Ruger LCP II

The LCP was a great concept but I sold mine because every time I fired it the frame pins would start moving out. I went from the SW Bodyguard to the Sig P238 and man the Sig has been outstanding for a pocket carry.

I think if price isn't an option their is no reason not to get the better options. I understand some of you are on a budget (no offense we've all been there)

>>31583874
>slide much easier to rack since there's no hammer tension
That's a big plus, especially for female shooters.

>ugliest thing they've ever released
So was the original. Who cares? The only time anyone will see it is when you need to throw down on some bastard.

Figures this would happen the day after I bought an LCP.

>>31584274
Bud you're fine. You got a pocket gun that goes bang.

Man they made it Taurus ugly. I'm glad they're putting textures on grips finally.

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>>31584441

yea. i was so reluctant to buy the lcp because it looked like such a piece of shit. now its even fucking uglier. i imagine some fat fudd being told to make it look tactical and this is the abortion he shit out.

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I have been waiting for Ruger to release this. The LCP Custom was a big improvement, but it still had that heavy trigger.

If this slot I circled in the rear of the slide and the frame means that this thing is hammer-fired, then the LCP II is very interesting indeed. The market really needs more hammer-fired, single action compact pistols with only a trigger safety.

I like the texturing on the grip, the forward serrations on the slide, the enlarged trigger guard, the high profile but slim sights, and the last-round slide hold open.

Questions:
-Does it have a magazine safety?
-Did they improve the field strip process so I don't need to use a screwdriver to pry out the take-down pin?
-Does it have a steel guide rod, or are steel guide rods from the LCP Custom compatible?
-What is the purpose of the little bump toward the rear of the trigger guard?

>>31583874
>Cares about looks.
Fuck off, Nutnfancy. If it works, it's worth buying.

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will my old mags work?

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Feel like this is as good as any a place to ask.

Is the Ruger American good? I don't think its that ugly and the compact model they're selling looks pretty good on paper.

>>31585576
Yeah this is probably the worst place to ask.

/k/ hates the American, it gets meme'd on pretty hard. If you like generic polymer striker fired handguns, it will do you just fine.

>>31585576
No, sadly.

Compared to the SR9 it has a worse trigger, ergonomics, and recoil, and is larger and heavier. The ONLY upside is it doesn't have a mag disconnect or manual safety.

I'm a huge Ruger fanboy abd I think they fucked up hard with the American. All they had to do was release an SR "Pro" with no extra safety shit and it would have been fantastic. The American was supposed to be an entry into the military's handgun program, but obviously was never going to win.

>>31585542
Yeah the 6rnd will but the auto slide lock won't work. Ruger says the 7rnd mags won't work at all.

>>31584958
Yeah it's hammer fired and SAO.

No mag safety. Don't know about the takedown but it's most likely the same. Pretty sure it's a steel guide rod, just like the LCP and LCP Custom. Bump is an over travel stop, so look at it for an indication of how far the trigger travel is.

>>31583874
Good. Been wanting this ever since I messed with one of the prototypes.

>>31584274
You probably paid $200 or less though, right? This will probably sell for 2x that.

>>31586005
MSRP $349, so expect $275-$300 or less

>>31585861
How's the trigger?

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>SAO no manual safety
fuck yes, I've been waiting for a gun like this for ages

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>>31585458
>Cares about looks.
>Wears a fanny pack every day of his life.

>>31583874
This thing is so new there I cant find a Youtube review of it yet.

>>31587264
There were literally half a dozen an hour ago when I checked.

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>>31585576
What in the hell is the point of the American Pistol when they already had the SR line?

>>31587371
No one can figure it out, but Fudds love them.

>>31584575
That tape is mandatory, they are completely smooth from the trigger guard up.

>>31585772
2 minutes and a paperclip/screwdriver to pop that disconnect right out. They had to have made it easy to get out on purpose. Would have liked a more normal chamber indicator.

>>31587371
The American was supposed to be their "professional" model aimed at the latest military contract and LE, where the AR series has always been for the civilian market, hence all the bullshit safeties.

As someone who doesn't know much about guns, why does /k/ hate safeties?

>>31585458
Your gf a ham beast anon?

>>31587848
For a defensive gun, just more shit that can get in the way and/or fail when you need it to work

>>31583874
I don't think it looks ugly at all. I'd still rather a PPS tho.

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Am I the only one who think it looks better than the first one?

Single-action with no thumb safety?

I hope that thing has plenty of trigger travel before the break.

