Kremlin would be so humiliated and the SAA "special forces" would have to rush to the area to stop it, thus proving that Palmyra was nothing more than a propaganda battle and an unnecessary burden for the SAA.
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>>31590284
>things go back to normality there

Half the city is already in ruins, but yes things generally get better when you stop fighting.
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So the whole story between Jund Al-Aqsa and Ansar/mainline groups fighting each other in Idlib today is what everyone suspected it is. Jund is pro IS and finally boiled over into a full blown conflict similar to the IS affiliate group near Darra in the south.

This latest round of fighting between Jund and the main rebel groups is good news for the SAA in Hama as Jund had spread headed their advances there. No doubt the Hama front is in disarray. One rebel commander in pro rebel news outlet claims Jund was in fact trying to link up with IS held Hama and they would have really fucked them over if that happened since it would give IS a direct link into Idlib. I believe this is true since I long believed IS has important bases in rural Hama/ Homs and no doubt they were in contact with Jund after they had busted through Mann and other SAA strongpoints. Some of Jund are IS sleeper cells.

FSA rebels finally having to deal with the hypocrisy of fighting along side Al Qaeda and now Jund aka IS while pretending they are not Jihadist.
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>>31590962
If the silo checkpoint falls IS will be a serious threat on the city again. All those Iraq militia in Aleppo were originally tasked to breakout from the silos in a proposed SAA offensive. This went nowhere and now the Iraqis are in Aleppo. That means it's up to the Ruaf to bomb the shit out of IS in hopes of holding them back.
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>>31591025
I think Nusra needs to clap down on this brutally, this is their clay after all, gotta protect that Idlib Islamic statelet of theirs
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>>31591057
I look forward to the combat footage and butthurt threads before its retaken by SAA again, that is IF they are successful, I don't want to speak too soon
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>>31591025
Who cares about House of Cards or Game of Thrones, Syria Daily is the real deal.
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>>31591025
Arabs...
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>>31591130
I think it's that Jund al-Aqsa are just massive faggots

So while Nusra + moderate friends do all the heavy lifting and loosing on the battlefield, Jund just sits there plotting against them. Sad!
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>Make Dua for khat chewing brothers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EhE1lMBfr8
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>>31591183

well this is the kind of shit show you get when the opposition isnt a single unified force
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>>31591075
I look forward to your tears when Aleppo falls my jihadi friend. Explain to me if they manage to lose palmyra only for a very short time and then retake it how was retaking and holding it for a year a "propaganda battle"? You do realize it's the road to deir ezzor right? Which is pretty important to the SAA
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>>31591513
>when the opposition isnt a single unified force

That wouldn't be a problem if they could focus on major things frist and let their childish disputes rest for later.
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>>31591183
What moderate friends ahar al sham + the Chechens?? They're not moderate.
The only moderate group left in the north I can think of is the 13th brigade.

Jund al aqsa was one of the groups leading the Hama offensive bro
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>jewusa noderates

Ahrar Al Sham mission statement is the establishment of an ISLAMIC STATE in Syria.
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Are they still needing volunteers somewhere? My life is literally going nowhere and I feel like I'm getting old without having ever done anything.
Is the kurdish front still seeing some action every now and then or is the real fun in Allepo? Can speak Kurdistanian or Syrian arab but I heard they take every retard they can get. I just want out.
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>>31591111
The pro Jihadists accounts are furiously trying to do damage control by saying large parts of Jund al-Aqsa have split off from the pro IS faction as the fighting continues but we'll see. As Syria turns i'll catch up on the drama when the morning updates come.

If RU doesn't i'll try to lay out a good Aleppo update but it can be summed up with rebels fucked in some districts and holding fast in others. SAA and friends continue to close in on them. Rebels aren't done for yet either.
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>>31590413
Yes they are open but very few people have left. I have heard reports that some who have tried to leave were executed by the rebels but I've seen no proof (keep in mind I'm very pro SAA and I'm saying this) not that I would be surprised if proof came out. The fact remains that people aren't leaving for what ever reason
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>>31591642
The Chechen groups are pure Al Qaeda or else they would have already jumped ship to IS, they'll side with Nusra. It's going get real awkward between them and Jund al aqsa.
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>>31590226
>"freedom fighters"

Lel
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>>31591680
I heard that they are scared that SAA and friends would threat them as terrorists. Probably a mixture of a number of reasons.
Rebels can't allow a mass exodus because that would undermine their "we fight for the people"-narrative and rebel family members/friends might fear consequences.
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>>31591695
Read what I was responding to 5star, he said nusra and their moderate friends in the Hama offensive. There are no moderates in the Hama offensive
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>>31591025
>arabs
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>>31591703
The thing is Assad has lived up to his side of the bargain when he says you can leave you can leave but I can understand if people are hesitant about it. It hasn't gotten bad enough for them to take that deal yet
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>>31589398

So how do all of you worthless shits who were against Assad feel now that you are on the wrong side of history and human decency?

How long will you cling to the lie of a secular opposition and other such non-sense?
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>>31591727
Technically you are right , moderate is a relative term here. There are different levels of Jihadism.
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>>31591703
The SAA treated Daryaa and Zabadani as the peace treaties specified.
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>>31590530
>Interesting, what makes you say so. Most I've talked to on the subject think that it's the other way around.
As I said, the Egyptians excelled in the crossing of the canal, the military planning, with lots of creative ideas to help in various aspects of the operation, but of their fighting force, only the special units and commandos, who are the first to cross the canal, clean some emplacements and then positioning themselves to meet the armored Israeli response, did a work of worth. Out of the initial phase of Operation Badr, the rest of army done poorly.

I remember a interview with a Egyptian soldier, where he says that if they are to see the armored units crossing back the canal to the Egyptian side, as commander Saad El Shazly wanted, so they could fight the Israeli counter in their own terrain, where they would have the advantage, the soldiers would simply flee en mass back to their side too, even if they are still winning at this point.

In contrast, in the Syrian side, all their units, except the air force as always, fight stubbornly and commendable, be the conventional army armored and mechanized units, the Republican Guards armored brigades or the commandos units who took the mount Hermon and laid ambushes.

