/k/ in 40k

>>31543395
FPBP.

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Who Autogun Master Race?

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Are you serious?

Everything in 40K is so retardadly overpowered. A single space marine could take on several battalions of Army Rangers and a Platoon of Abrams before he was even wounded.

Anything from 40K would eviscerate every autistic fatass here with a spoon while simultaneously juggling school busses.

>>31543422
Youre forgetting air support

>implying 4chan is absolute heresy and therefore wiped out

>>31543455
>apache squadron fires 8 hellfires at 260 30mm rounds at space marine that just got finished beating several hundred rangers to death with the turret of an M1 abrams
>qnnoyed, he turns to investigate what has scratched the paint on his armor
>he leaps 17,000 feet and crashes through the cockpit of the first apache, uses the tail of the aircraft to swat the next out of the sky, and firing his bolter shoots down 2 A10 warthogs
>crashing to the ground at supersonic speeds he obliterates a hardened command and control bunker
>a tactical nuclear weapon is detonated on top of him in accordance with the scorched earth policy
>he stands up and lifts 300 tons of rubble off of himself
>he becomes increasingly bored at the patheticness of his quarry and wishes for a more challenging adversary

>>31543524
Hi Nappa, did you have fun today out of canon?

Fuck 40k. Shitty ass grimdark excuse for sci-fi. It's become such a cringy edgelord/sperge game. The cognitive dissonance of the fluff alone fucking hurts my head

>>31543422
What? Nigga a Space Marine could kill a SQUAD of Rangers. .50's 40mm and spam 5.56 at armor joints would down him.

Most of /k/ would get purged by the Inquisition.
>Fags
>Furrys
>Trannys
>Noguns
>Weebs.

Yeah.... The Imperium makes /pol/ look like pacifist tolerant hippies.

>>31543524
True version here.
>Space Marine contacts Rangers.
>Rangers try to disarm Marine.
>Space Marine Opens fire, bolter scores 3 kills in 3 seconds.
>Rangers take cover, and return fire.
>5.56, and 7.62 ricochet off plate armor, but some penetrate the joints.
>Space Marine takes some wounds but his biology handles them.
>Space Marine tries to break contact and fall back.
>Rangers see this and try to rush.
>Space Marine kills 4 more Rangers.
>Ranger LT says fuckit.
>Orders all 40mm to target Marine.
>Space Marine is rocked by near hits no damage.
>Space Marine returns fire killing 3 more Rangers.
>a 40mm HEDP hits his fuck huge pauldron.
>Space Marines healdry is destroyed.
>Space Marine Flies into sperg rage.
>Drops bolter, pulls chainsword.
>Charges Rangers, kills 5 in CQC.
>Combined close range fire wounds Space Marine.
>Another 40mm hits leg, blows it off.
>Space Marine draws bolter again.
>Kills 2 more Rangers.
>Rangers concentrate fire on Marine.
>Overwhelming 5.56, 7.62 and 40mm finishes him off.

Space Marines DO have weak spots in their armor. And they do RETARDED shit all the time in combat.
>"Mah honour"
>"Mah chainsword"

>>31544009

I love how in an effort to make your scenario somehow work you imply that Space Marines would do nothing but stand still in the open.

Taking cover would be fucking pointless against them anyway. They're firing what amounts to fire control guided fully automatic XM25's. It'd be over in moments. He's spot first, engage first, massacre first. There's plenty of fluff amounting to just how fast they can queue targets and unleash on them.

And thats assuming all he has is a normal Bolter. And not accounting for how fast they move, the cover they use, their better training and use of psychological warfare.

And all thats assuming they don't just land on the poor fuckers with a drop pod in the first place.

The whole "lol he'd charge like an idiot" thing is stupid anyway. There's very few chapters who's operation tends to go that way. Hell, if it were a Raven Claw, they'd be turbofucked without even seeing it.

Yes, I am fully aware this post gleams with the source of autism. But fuck it, it's 40k, it wouldn't be proper if it weren't overblown and stupid to blurt.

>>31544286
Nigga have you read ANY BL books?
Space Marines Maintain a 10/1 kill ratio against Imperial Guard, and Traitor Guard. Against Tempestuous Scions its 3/1.

>>31544404

Read Salvation's Reach or Brothers of the Snake then. Shows the real shit Marines are capable of, thats far more in tone with the main fluff on how they can perform.

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>>31543418
yo

>>31544009
>Marine doesn't immediately rush into melee with people he completely overwhelms and who are defenseless

wat

>>31543824
>The Imperium makes /pol/ look like pacifist tolerant hippies

Sides Status: blasted

>>31543796
It's lore that a company of space marines (100) can secure a star system, depending upon the threat.

So yeah. One squad could pacify damn near everything on earth given proper wargear.

>>31543384
As usual depends on the planet.
But brutal dictatorial regimes like the Imperium usually don't like armed citizens.