>>31587856
Obese people don't work. Their fucking skeletons are cracking under their own weight, and their hearts are thoroughly overworked.

>>31583874
>Downsides: it's the ugliest thing they've ever released
Why do people always fucking say this? I actually think it looks great, big improvement over the original and most comparable guns in general.

Unfortunately I have zero interest in .380 pocket pistols...especially single action ones with no safeties.

>>31587911
Well the regular lcp has a 12 mile trigger pull. So probably?

>>31584042

>fired it the frame pins would start moving out.

Does the lc9s pro have the same problem? Since there practically the same cept lc9 being slightly bigger


I wonder if ruger has a lc9s pro II in the works.

>>31583874
Should I buy an LCP for $199-249 or so or wait for the LCP II to be more available on the market?

Just want it as a backup, carry shield mainly.

>>31587848
>>31587858
>>31587911
>As someone who doesn't know much about guns, why does /k/ hate safeties?
Because mall ninjas. Seriously. It's hilarious how the same people who drone on and on about "training" whenever anyone voices concern over carrying a defacto single action pistol with no hammer and no safeties will then go on to whine about how a thumb safety will get you kilt in da streetz...totally oblivious to the irony.

If you're that worried you can't train yourself to operate a thumb safety like millions of other people before plastic striker-fired pistols became so ubiquitous then maybe you shouldn't even be carrying a handgun around others, especially something as unforgiving of idiocy as a Glock.

Anyone who didn't see this coming after the LC9S and LC9S Pro is a moron.

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>>31587887
No you are not the only one anon. My question, however, does she bite like the others?

>>31587887
>Am I the only one who think it looks better than the first one?
I think it looks good, especially the grip. Seems calling every new pistol that comes out "ugly" has just become a reflex for a lot of people. It's irritating, especially when said people probably consider a fucking Glock attractive.

>>31586042
On the prototype it was light, but long, which is what I want in a pocket gun anyway. Production guns may be a bit heavier, but it's definitely on my buy list for this year.

>>31587911
It does, though it's shorter than the original...which isn't saying much. Longer than a Glawk.

>>31588902
If you can get the original for $200 I'd do it in a heartbeat. Mine is fine, even with the older trigger.

>>31588987
It's not striker-fired. Still hammer-fired.

>>31589118
The grip is actually a bit wider than the old ones, which should help. It feels better in the hand.

>>31589359
>still hammer fired
Dammit Ruger. One job.

So is there anyone who doesn't hate the American pistol here? I'm looking at one and thinking of getting it because I wasn't toon wowed by the SR9C series.

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>>31587848
Not all safeties are created equal, but the people that bitch about them all are manchildren. Slide safeties are hated by people that refuse to train with one or just leave it switched off (because it's fucking optional), trigger safeties look weird so waaah, grip safeties are kind of goofy, and internal safeties ruin Glock triggers. The built-in ones add more mechanical failure points.

>>31589695
it depends on what you hated on the 9c. The American is a full redesign of their striker system. I have no idea what the grip is like on the compact models but it's fine on the standard.

>>31589894
Not so much hate, just wasn't impressed that much.
Also in the market for a polymer frame pistol and didn't really like the options out there until I saw the American.

>>31589375
The trigger is fine anyway.

>>31589695
>>31590188
I like mine just fine. It's nothing special, just another polymer-framed striker gun, but IMO it's done well. Go ahead and get one. Or at least rent one and see how you like it.

>>31583874
Their American would have looked a lot better with the grips done like that imo

>>31590405
According to the Ruger site, I'd have to drive quite a way to test fire one, it might be a while before I get the chance unfortunately.

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Thoughts?

>>31590504
I thought it looked fine.
My first response to those grips was "ew", apparently out-loud, because a co-worker asked what was wrong, I showed him and he had the same response.

>>31590574
The more I worked on the grip I though the same thing. Its too busy. I hate the lets plaster "Ruger" on every panel though, and I thought some aggressive stippling would be more functional. No biggy 'tis but a copy and paste away from being fixed.

>>31590469
What state are you in? If you're in CT in the Hartford or New Haven area I'll let you shoot mine.

>>31590670
Indiana. Every zip code I've tried gives me either places in Cincinnati or Illinois.

>>31589375
Hammer-fired is much better. This will have less mush in the take-up and a cleaner break.

>>31583874
Looks like it belongs in Deus Ex if it had a stainless steel slide.

>>31583874
>buying anything from Bill "I'll monopolize the market by positioning myself for the AWB" Ruger's company
Can't wait for the all the 80 year old men keeping these fucks in business to die.

