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Ship out as an MA in 6 days.

How fucked am I with the rate?
What are the chances of me getting something like K9 handler/Riverines?

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>one year ago:
>"Nah anon, I'm sure MEPS will just dismiss that since the doctor revoked the diagnosis later. just provide the relevant medical paperwork and you'll probably be in Basic by next month"

>tonight
>combing through my comprehensive medical history photoshopping out anything that might invite further inquiry

LIE TO YOUR SERGEANT

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>>31491475
What's the statistical chance of getting a waiver if you get a 90+ on your ASVAB?

I fucking know. I shouldnt say anything. I'm not gonna lie.

>>31491657
Getting special strings pulled for you due to a good ASVAB is a myth.

"Wow, you got a great score, maybe I can call in some favors and hook you up" is the line they give to literally anyone with a 60+, and it's bullshit.

The ASVAB is just there to filter the jobs you can pick, it doesn't give you a backdoor to get around an otherwise disqualifying condition.

>>31491870
I didnt think I'd get a free handy J under the table if the Army thinks I'm intellimigent.

I just thought that if I make myself the best candidate possible they might see some potential worth pursuing. As opposed to telling me to kick rocks right off the bat.

>>31492089

Nope, most of the people involved in the waiver process won't even know your ASVAB. A high ASVAB doesn't make a "good candidate", a good candidate is someone who is qualified for a job you have open and doesn't have any disqualifying conditions.

>>31491657
Things are either waivable or not. If you have a disqualifying condition or potentially disqualifying condition just lie about it.

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>>31493236
13F or 35G?

>>31494364

For civilian prospects, and a comfortable living/working experience, 35G.

If you hate desks, 13F.

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>>31491567

Alright, I'm borderline panicking a little here guys.

I found a sergeant who's willing to process my waiver application, but he asked for comprehensive medical documents. I've had to go back and edit out all the mentions of bronchitis and a knee injury, since they appear on every single page my GP gave me. As far as I can tell, my work is flawless, but I'm going to wait until Friday before I submit it to make sure everything is consistent.

This is the most in-depth act of dishonesty I've ever performed and it feels fucking rotten.

>>31495110

You know how people say shit like:

>Don't worry bro, worst case scenario if you lie you can just say you forgot, not like they're going to actually charge you, they might just kick you out.

Well that doesn't apply once you actually start forging medical records, especially since you're apparently the kind of guy that wants to let everyone else know how clever you think you're being. When they throw the book at you, they're going to throw it hard.

>>31495356
Guess I better not get caught then.

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>tfw too intelligent to enlist

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>>31491475

>tfw missed all the wars
>tfw I will never get some in iraq or afghanland

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I always wanted to join the Navy, but I want to do LE later in life. Would I be able to join the Navy as a MP from the get-go? Or would I need extra experience/qualifications?

>get PDQ'd from muhreens and army years ago
>go snooping around again recently and find out that while the army still has the files on it, the muhreens don't apparently (maybe they just didn't dig enough) and as far as they're concerned I'm a brand new prospect
Should I try my luck and lie with the AF or Navy?

>>31496325
Story time

So at MEPS i pick my tops 10 jobs and hope they give me a good one right?

what is air force eod like?
>training
>tech school
>doing eod shit
what are the chances of me getting into eod training and actually graduating the class?

Anyone here 19k or have experience working with tankers?

>>31496703
also im 18 years old
will i make it?

>>31496703
I can tell you what EOD training was like 10 years ago, it probably hasn't changed too much except for a few of the end courses they were just rolling out at the time.

I was Army, but EOD is a joint training school and the classes are mixed branch, so everybody literally gets the exact same training.

Off the street chances of making it were around 70% dropout in my time IIRC. Though a huge maount of that was in probably the first 1/4 of training. If you made it past the .50 caliber test (which was very autistic), you had a great chance of passing.

They do live demo training almost first thing. I think it's to weed out the people who can't deal with live explosives. It's surprising how many people turn into a nervous mess around a blasting cap.

>>31496277
Master At Arms is "MP" for the Navy basically

>>31496788
thanks

>>31496963
Yeah. Ask away any specifics. I'm up for another half hour.

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Who else /losingmotovation/ here?

>>31497418
For what? I'm super motivated. Course I leave in a little over a month from Great Mistakes.

>>31496527
I was pretty pumped to join the military right out of high school and fell for the muhreen meme. Halfway through I remembered oh shit, I'm allergic to peanuts and probably should mention that. Now my parents who never wanted to me to enlist in the first place said just join the Air Force and don't mention it at all. I even met a recruiter who basically told me to not be truthful about it. But I decided to just try the honest way anyway and got a PDQ for my trouble. Then I tried again with the army and got the same result. Now almost three years later I don't like where I am in life at all and still want to join the military, but its probably too late. However the marine recruiter apparently couldn't find any record of me at all, which gives me some hope of having a blank-ish slate.

sedentary skinnyfat here

I just ran a 3 mile run for the first time yesterday, and now my knees are aching a bit. Is this something it's okay to run through?

>>31496209
No you're not buddy.

You probably didn't get a higher ASVAB score than me, and certainly didn't beat my friend who got a 99.

>>31495110
That's really fucking poor, if for whatever reason they need to find and pull your civ medical records, you'll be maximally fucked.

OP, I don't know how much MEPS has on you, but if it's at all possible, I'd start all over and not mention a thing again.

>>31497613
Do not run every day.

Give it 2 days and then run again. Slowly work down to running every other day.

Do not run every day.
Did I mention do not run every day?

>>31497787
alright, i'll give it a couple days
thanks friend

do you not run every day when you're at boot camp?

>>31497865
>do you not run every day when you're at boot camp?

If you do run two days in a row it will be sprints/speedwork one day and distance the other. That won't wreck you the way 'normal' runs every day can.

>>31497776
>OP, I don't know how much MEPS has on you, but if it's at all possible, I'd start all over and not mention a thing again.
Not him but I'm considering doing just that. Is it possible for your information to be isolated to a specific branch and never make it to MEPS in the first place?

>>31497865
Once you get used to it definitely run every day, don't listen to this sped unless you're in the first month or two of getting into running

>>31498889
>>31497865
Forgot to mention to take one day off a week, or if you suck, two days off a week

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>>31497865
>>31497909
>>31498889
>>31498894
Why isnt this pic just stickied or something

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>>31499106
>tfw my next C25K run is the first 21-minute nonstop jog

Have Meps on the 1st hoping for Navy AECF ET
but i need to still grab doctors notes for when a tendon had to be re attached on my left ring finger could it PDQ me even though my finger is completely healed and give me no problems

In the process of enlisting. 93 on ASVAB 125GT score.

Primary interest is 18x or 11x option 40 contract (I am /fit/ I wrestled in college).

My concern pertains to security clearances. I smoked a lot of weed in high school and college. Total of over 500 times easily but no arrests or paper trail. I have good references to put down for the clearance paperwork, but if they ask those references for more people to talk to, then my weed use will probably come to light.

As far as I understand it, 18x and 11x option 40 require a secret clearance. I am not very worried about obtaining a secret clearance because my record is clean. I am worried that if I go 18x that I will need a TS clearance which will get denied due to marijuana use.

How likely is it that I will need a TS clearance if I make it through the 18x pipeline?

Can I just lie and vehemently deny any allegations of marijuana use throughout the process of obtaining a TS clearance? Even if friends/coworkers say I smoke weed?

>>31494423
Oh bro, the 35G job sucks ass. There's a reason we call them bean counters, squints, etc.

>>31494423
Not that I don't agree with what you said though.