>>31544009
>>Charges Rangers, kills 5 in CQC.
>>Combined close range fire wounds Space Marine.
>>Another 40mm hits leg, blows it off.
>cqc
>40mm hit
So the rangers are shooting M203s in melee? Nice to see the policy of the US army about friendly fire hasn't changed.

>>31543422
>>31543524
>>31544009
Veterans advance to 24".
10 Veterans open fire against Tactical Marine with Autoguns.
10 shots at BS4 hit 6.67 times
6.67 hits at S3 deal 2.22 Wounds against T4
Sv3+ saves 1.48 times against 2.22 Wounds with AP-.
Tactical Marine takes 0.74 Unsaved Wounds.

Tactical Marine advances to 18".
Tactical Marine opens fire against Veterans with Boltgun.
1 shot at BS4 hits 0.67 times
0.67 hits at S4 deal 0.44 Wounds against S3
Sv5+ saves 0 times against 0.44 Wounds with AP5.
Veterans take 0.44 Unsaved Wounds.

Veterans advance to 12".
10 Veterans open fire against Tactical Marine with Autoguns.
20 shots at BS4 hit 13.33 times
13.33 hits at S3 deal 4.44 Wounds against T4
Sv3+ saves 2.96 times against 4.44 Wounds with AP-.
Tactical Marine takes 1.48 Unsaved Wounds.
Tactical Marine dies.

>>31544983

I always wondered why heavy stubber teams aren't able to be fielded as special weapon choices in Guardsmen squads, or hell even just vet squads. If I can get a bunch of grenade launchers for nothing, why can't I get a couple 2man fireteams with a big gun that has rapid fire and the AP of a Bolter for slightly less cheaply? Given that it's basically just a Ma Deuce it can't be that hard to manufacture in a setting of literal factory planets. I just want an LMG equivalent that my fodder squads can lug around instead of being trapped in a firing line with heavy bolters.

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>>31543384
If /k/ are not Orks of the 40k, I don't know what else they could be.

To me, a non-gun owner.. /k/ is the definition of "need more dakka" etc.

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>>31545197
because they need to be mounted, to tanks or to tripods, and are not mobile enough to move with the normal guardsmen squad running to die. And if you go to heavy weapons, Heavy Bolter is just better, so no need for it there either.

>>31543422
Maybe if the lore was written by Matt Ward

>>31545236
Wrong. Chaos Cultists use them with no mount or even a bipod, and they aren't noticeably stronger.

It's more that these very slight variances don't add any meaningful choice. I'd totally take Spess Marine Multilasers or Devastator Assault Cannons though.

>>31545197
>a big gun that has rapid fire
They don't. They're S4 AP6 Heavy 3. Why would you want a Heavy Stubber team when that means you aren't taking a Heavy Bolter or Autocannon?

>be on way home from monthly PDF drill, OCing my laspistol
>stop at local provisions market to get food for my family
>heretic woman with her demon-spawn looks upon my weapon for slaying the enemies of the God-Emperor and begins frantically calling for the Arbites.
>Arbites arrive and I explain that I am a member of the Planetary Defense Force out doing my part for the God-Emperor.
>Arbites summarily executes the heretic and her demon-spawn, just to be safe.
>occasionally go ork-hunting together now

ama

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>>31545223
>If /k/ are not Orks of the 40k, I don't know what else they could be.

really autistic, weapon focused tech priests.

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>>31543824
Even if they support the emperor?

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>>31545260
Cultists are already both in the verge of idiocy and chaotic powers that seem to go more or less hand to hand. In any case, People carried, and hip fired 30 cal etc to battle in ww2, but that doesnt mean its practical, safe or doable by your average joe.

Seeing how the stubber is usually mounted in vehicles I would say its safe to say its a specialist MG such as MG-3 which is mounted in many armored vehicles, but not really used as much in ground forces.

>>31545071

SM can secure a star system by decapitating the head of the snake. They can't fight a conventional war, nor can they hold the ground they take. That's what the Imperial Guard is for. Their fleets, though, depending on the chapter, can definitely match most foes in space. On the ground it's another matter, since it's whoever can throw the most bodies at their enemy, see orks. That's why SMs and the Inquisition use exterminatus so often.

During the Golden Crusade and Horus Heresy, they SM were like common soldiers, because they had so many of them, and they fought conventional wars.

>>31545299
>During the Golden Crusade and Horus Heresy, they SM were like common soldiers, because they had so many of them, and they fought conventional wars

And actually got shit done

Fuck the codex astartes

Non codex or bust

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>>31545285
Lower level tech-priests mainly replicate guns from STC, higher level are obsessed with finding more STC.

At best /k/ operators could be Skitarii so attached to their nuggets that they are the nugget themselves.

but look at ork upgrades:
Bigga barrel

Bigga klip

Loudener

More shooty

Red ligh

Sparky knobz

Spikey bitz

Kustom job

More Dakka!

Shootier!

>>31545338
>Loudener
So /k/ it hurts

Traditionally heavy stubbers have been GPMGs, about .30 or so. Heavy bolters are HMGs .50 BMG or so. In Necromunda both were hand-carried by a single model.