Syrians armored units took the heat, get blown away, have half of their mens burn to death, taking tremendous losses etc etc, but they didn't stop, they keep pushing as better they could, against a better trained and positioned enemy. And in the end, they almost did win the battle.

>Haven't heard of this, any idea on where can I read more on the subject?
http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=207&Itemid=0
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Newest south Aleppo map, SAA and friends gained ground in the north, and the captured a hill overlooking sheihk saeed in the south. See map
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>>31591666
Bumping for this.
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>>31590310

>SO I SAY THEY ARE BUTTHURT

but you are butthurt for sure
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>>31589398
I've always thought Ivan and friends were the good guys for a long time. Though what I was not expecting was for the US to become the bad guys so hard.
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FUCKING HAPPENING !!!

Ahrar al-Sham&FSA VS. Jund Al-Aqsa

Infighting between these groups is fucking awsome. Especially because Jund al-Aqsa and Ahrar al-Sham are one of the most effective groups in offensives, so weakening them eachother is a fucking win for everyone except rebels

Sauce:
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/
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>>31591740
you sure are a special kind of retarded m8
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>>31591740
They are threatening with ww3.
Their dogs are dying and losing.
We are responsible for deaths of their running dogs in Syria.
We killed more terrorists than the entire /k/ board, even the faggots that actually held a gun in their hands and were payed for it.
See how upset they are?
delete /k/
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>>31591666
Why cant you join the SAA, kurds are too dodgy right now.
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>>31592805
>They are threatening with ww3.

You must be challenged with reality, because this announcement is in response to US talks of re-considering air strikes.
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>>31593188
What, do they have english speaking units? Are they accepting volunteers, haven't heard that before. Aleppo might be more of a meatgrinder than chilling in some Kurdistan village on the front.

Have you heard of anyone who joined the SAA?
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>>31593238
>>31593188

SAA/NDF is only taking syrian citizens.
You'd have to join one of the various pro-assad militias.
Good luck finding a somewhat competent one that also takes western (i assume) volunteers even if you speak arabic.
You might have better chances if you were from russia i guess.

A few years ago i read an article about a greek neo nazi group operating in the latakia area though, that might be a first step to look into.
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>>31589398
>tfw share birthday with Putin

Feels good. That means his parents and my parents shagged on New Year's. There's a reason why so many people are born in early October.
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>>31593298
What about the YPG or lions of Rojava or something like that. They still got stuff going on, or is it just infested with Turks now?

I've also heard of various Eastern/Orthodox factions, but I don't know whether they're actually fighting.
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>>31593298
>>31593298
What about the YPG/lions of rajova or something? Stuff still happening there?
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>>31593238
do you speak russian? Ask him.
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>>31591740
>assad
>human decency
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>>31593338
I think they are mostly guarding their villages/towns.
Same problem though: why should they accept a western volunteer? Its not like you share their religion.
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>>31593515
Yeah I guess not.
I've seen some footage of Westerners active in Syria though.
>>31593456
Who diss??
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>>31593564
a russian "journalist" who apparently also posted on a russian imageboard. At least thats what i read on KCs /int/ board a while ago.

>I've seen some footage of Westerners active in Syria though.

Working/fighting for which side? Kurds? Sure.
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>>31593596
Yeah, Kurds. Even a couple of interviews on vice. A fat 19 yr old Canadian with a pump action AK, and some antifa fag.
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>>31593642
then find these guys on twitter and ask them i guess.
Kurds seem not to care from where you come if you are a commie..
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Hey /k. I am coming from /his and I would like to ask how deeply are now russians involved in combat proveness of the Syrian Army.
I find it interesting how did the Pro-government forces increased their capabilities [after a year, they finally realised that using infantry with tanks is a good idea.].
Also, do you think that the Russian Military use this conflict in the same way the Nazi Germany trained in Spanish Civil War?
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>>31593950
All key operations are supervised by Iranian and or Russian officers and "advisors" at this point. The russians have their own air observers too.

Some of the recent major advances in Aleppo happened just after it was rumored that 1000+ russian "advisors" arrived (official statement was they guard humanitarian aid distribution)

>Also, do you think that the Russian Military use this conflict in the same way the Nazi Germany trained in Spanish Civil War?

Ofc.
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>>31593984
I mean. I read somewhere that they use old FAB-250 and FAB-500kg bombs.
>precision bombing
Is Syrian conflict even pricey for the Russians? I mean due to sanctions, they must have shitloads of surplus fuels and nothing stops them from using WW2 tier ammo from storages.
I just find it interesting how a myth about ''professional'' rusky army is slowly being abolished.
Also, as Slovak, I feel bad for being a cuck and actually getting dosh from selling weapons to ISIS
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>>31594061
whenever you hear "barrel bomb" these days you can assume its just a regular FAB they drop from something that can fly.

The use of actual makeshift exploding barrels should be next to zero at this point.
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>>31594091
I mean... production of FABs cannot be that different from making barrel bombs, right? Considering the difficulty of producing ones.
Also, what is the stage of Syrian weapons production right now? Just GLA-tier meme weapons, or they can pull out soviet-standard small arms, munitions and vehicles?
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>>31594091
I think they stopped making barrel bombs as soon as the russians arrived.
Can you just imagine the soviet stockpile?
Most of the bombs and rockets had to be doused with gallons of anti-rust chemicals.
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>>31594139
>Can you just imagine the soviet stockpile?
Not him, but no. Does Russia just have a massive storage of cold war era weaponry?
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>>31593206
Airstrikes against whom?
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>>31594139
Why? Extra effect from tetanus, right guys? :^)
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>>31594118
>right now?

No idea. Before the war they could build scud rockets by themselves.
But i think they don't have to bother at this point besides some tank upgrades done in the field (cage armor and stuff like that) because of what this Anon (>>31594139) says.. the russians are happy to send them all their old stuff they have hoarded during the cold war.

>I think they stopped making barrel bombs as soon as the russians arrived.