>>31499748
just deny it all, never injected a marijuana in your life

>>31499710
>ET
Why?

>>31499748
Youll be fine, stop worrying.

>>31494423
What If I start as a 13F and Recleass to a 35G?

>>31499748
I haven't heard of SOF needing anything beyond a Secret. There might something down the road, who knows, but it's unlikely.

Pretty much anything in intelligence requires a TS, though. But in SOF, even 18F (ASSISTANT OPERATIONS AND INTELLIGENCE SERGEANT) just needs a Secret.

>>31499799
not really built for SOF even though i would have loved to do it
>5'6 145
Chose ET because fuck it ill go work for Intel or AMD if i dont re enlist

>>31499748
Hey man, I don't know anything about going 18x, but I know about clearances. Let me give you some advice. If you smoked weed, tell your recruiter. They'll ask you again at boot camp, and you don't want to be stuck there for months waiting on a waiver/go to AIT and be stuck there waiting for a waiver. Start that shit now, it will be done by the time that you finish boot camp. Hopefully. Option 2 is you can lie. I don't condoned this, but it will get you through MEPS/Boot/ with no problems. If you do need a TS, and your friends/family tell on you, you'll be in a shit ton of trouble. It wont be as if you had told them from the start and you can just obtain a waiver, they'll deny your clearance for lying and fuck you over. If they don't tell on you, and you manage to go through all the paperwork for the TS, you better fucking hope you can pass a poly lying through your teeth about drug use.

Listen man, tell your recruiter, fill out a form, get that clearance and go kick some ass. No one cares if you smoked a little weed. You can still get a TS having smoked. If you've done anything harder though, lying is your only option.

>>31491475
So im a us resident and i have eu citizenship, should i stay in the us and join the army here or go overseas and join the french legion or some other Euro militia that takes foreigners, (spain,russia,Ukraine,belgium etc)
Just turned 18 about to finish school, should i join before or after college ?

>>31499827
I did a lot of lsd but i quit 6 months ago would the same apply here?

>>31499827
This is all assuming that you need a TS. Otherwise, you do you boo boo. You won't be poly'd for a secret.

>>31499844
Yeah man, you're fucked. Doesn't matter when you stopped use, it's the fact that you've used it. No TS for you. Again, if you "forget" to mention it, you'll be fine for a Secret. And again, I still don't condone lying.

>>31499844
DO NOT i repeat DO NOT SAY YOU TOOK LSD
weed is understandable but anything else is a NO GO

>>31499855
can weed stop you from getting a TS?

>>31499867
We're you selling it? No? You're good. Just be honest, I can't stress this shit enough. For a TS they'll dig through everything. Be upfront about what you have/haven't done, you don't want anyone throwing the book at you once you're already in.

>>31499897
*were

>>31499814
This sounds promising, can anyone confirm this?

>>31499827
If I want to go that route, what extent of the truth should I divulge?

If I am 100% honest then my use would be "habitual" and I wouldn't even be allowed to enlist. Should I say something like "yea I smoked 10 times in high school and college"?

>>31499829
Bumping this

>>31497776

Basically my first recruiter fucked me over and said I should be PDQ'd before I even gave him any documentation.

My new recruiter said the other guy was a faggot and I'll easily get in as long as I submit everything again with a written statement. He just told me to get my medical documents to back everything up.

I'm gonna sit on this a while and really consider if I'm making the right move, but I'm not really to pussy out just yet.

>>31499929
In the Air Force the magic number is 7. If you've smoked 7 times or less, you're golden. I don't have a clue about the Army though, I would ask your recruiter. You might think that's crazy but it's in his best interest to inform you before you answer him on drug use.

The way I see: You sign up, divulge your "7"times of use, get a waiver, boot, AIT, turns out you never needed a TS, 18x time
OR
You sign up, you divulge your "7"times of use, get a waiver, boot, AIT, turns out you need a TS, you're questioned and you tell them you smoked weed and they can look at your waiver, 18xtime

As long as you admit to using less than that magical number I was talking about, and your friends/family/coworkers/school faculty/classmates don't rat you out, you're good to go.

>>31499978
The United States military has an enormous problem with obesity and sometimes it makes me ashamed to see people that are so overweight wearing my uniform. Hardly a laughing matter.

>>31499991
So close to those quints.

>>31499998
RIP

>>31499999
>>31500000

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>>31499817
>ET
Im trying to say FC is much better

>>31499817
>Intel or AMD
Lad that aint ET thats more IT. If you want post navy oppurtunities you definitely want FC. A buddy of mine was a FC and he works for SpaceX now.

>>31499827
Idiot

>>31499844
>>31499845
>>31499855
>>31499859
>>31499867
>>31499897
>>31499904
>>31499929
>>31499955
>>31499973
Lie
Lie
Lie

There is no reason to tell the truth. Theyll never know you smoked. TS does not get a lie detector thats a fucking meme. Its peace time, they are downsizing and looking for reasons to keep you from joining. Please for the love of god listen to me and just lie. Theyll never fucking know.

>>31500147
Jeez ok fine ill lie

>>31497582
Just join, dont mention the peanut allergy. Avoid eating peanuts. Youre not forced to eat anything u dont want to so if you suspect there are peanuts dont eat the meal and eat some bread and butter with jelly instead. If you get an allergic reaction at some point just say u were never allergic before. They cant kick you out for it once your in.

>joined knowing im allergic to cashews and raspberries.
>became allergic to macademia nuts and casein protein while in
>am given an epi pen every month in the mail, was never given an allergy test

I'm looking to join up a paramilitary unit in my country. However, since it's pretty new, not too much information is available about its selection process. All they mentioned is that it'll be pretty similar to SF selection processes... And it's not publicly available as well.

How do I prep for the selection? Do I just make sure that I'm physically ready for a random SF/SOF's selection? What's the most physically-demanding one?

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>>31500147

I'm alright with simple omissions, but doctoring medical reports is a new low for me.

I just want to do my fucking bit.

>>31500356
Make sure youre able to pass the physical fitness test for your countries army. Then work on your endurance so you are able to sustain walking/short sprinting for long distances and being able to carry 25% of your body weight as well as lift 15% over your body weight at least 5 repetitions. Also work on your swim, look up standards for your countries military and aim for your score to be between the minimum and maximum at least.

Knowledge wise, land navigation with and without compass, basics on plants(whats the most common poisonous and edible in your country), basic firestarting, how to cut down branches and small trees, how to filter water, and how to build a shelter.

Having some kind of knowledge on those things is pretty useful in general, because in the regular army, i would say the majority only know 1 or 2 of those i listed. And in my experience, familiarization is better than knowing nothing.

>>31500356
>How do I prep for the selection?
Be in really good shape???
Eat nails without milk for breakfast???

>>31500456
Youll be fine theyll never know. I think you guys think there is some gigantic medical file database, WHICH THERE FUCKING ISNT!!!
They only know what you tell them.

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>>31500496
Getting caught is one thing. I just don't like having to lie this creatively and tangibly.

>>31500553
>I just don't like having to lie this creatively and tangibly.
Why? Thats how you get ahead in life.

>>31500492
Thanks for your reply.

>as well as lift 15% over your body weight at least 5 repetitions

Lemme make sure I'm getting you right. 115% of my body weight, over my head, for at least 5 reps?

Funny thing is the minimum standards are shit, and look like BMT. The recruiter reassured everyone that it was the ABSOLUTE minimum.

I have no idea what to expect... which is why I asked about the most physically-demanding one. Better to be over-prepared than under, eh?

>>31500496
Just for breakfast? What are you, a pansy?

>>31499709
Thats nothing you pussy. Try sprints for an hour and a half.