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>>31545299
Arguably they were somehow still very inefficient, seeing how their task should be near-impossible for the common imperial guard, yet IG still stands doing the impossible. Shows that the original SM organization could not have been very efficient either.

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>>31545360
Catachan can carry shit like that since they are so muscular.

I imagine the gangs could have cut on some safety to make them lighter, have some sort of civilian version or just big guys carrying them. As far as Heavy Bolter goes.

As far as Stubber goes, all auto weapons seem to be out of favor in IG, instead favoring energy weapons and self-propelled grenade weapons

>>31545360
There have been ganger/IG minis carrying twin linked autocannons.
40k humans are probably the result of millenias of eugenics and gene modifications anyways. That and the combat drugs and rule of cool.

>>31543422
Space Marines aren't as strong as exaggerated. A single one, even armed, won't do much without all their support unless it's some super exceptional one.

>>31545401
IG uses energy weapons because the logistics are easier but local forces still use plenty of conventional weapons bear in mind that that tt rules are abstracted to represent a wide variety of designs in a d6 format.

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>>31545509
Afaik autoweapons share the stats with lasguns.. so its up to the player which one they want to use.

Atleast they used to.

And if you consider what one Lasgun or Autogun (same stats?) can do to a unarmored man, they are pretty powerful.

>>31545474
I played for almost 15 years but I cant stand the constant rule of cool exageration creep. Every new codex has to have units bigger and better than before so you end up with IG elites being as badass as Marines and Marines being gods. Its like a 4 year old wrote the stories

>>31545338
>kek'd sensibly
>snorted, too

Man, Skitarii+orkz sound a lot like /k/, and I love it.

>>31545509
Lasguns are a miracle logistics wise. Power packs can be recharged through all sorts of ways, even solar power or a camp fire.

>>31545549
So has the Eldar won a battle yet?

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>>31543422

>yfw the front of a Land Raider is only 98mm thick

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>>31545618
of composite material with majority being graphene.


...just an example

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>>31545562
Your average /k/anon, with a bit of flash and innawoods.

>>31545643
While backwater worlds still use the same STC and use good ol' steel.

>>31545651
Exactly! Ever since I heard /k/ommando, I remembered this mini and the other kommandos, since I came to 40k before I did to 4chan. Also, Blood Axes seem like a pretty /k/ klan.

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>>31545654
>Steel

Pppffft I hope you mean normal homogenized steel, we cant afford armor steel. Just be happy we're not using Iron like they do in Vostroya!

>>31545701
Nigga plz. Puddle iron! And them Vostroyan gitz would probably use brass.

>/k/ in 40k
>they have a reputation for being the worst IG regiment in Imperial history
>but sometimes pull off amazing victories
>not even armed with lasguns only 38,000 year old auto gun patterns
>some guardsmen have a strange obsession with a place called "Rhodesia"

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>>31545673

As a young kid, I liked Goffs.

As an adult, I think the Blood Axes are way cooler.

I wonder why that is?

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>Living life in a cozy swamphole of a planet
>shootin' what i eat and eatin' what i shoot
>getting some well deserved off time at local cantina
>these dickheads in fancy clothes come barging in
>conscripts every jackass in the bar, including myself
>these assholes are too fucking poor to even give me a decent gun, the las-lock i had back home was miles ahead of this piece of shit smoke pole. At least it shoots straight
>impress my CO with my marksmanship skills and outdoor knowledge
>get on track to being a somebody in this retarded army
>haven't even been shipped out to some emprah forsaken hell hole yet
>Commissar is giving a sermon one day
>Sneeze
>by some miracle i was only flogged, instead of just outright shot
>get demoted
>switched to some faggot misfit unit
>half the fuckers in here are ratlings and penalbirds

So how long do i got to live, guys?

>>31545802

This is absolutely it

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>>31545369
>seeing how their task should be near-impossible for the common imperial guard, yet IG still stands doing the impossible
That's because they will write off billions of losses like nothing. If they can't fix the problem by throwing men at it, they just throw MORE men at it. Imagine losing the equivalent of several WW2s in men in the span of a few months. This is standard procedure for the IG.

Crusade-era space marine legions were brutally efficient in taking hold of inhospitable planets populated by unspeakable horrors, planets with already functional government and armies, and even planets inhabited by forces with SUPERIOR technology.

>>31545927
Do you realise that it's a deffskull, roit? Anyway, it is an awesome pic. And I'm slowly but steadily building deffskull/snakebite/bloodaxe combined clan. My shock troops are going to be nobz on warboars, with warboss and shaman-dok. Because fuck you, that's why. With a dash of support from tankised battle-wagon, some artillery pieces, couple deffkoptas for air support, reconissance and hit and run tactics, to which I plan to make a crateful of molotovs in homage to Captain Gyro from MadMax2, and buncha orkz with shootas and rifle plates. Oh, and that one SM dreadnaught my friend never used I'm planning to loot and orkify for Ol' Zoglegz.

WAAAGH!