>>31591872
You were probably born after 1994, and if you weren't you were far too young to buy a gun anyway. Shut the fuck up.

>>31590574
>browsing 4chan at work
Absolute trailer trash.

>>31590504
>Mk II
>still has thay horrific unfinished beavertail

>>31591927
I'd hardly call this campus job where I get paid to sit on my ass and answer a phone maybe once or twice during a shift "work"

Trust me, I realize that when I've got my engineering full time position that shitposting is for home and lunch break.

>>31591968
How should it be changed?

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>>31591872
>Bill Ruger's company

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>>31591872
ok kid

>>31585576
It makes me sick just looking at it.

>>31590504
Guns that say "read instruction manual before operating" on them really trigger me.

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>>31587856
What gf?

everytime i hear ruger mentioned i think a poor fag, a fudd, and a shitty weapon. Would never buy anything they manufacture.

>>31594142
Your only hurting yourself with your closed-minded hangups.

>>31592018
Instead of being a big, bulky uncomfortable square monstrosity that was obviously an afterthought, actually contour it to fit someone's hand

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WHAT'S MSRP!?

>>31594405
Literally says $349 on the website

>>31594142
They aren't "premium" weapons, but even a rough-cut Ruger handgun will be extremely reliable and have very few, usually minor problems. And in my experience, when there is a problem, they are very good about getting it fixed for free.

>>31583874


Ruger™, Always Forward, Never Backward.®

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I liked ruger better when they just sold 22s, giant handguns, six series revolvers, and rifles like the Police Carbine and Mini.

They went from selling fun grandpa guns to a half-assed attempt at copying 'tactical' brands

>>31594839
>half-assed attempt at copying 'tactical' brands
Their pistols could still use some refinement but everything else is good.

>>31594142
So you just admit you're a faggot that because you ignores the hunter lines, the match champion, night watchmen, SR762,SR556 take down, the mini-14 target, and the Goddamn No.1

Hell look how much people spend on MKII and 10/22 after frivolous upgrades.

>>31591872
>tfw I've woken up in an alternate universe where Bill Ruger is still alive and didn't die 12 years ago

>>31594384
Yeah, this. I've fucked around designing handguns in CAD before and that's what it looks like when I leave a part mostly raw and don't contour it. Looks like their engineers just missed a part in this design stages.

>>31595749
>tfw no No.1 International in 6.5 Mauser

I wonder if the existing Crimson Trace for the LCP will be compatible with the new trigger guard. Looks slightly different.

>>31596298
The trigger guard is way different, no way they'll fit

>>31596411

Guess that's going to bring it up to about $500.

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The LCP Custom has sights and a super light trigger pull.

I'm not seeing what the LCP II is bringing to the table. What makes it an improvement over the Custom? I must be missing something here.

>>31596636
>single action trigger vs double action
>better slide serrations for easier racking
>last round hold open
>better slide stop
>improved sights
>better mag ejection

Seems like an improvement over the custom LCP 1.0 to me

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>ruger will never make a new steel framed handgun or revolver of their own design again

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>>31596696
My ultimate sexual fantasy is for Ruger to start producing Browning Hi Powers for $600 MSRP with improved triggers and high polish blued finishes from the factory.

>>31596783
fapping

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>>31596798
me too :(

I've been trying to find a Hi Power at a reasonable price with the blued finish and without those fuckugly beer can sights.

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We need a BHP thread after this one 404s

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>>31596783
I didn't realize it until now, but that's my ultimate sexual fantasy, too.

Have some Browning Hi Power porn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy2JQ0HqCuk

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>>31596861

The super slo-mo is a nice touch.

They should have CGI'ed in some non-blank cases, though. You know, to keep us /k/ spergs happy.

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>>31596696
They've literally never made a steel-framed pistol of their own design other than a few P85 prototypes.

And the Hawkeye is technically a pistol, I guess.

>>31597519
Actually, if we're getting all technical, the legal frame of the American *is* made out of steel. :)

>>31596783
>high polish
Ugh. Hand processing sucks. No. Fuck no.

Maybe if you have a robot that can do it. And achieve the correct takt time.

>>31597519
Ruger MK1/MK2?

>>31597547
Serialized part is a receiver, not a frame. Again, we're being stupidly technical.

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>>31596636
it was a unique pistol when it debuted and they pushed out the custom to address complaints when other companies caught up with the pocket 380 market. It looks like the next step up for the design and they'll phase out the older ones now. It's also probably the framework for the next LC9.