I agree. Why bother with explosives and barrels to make a somewhat working bomb when there is an indefinite supply of real ones.

>>31594166
You think they threw it away?
But even if they don't have huge piles of bombs waiting for the Syrians to request them.. russian factories are happy to provide everything Assad could wish for (and Iran probably pays half the bill)
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>>31594166
Do bears shit in the woods?
Look at their armor reserves for fucks sake, BMP1, Shilka's, t64's, fucking mosins and maxims, legendary old ass migs, BDRM's, you name it. All in thousands (half of them are for parts).
Just imagine how much ammo, bombs and grenades they still have.
Or take a look at early ukraine war. Remeber the seps with PTRD and PTRS's?
There are weapon caches all over russia, deep underground or stuffed inside an old warehouse.
I think it has something to do with their defense doctrine, if they get invaded or something, have the main forces, the professional soldiers back, preparing and training more recruits and leave other areas with a simple order to defend themselves with old 60s and 70s shit long enough for the real army to show up.
Like in the US, local militias already have AR15s at home and all the tacticool shit, but a russian town or a cluster of villages gets to open up an old stockpile of ak's, rpg's, tanks, ww2 howitzers and anti tank cannons and a few cossacks or whatever lunatics are sent to command the units.
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>>31594214
I used to hate you for being a /pol/tard putinbot shill. Actually, shills hide the fact that they are shilling but not you.
Now i hate you even more, because you were rig...
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>>31594269
Neat, I thought it had all been used up by now. I'm not American but you guys must be really salty about the import ban.

Does the US has anything like that, or does it just dispose of older material?
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>>31594302
No sane country does "just dispose" older material.
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>>31594302
Would you have the heart to take a wrench or a heavy power tool and harm a BDRM 2 just because the Soviet Union is dead or some other shit?
Its almost brand new, driven once and its there, in front of you, no jew gave it a ride to africa to be used in wars there, it was only test driven, and its looking at you, with those sad eyes, sad because it didnt get to do anything it was made to do.
Could you do it?
Yeah well, russians have a heart too. They couldnt do it. Then they decided to keep all of them. And everything with hope that it will all get adopted or bought.
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>>31594180
That would count as a chemical attack, thats wrong.
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Requesting ban of poltards or closing this threads, atm they are useless.
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>>31594687

Requesting you to leave, terrorist scum.
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>>31594293
that's exactly what a /pol/ tard would say
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>>31594706
>he's not a poltard
>must be terrorist scum
nice conclusion shitlord
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>>31593462

>Killing religious fundamentalists.

He should literally be awarded a Nobel prize.
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>>31594214

Wow, how convenient for this to come up, right at this time, when Trump is on the cusp of winning, Russians are on the cusp of ejecting America out of Syria etc.

What a total coincidence.
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>>31595643
so all civilians remaining in syria are terrorists then?
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>>31595848
Part of the game, if you dont declare everyone a terrorist and ridicule warcrimes, you simply cant circlejerk so easily Assad.
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>>31591642
Jesus Christ was being sarcastic
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>>31591584
First: This war is entertainment for me, pure and simple.
Second: I never said I wanted the SAA to loose Palmyra forever, but just long enough to show what a stupid battle it was in the first place.
Third: You're delusional if you think the SAA can march back into Deir any time soon, if at all over the coming years.
Fourth: I give Aleppo before the end of the year to fall or largely be secured by the SAA, and there won't be any tears on my part as the rebels will become completely directionless after that with nowhere to launch meaningful offensives. Wouldn't you agree?
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Two things, for Idlib/Hama and Aleppo, in this order.

Still almost 10 hours old news about the Sham vs Aqsa episode, but that I think should be reported to illustrate the situation; more than 16 rebel groups sided with Sham, some even taking part in fighting Jund al Aqsa, who was expulsed from some four or more of their own bases. Jund al Aqsa is with no friends over the situation. Sham even acussed Aqsa of executing 20 of their fighters, and there is some graphic photos to back the claim.

7 hours ago, there are reports that a meet was arranged, supposedly by exNusra, between Ahrar al Sham and Jund al Aqsa, so they could resolve their diferences. No visible results until now.

In Aleppo, also some 10 hours old news, the Rebels claim that they retook all points lost inside of Sheick Saeed, and that they took some iraqi shia militias/Quds as prisoners, to what they have both photos and videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEAXcD6LReM

https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/784394873227051008

https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/784332562189520897
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>>31592266
Hmmm this is how the caliphates ended
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>>31594061
I read that their operations are $15-20 million a day.
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>>31595848
Would you argue that the nuclear bombings of Japan were war crimes because they were aimed at civilians?
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>>31598579
>claim that they retook all points lost inside of Sheick Saeed,

Unlikely
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There is also something going on right now in Northern Hama; Ivan is claiming that the SAA and Tige Forces have regained some positions.
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>>31598579
What are the monkeys babbling about? Just trying to make a fool out of the captured shia?
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>>31598722
Any updated maps on Aleppo? Are the rebels finally making some moves in the city?

Seems like the North and East are falling quicker than the West and South.
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>>31598178
Nice! I love those BRDMs, and with the climbing wheels down too
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>>31598722
Might as well take advantage of the infighting, although we are yet to see how far it goes
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>>31598772
Latest map on Aleppo is this one from peto lucem, some 15 hours old already.
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ANNA News report from Handarat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ur0MlKSCw
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>>31598722
Lmao kill yourself Vatnik, ASSad is getting rekt in Hama, no matter what your vatnik sources say
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>>31599362
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>>31599362
>ASSad is getting rekt in Hama

Not really, the offensive has basically stalled (as it would eventually) and the infighting (if it persists) will make the situation even worse, the rebels may even loose some of their gains.

A common theme throughout this war is that the SAA is eventually able to counter-attack and take back territory (not implying they'll reverse everything here).
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>>31599362
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>>31599362
Been a while since we had a real loud jihadi cheerleader in the threads, funny normally they come in when the jahadists are doing well
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>>31598178
wewlad, look at those rusty things. No wonder Assad has had so many nakbas.
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>/pol/ constantly talks about how based Assad is
>sand nigger who constantly requires foreign powers to directly intervene to save him
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>>31600058
cause even stronger foreign powers be fucking with his shit
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Supposedly, Russian defense min Shogyu secretly met with the Israeli Chief of Staff Eisenkot last month to discuss security coordination.