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>>31545360
.50 cals are still considered and used as heavy stubbers. Some detachments of certain regiments such as the Death Korps actually prefer heavy stubbers to the more traditional pintle-mounted mounted storm bolters or sponson-mounted heavy bolters on their vehicles.

Heavy bolters are .998 cal; regular bolters are .75 cal.

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>>31546376
Thank you.

Ya git.

mechanicus
we would all just fuck guns until the end of time

>>31545369

I don't doubt that 40K SM are gimped as fuck. Guillieman purposefully split the legions up to prevent another rebellion. In 40K SM are made out to be Mary Sues, yet the battles they participate in are always either critical battles, or ones they are certain to win. Even then, when they win a critical battle, they lose so much shit that the chapter is out of commission for decades, sometimes even centuries, while it replenishes losses.

Remember that HH novels hint that Guillieman wanted to make his own empire. This is speculation: splitting up the legions were a means to achieve that end. Remember that most of the successor chapters were from the Ultramarines. He just didn't count on getting wrecked by Fulgrim and put into stasis, so that kinda scuppered that plan. Then the high lords sorta took over and fast forward 10,000 years, you have the 41st millennium, where there is only war blah blah.

>>31546143

This. Crusade-era SM were mass produced super human warriors that could be thrown at a problem until it was solved. Some legions reflected this more than others (Iron Warriors, Death Guard, World Eaters), but in the end, all legions fought tooth and nail, using tactics that were considered barbaric even by the barbaric empires they subjugated, and they suffered massive losses against superior foes.

If it weren't for the primarchs holding the leash and directing the war dogs, the legions would've destroyed themselves against superior enemies. Hence why the Emps was in such a rush to find his sons, before shit got real.

I like 40K, shame it's such a cluster fuck of lore. It's turning into Star Wars EU. Might be time to move on to something else.

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>>31546143
Death Korps is best korps
Any of the dawn of wars have them, or any mods for them?

>>31546683
2 has a DLC for them and 1 has a mod for them
The thing I love about Death Korp is that they are one of the few regiments were officere wear a Cuirass

>>31546630
I stick mostly to Warhammer fantasy. it fulfills my 16th century boner and my fantasy boner.


Course the Sigmarines and the end times totally fucking killed it for me.

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>>31545953
Underdogs are usually the best at survival.

also, welcome to /k/ batallion

>>31546630
To be quite honest here, the fact that Cadian Gate still stands is pretty much testament that IG is actually far superior as an organization than any SM legion or chapter is, afterall the CSM is the closest to what 40k has of the HH SM.

IG has even stood against enemies that the HH SM never had to, and prevailed.

Its bullshit lore, but still if you look it as winners losers perspective.. Imperium and IG is the top dog, barely scraping to win against ALL races at the same time. Great Crusade SM's and HH SM's didn't need to deal with Eldar, Necrons, Tyranids etc.

>>31543418
Mah nigguh

>>31543422
That's the novels where each marine is noarderline a marvel superhero.

Early fluff and table top wise space marines fear auto cannons which are 20th century 20mm bofors.

Yeah a space marine wpuld be scary and expensive to taje down as you'd need anti tank weaponry to defeat their armor. So equip your squad with RPG's and you are good to go.

>>31545197
Game balance.

Fluff wise bolters are rare and expensive yet table top even guard sargents can take em

Really for lore, guardsmen should be able to field heavy stubbers and utilize Multi-lasers more since they are the only faction to really have them and the whole fuff reason is tgat laser gun battery packs are cheaper to make than bolters hence guard regiments are armed with lasguns which has a universal ammo that any regiment can use.

Really leman russ tanks should have multi laser optikns for sponsons or at least fir the front hull mounted gun, so either choose a las cannon for anti tabk, or multi laser for anti armored infantry and their transports.

Howver GW executives, writers and investors have been fuck heads ever since GW went public snd now fluff or game balance dose not matter and they just powercreep with new codexes and making new units out of nowhere.

>>31545576
This. Lasguns badically hit like a 50 BMG. But without the recoil and bigger las weapons like cannons can destroy most tanks and monsterous creatures in one or two hits and multi lasers light up transports and infantry.

And technically they all use the same power source, it's just that for more of tge damage, the bigger the battery you need.

>>31545927
Blood Axes used to be the most powerful clan as they were the most intelligent and hired themselves out as mercs and even do protection rackets on small isolated human worlds and would trade and barter with otger aliens.

More importantly, sibce tgey were the first ork clan to have contsct with humans, even before the empire, they learned how to use operator like tactics that don't get you killed instantly like a typical ork charge. They'd flank, ambuse and even retreat tactically, not out of fear to get better weapobs or reinforcements if tgey came up against a meat grinder.

Blood axes favored ranged weapons, used cover and camoflauge and had the most mechanized forces.

Orks love and live to fight, but blood axes want to live to win fights and actually care about their survival and ammo stockpiles to a degree.