>>31500147
You can listen to the guy spouting lie at everything posted, or you can listen to my reasonable advice. Why the fuck would it be a meme to take a lie detector test for getting a TS clearance? That makes no fucking sense.

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Howdy all, planning on enlisting in the Marines. I'm not physically fit and I'm really quite skinny. What're the chances I'll fail out, what precautions can I take to make sure I am in proper shape for boot camp, and will my recruiter help me get in shape beforehand, or no? Thank you.

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>>31500988
>15% of my body weight, over my head, for at least 5 reps?
He said lift, i think he means DL? Theres no way its over your head thats way to much weight. If you weighed 200lbs youd have to OHP 230x5 thats insane.

>>31501092
>Why the fuck would it be a meme to take a lie detector test for getting a TS clearance?
Because it is you faggot. They dont lie detector you, that is a fucking meme that idiots spread on here and pussies believe. YOU DONT TAKE A FUCKING LIE DETECTOR. Your advice is reasonable if you possibly dont want to be allowed to join or be on hold for over a year getting a waiver. Telling a lie takes 5 seconds. I lied of course and got my clearance no problem. You know who else did, all my friends who had clearances.

>>31501150
I've been hitting the gym on and off a few years now, but I can't lift anything too heavy (~20 kg fully extended on injured hand) above my head because of a rotator cuff injury.

How would one's DL stats be relevant in the military tho?

>>31501150
Well, they're all pieces of shit. And you're a piece of shit. You must not be doing anything important without a poly anyway, have fun being the scif janitor.

>>31500887
I wouldn't be joining if I was that dedicated to getting ahead.

You're right, though.

>>31501150
Tfw 200lbs but can diddly 355

>>31501142
Marine recruiters will give you fitness advice enough to make you sick.

Most people can get through boot as long as they're physically sound and really commit to improving while they're there. But as long as you've got three or four months to run and do pull ups and get used to some remedial weightlifting, you'll be in a much better position when you arrive and be less likely to injure yourself.

>>31501558
How bad is the drop out rate?

Are pullups that hard?

I'm going to commit to this. But I want to know every single way to attack it.

>>31501602
Boot drop out rates are low, it's not nearly as physically or mentally demanding as you might think, but it pays to be prepared. Pullups are relatively easy, but doing them when sore and tired makes it a bit more difficult. If you're interested in a combat job, try to make RECON or MARSOC because regular marines aren't doing much in the quasi peace time we have right now

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>>31501185
>How would one's DL stats be relevant in the military tho?
You have to bend over and pick shit up all the time. havent you heard of the new OPAT. You have to DL with a trap bar for it. Its super fucking light though.

>>31501203
Im a piece of shit for lying about smoking weed? What are you a fucking mormon or something? There is literally nothing wrong with weed its less harmful than alcohol. Grow up and stop being a sheep. Btw wtf do you do in the military mr. snowden?

>>31501215
And? Are you saying thats impressive or what?
I mean its certainly not bad but i wouldnt start bragging until you are at 2xbodyweight minimum.

>>31500326
>If you get an allergic reaction at some point just say u were never allergic before
Trouble is, there may or may not be some records stating that I am with the Army, I'm trying to find out whether or not MEPS actually has them right now. If they don't I'm getting down to an Air Force recruiter ASAP.

>>31502078
Just lie and if they catch it then worst case you cant enlist and best case you get in

>>31501780

I think those special forces jobs would be wayyyyy too hard for me considering their drop out rates. I was thinking of doing Scout Sniper or waiting until I make sergeant and trying out for EOD. Since I have enough college credits, I can enlist at E3.

>>31500988
By 15% over i meant dead lift or squat. Basicly if you weigh 200lbs be able to lift 260lbs. Just make sure you are able to do bodyweight plus some weights, even if youre doing pullups plus 15lbs. Think of it like this, youre wearing full kit and pack which is an extra 40 lbs and you want to climb into a house window. You need to be able to push yourself up and over.

>>31502133
What branch are you in anyway? How easy is it to avoid peanuts?

>>31501203
Dude, if you have a ts, doesnt mean you get a poly. You only get a poly if your unit has reason for you to have polys. For instance, first 3 years i worked in an office issuing ts/sci clearances and foreign travel shit as well has hosting a secure room(not scif), and i didnt get a poly. It was only when i worked for a joint unit with named agencies that i needed a poly.

Enlisting in army after I graduate in a few months. I stopped lifting and have just been doing calisthenics and bicycling. I do the cycling more to keep lean leg gains and a joocy ass. Should I stop riding and focus on just running and calisthenics?

>>31502355
Are you going SOF? If not it wont even matter cause BCT is so easy for people who have no fitness whatsoever. If you are trying to be billy badass than yes focus on running.

>>31502257
>How easy is it to avoid peanuts?
Hard, every morning the RDCs pour peanuts on you to wake you up.

>>31502257
I was army. This is how food works in the mil. In the dining facility its cafeteria style, usually there is a little nutrition card with the name of tge dish. And then after u pick entree with side, there is a salad bar with fruits and veg and desserts.

And when you get to ait/first unit and so on, you get your own food.

>>31502426
I am going to try for 11b.

>>31502469
Well that seems doable. I'd assume it'd be even easier in the Air Force. Just wish I'd thought this through a little more 4 years ago.

>>31502550
Youll be fine, still though running takes priority so you might as well start doing it.

>>31502640
>peanuts
>the silent killer

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So, we don't get to call each other by our rates in the Navy anymore.

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/navy-scuttles-sailors-enlisted-rating-titles-in-huge-career-shake-up

>>31502151
When talking about the US military(any branch), unless it's army special forces(green berets) then what you're thinking of would likely be considered a "special operations force". Just a fun fact.

A large reason for the high drop outs is CoD kids who think they're the shit and washed up frat bros who think they can hack it. And it's not really that large of an issue if you do drop out, because at that point you'd be better trained than 99% of your fellow marines, and would be put in a more advanced unit.

But real tips tho, don't go marines. Marines is for minority's and people who that the marines would still be as cool as they were 20 years ago, and there's few ways to advance your career as a marine. The whole "no elite marine" mentality has totally ruined their capability to have tiered units, like how army has regular army<Rangers<Special Forces<Delta or the navy tiers of UDT<SEAL<DEVGRU(team six for people who think they know what they're talking about). There are some more specialized units in the marines, like snipers and EOD, but them and RECON isn't even officialy a SOF.

>>31502817
K thanks senpai

>>31503021
>And it's not really that large of an issue if you do drop out, because at that point you'd be better trained than 99% of your fellow marines, and would be put in a more advanced unit.
Wrong
>Just a fun fact.
Its not a fun fact, its just a fact.

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Canadian here so I am not sure how much it differs from american but I am thinking of joining the navy full time. Those of you in the navy do you still have time for hobby activities like watching anime or playing the occasional vidya?

>>31502550
Please don't. This is coming from another 11B. Shit man, unless you need the college money, don't join the Army unless you plan on going SF. Even rangers now aren't getting many deployments

>>31501142
theyll put u in the delayed entry program where they mentor you and give you workouts to make sure your boot camp ready

>>31502469
Oh, so it's like MEPS but with drill sergeants shouting?

i want to join the rangers should i join infantry to airborne for a few years then trying to join the rangers, i fear failing ranger school age 18 trying to get my contract next week

>>31503116
You got any evidence for those...
>opinions

>>31502982

I kinda wish it had gone the other way and the other services adopted more emphasis on job role as opposed to rank.

>>31503149

There's plenty of good reasons to join the Army. Just no good reasons to join the Army as a 11B.