If true, it would make high-level Israeli-Russian official meetings in the dozens in 2016. This comes as despite his isolation with the West, Putin met with Netanyahu a whopping six times this year (more than any other world leader). Mossad also established a permanent hotline in the headquarters of SVRRF the for the first time this year as well.

What are they planning
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>>31600143
It's like clockwork. First the phillipeans and now maybe Israel? Jesus fuck we are losing friends fast.
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>>31600143
Greatest Ally Israel working with Worst Ally Russia, now where's our F-35s goyim?
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>>31600184
>Jesus fuck we are losing friends fast.

Do not mistake Kremlin political theater for reality. A lot of these states are salty at us for reasons nothing to do with Vlad's Failing Russia, so they are sending signals to Washington I would presume.
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>>31600184
Relations countries has worsened ties with:
>Israel
>Philippines
>Japan
>South Korea
>Czech Republic
>Poland
>Hungary
>Saudi Arabia
>Egypt
>Uganda
>Honduras
>Turkey (this probably couldn't be helped, though)

Countries Obama has improved ties with:
>Iran
>Cuba

wewlad
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>>31600222
But most of these decisions come from the failings of the us yes?

It's only a matter of time till all the world is against us.
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>>31599484
>>31599891
>>31599971
>>31600032
LMAO LOOKS LIKE THE VATNIK INTERNET DEFENCW FORCE IS OUT IN FULL FORCE!

Fuck off, vatniks like you aren't welcome here.
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>>31600382
Israeli here
The only westerners we actually like are the Americans. We are ambivalent with most others and hate the Nordics.

Whatever the leaders do, this alliance runs deeper than them.
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>>31600683
What do you think of Anglos (Brits, Aussies, etc.)
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>>31600683
With Jews we win.

<3
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>>31600723
Indifference from what I've seen. Israeli's hate muslims and leftist Europeans, like Americans (but not Obama/Democrats), have a love-hate with Russia, and dont care about everyone else
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Apparently Al-Hamah surrendered to the SAA.

How big was this pocket? How many surrendered? Are there any details about this?
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>>31600773
I can safely say that Russia is simply playing you off against the US. Whenever there is friction between US allies, Russia, under The Putin at least, steps in to create friction or to create the illusion of friction.

Russia still has Cold War mindset unfortunately.
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>>31596868
>You're delusional if you think the SAA can march back into Deir any time soon, if at all over the coming years.
Uhm yeah.. So if Aleppo falls why wouldn't they try another push for deir? That place can't stand on its own forever and I guarantee you Isis will throw men at it until they are driven into the ground, so they kinda have to make another try or two in the coming year. Why would they have more trouble after Aleppo falls? Isis is getting weaker the longer things go on
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>>31601141
And the FSA in the north lost 2 villages to Isis during a night attack. Apparently they are trying to counter attack Isis as of an hour ago
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USA wanting to be friend with Israel?

What the fuck is going here?

Are you all mad?
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>>31601230
I don't think it's anything to do with Israel specifically. More about maintaining allies and international standing, see >>31600230

I would have added the UK to the list, threatening to send the UK to the back of the line should the people dare to choose their own fate against the will of internationalists... probably didn't do much for relations.
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>>31601257
Fuck you, Israel is a violent state that has destabilized the Middle east.

If you want a ME friend, it is better to stick with Iran - Syria - Iraq trio.
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>>31600058
>wahhabism
>not a foreign power

Pick one.
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>>31600058
calling for help in desperate times is nothing to be ashamed of desu.
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>>31601268
oh, look a fanboy drooling over his favorite team.
such an emotional bunch, I wish you'd all go back to watching soccer or football.
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>>31601391
This is how real life works.

Pick a side or die alone.
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>>31601268
>Israel is a violent state that has destabilized the Middle east.
Lol, they're the ones who got attacked by Arab coalitions.
Thrice.
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>>31598944
what are the red bits. Bases?
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>>31600393
Looks like the retardation ALL CAPS ad hominem team is out in full force

Do us a favor, just fuck off and let the adults talk
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>>31601461
That means everybody fucking hate them.
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>>31601475
>everybody

Just Arabs/Muslims.
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>mfw jihadist enabler tears in this thread
feelsgoodman
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>>31601481
Which is everybody in the fucking region.

Even a good portion of Hezbollah is composed of christians.
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>>31601487
>Which is everybody in the fucking region.
The same region that is currently backwards as shit and regressing further.
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>>31601491
And? It is the job for the jews to make the Middle east "progressive" in spite of everybody else?
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>>31601503
> It is the job for the jews to make the Middle east "progressive"?

No, just Israel.
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>>31601508
Then Israel deserves to be wiped out of the map, with my consent.
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>>31601515
Israel deserves to be wiped off the map for trying to run their own country their own way?
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>>31601458
You pick a side that chants for your death, and are antithetical to western culture to boot (the ISLAMIC republic of Iran). They believe in an Islamic world hegemony no less than their Sunni brethren.

Oh yeah, teach me more of your wisdom.

>>31601487
>Even a good portion of Hezbollah is composed of christians.
Not that retardation again.
No it is not.
Hezbllah is an Islamist organization.
Their name is literally party of god.
Their armed wing is named: The Jihad council.
Literally.

In the document the founders of Hezballah published as they founded the organization, it was written:
>Allah has made it intolerable for Muslims to participate in ... a regime which is not predicated upon the Sharia

You're thinking of a separate organization that Hezballah created to allow Christians Druze and Sunnis to fight alongside them, since non Shia are not allowed in Hezbollah.
>Lebanese Resistance Brigades
It numbers about 200-250, with only some of them being Christians.
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>>31601532
>Not that retardation again.

And yet there are christian members.