Other primitive orks thought their behavior was un otky and all of tge other dumb clans banded together and shattered the Blood Axes, perhaps setting back the ork race a few centuries as now the Goffs and other typical orks don't give much thought to tactics and just rush in and get baited easily and waste tgeir time with unvaluable worlds instead of securing strategic ones.

Death skulls salvage all the wrecked left overs and sell the best guns and snazzy uniforms Bad Moons who are rich due to their biological quirk of growing extra teeth and Evil Suns absorbed their mechanics and called dibs on vehicles but favored fast buggies bikes and planes over tanks.

Blood Axe's Still exist but now is small groups comparatively and work as Kommando Battalians for other clans and sometimes Rogue traders and tau

>>31546843
This, they literally killed the warhammer world and Bretonians...I'm out until warhammer comes back.

>>31543580
>cringy edgelord/sperge game. The cognitive dissonance of the fluff alone fucking hurts my head

This. I kinda wanted to get in to it, but after watching a bunch of youtube and listening to an audiobook, I've changed my mind. I think I'll go back to DnD.

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Are you faggots even serious? Still talking about calibers and ballistics like a bunch of fucking savages.

>plasma pulse
>induction field acceleration
>gyroscopic weapon stabilizer for aim and angle correction for long distance and accurate shooting
>muh marksmanship
>capacity of 50 shots per powercell
>rapes greenskins

Bolter-fags GTFO.

>>31551854
My main problem is that it just cycled into ridiculousness overall. The fluff became a comic book instead of semi-sorta plausible. Nuance was completely destroyed, like the concept that Space Marines were supposed to be the only real defense for Humanity against the dangers of the Warp and such, but the Marines themselves gave up their humanity and ultimately became that which they are supposed to hate as they despise the weak humans and purge them indiscriminately. Or that the Emperor came to free Humanity from the shackles of religion and blind obediemce, but ultimately became the very thing he was trying to stop. Now days it's just autistic kiddies and douchebros in the scene.

Idk I guess I just grew up and wanted more maturity from my games. I loved Necromunda but 40k has gone off the rails.

>>31545338
>red ligh
I don't know why this makes me laugh so much harder than the rest of the list, but it does.

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>>31545318
What the fuck did you just fucking say, you god damn heretic?

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>>31550965
Do you even Goff

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>>31552989
Red light - Though this Kustom Bit is little more than a small red light bulb, Orks swear it improves a weapon’s accuracy. It functions as a Imperial Red-Dot Laser Sight and can be fitted on any Ork ranged weapon.

>>31543384
The emperor would probably put an end to /k/'s disgusting civic nationalism/lolbergism and put them to use on something important.

>>31553971
>forty first Millennium
>empypoo doing anything that doesn't involve astrogation, getting millions of psykers sacrificed to him and holding back the very warp gate he made from consuming all of Terra

>>31553996
it's all the fault of the crimson jew

>>31552134
fucking knife eared blueberry. Fight me up close.

>>31545802
At the end of a campaign, surviving guardsmen are often awarded settlement rights of a planet they secured. Rhodesia will be a whole planet

>>31543422
A space marine is just a fast, heavy armored fanatic soldier, but blow him up with a big weapon or make enough holes in it with AP weapons and he will die like every living thing

>>31549105
Well, the Cadian Gate is the second most fortified location in the entire Imperium.

>>31554028
Magnus tried to WARN the Emperor.
It's the fault of that fucking Lorgar faggot.

>>31555746
Tzeentch pls go

>>31543422
>A single space marine could take on several battalions of Army Rangers and a Platoon of Abrams before he was even wounded.
Not on the tabletop though. There it worth around 4-5 conscripts with AKs...

>>31543384
What does the 40k stand for?

>>31550648

I now want a Leman russ with Multi-lasers for each gun port.

>>31545285
someone call /tg/ i see a sect of the mechanicus centered around the murder kube

if anyone is to blame its Lorgar for letting Erebus live

>>31543422
>>31543524

You do understand that a Space marine's power armor isn't that powerful. A direct hit from 120mm, no less a 40mm, could fuck up his day.

Furthermore, his bolter isn't that powerful against armor. If he's using a standard bolter, which I think is firing .75 gyrojet rockets, at best they could penetrate a MRAP if he's lucky.

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>>31543384
/k/ is Deffwotch, a bunch of crazy orks who are pretending to be (or possibly are dumb enough to actually think they ARE) a Deathwatch kill team.

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>>31546630
>Remember that HH novels hint that Guillieman wanted to make his own empire.
Nigger, you being on /k/ should understand that was the only option available.
He had zero information of any kind regarding the Sol system and almost no factual information about the Heresy in general. The route to Terra was plagued by Warp storms that he had no means of navigating. There were at least 2 traitor legions and all of their support, including 3 primarchs, still at large in Ultramar.
Best case scenario, he can move to reinforce Terra with a giant force the second the Warp storms abate. Worst case scenario his forces are now the last remains of the Imperium of Man and only in uniting in a fortified position can give them a fighting chance.