>>31503303
Um yah when you fail out of anything you are subject to needs of said branch. End of story. Sometimes they will filter you into something you are qualified for but 9/10 you will get sent where they need you. I was in the navy and ive seen both NUKE and SEAL failouts become undes and spend 4 years chipping paint. Plus ive heard stories from dropouts of SF and rangers on here saying how they got sent to be cooks. Sometimes they go to an infantry/air borne unit sure but again, at the end of the day its all about what they need at that time.
The moral of the story is if you are going for a hard program you better not fucking fail cause you are gonna get fucked either way it just depends how badly.

>>31503330
I musta had wartime info, when badasses are in demand.

But fuck you, that fact was pretty fun

Will I be bullied for being a virgin?

>>31503666

More likely your unit will try to get you laid.

>>31503623
>But fuck you, that fact was pretty fun
ummm what?

>>31503666
Not if youre proud of it. The way to not get bullied for something is to own it.

>>31497418
Me. Went to MEPS today and yesterday. I failed the duckwalk, I didn't even give a shit honestly. I tried it twice and gave up and the guy said "well maybe you should reconsider joining the military if you're gonna give up like that"
I totally agreed with him... I just kind of shrugged my shoulders and nodded. Everyone else in my group felt all bad for me. They gave me a temporary DQ. I wish they would have made it permanent. Now I have to somehow break it to my recruiter that I don't care about joining anymore. Fuck me

Thank you Navy for going Full Retard.

>>31503731
>This is the typical loser who gets an 18x and SEAL contract then cries the military fucked him over when he fails out.

>>31503745
Ya i seen that article in Navy times. I cringed so fucking hard.

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>>31497418
I'm slowly losing it.

>>31491567
Hey homie.
I broke my knee in high school, allergic to whole slew of shit, and broken hand when I went to meps.

Don't tell your recruiter anything at all, whatsoever. I are in perfect health when you walk in there.

My chronic knee pain? Service related now.
Allergy to bees and honey? Service related.
Fuckes up wrist?
Well you get the trend.
If you wanna join, don't let them know anything is wrong whatsoever. Wait a few months, or go to a new recruitment station, but don't hand over those forged docs.
I practice law now, and we just had a case where a pfc forged his medical documents and his recruiter accepted them to go to meps, and the recruited got cut because he had to many counseling and 2 art15s for processing recruits through with disqualifying medical.
He sued the pfc for loss of livlihood.
He's going to win too.

>>31503838
Are you a JAG?

>>31503149
Wouldn't going 11b help me get into SF? How could I go about becoming a ranger out of high school anyways?

>>31503976
havent you done your homework?
>SF
18x
>ranger
Option 40

>>31503976

Start working out NOW if you aren't already. Aim to get a 300 or better on the PFT before you ship out forget the minimum requirements.

What you want is 11x option 40. This will give you a guaranteed shot at RASP. If you fail out of RASP then you are still 11x. DO NOT VOLUNTARILY WITHDRAWAL or you will never be allowed to do cool stuff ever again. If you don't make it due to injury then you may get another shot.

18x is not an option for you because minimum age is 20 I think.

Recruiter may give you a hard time but hold out till you get 11x option 40 in your contract. Recruiters are more willing to work with you if you are prompt, professional, and have a high ASVAB and APFT score. Good luck

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If anyone is thinking about joining the Marine Corps for Infantry, or some high speed off-shoot of the Infantry (scout/sniper, recon, MARSOC), read this:

It's got no advice in terms of how to prepare, but it's a good read.

>>31503725
>proud of it

Literally the only approach that helps is "man I'll fuck some bitch when I get around to it, faggot".

Being proud of virginity is just a good way for no one to trust you. Indifference is the only defense.

>>31504257
Thanks famalam

>getting rid of rates
Just fuck my Navy up senpai

Is it just a meme when people say don't go 11b? I mean, fuck, we still have people getting deployed, even though it isn't common, and if we get trump we are going to almost certainly go kill Isis, and Hillary will probably have us gunning down Assad. I mean, I like Assad, but a sand nigger is a sand nigger is a sand nigger, know what I mean? I still would be fine with killing Syrian sand niggers for uncle Sam.

>>31501800
>You have to bend over and pick shit up all the time.

Haha, that I get, but I really can't see the local paramilitary force testing for DLs. We're still stuck at a version of our 1-1-1 methods, except there's a swimming component as well.

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>>31504755
>"man I'll fuck some bitch when I get around to it, faggot".
If someone said that to me i would start laughing at them. Over compensating makes you look like a loser.
>Being proud of virginity is just a good way for no one to trust you
Thats completely untrue. Being honest and owning it is way better.
If he is a virgin cause he is waiting till marriage thats fine. Tell people how you feel and theyll bust your balls a little sure but theyll respect you for being honest and staying firm. And if you are a virgin because it simply hasnt happened yet then say that and be cool about it and theyll probably help you get laid.

> Indifference is the only defense.
No, thats a good way to not have people trust you. Theyll think youre fucked in the head.

>>31504939
It only a meme if you dont realize what you are signing up for. People think its rambo but it aint.

>>31504857
I know its sad, if anything the other branches should go the way of the navy with the rates but the navy is backsliding.

>>31505011
See, I know it isn't Rambo. I just want to get the decent training, and use it as a stepping stone to either special forces or advancing through the ranks. Still, I do want to go actually see some combat.

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>>31503330
>Plus ive heard stories from dropouts of SF and rangers on here saying how they got sent to be cooks

>>31505127
You'd be better off picking an MOS that actually does something useful. You have to be King Tryhard in the infantry to get schools or chances at cool units. As a competent support guy? Pretty much don't be fat and you get whatever you want because most people in need jobs just want the cush life.

>MFW my intel section sent me and some girl to air assault because we were the only ones who wanted to go.

>MFW everyone else there had to win unit-level tryouts to get their slot.

>MFW a bunch of them failed slingload because the only thing they were competent at was PT.

Shit anon, you know how often I get the chance at a small group deployment? How often do you think infantry get to deploy without sending out the whole fucking BCT?

>>31505127
>use it as a stepping stone
Mistake, just go for the gold from day 1. Enlist with either an 18x or option 40. Go hard or go home. You dont become a nurse before a doctor right?

>>31505233
>Enlist with either an 18x or option 40. Go hard or go home.
>then end up going "Needs of the Army" after you flunk out like 99% of 18X and option 40

>>31505232

>>31505232

Can confirm. Softbody intel guy here. I delete 2-3 emails a month from SOF (PSYOP, Ranger, SF, etc) recruiters. They really need people with actual skills, but I didn't join the Army to do hooah bullshit. I'm quite comfortable sitting at my desk and accruing college credits for after I get out.

>>31505262
>after you flunk out like 99% of 18X and option 40
Citation please

Obviously you have to be prepared, im not going to hand hold a COD kid

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>>31503838

If you know, did the guy he let in get cut for something he had that he said he didn't, or for something unrelated that they found about another way?

I just removed individual lines pertaining to shit I don't even remember ever having when I was 12. Turns out I was prescribed an inhaler after inhaling too much campfire smoke on a camping trip, and the single line "patient had reactive airway disorder as a child" appears at the very bottom of every medical document I have. I'm already cutting it close with my current waiver, I don't want to tack an asthma waiver on there too.

I'm literally the healthiest person I know besides this one misdiagnosis and one ancient diagnosis. But it's already held me up so long.

If you DO get caught for something, are they allowed to pull your medical records then? Or is it still only what you give them?

>>31505371
My Ranger class graduated 65%. My Ranger School class graduated 33 out of 175.