They are way more a nationalist organization than they are islamists
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>>31601537
>Hezb Allah
>nationalist

Is that why they're in Syria?
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>>31601547
Nationalists aren't allowed to leave their country now?
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>>31601551
>fight in foreign country to support foreign ruler
>"nationalist"

That's not how nationalism works.
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>>31601532
The syrian, the iranian, the iraqi actually fought against islamics until you jew and saud fund them.

The jig is up.
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>>31601547
To protect their allies, Assad.

Anything wrong with nationalist helping nationalist?
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>>31601554
nationalists aren't allowed to leave their country and aren't allowed to honor alliances.. right. How stupid are you?
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>>31601559
>>31601562
The second you're fighting abroad to support foreigners, your motives are no longer nationalistic.

The reason they're in Syria is to support their fellow Shiites.
In case you didn't know, Hezbollah is a Shiite organization.
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>>31601573
>The reason they're in Syria is to support their fellow Shiites.

So? Assad/Iran supported them in the past, they return the favor now.. that is normal behavior in an alliance.

Besides, its 100% in lebanese interest that syria remains Assad-clay because they get supplies from there and having a friendly dictator as neighbor is better than Al Quaida/IS as neighbor.

Their involvement isn't motivated by religion.
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>>31601582
>So?
Hey, I have no problem with Hezbollah helping Assad.

Just don't try to pretend Hezbollah is "more nationalistic than Islamist".
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>>31601590
But they are. Parts of their organization is motivated by religion for sure, their military branch isn't (which does obviously not mean there aren't fighters which are very religious too).

Their reasons for being in Syria are purely political though.
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>>31601595
>But they are.
You're an idiot.
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>>31601613
Now you convinced me.
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>>31601616
I don't have to convince you that 2+2=4
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>>31601595
>>31601562
>>31601559
>>31601551
>>31601537
>Hezbollah is more nationalist than religious

"Hezbollah" means "party of Allah" and not "party of Lebanon".
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>>31601487
>Even a good portion of Hezbollah is composed of christians.


No it isn't. It's completely Shia Muslim. The Christians in Lebanon have their own militias.
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>>31601268
Fuck off sand nigger.
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>>31601632
And the Holy roman empire was literally holy...
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>>31601656
This discussion isn't about whether HRE was more religious than nationalist.
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SAA allegedly taking back positions in North Hama, mostly in that rebel bridgehead to the East.
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>>31601467
Yep.
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Aside from from the SAA recapturing positions in Northern Hama, morning reports are that ISIS also recaptured Akhtarin and Aziziyah from the Turkish backed Rebels, in North Aleppo.

The ride never fucking end in North Aleppo.
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>>31601537
>And yet there are christian members.

As I pointed out.
No
There are no Christian members.
They went to the trouble of creating a seperate organization, OUTSIDE of Hezballah, to cooperate with Christians.
Because
Christians are not allowed in Hezballah
Which is an Islamist organization.

>They are way more a nationalist organization than they are islamists

Yeah, that's why their armed wing is called the Jihad council and they themselves state that they cannot acknowledge a regime that is not governed by Sharia.

Perhaps they are Iranian nationalists, was that your intention?
Makes sense as their declarations states that:
>It listed the Ayatollah Khomeini as the leader whose "orders we obey"

But then, I can shower you with facts, take you to their villages and show you. But you will not see.
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>>31601595
>Parts of their organization is motivated by religion for sure, their military branch isn't

Which is why they are named the Jihad council.
To make it abundantly clear they are not Jihadists.
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>>31601914
see >>31601656

Names mean nothing silly
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>>31601920
See >>31601676

Utterly flawed argument.
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>>31601931
It is called example. People use it in discussions. Apparently you are unaware of this practice.
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>>31601938
And the use of the example is flawed.

There is no discussion itt on whether HRE was more nationalist than religious.

Hezbollah is more religious than nationalist, and the very name of the organization supports that.
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>>31601920
Name mean a lot, silly.
Especially self appointed names.
It clearly shows the intention of the group. No seculars would name themselves Jihadists, unless in a mock effort.

But it's more than that, Hezballah has declared that Khomeini was their leader, which they must obey.
Swearing allegiance to Iran kind of puts wholes in your nonsense that they are Lebanese nationals.
If that is not enough, the fact that they exclude any but Shia from joining Hezballah should make it clear to any with a functioning brain that they are not a Lebanese organization but rather a Shia one.

Not even going to go to their ideology, which heavily relies on Sharia.
^as I said, Islamists.

You're so deep in denial it's not even funny. Any Hezballah member would tell you this himself.
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>>31601944
>Hezbollah is more religious than nationalist

Prove it then. And no, the name alone is no prove at all. People use "cool" or "useful" names all the time, but if they don't act acording to their name it won't make the name come true.

All the "lion" units operating in the area aren't real lions.. or would you claim otherwise because their name suggests it?
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>>31601957
>Prove it then.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Hezbollah

Start here.
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>>31601967
>wikiwand

lel
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>>31601970
I want a black background.
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>>31600773
Oh so you're a hivemind?
Fucking space alien kikes
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>>31601257
Yeah I think obama hates the UK for some reason, I think he had family during the mao mao rebellion
Threatening them was fucking dumb, they're one of our closest allies since ww2 and a nation we're tied to
Did he improve our standings with the french?
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>>31602068
He improved his standing with the globalist elites.
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>>31595643
Give him the Nobel Prize in chemistry
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>>31602068
>Did he improve our standings with the french?
All in all my guess would be yes.
Based on the US support in the Libyan operation and later in the Mali operation.

Furthermore, the US and France worked closely together on the Iran deal and seem to see eye to eye when it comes to Syria.
Or Russia really, with the French canceling the sale of Heli carriers to Russia as the Russians countered the CIA move in the Ukraine.
I'm talking about the government level of course.

But I wouldn't be the best person to ask
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>>31601482
makes me moist
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>>31601825
>even turkish support can't save the rebels
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>>31601908
Tbf, they are more nationalist and less jihadist than most of the rebels in Syria.
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>>31602557
Most people know that Obama didn't want us to intervene in Libya or Mali. That was Hillary's voice and power.