>>31545299
Marines can still utterly crush the whole conventional army, if they have the means to always outmaneuver an enemy and dictate the fighting on their terms. It would be messy, slow and a horrible misappropriation of Marines, but a squad of Marines that can resupply themselves and can move around uncontested would easily take over a planet by completely destroying their military, not just making it ineffective.
This is one of the examples from the new fluff
>be Marines
>arrive at Eldar planet
>set the planet on fire by firebombing it from orbit
>drop down to the planet
>run around the Amish eldar who can't catch up to you with their dinosaurs, setting everything even more on fire with your flamer

>>31543384
I imagine it'd be full of "hotshot vs lasgun" threads and discussions on how extreme bolter recoil actually is.

>>31557355
Oh great, they won against fucking savages. I'd reckon that they won't do so hot if they'd crashland on planet Earth circa right now.

>>31543418
I want my space M4 too.

>>31543384
>W40k

Ah, the cringiest fanbase ever.
How does it feel to know that even Sonicfags count as relatively well-adjusted members of society compared to you?

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>>31557436
I was talking about marines in 40k in general, not any of these stupid arguments.
Still, a Marine squad or two that could resupply themselves and somehow move around unmolested would easily cripple any of our countries. A squad of Marines just rampaging around would do horrible damage to the immediate area, but they would be brought down once the serious firepower rolls in or through attrition.

>>31557488
>whynotboth.jpg

A single squad of marines could and would decapitate the entirety of American government and military capability in an hour. It really wouldn't be that hard since the White House, Capitol building, and Pentagon are all in the same city.

Seriously, one drop pod of Sternguard and the America is kaput. Same goes for Russia or China or any other nation.

>>31557580
How would space marines resupply? They don't have any steath capability given that all their vehicles have the shape and aerodynamic profile of a toaster. They'd do one thing, get spotted and then immediately fucking die to any IFV that got into shooting range.

>>31557604
>IFV
Yeah, because squads of Marines don't normally have Melta or Plasma with them. Do you even 40k?
Marines run too fast for the IFV to engage properly anyways, and many have jet packs. Your precious vehicles are fucked, kiddo.

>>31556981
40,000 as is the year 40,000AD

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>>31557625
What 40k doesn't remind people of since the boards are so small is that both of those are outranged like bitches by literally anything vehicle mounted.
>Spacies land in Germany
>ayy lmao Puma in 500 meter distance
>plas has like 50 meter range, melta 25
>ded
>take off with ebin jetpacks
>Puma literally designed to do AA on the side next to raping infantry
>ded

>>31557604
The Space Marines actually do have ways to shorten engagements & last longer. Their armor is solar powered & somehow recycles their waste into food. Many chapters usually drop their pods into an enemy base & cut off the head whenever feasible. Thing is, this is assuming they have the means to do so & I doubt a single non-primarch marine would have the authority to do such a thing.

>>31557625
Not all have those. Plasma guns are damn rare & Meltas aren't exactly super long range. You'd need to be in a considerably close distance to use either anyway.

>>31557657
>implying that gun is over str 6
>implying it's AA weapons are higher than str 3
>implying any of it's weapons are AP3 or lower

Nigga just stop. That thing would die to one silver potato to the tail pipe and the Space Marines would just move on their merry way.

>>31557695
Their armor is fucking fusion powered dude.

>>31557711
Any squad can get 2 plasma guns or melta guns, or trade one for a heavy weapon like a plas cannon, a multi-melta, a heavy bolter, or a missile launcher that can shoot across an entire board space.

>>31557712
Its main gun IS the AA gun. And it's a 30mm with brand spanking new APFSDS ammo on one side and hilarious tungsten shrapnel bombs on the other. They already lost mate.

>>31543384
Probably captured by the Inquisition and put to torture for arguing about the lack of Rights and freedoms or engaging in dragon-dildo related Degeneracy

>>31557714
Some are. Some others need a starter but can take solar power to continue.

>>31557738
Not any squad. In the crunch, yes if they have the points. In the fluff some of those are considerably rare & there not enough to go around.

>>31557805
>Not kitting your squads out with special weapons in a real 40k game
Fail
>using fluff as an argument basis
In the fluff Ragnar Blackmane jumps on the back of a swarmlord and slays it in one stroke. Fluff Marines from the 40k era are incomparable to our modern armies.

>>31557436
To be fair the muhreens landed on an eldar planet protected by the green/white (Bel'tan?) eldar and began to burn it to death because they were pissed the Bel'tan were stopping their progress. All of this to literally lure out one fucking eldar and put a bolter in her xenos heretic face

>>31557657
Autocannon has 48'' range. Puma's gun has quoted range of 3000 meters. So it 62.5 meters per inch.
Plasma is 24" or 1500 meters.
Melta is 8'' or 500 meters.

>ayy lmao Puma in 500 meter distance
Dead.

>>31557740

The basic infantry lasgun transfers more energy to its target than a APFSDS doesfrom a 120mm rheinmetall gun.

IF we converted everything we have now to the table top rules (which aren't cannon strengths by anymeans) Most of our infantry weapons would be Str 1-2 and most of our large vehicle mounted weapons would be str 3-4

Going by different books it only takes about 10 space marines to subjugate a planet of our size and tech level.