The difference between those numbers are the 65% are actual Rangers who showed up ready for the challenge, educated and in athletic condition. The 175 were simply people from around the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and foreign nationals who didn't know a thing about rangering. You can guess the majority of Ranger school graduates were Rangers.

>>31505892
If they suspect you were hiding something, the JAG can get your medical records from your medical provider.

That's why I'm nervous about what anon means about someone getting found out and ruining multiple lives because of it. I'm certain I'm fine, but if they can just get curious and pull your shit up whenever they want, I'm out.

>>31505973
>JAG can get your medical records from your medical provider

Wow, you surely fell for a line of bullshit.

>>31496228
Honestly, there's little prestige in Iraq and Afghanistan. All the good hero shit came and went with Grenada

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>>31506028
They're allowed to, I have no idea if they ever actually do. If you start having epileptic fits five days into basic, they're not going to just say "well I guess he never knew, I guess he's going home".

I only know what I've read in the year I've been waiting for my waiver. /meg/ and various shitty forum posts from 2007 aren't really the best resource.

>>31505961
99% isnt the same thing as those numbers surely you realize that.

Canadian reservist fitness requirements, I lift a lot of weights but I have shit cardio, should I worry or is it easy stuff?

1.5/3/4/4

Anyone have any insight as to what the life of a 35F is like?

>>31506522

Depends where you're at. 35F is the most wide-ranging of the intel MOSs. You could be working at a tactical level advising an infantry company directly, or you could be working on briefs for the very highest-ranking officers at the pentagon or an intelligence agency. 35Fs fill billets from the most mundane clearance-checking S2 shops all the way up to spoopy coolguy deployments.

>>31506174
It takes lawyers, lots of time, fees, court orders and subpoenas - and it'll probably be rejected due to HIPPA.

No, JAG cannot acquire your medical records on a whim..

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How selective is the Coast Guard when it comes to candidates going for OCS?
What sort of things can one do in order to make themselves more competitive?

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>>31506390
I'm somebody else just offering a bit of insight.

I'm pretty sure I've got some mild eczema around my neck, can I put some cream on that for MEPS and act none the wiser or is there no way to hide it?

>>31507685
Just get a sunburn.

>>31507685
>mild eczema

Cover it up for MEPS. When you get in, just get your hands on some cream or something.

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>tfw still waiting for enlistment date

>>31508111
That's your advantage, blow gun. It's your ticket to get ahead in PT.

>>31496611
anyone have an answer for this?

>>31496611
What branch, man?

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>>31491475
I'm going into nuke. What am I in for guys?

>>31508754
Stand back!

You are in for a completely easy ride. Well, as long as you have half a brain to finish your schooling. Don't get caught up in the pussy or the next thing you know, you'll be pushing a broom.

Anyone in intelligence/analysis here? What would a defense paper look like? And how does one compare equipment between militaries if neither one has an overwhelming advantage (e.g. 300 of a particular tank, vs 350 of an older model)? How do you gauge superiority? >>31508893
>You are in for a completely easy ride. Well, as long as you have half a brain to finish your schooling. Don't get caught up in the pussy or the next thing you know, you'll be pushing a broom.

>>31508952
Oops, ignore the post reference.

>>31503134
bump

am also Canadian interested in the Navy

>>31502982
Holy fucking kek, are they gunna get rid of rank next?

>>31503722
Literally this

>>31502982
Why?

WHY?

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>>31502982
Serious cringe

>>31503304
>>31511162
>>31511208
Exactly, the navy system is the way to go. Rate combines your job and pay grade all into one. They are only doing away with it cause women are crying about the titles. They wont admit it outright but thats the reason.
>Engineman
>man
>woman complain

>>31511435
Except the thing is, literally NO ONE has complained about the titles. They are "pre-empting" women being offended.

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>>31511531
>They are "pre-empting" women being offended.
Oh of course, everyone knows women rights was actually invented by white knights. The nu-male gets offended for women and then changes the rules t gain their favor. I know that sounds a little crazy but its definitely true. When i was in anytime some sexual jokes were made the women would laugh but the faggy PO1 would white knight for them and say cut that out youll affend people.

I want to join the ADF Army as an Infantry Officer
The problem here is I didn't finish Year 12, and I absolutely and terrible at Mathematics
Like, failed the practice test on their website terrible.

What can I do to fix this?

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I feel like I'm about to get kicked out of mom's and fall into wageslavery to sustain myself.

I'm about halfway done with college (mech eng.) and wont be able to afford university.

Is the military right for me lads?

>Meps physical on friday
>Still like 8 pounds underweight

Any tips to put on pounds for the weigh in?

>>31512599
Eat a lot of carbs and salty foods. This will make your body retain more water.

Eat and drink a shit ton of food/water before you go to meps. Try to get weighed as early as possible.

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>>31512596
Yes, if you want easy out mode just get a 3 year army contract. Do your 3 and get out with a full Gi Bill to finish uni easily and a savings account full of money. If you want to be more deliberate think first about what type of job you want then choose your branch. Do you have any ideas what you might want to do?

>>31512599
>Any tips to put on pounds for the weigh in?
Eat food? How in all fuck are you underweight?

>>31508633
air force

>>31508138
This. If you don't have to worry about PT you can focus on everything else and become a super high speed soldier. You might can even get Ranger school and Airborne tacked on while you are in AIT.

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>>31512708
I didn't know they had 3-year contracts, what kind of jobs are those?

I figured if I'm going to join for the GI, I might as well have fun or do something interesting where I can make friends for life and have countless stories. I know this sounds stupid but 18X.

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>>31513163
>I didn't know they had 3-year contracts, what kind of jobs are those?
No idea i just know they exist.

>I know this sounds stupid but 18X.
It aint stupid at all, only if you are un prepared and fail out like a lame brain.

>>31499827
Listen man, I have a TS. I smoked weed, told the recruiter I tried it, didn't like it, moved on. I was investigated for my secret about 2 years after joining. Nowadays, it's been so long I don't even mention it on my reinvestigations.

Your choice. By the time you'll need a TS it'll be years from now. And 18F does require a TS, ask me how I know. But you won't worry about that with an 18X contract for years.

>>31513163
All sorts of jobs have 3+training contracts.

The shortest are actually 2 years but they usually aren't available.

>>31506069
Theare have been thousands of untold stories of valor that will never become mainstream knowledge to anyone but the guys that were there.

Ask me how I know.

Whats it like being in the National Gaurd?

the recruiter put a real pitch to me but i feel recruiters shouldn't necessarily be trusted. I wanna go to college for infosec and i figured that the national guard would be a good way to supplement the college costs so i don't have negative net wealth when I leave college, while also getting infosec training.

>>31508952
There are different types of analysis; tactical, operational, strategic.

Don't worry. You won't be briefing the president on your first day.

>>31513535
>Ask me how I know
Don't go looking for attention here, hard rock. Keep it to yourself.

>>31513668
No one should ever look for attention. Ask me how I know

>>31513677
nobody is gonna ask you, just fucking tell us

>>31513623

Depending on the job you pick, you'll go to training for quite a while which will probably delay your graduation by making you miss at least one semester. You will hate AIT, like everyone else does, but still want to go active duty at the end of it, like every other reservist/guardsman. Unfortunately, going active isn't usually an option. After that you will drill two days a month and never do the job you trained for.

Depending on the state, the benefits can be really nice when it comes to education, plus you get access to pretty good healthcare and a few extra bucks a month. Unless you're in some kind of high-speed guard unit, you probably won't get any good schools or interesting TDYs.

If you could actually get into a cyber (infosec) guard unit that would probably be a whole different story. Unfortunately, the guard does not have cyber enlisted slots yet. Even if they did, the pipeline is long and brutal to do cyberwarfare stuff in the Army.