The French only ended the Mistral deal after the Mh-17 shootdown. Furthermore, they almost did not end it.

The reason they worked on Iran was because France was always the main purchaser of their oil.

It was less Obama and more other circumstances.
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>>31602615
How much support is there these days?

Are turks still support them with tanks? Or is it just a few air- and artillery-strikes here and there?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdXwZAGELoI
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Just be grateful you fuckers cause when the US gets a real leader in power not just these milk toast wannabes. Then this shit will get interesting.
If I was in power we'd have orbital weapons by the end of my first year.
The US would be raining freedom on all of you. Freedom from your mortal coil that is.
So thank whatever god you worship that the US has never put anyone truly psychotic in office. Yet anyway!
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>>31603005
Weapons on space are prohibited by a treaty that encompasses the majority of countries on the globe.
If you put something like that there it would only be a matter of time before a russian or Chinese missile blows it to pieces. And rightfully so.
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>>31603005
Holy shit, I can't tell if you're being ironic or not, but neocon fucks need to die already. Thank god that Trump and the alt-right are taking over.
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Step map of Al Quds/SAA taking the Owij district in Aleppo. Video is rebels blowing up a booby trapped building with claimed pro SAA forces inside in sieged Aleppo. This is tried a true urban warfare tactic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4pD2gVRQRU
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Redpill me what is habbening now? Assad gaining power?
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>>31603211
He wins.. very slowly.
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>>31602683
Only the second part of your sentence is correct.
Hezballah are a foreign agent in Lebanon, it's not me saying this but Lebanese politicians from all over.
Even AMAL (a Lebanese Shia organization) called them out at some point for this.
Their loyalties lie in Tehran, not Beirut.

>>31602716
>Most people know that
While it's possible your correct, your phrasing makes it worthless.
Most people knew that earth was flat...
I know a boring example. But true.

>The French only ended the Mistral deal after the Mh-17 shootdown.
I don't recall the French ever connecting the incidents to the embargo. In fact they were discussing ending the deal as early as March. Moreover they did not end the deal as the plane was shot down but a few months later. Unclear why you chose to connect these events.

>they almost did not end it.
That's speculation.

>The reason they worked on Iran was because France was always the main purchaser of their oil.
No. France was definitely not in the top 5, possibly in the top 10.
Main purchasers of oil were: China, India, Japan, SK and Turkey.
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>>31603234
>Most people knew that earth was flat
Not really, some people throughout history assumed, but it's a stupid fucking meme when it gets applied to everyone in the past
We have a way of spitting on those that came before to make us seem better on the pedestal
Like the early modern era trashing the middle ages to the point where 'dark ages' bullshit was ingrained into generations even today
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Map of SAA re gaining many of the villages Jund took in rural Hama today with claimed fighting on the outskirts of Maan as Jund is in a full scale war with other rebel groups in Idlib.
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>>31603283
I should mention there has been heavy fighting ongoing all day in rural Daara between rebels and the SAA with at least SAA 3 armored vehicles destroyed, heavy SAA shelling and rebel counter shelling. They are fighting over a old abandon air defense base.

This is a new escalation of fighting in the south that has been simmering for the past week.
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>>31603346
http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=51925
SOHR has the full story. It's a military base near Abtaa town and fighting in Dael too. This is the first time southern front has been active in a while.
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Lastly Saudi fighter bombers have caused massive civilian death tolls in Saana with up to 155 killed in a funnel hall including the mayor of the city. You have to hand to the Saudis , when they fuck up they fuck up big time! The State dept can't whine about Russian war crimes when the Saudis just did worse. Again nobody is innocent.

https://twitter.com/YemenPostNews/status/784783619093098500
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>>31603283
>>31603209
Damn, Assad is on fire.
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>>31603639
This is some random source I found on a video of the Sanaa airstrike. It looks like a targeted strike on one building.

https://twitter.com/abdulmalikaltha/status/784798779174166532
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Why doesnt the SAA use the tromo-barbaric ordinance when clearing buildings?
Thats how the russians cleaned up Grozny. You dont have to risk 5 soldiers lives in tight rooms and buildings, just fire 1 or 9 tromo-barbaric shells from a shmel and scrape the burning remains.
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>>31603817

>Dat double tap

is there any doubt, this was a targeted strike?
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>>31603639
>>31603817
what makes you say it was a fuck up?

Saudi's told me yesterday their were militants there :)
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>>31604241
SAA has such an history of leaving stuff behind that russia is probably not cool with giving away thermobaric launchers which could be used against them
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>>31603817
I guarantee whichever sandnigger side wins, when this is all over they'll want reparations from USA for their bombs destroying all their cities
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>>31604467
You have a point. Some of the killed were Sanaa political leaders. I guess you could consider them militant leaders from the Saudi point of view.

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/784816764244942848
Update is the red cross sending 300 body bags to assist in the clean up.
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>>31604949
>the funeral was being held for the father of a interior minster
So much irony , death at a funeral.
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>>31590265
>>31590378
I assume he's talking about Assad. Is he not a dictator? After all, the Syrian revolution started because people were so fed up with his shit. And before the FSA was cucked they were just a regular popular resistance army. The US may be wrong in their reasons for taking out Assad, but that doesn't mean he's worth supporting or a good leader.
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>>31604470
They have flamethrowers though.
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>>31598679
Yes, moron. And it's funny how you accept that and also these crimes. Shows how little humanity you have.
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>>31605150
>Japanese empire has killed literally tens of millions of innocent people in mainland Asia
>complain about the thing that put an end to the Japanese empire

Some people are just sick fucks. These are the same people who cut weapons shipments to South Vietnam and got hundreds of thousands of people killed in reeducation camps because virtue signalling is more important than innocent life.
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>>31605128
The thought of 'spray anywhere that may or may not be the general direction of the enemy' retards with flamethrowers is about as attractive as an unarmed paradrop into Raqqa whilst wearing a stars and stripes leotard.
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>>31605182
Right, and that justifies the killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians somehow. And I never defended the Japanese empire anyway. We're talking about people, not politics.
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>>31603211
The many groups fighting in Syria slowly bleed the country white and destroy anything of value while being supplied by foreigners.
If Assad wins, he will be fighting guerillas and terrorists in a war torn hellscape for the next 25 years, with US and Turkey against him.
If peaceful jihadis beat Assad, they'll immediately begin fighting each other and the war will continue while the international community writes letters expressing their "grave concern".
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>>31604241
Why is Tromo barbaric?
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>>31605204
>We're talking about people

People die. Get over it.
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>>31595848

Strange how he doesn't indiscriminately murder the 85% of civilians that live peacefully within cities and towns controlled by the Syrian Assad government.