Hell if any rank of Librarian attacked this planet they could probably take it by themselves.

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>>31557712
>can't penetrate shit ass bolted together armor because muh powerlevels
>the guys without helmets are the most resilient because meme magic

>>31553996
>Implying the God Emperor of Mankind, may he live forever, does anything other than sit in his chair

>>31557880
It's a nice chair, at least.

>>31557861
Nope. Spacies die easy to scrubs with Autoguns , which are just our rifles. See >>31545182. An IFV would stop them flat and ask for more.

>>31545643
Yeah, it has RHA of 400mm , it aint shit.

>>31557861
Not to mention the countries that would probably support him in his endeavor

>>31557917
its not far fetched to assume that autoguns are more powerful than modern firearms even if they have similarities. 38,000 years is a long time to develop new ammo, and materials that could boost performance.

>>31557834
>using Space Marines
>not Imperial Guard

>fluff as argument
>implying crunch is canon
>implying Space Marines are really just a bit better than guardsmen
>implying outliers are the norm
Hive Tyrants casually chew though even Assault Marines. The Swarmlords especially & the Ultrasmurfs lost plenty of men to that Hive Fleet. Some special snowflake young wolf isn't a good representation of the Space Marines as a whole.

>>31557946
Actually, there's plenty of difference among the technology of the planets. Stubbers tend to be WW2 & prior, Autoguns tend to be close to 21th century but with caseless ammo. Also they tend to be made of plasteel.

>>31552134
>gyroscopic weapon stabilizer for aim and angle correction for long distance and accurate shooting
We have an equivalent of this. They're called thumbs.

>>31557946

W40k powerlevels are not even slightly internally consistent, basically "it's magic I ain't gotta explain shit," but with meme science instead of magic.
Trying to apply them to real combat situations makes about as much sense as arguing whether the Celtic pantheon could defeat the Hittite one, or how many US Marines would it take to defeat the Sun.

>>31558081
>>31558092
Just because they are mechanically similar to current firearms or even older ones they still might be more powerfull, plasteel can probably hold more pressure than modern steel. Combined with advances in propellant probably give autoguns or even stubbers significantly higher muzzle velocities over current firearms. not to mention the ammo that might be available in the future.

Naw, auto gun is S3, does the same as being stabbed by a typical S3 guardsman.

>>31558164
>might be
>can probably
>probably give
>might be

>lol its 40k years later and everyone uses tech that looks like Chechen mecha nerds built it out of scrap metal but it's somehow powerful enough to wipe out entire systems because magic tech

>>31549105
>Horus Heresy/Great Crusade mehreens
>didn't need to deal with Eldar
Know No Fear's smurfs have a running inside joke about one time they fought an Eldar craftworld. Loken strangled an Eldar ranger with a length of wire and kept the wire as one of his battle trophies. Fulgrim literally has lunch with Eldrad and kills an Avatar of Khaine a few minutes later. The cover of Aurelian has Lorgar standing over another dying Avatar. Ferrus, the Iron Hands, and their Army allies fight an Eldar force in one of the Iron Hands short stories, too.

>>31558288
>>31558304
>>31558311

40/k/ is basically jerking off about generation purge and shitposting about how the Lasgun is the best gun for every role because it's cheap and the has a great aftermarket.

>Autogun only 40 rounds kek

>Sure Taunik the your new BMP can fly but you can't even produce 500 million in with a sol year in your broke ass empire inb4 treads are a 40 thousand year old meme

>>31558350
I assume all of this shitposting would be condensed into screeches of binary as we Fuc-I mean Fix guns and other wargear as a mechanicus should.

>>31558395
>Cadia shit planets trying to emulate their uniforms like they're special.
>Hur dur we fight the endless darkness look at our uniforms
>Ignore the fact we are all 5'9 and haven't left pleasure world 547
>Fucking stolen valor PDF's half of them are probably cultists anyway and the other will half mutate as soon as they are exposed to the great Enemy.

>>31558164
Special ammo is confirmed but aside from plasteel construction, they're pretty much today's weapons, or at least modern enough, but with caseless ammunition. Autoguns look enough like an AR, Auto Pistols are pretty much Mac-10s, etc.

40k technology is gradually getting worse, thanks to no one doing a backup of their database before it was literally demon-raped.

Eventually the IG will end up with nuggets. Spess Mahreens will be allowed AR15s.

>>31543384

Who /TauEmpire/ here? Hell yeah, fuck the Imperium, faggots. I'll be over here with my superior technology, way of life, and everything else.

The only decent Imperials are the Space Wolves and White Scars. Everyone else is shit and living under shitty authoritarianism.

Farsight 4 Lyfe.

>>31557846
>assign arbitraty value from board game to real life weapon
>asspulling this hard
nah 40k getting fucked in this instance

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>>31558941
Squats are the Best.

>>31558972

I won't deny this, but they're dead. OR ARE THEY? I wish the Squats and Tau would seriously team up as some things have suggested have happened.