All-in-all, there are trade-offs, it just depends on what your goals are.

Britfag here.
Been a reservist for a little while (Just finished my Bravo). I have an application for the regulars and they're attempting to dig really fucking deep into a shoulder injury I went to my GP about (turned out I had just overworked the muscle).
My support manager is making a massive deal out of it but I completed my Alpha and Bravo after I saw my GP and the pain turned out to be fucking nothing in the end. I'm really worried that my support manager is going to fuck up my application.

>>31513745
My goals are to make my college experience as debt free as possible. I was told the Navy is where you want to go if you want to get into infosec, but i don't want to be a career serviceman.

I'm also looking at the CyberCorps Scholarship For Service which has something like full ride + 22,000 stipend and a guaranteed job with the government, but i was not a good student so i don't know what my chances are with that.

>>31513508
So you told your recruiter but did you tell meps?

Did you admit to weed use for your initial secret clearance?

>>31513914

I know some guys who did CyberCorps and got some really cool government gigs afterwards. If that's an option for you, I'd explore it first.

There's also the Navy Reserve.

>>31513951
>Navy Reserve
well they certainly don't advertize themselves like the Army Reserves, National Guard, or Air Force.

>>31513745
Never go from AD to reserve/guard. It will make you question humanity

>>31513970
>>31513951
just checked, the guy on reddit said in an AMA that you need a 3.0 grade point average for the scholarship, and i barely passed highschool.

>>31513951
>>31513970
Reserve is trash. If you are gonna join just join all the way and go active.
>>31513997
Exactly

>>31514072

There are definitely situations in which guard and reserves make sense, they just aren't the same situations where active makes sense.

>>31514206
Well, that ought to be obvious.

>>31514072
>>31514206

yeah, but i don't want to be a career serviceman, 100% doing it for that college money. maybe break up a riot or two.

>>31514254
>yeah, but i don't want to be a career serviceman
Thats exactly why you SHOULD go active. You dont need a 20 year tactical plan, just choose a rate/MOS that seems cool to do for 4 years, have some fun then get the hell out and use the Gi Bill. If youre gonna be in for 4 you might as well get the most you can out of those 4 and that comes from being active.

>>31491475
I'm 18, and apparently I have bad credit.

I don't even know my own social security number, how could I even sign up for a loan or credit card or whatever?

How did this happen, and wat do?

>>31514857
>I don't even know my own social security number
Is this bait, are you retarded?
>How did this happen, and wat do?
Sounds like stolen identity.
Go talk to a finance/credit office and theyll start the process to set it straight.
Hopefully.

>>31514857
bad credit or no credit?

>>31514882
I'm not completely sure.

What exactly is the the difference when enlisting?

>>31514872
> Is this bait, are you retarded?
No and yes, respectively.

My mom kept my social security card and all of my documents my whole life.

I never needed it, so I never asked for it.

Also, I misplaced my card when she gave it to me after I took the ASVAB and went home, like a fucking retard. I had it in my pocket and now I don't know where it is, but I'm sure I put it somewhere safe.

> Sounds like stolen identity.
O fug wat

> Go talk to a finance/credit office and theyll start the process to set it straight.
What, like Equifax?

> Hopefully.
Am I fucked?

any Tacps here? If so, is the shit you do really that cool or are you just a glorified 13F? :P What is the training like?

>>31491475
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
Do any of you realize that as the US military gets more PC the things you talk about in this IRC will ruin your chances of moving up in rank. Think about it.

>>31515032
Good.

E4 MAFIA 4 LYFE

Anyone have an idea of decent and challenging AF jobs that don't require a TS clearance? I might have to readjust my expectations after learning that my foreign contacts might be a limiting factor.

>>31515101
Pest Management

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>>31515091
E3 TILL I DIE

>>31515268
SARGE KNOWS I STAY HIGH

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>>31515101
>Anyone have an idea of decent and challenging AF jobs that don't require a TS clearance?
I dont think the SOF type jobs need TS. Think PJ CCT all that jaz.

>>31515004
You need to find out if your credit is actually BAD or if you simply have no credit. Theres a difference. If its actually bad then your identity is probably stolen. Talk to your mom or use google to find a place near you where you can go to get it fixed. Time to start acting like an adult famalam.

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I just went to the recruiter for the first time today. He asked me to bring him all my doctors records next time to go over them. Do they check them against the doctor at some point, or will they just take what I give them? Is this a test?

>>31514936
Bad credit is a red flag for security clearances.

Having no credit is perfectly common, especially at your age.

>>31515101
If by foreign contracts you mean Russian friends on Steam for example, it's not even worth mentioning.

Now, if you visited them or some shit then you will have to provide a ton of info - who they are, where they live, phones, when you contacted them, etc. It would be a clusterfuck for you and the investigator, but it doesn't ruin your chances of a TS.

>>31515708
From what I've gathered, they send your medical records to a doctor for their opinion and I assume get you waivers for things that are waiverable.

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>>31515708
>He asked me to bring him all my doctors records next time to go over them.
Do you actually have anything on them?
>Do they check them against the doctor at some point
No, if you tell them you have no medical history they believe you, thats why everyone here tells you to lie.
>Is this a test?
Ya to see if youre stupid enough to tell the truth and get DQed.

>>31515783
>they send your medical records to a doctor for their opinion
No, if you tell them you have a problem then in that case yes you will need a waiver.

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>>31515768
In my case, the foreign contacts are family. The wife is Chinese, and of course she keeps in contact with her family back home.

I was thinking of going into cyber or intel, but I'd like to have a next-best thing on my sheet.

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>Not going anywhere in life
>Find out i'm part of a military family
>Not only am I the last one who can carry on tradition, but I'm also the last son who has the family's last name.

Options for the future are a job in IT, or enlisting to carry on family tradition. What do?

>>31516178
Enlist into IT???
2 birds???

>>31516178
http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/computers-and-technology/information-technology-specialist.m.html

>>31507204
prior service mostly, worked at exchange were they have program, mall classes, look mostly for community involved persons, selection boards are held once a year. have really good letters of recommendation form ex military, chaplains, and officers, 3 duties station ships and some other thing. good community liked working their but not my service, went army ocs.

>>31516178
OCS O C S try for it

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In the US military, what qualifies as rape now? Is it Columbia University tier?

Reminder that The Invisible War was bullshit with an agenda.

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>>31516696
Pictured is a violent rape according to the DoD.

>>31516727
wow did she get pregnant?

>>31516149

Cyber is probably off the table with your family. Intel is a maybe, but it'll be a lot of paperwork.

>>31516910
What about me, I'm a second-generation American, most if not all of the older people in my extended family were foreign-born, though they mostly live here and have been longtime citizens for the most part. How will this effect background checks, will I have a harder time? My mom still has a lot of friends in the old country (Vietnam) that she communicates with regularly and I have some great-aunts and uncles in China that I've never met.

If I were to become a Naval Reserve officer in a restricted line occupation, what are the chances I'd actually be deployed somewhere other than an American base?

Do not want to Gitmo or go to Japan unless it's a vacation with my family.

>>31515820
>Do you actually have anything on them?

I broke my foot when I was 15, but it's healed now. I also had strep like five times in middle school. Should I just take those pages out of the file?

I finally read this thread and it seems like people basically all bullshit their way in.