Why does the bad man Assad not just murder every civilian? Why doesn't he just personally grab a Kalashnikov and spray down people in Damascus from his dictator castle?

Talking to you Neo-Con dick-sucks is like talking to little babby-brain toddlers.
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>>31605481
Nice argument, sicko.
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>>31605640
>sicko

Ever cared to check on what website you currently post?
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CHECHEN UPDATE:
New Ajnad Al-Kavkaz video. Most of it is a interview with their military leader but the end has their training.

At 6:10m one of them has a full auto glock? I think, berry nice. I wonder what they are up to as Jund and Ahasr/FSA have gone to war with each other?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wna9rMH_qpk
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>>31605800

Any good footage of them losing body parts?
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https://twitter.com/RamiAILoIah/status/784861929412190208
>Historical moment tonight.. Russians rejected the western UNSC resolushit. Time to clean Aleppo and bring #Syria back..

Rami has lost it on twitter. HA , I'm done for a few. This is too funny if you know how much of ridiculous IS fanboy he is.
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I love how vatniks/poltards apply the exact same double standard they claim to denounce from the west.

>Assad is a gentle leader that always faced only the barbaric Islamic state from the beggining.
>any claim that he has been committing war crimes or atrocities is invented by american shills, he respects human rights and only use tickling as interrogation method. Unlike american swines in Guantanamo.
>speaking of american look how they bombed a school by mistake. No the dozen of hospitals deliberately targeted by SAA and RuAF never existed or were suicide bombed by jihad.
>any group that help us are only pure nationalist willing to respect their alliance for democracy against barbary, and have nothing to do with religious matter.
>any person opposed to Assad or Putin in the region is a jihadist funded by Saudi Arabia.

The world isn't black or white. Even if Assad is currently the lesser of various evil and the best guarantee for stability in the future, there's no denying he isn't perfect. Also he deliberately eliminated any embryo of laic rebellion exactly because he wanted to impose himself as the o my alternative to jihad.
Hezbollah and the guardian of the Islamic revolution from Iran are religious movements and are only involved because of the Sunni/Chia rivalry. They are allied of Assad because of religious motives, deal with it. And the Iranian Islamic revolution with its ayatollah is a an Islamic theocracy ffs.

So stop the hipocrisy and the bad faith attack. Your champion isn't perfect, nobody is, the Syrian situation is a clusterfuck and pretty much everybody involved are psychopath or assholes. The fact that the Russian army is the most moderate force in presence days a lot about this theater of operation.
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>>31606582
you realize you're combining about 5 different people's posts in 5 lines, right?
I know Assad will kill t he fuck out of any opposition once he's back on top. That's fine, they're just muslims. As long as they're stable and not exporting their barbarians to the West.
therefore, I must support Russia and Assad.
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>>31606568
Rami praising russians? Is this real life?
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>>31606631

GRU got him in Dubai.
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>>31605321
How many times we gotta tell you all the cities assads been holding are fine Aleppo is wrecked, and some areas of ghouta but the whole country doesn't look like rebel held Aleppo. Even government held Aleppo is ok
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>>31608221
Huh, it's amazing what happens when one side doesn't trash a city trying to get the enemy out...
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>>31603234
>your phrasing makes it worthless.

How so? It is widely known that Obama was against going in.

>I don't recall the French ever connecting the incidents to the embargo.
Then you are ignorant.
They started debating it in March, but the decision to end the deal was AFTER the shootdown of mh-17.
Hence, literally what I said.

>That's speculation.
And your claims that France loves America now are speculation as well.

>No. France was definitely not in the top 5, possibly in the top 10.
2011 figures show them as top 10.

Notice today's figures
[Fucking 4chan thinks my source is spam].
France is the main European purchaser of Iranian oil in 2016. The 2011 sanctions exempted China and parts of Asia. Mainly Europe was hit hard.
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>>31601503
how come jews in the US pass the most liberal policy possible, but in israel they have job protection and israeli first doctrine?

how come the united states gets shit on?
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>>31603639
>more dead arabs

Just as planned
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get fukt moderates, here comes the Russian hammer.
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>>31605045
Depends

What is your definition of "dictator"?
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>>31605150
>Yes, I consider the nuclear bombings as war crimes

LOL then we are done talking
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>>31606582
Kill yourself
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>>31608250
>just kindly ask for Al-Qaeda to please leave the premises
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>>31608293
Jews in Israel != Jews outside Israel
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>>31608401
That's my point, places get fucked up when you fight over them. So it's not really earth shattering that places where fighting isn't happening are better off. Or to put it another way
>just kindly ask Assad to please stop leveling his own cities.
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suicide belt, has flip safety, 500grams of c4, $125!!
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Syrian mil police
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>>31605863
Touchy, there are tons of Chechens who have been killed in Syria , half of them have been in IS but beside that Ajnad Al-Kavkaz put out a new video and pictures.
>it looks like their two leaders just got out of bed in this one
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>>31608776
>that scope mount
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>>31591666
Email this guy
[email protected]
To join the Syrian Kurds' International Freedom Battalion
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>>31593657
They don't even care that much if you're not really a commie desu, just as long as you aren't a jihadi or fascist, especially if you bring them medical equipment/materials...
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>>31610032
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>>31610042
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>>31610050
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>>31610070
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>>31598600

Islam is a fucking mess because they have no consensus by committee.

Every time, some group comes along, calls themselves a Caliphate and everyone else wrong, and they get BTFO.