>>31596666

>>31596636
The Custom has the same poundage I believe. It's just reworked so that your finger has better leverage. I think it's literally just trigger geometry.

>>31597859
>implying the LC9s isn't already the next LC9

>>31591872
>Bill Ruger's company
Bill Ruger has been dead for a while now anon

>>31598048
And they actually use his corpse to power Pine Tree now. All the spinning from the LCP has really generated a lot of free energy. The LCP II is projected to make Pine Tree Castings a net contributor to the New Hampshire power grid for the next three to five years!

True story.

>>31591927
>night shift job at a datacenter
>60% or more downtime
I browse 4chan, program Android apps, and do electronics projects, all while getting paid.

>>31584042
i used to own a stainless one, but the takedown pin shit the bed when i was shooting inna gravel pit. i went to rack the slide to chamber a round, then when i brought the gun up, the slide was missing from the frame. i picked up the slide off the ground, and thought, well, at least it chambered a round.

the lcp2 can now lock back on an empty magazine, at least, but i dont think they changed jack shit as far as beefing up the takedown pin goes.

>>31598286
They may have fixed as a rolling change without telling you. Once something reaches a critical level of customer complaint, good companies fix it - either by addressing it in the current generation of product, or dealing with it in the next generation.

Or, you may have gotten a lemon.

>>31591927
Or just high up enough that it doesn't matter.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>31585576
The compact American is really heavy and too wide for only a 10 round flush mag capacity. A G26 or M&P 9c is a way better choice if you want a very compact double stack 9.

The full-size seems pretty good though. I haven't heard many complaints about it besides the aesthetics, which I happen to like.

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>>31598410
hopefully they fixed it with the lcp2's. i bought an lcp custom not too long after, and i think it is a good indication that the reinforced aftermarket ones are not compatible with the customs. i dont think ruger would have told me to go fuck myself if i had filed a warranty claim, because they have pretty good customer service and would have squared things away, but i think they would have replaced the part with the same factory one that failed at the time. i ended up buying a tandemkross pin and just dealt with it myself.

i wouldnt normally go out of my way to buy a ruger pistol normally but the LCP is a pretty handy pistol for what it is. ruger makes so many fucking guns a year that its so hard to gauge what kind of qc they'll have for a given batch (i've seen rusted stainless american rifles, gp100s, 10/22s with sights drifting off among other rugers come through the store i work at, pic related) but the price, volume and CS they provide dont make me think they are a bad company overall.

>>31598545
Next time you get anything like that, please send it back straight away.

>>31598603
what makes you think we don't? they do stuff mostly through distribution, so the shit rugers we get in from them are swiftly returned and replaced.

i get the feeling that some of the ones that get surface rust are the fault of improper storage at the distributor level, and maybe not from ruger.

>>31597961
>implying the LC9s isn't already the next LC9

Would they make an LC9 Gen 2 tho?

>>31598545

i agree with what your general gist is with the volume vs the good customer service. i bought an older LCP 7 round mag from a dusty-ass gun shop and it never hooked up with my LCP custom right. had to practically hammer it in place to get a lock. called ruger and they sent me a replacement baseplate (which didn't fix fit, but i asked for that part first) in 3 days for no $. can't argue with that CS. i ended up going to cabellas and exchanging it cause i knew they would have the newer version of that mag, and they are big enough to eat that cost.

>>31598651
yeah ruger is easy to deal with. as for the mag in the LCP, i feel like thats normal, since both LCPs ive owned had the same quirk where i have to slap both the 7 and 6-round mag in for it to actually lock in place. i dont think that's a manufacturing defect.

>>31598545

It is simple to fix the issue in your picture. Take punch, and give it a good whack on the dove tail, either on the sight itself or its base.

>>31597961
you know their production cycle will eventually release a new 9mm when 9s sales slump. They did the exact same thing when they scaled up the LCP to the LC9 dimensions and called it the LC380.

Ruger likes to have a new X every year in each of their categories and they phase something else out. Still no compact .45 in their whole catalogue.

>>31596783
I would drown in my own semen if I got that announcement in my inbox

>>31597545
A robut could easily polish the flats, and the rounds could be left matte. Would be sexy.

>>31598954

You mean like my Colt Officers Model Match. two tone?

Back strap, hammer, and reliefs in the cylinder are matte, everything else is a high polish.


One of the best damn looking revolvers I know of.

>>31598070
Fun fact: the energy generated by Bill's spinning after they released BX25s was enough to power the entire AZ facility for 8 months. Every new release since is timed to generate enough energy to keep the place running with no external power sources. They're totally green now. The suppressors alone generated enough power to sustain them into the foreseeable future.