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I really don't know what to do. I got back from MEPS the other day, got a 98 on the ASVAB but I failed the ortho portion of the 2nd day and got a temporary DQ. My knees really hurt whenever I squat down and I can't run for shit, it hurts and I have little motivation in general. I'm not sure I'm cut out for the military but I'm desperate to do something with my life. I hate living with my family, they drive me fucking nuts... I hate being around people. I just want to live alone and do what I want. I felt so out of place at MEPS though, doing all the "Yes Sir! No Sir!" bullshit and kissing dick. I imagine it's about a million times worse once you're actually in.

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>>31517921
Have you ever tried to strengthen your knees? Lateral leg raises, forward leg raises, elastic band resistance training?

Even more simply than whether you'd like the military, your knees are something you should keep in good order as long as possible.

Read up on how to prevent knee injury, get good at running a mile or two comfortably, and take it seriously. You might fall ass backwards into a great job next week and forget all about the army, but your knees will still be your knees.

Also become a sparky.

>>31517921

MEPS (and reception at BCT) are a whole different kind of suck from most actual military stuff. It's way worse, in some ways.

Hey armchair recruiters, I'm hoping there's an armchair lawyer or two in the gaggle.

So I spent 8 years in the Army as a combat engineer and got out last year (thnx me 4 my cervix). People know I was in the service but I don't broadcast it except for when it's story time and I have an amusing anecdote. I don't talk about deployments or combat for personal reasons.

So long story short, I have this one coworker who has decided to make my life a living hell. She's said as much to our middleman coworker. This week she filed a false HR report that I was starting rumors and discriminating against her because she's a lesbian (which is fucking hilarious since I spent like $200 on drinks at a gay club with some friends last month). She did this, again, because she wanted to upset me.

Anyway, she went and fucked herself because she was telling people on Veteran's day that she doesn't respect me because I was never in combat so I'm not a real vet. I was and I am, so we can get that out of the way right now.

Anyway, I want to make this whole situation go away. I don't care that she has some harpy vendetta or that she's broken into my email or given my phone number to any scam website so I'll get a million telemarketer calls a day. I honestly don't. I just want to do my job in peace.

I figured the best way to do this was to tell HR that I'm going to a veteran advocate because she is actively making my workplace a hostile environment towards veterans.

Do any of you guys know what area of the VA I might start poking around in? The VSO directory is pretty vast. I was thinking of giving the USERRA office a call, but that seems more geared for reservists having employer issues and not a petty office squabble fueled by an anti-soldier asshole.

Please note that I have gone through every available local avenue on this one. I've thrown irons in the fire inside my employer's structure, but none of them are guaranteed to glow hot. I just want a big gun in my back pocket on this.

>>31518246
Have you tried contacting your local american legion branch? They might point you in a good direction

>>31517912
>I also had strep like five times in middle school.
Ya thats fucking dumb
>I broke my foot when I was 15
If its fully healed and functional then ill leave it up to you. Just remember they wont know what you dont tell them.

>>31518246
I like this idea and i wish i could help.

>>31518329
That's a good idea for a first step.

>>31515708
>He asked me to bring him all my doctors records next time to go over them.
Really? I've already been to MEPS and signed my contract, but I've never had to show any kind of medical records.

>>31491475
I'm 27 years old and 6 months. I have a degree in mental health nursing. What are my chances of joining the British Army as an officer if I can successfully cover up my history of depression.

>>31507179
This. I'm miserable at an EMR software company and HIPAA, meaningful use, and healthy planet are big pain in the asses. JAG ain't getting shit done for every last prospective recruit if making them accept a change that prevents addresses from being recorded as heights takes weeks of waiting and signatures from their execs.

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There is an initiative to turn male servicemen into teachers.

Why don't you do it, /k/?

https://getintoteaching.education.gov.uk/explore-my-options/teacher-training-routes/specialist-training-options/troops-to-teachers

https://www.teachforamerica.org/about-us/our-initiatives/military-veterans-initiative

This could be your new exciting life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWoyc3t6lgs

>>31520372
>Redpill your students
>liberal coworkers complain
>claim they're anti veteran
>they get fired/transferred

Sure you'll be miserable and hate yourself, but there's probably some keks to be had if you're unable to find a better career.

>>31497418

Joined as an 18x and failed the 240 on the APFT. Currently sitting in Airborne Hold waiting for new orders. All I do is work details and think about why life is shit. I want to drop a packet or go to Ranger School eventually and try things out again, but I feel like shit right now I just dont know where to even start picking up the pieces.

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>>31516727
Pic is of another horrible rape

>>31520372

Too bad teachers make less than military. Kind of a financial backslide.

>>31520449
How did you envision your cunning plan of joining to be Special Forces with a bad PT score would work out?

OSUT was gonna get you there?

>>31520449
>240 on the APFT
How? I feel like if you are in even remotely good shape you would be able to get that let alone after all the running and bodyweight stuff in boot. Did you not prepare before hand?

I've completed week 5 of C25K, where you run for 20 minutes without stopping. At this point, I'm more concerned with being able to run faster than for longer distances. Should I stop doing C25K and start doing something else?

Got my ADF assessment day on tuesday, going in for rifleman does anyone have any tips and what not to do/say

I don't know if the standards have changed but when I went through Ranger training we had to score at least 80% on each even plus 8 pull ups. Pull ups weren't bad. We also had to do 8 before each meal so we were used to it.

Keep a sharp look out during descent.

>>31516783
Your parents never explained the birds and the bees?

>>31520684
>80% on each even
*on each event

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>>31520669
Do sanics in the resting days of C25K

>>31520669
See >>31499106
Do the 10k program next. Youll naturally get faster the more you are able to run. You dont need to do sprints or any bullshit like that. Just keep running.

>>31503253
You don't go to Ranger School right off the bat. You go to RASP first and once you get to your battalion they're the ones who send you. But they make sure you're ready before you go

>>31520894
And even then, you are sent to Regimental Pre-Ranger

Which sucks pretty bad. They do feed you a ton of food but they make the course harder than Ranger School. There's a reason why most first time graduates come from the 75th.

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How do you build running stamina lad? I need to do 1.5 miler in 12:30, I can manage 11:30 if I really push but can barely get 1 mile if im not up to it,

How do I train for pull ups?

I'm 78 inches so pull ups are a nightmare for me and can't even complete one.

>>31520921
You improve your running by running. Go further and faster each time.

Source: Rocket Surgeon.

>>31520935
Think about the muscles that are used for pull ups and strengthen them. Do curls, lats, etc.

>>31520921
Start running distance. Steady 30 minute and one hour runs. Personally I'd go with a 5k training program but double the intensity, then switch to a 10k or even a half marathon training program.

If you're a male you should be coming in under 10 minutes. That's the reality of it. Anything over that and you're going to find training more difficult than it need be. Go to a proper running shop and get measured for some decent shoes (Mizuno, Brooks, Asics etc) and socks.

>>31520908

True. Unless you're my buddy who spent ten months in School.

>>31520935
>How do I train for pull ups?
There is no trick, you just need to build muscle. If you are so weak you cant even do one than join a gym and use the Lat pulldown in its place.
>I'm 78 inches
You realize that doesnt mean anything right?

>>31520921
See>>31520941
You get better at running by fucking running.

>>31520969
Story?

>>31520984
>Implying it doesn't matter

For most tall people, their legs are more often than not disproportionately larger/longer than the rest of their body and increases work load significantly.

>>31520984
He was in School when I first showed up to my squad. This was his second time there, the first time I think he double no-go'ed Darby so they sent him home. The second time he went, he recycled Darby twice, Mountains twice, and Florida three times. Which is unheard of, I was shocked to hear they gave him a third shot. Unsure of exact dates and such, but he was there for a good while. Unfortunately he didn't pass his third time in Florida, and was kicked out of the unit.

>>31520579
Competitive STEM teachers with good educational backgrounds can make pretty decent money.