If Islam wants to survive into the next decades, it's gonna need reform, FAST.
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>>31600143

Israel recognize that the USA doesn't have a fucking leg to stand on in Syria. They're just making noise, playing some semen shooting contest with their Nusra affiliates and pretending to target ISIS.

Same thing with Turkey.

Looks like Russia-Israel-Turkey are conspiring to solve the problem among themselves. They should just collectively tell America to fuck right off.
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>>31603662
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>31603283
>mfw
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>>31605800
>I wonder what they are up to as Jund and Ahasr/FSA have gone to war with each other?

Either staying out of it or remaining loyal to Nusra, I would presume
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>>31608314
CHURKINED
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>>31610177
Lol, no.

Israel and Russia aren't exactly close, and Turkey isn't going to go against NATO.

They still remember Russia's hand in the Iran deal, namely how Russia and China want to defend Iran.
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>>31610128
>If Islam wants to survive into the next decades, it's gonna need reform, FAST.

You're forgetting that Ayyrab Muslims are incredibly materialistic people, everything they do, from the Oil Sheikhs to the Abu Hajaars waging Jihad, is all to do with one thing: acquiring more luxury. Compare this to say Christianity, which is somewhat about being a better person, having morals, etc. etc.

All Islam represents is inquiring more materialistic possessions and luxury (thus representing Arabs in general, why the hell do you think they invented it).

Plus, not only do they all hate each other, but even members of the same particular sect of Islam even fight among themselves.
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>>31610177
I honestly don't even know how burger can compete anymore, how the hell do we stop this absolute madman Putin?
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>>31603639
>>31603639
Why not brush it under the rug? The Yemenis are bad people anyway nobody is going to believe evil people, it will be a waste of advertisement time.
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is this shit with the nukes in kalingrad really new? i thought they already had them there..?
more russia bad propaganda?
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>>31591740
well, i tell ya

ever since they took me off the payroll
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Abrams tanks to the moderate rebels when??
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>>31610409
>All Islam represents is inquiring more materialistic possessions and luxury
You sure you're not talking about the American branch of protestantism?
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>>31611612
The Islamic afterlife is literally just many women to fuck and houses made of gold. It's pretty disgusting, like something a nigger rapper would come up with. Not even Protestant heretics believe that shit, just that Paradise is being allowed in the presence of God and a part in his plans for hereafter.
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>>31611485
That guy's name is Ballin' lol
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>>31610409
>Compare this to say Christianity, which is somewhat about being a better person, having morals
If we're going by scripture then Islam is about being 100% devoted to god and the teachings of muhammed. Not saying you're wrong about the actual reality, though.
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>>31611693
>It's pretty disgusting, like something a nigger rapper would come up with

Islam in a nutshell
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>>31611735
Well there's always a big difference between something on paper and real life ofc

That scripture shit is what they use to justify being the "religion of peace". i.e. "Look here Kuffar, it says Muslims don't kill Christians, you just have to pay the Jizyah tax, 100& peaceful."
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>>31591025
I'm new to the Syria discussion, but from post-invasion Iraq AQI/proto-IS made heavy use of rural areas like Che would be proud of. AQI infiltrated tribes through marriage rites, absorbing them into their support base by destroying the tribal leadership. Rural areas are difficult to police and while the US was fighting AQI in the cities, the true logistical battle was in the hinterland. IS pipelines often followed rivers or major agricultural areas where the deep canals were used for protected covert movement and bunkers outside of main rural hubs. Often sources of water like wells and small dams/barrages were AQI targets and used to leverage farmers and recruits. The central powers of AQI were always centered in those small towns and extended via lower ranking lieutenants into the major areas of operation in urban areas. I mean, this stuff is no duh, but If be interested in how IS is working in rural Syria
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>>31602791
best fucking vid I have seen in a long time
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>>31590526
T.butthurtfuck
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>>31610091
what gun us that on top?
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>>31613252
That would be a DShK

BMP-1 main gun is the 2A28 Grom
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>>31613288
thanks, are they using it from the cupola or controlled from the tank?
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>>31613349
Looks like from inside senpai, crude mod but gets the job done I suppose
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Ahrar Sham spokesperson Abo Yusuf al-Muhajir says they don't accept Jund's bay'ah to JFS & that fighting will cont.

Source: Hassan Ridha (Twitter)

>MFW

>tfw JFS+Aqsa VS Ahrar al-Shan+FSA infighting soon
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Oh fug
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>>31614195
what the h*ck is going on
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>>31611693

This.

Islam was developed to appeal to the very dimmest of peoples.

>Fight for Allah, you'll get laid with blond pussy, ugh 72 of them!
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>>31611735
>teachings of muhammed.

The teachings of Mohammad are objectively inferior, petty and rather chauvinistic, compared to the self-less, humanist ramblings of Jesus.

On an apples to apples comparison.
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>>31614195
>>31614277
With all the activity in the region it's an excellent opportunity for the Chinese to observe the operations of others in a 'live' environment, I expect they've had boats in the area for a long time already, just nobody has bothered/had the chance to take pics of them.
>tldr Just the usual Chinese snooping for any titbits of intel they can get.
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>>31614389
Oh okay, so they're just the peanut gallery, pulling up close and having a watch?
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>>31614290
One was a warrior and the other a fucking hobo and drug addict going all dude weed lmao even back then.
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>>31614438
Yep, it's way too far out of their main area of interest and completely contrary to their policies to get directly involved themselves. Despite occasional media mini-panics over "Possible Chinese intervention in <Crisis>" the most they'll do is flog weapons to anyone interested (and that has coin), and of course snoop for anything they can get on US or anyone elses tech.
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>>31614555
Sounds comfy. Think they'd take kindly to a laowai like me hopping on their boat with some popcorn and beers to watch the world burn with them?
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>>31614686
They probably wouldn't mind it too much as long as you bring your own beer and popcorn.
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>>31605564
why would he bomb the districts he controls
what kind of retarded argument is that even supposed to be you faggot
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Any lad knows how is Yemen going?
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>HeadShota

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