>>31598541
Ergonomics and trigger are shit, and the pistol is snappier than any of the competition despite being larger and heavier.

>>31598650
No. They discontinued the hammer fired LC9 completely.

>>31598993
Yeah exactly. It's a great looking combination.

>>31599077
They actually came out with the AR-556 just to power the new NC facility. Ruger's commitment to sustainable energy is very important to them.

>>31596783
>Ruger Hi Power
Ew. You just know they would fuck it up with visible casting marks everywhere.

>>31596636
>The LCP Custom has sights
Yes.
>and a super light trigger pull.
No.

And now you realize why the LCP II exists.

>>31588902
My LCP is my EDC. I love it.

>>31598684

the replacement actually locks up, the older one (packaging was noticeably different from the ones at cabellas) barely locked at all. the new one locks up stiffly, but is much much more reliable for carrying

>>31598684
>>31599612
I had the same issue. It has to do with the clearance between the magazine floorplate and the distance from the bottom of the grip to the magazine catch. I believe that some LCPs were manufactured with out of spec frames. Ruger fixed the issue with mine by sending a replacement magazine floorplate - you can also fix it yourself by sanding down the vertical dimension of your floorplate. New magazines had the same issue, thought, which is why I say the problem lies with the frame dimensions.

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>>31599539
I have an SR40c and the machining is fine on it. I'd love a Hi Power Ruger

>>31599571
I'm thinking of selling my Bersa .380 for the LCP2 since the Bersa is a little big for a .380

>>31599571
This, never had a big enough excuse to leave it at home. Hell, even if I am packing a bigger CC I still have my LCP on me.

>>31599679
>machining
Rugers are cast.

>>31599706
Whatever, the quality is fine for the price, no noticeable imperfections or cheap looking construction

>>31599552
>>and a super light trigger pull.
>No.
>And now you realize why the LCP II exists.
Have you ever fired a DAO revolver, or any other DAO gun.
the LCP is a half cocked bastard action that offers a sufficiently long trigger pull at a manageable weight for new shooters.
Go pick up a S&W 636, P290, or any true DAO pistol and you will see what I am talking about.
I love the shit out of my LCP, but the trigger is far from heavy, infact if you think a custom has a heavy pull go find an un-recalled LCP Gen1 (S/N below 371xxx and no Triangle stamp on hammer slot) shit was crunchier than a fucking walnut and would have you guessing the break so hard you didn't need to dryfire to see if you have a flinch at the range.

>>31599733
>no noticeable imperfections

don't get me wrong, i think ruger tends to make a gun of good overall quality, but have you ever seen one of their stainless revolvers in person? you can see cast marks on parts like the hammer, and they look like they were hand polished by workers who are perpetually on the last end of their friday shift.

>>31599822
Just stop posting. The trigger pull weight was identical between the LCP and LCP Custom and that's what we're talking about. All that was different was that the thick red trigger helped manage the massive overtravel.

With the LCP II, they have lightened the trigger pull weight and made it a single action type pull, so it's a crisp break instead of a heavy, long pull.

>>31599916
>The trigger pull weight was identical between the LCP and LCP Custom
The thick red trigger also increases leverage, reducing the felt pull and they further unfucked the feel by not using machined gravel in action components.
I am just cracking up that you think that ANY version of the LCP (G1, G2 and G2 Custom) have a "Heavy, long pull"
That's what I am going off on, the fact that you need a .041" travel with a 5mg pull.
Y'all must be built like Twizzlers.

Why is it covered in fucking triangles? Did they also forget the cold-cathode LED case lights from 2005?

>>31600057
>all this damage control
Why even bother? We're all anonymous here. No one is going to remember that you were a retard once or twice on /k/.

>>31599860
most of that is masked by a matte finish. The last company to make a truly a s t h e t i c revolver is colt. In the 70's. Custom shop Smith's without the cucklock give me a boner but honestly a rugged as fuck gp100 or redhawk are my gunfu
T. Gun shop wageslave

meme yourself edgelord

>>31597859
LC9SAO when
I'll buy one immediately

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>>31599706
>implying casting is a 100% perfect and complete process and that there is 0 machining required at all

>>31602634
So it would have both casting marks and machining marks.

>>31587848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTalnzcO0xk

>>31588879

seriously anyone? this the one thing that stops me from being a lc9s pro since both guns are practically same.
and buying a shield.

>>31607514
It's not a common issue.