>>31521035
>For most tall people, their legs are more often than not disproportionately larger/longer than the rest of their body and increases work load significantly.
What does that have to do with pull ups? And even thought that is true the advantage/disadvantage it provides is like 1%. Dont blame height for a weakness. All competitors in WSM are like 6'6.

>>31521056
Wtf was wrong with him that is insane.

>>31521115
>STEM teachers
Bro they dont mean college they are talking like elementary school.

>>31521126
He was a patrol no-go for most of the instances in which he recycled. Guess he just couldn't lead. He was a quieter dude so it made sense.

>>31512461
I'm in similar situation. My plan is to work through the relevant math sections on Khan Academy until I git gud.

>>31520674
Just say "If you need any war crimes committed on the down low, look no further. I will do things that would get me locked up for life, as long as we can both keep quiet about it."

>>31499768
>currently in 35g ait
I enjoy it so far.

>>31521199
I can taste your envious and personal inadequacy tears all the way across the internet.

>>31521301
you probably shouldn't join the army if you can't take a joke tb.h. fa.m

>>31521115

That's called being a professor, and usually entails making all of your money from research while teaching on the side.

Unless you're talking about working at a private STEM academy teaching rich kids how to program or something.

What do you guys think of Army 12m? I wanted to do 11b but not during peacetime. After I get out I want to try and become a fireman in the Pacific Northwest so I feel like this would help.

>>31513920
It was in my med records, so when the questionnaire asks you have you ever used an illegal substance, I put something like "yes, once, 2001 in high school, never again"

Wasn't an issue. But that was when the wars were on, I joined just after the Iraq invasion, don't know what it is like now.

>>31513920
Same Op, listen man, your recruiter will prefer you just say no if there is no legal record of it happening. It's not like that NSA has been calling the recruiter with details of your college weed use.

>>31521701
You could be a laundryman in the military. The only thing the Fire Department cares about is your service. You typically get a 5 point bump on the written test.

Go do what you want in the service. I was an Airborne Infantryman. I learned how to jump out of planes and kill people. Now I'm a Paramedic.

>>31513668
Don't worry, I was planning on it. Stay mad cherry faggot.

>>31521842
You're the one who posted and begged for recognition.

If you want to unload your story, you can email me. I served in the 3rd battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. hhc375 at gmail

18year old
1st Year Political Science degree
I want to go into my armored reserves, but I was planning on joing the airforce once I am done my degree because I have my Powered Pilots Licence?

What can I do? Also I am on ADHD meds (concerta) and I have a file with the CF already and my CFAT allowed me to go pilot and qualify for an officer.

>>31521442
I'm talking about being a good enough math teacher to teach IB/AP math in a good school district, mostly.

>>31520449
>falling for the 18x meme

>>31523578
Its not a meme if youre in good shape. clearly he wasn't.

>>31522456
It's a real pain in the ass to change services, and borderline impossible to if your service time isn't up yet. If you're that interested in doing reserve stuff in school, just do Air Force ROTC or Air Force Reserves and keep it all in one pipeline.

>>31522609

Public school teachers make out less than an E5, with way more experience.

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>wanting to die for this bitch

>>31524044
>Joining the military intending to die.

K

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>>31524065
my point remains, why the fuck would you follow that cunt's orders?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxDDYOHB_yg

vid related, the US military is a joke

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>>31524115
As an Infantryman, you don't care who the enemy is. You just want to employ your skill.

When I was in, I prayed President Bush would send us into combat. Later, I got a combat jump and a CIB.

RLTW

>>31524115
>Implying that presidents directly order around individual military members.

POTUS strategic decisions usually pass through a couple people before they even hit the first person in uniform. Then they pass through another 20 levels of command until they actually hit someone in a position to do anything.

The truth is it doesn't really matter who CIC is when it comes to "following orders". Flag officers and below will be making all the decisions that actually matter when it comes to mission.

What really matters is who controls congress, since they're the ones that actually control pay and bennies. You know, the shit that matters.

>>31524163
>>31524169
have fun dying in Sevastopol faggots

>>31524192

Too bad I picked a job that doesn't deploy. I can't hear your /pol/fagging over how comfortable and safe I am.

>>31524192
I hope you live forever.

>>31524115
>ROTC
>actual military

It's basically low-intensity hazing.

what if we offered h1-b visas for military jobs?

wouldnt think make it easier to get recruits? it helps in the private industry.

we could pay the soldiers less, and ship them home after they are done fighting.

third worlders arent as fat as americans, and it could help get recruits.

then normal americans wouldnt have to fight, and we could hang out here and get a basic income

>>31524639
this would also help too since when we go negative interest rates we can have the military liquidate our populace easier

plus, third worlders are used to fighting. we could perpetually be in war.

>>31524652
part of shipping them home would help negate health care costs.

we could ship them home after their service.

then we wouldnt have so many suicides that make the country look bad.

>>31505232
>>31505308
Which Intel/Support MOS are they looking for in particular?
This interests me greatly

>>31497787
whats the problem with running every day. I'm in highschool cross country with a dream of being in SF and I've ran almost everyday for the past 3 years and feel fine every day. Not to sound rude but Im curious about why you said not to run everyday.

Was just diagnosed with two herniated slipped discs with fissuring. Not sure I'm gonna make it anymore.

>>31520579
Teachers make mad dosh when they have tenure
Teachers make nothing when they don't have tenure

>>31524845

People say don't run everyday because 300 pound guys who have never run a day in their life will try to start all at once to try and join the military. This turns their joints to dust.

>>31524924

They really don't. Public school teachers in most areas make like 60k tops even after tenure.

I was doing better than that 4 years into my enlistment.

>>31524821

Competent medics (IE, both fit and a medicine nerd), cyber guys (HUGE right now), certain linguists, all-source analysts, and intel systems techs are usually in high demand.


There are actually a fuckton of different cool support assignments, but most of them require you to be in and cleared to really pursue.

>>31524845
They're not ready. If you've got the build for it, it's okay to start running every day, but alot of people will have to work up to running every day so they don't hurt themselves

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>>31524962
>make like 60k tops
Soooo, same as an E-9? (non-SOF of course)

Both are dead end as fuck.

>>31525044
Kek. I was making more that as an E-5.

You're the dude that just shitposts about how bad you think enlisted life is though, so carry on.

>>31525044
http://www.dfas.mil/dam/jcr:81e6bd2c-a106-461b-851d-c77c7066baa5/2016MilitaryPayChart.pdf

E9s top out at $66,000.

>>31525114

>Not realizing that base pay is only a fraction of overall compensation.

Hell, my base pay didn't even make up 50% of my overall pay until I hit E-6

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>>31524845
Didnt you read who he was replying to
>Sedintary skinny fat
does not equal
>highschool cross country
>>31525157
Exactly
>>31525114
Thats just base pay you moron, there are dozens of other additional pays you could get plus bonuses and incentive money.
>>31525044
>Both are dead end as fuck.
Are you saying being an E-9 is dead end?

Do recruiters get job opening lists at the beginning of the month?

>>31525597

Slots for FY17 are out now. More stuff appears periodically. No point in waiting.

>>31524163
Based < 3 > ?

>>31523893
Thing is, there is no Air Force ROTC, only Air Cadets

Anybody got any info on the Foreign Legion they can share? Any stories about current conditions would be appreciated, I've hit up cervens but that place is dead as fuck.

>>31526594
>>31526594
>>31526594

>>31521343
wasnt the guy you replied to, was some random

>>31517988
I'll try those exercises. I've had a mostly sedentary life for basically my whole life so I think that's the main problem