>>31558972
shame they got retconned.

>>31558941
>being the mind fucked commies of the galaxy
kek, if I'm going to be having the boot to my throat I'd prefer it to be human.

>>31559785

What about communism isn't going to help us in the future? The Tau Empire is a well oiled machine that helps when it can and the only thing really fucked up is the Ethereals. It's a good thing. Put away your retard Imperial propaganda.

>>31558972
>Durr orks and literal magic make sense in 40k but dwarves? Too much fantasy shit

Fuckin gw

>>31559832
They have no vested interest in the survival of any species but their own, by taking their guns, their culture and their supplies you are owned by them.

They are going to be absolutely fucked the minute the tyranids make headway into their empire because they aren't willing to do what is needed or even have the tech to do what is necessary to slow the encroachment.

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i'd be innajungle stealthily removing xeno for the emperor

>>31559881

Imperial propaganda. Fuck off. They're cool, you're gay. Enjoy your slavery.

>>31544404
Catachans in some books joke about killing chaos space marines no problem

>>31554069
>implying you will ever get within 500 yards of me.

>>31559977
Well they are abnormally stronger, faster and stealthier compared to normal city born humans, dosen't really translate into stats, but basically catachan men and women are 6 foot plus lean muscled body builders that get that way from surviving in one of the galaxy's most dangerous jungle planet. They hunt dinosaurs with knives for BBQ days.

Also, remember, anti tank weapons defeat space marine power armor. May be a waste of shots but during a game I had some great dice rolls my two ork tanks buster mobs did a number on a squad of a chaos space marines scoring 9 wounds out of 20 shots so all was left of a ten man squad of chaos marines was the sargeant and he failed his moral check and ran away.

So yeah catachans can probably take out chaos marines just fine with missile launchers, and demolition charges (basically tossing a C-4 brick).

Catachans are probably the only guardsmen with the balls to pull out knives and fight chaos marines in melee...but remember athletic bodies or no, they are just humans...I can totally see a Catachan Officer with a power axe being lucky with dice rolls.

Heck, had a steel legion junior officer who suffered a wound but killed an ork war boss in closs combat with a bolt pistol. I cut off his hand and replaced it with a hook and called him captain hook.

>>31558085
>electronics assisted aiming to optimally hit enemies at significantly longer ranges than a biological eye can see and target
>"thumbs"

Nigger, if you're one of those plebeians that swear on iron sights above all else, then get the fuck back into the coffin that was dug a decade ago.

>>31560378
>mfw seeing foes blown to hamburger meat through:
>disciplined pulse rifle barrages
>pathfinders armed with gl-armed carbines and anti-armor rail-rifles marking everything for artillery strikes
>broadside railguns
>hammerhead railguns
>hungry kroot slug throwers and pissed off flying vespid crystal gunners

How are blue-skinned aliens more /k/ than the shit descendants we shit out?

>>31557917
Space marines on the TT are not supposed to be like those in fluff. GW purposefully makes them less powerful because nobody wants to play a game with only 10-20 men. Also it lets them sell more models...

>>31558909
And it all comes full circle.

>tfw my external hard-dive died yesterday

>>31559881
Catch up on the lore.

Guardsmen who have been left behind after a campaign who have accepted The Greater Good are given their own land and are given the opportunity to take up arms provided by the Tau Empire to fight as auxiliary forces. Much like how the Roman Empire did.

They have their old Guard armor but are armed with pulse weaponry.

>>31559832
>tfw the tau empire has one of the highest (if not the highest) standards of living in the galaxy

The blue guys come with one of their leaders telling you to join The Greater Good rather than immediately shoving a bolter against your forehead, calling you a (potential) heretic, and pulling the trigger.

Not to mention if your lust for battle and blood really gets high, you can just join their Gue'la auxiliary forces and go kill some shit.

Not an entirely bad deal.

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>Tfw Imperial Citzen in a civilised world
>Turn 16 you are press ganged into Imperial Guard
>You Basic Training lasted 2 weeks
>You learned to shot, reload and obey you superior and shit
>Get raped.exe
>You and you battalion are shipped in a large Cathedral Ship with at least thousand more Guardsman
>Feelsbad.jpg
>They dont tell shit to no ones, they said the trip will last at least 2 months in the Warp
>WTFISWARP.jpg
>Gangs of Hive World clash everyday in the interior of the Ship.
>Rapes are constantly and for you luck a strange Warlord think you cute and make you his personal torture fuck doll
>Get Raped.exe
>Trip took 13 months
>Half of your battalion died in gang wars.
>You got luck and survived.
>The ship arrived in the Orbit of a Planet close to something called Eye of Terror.
>LOLWUT you and what survived of your battalion are dropped in the devasted planet into a purple miasma of pure fuck.
>A horde of Heretical Horros Beyond human mind can create is closing to your position.
>A fucking succubus-semen demon stab you belly and start to lick your face with her warn tong
>Feelsgood.jpg
>You dick hard now
>She's propose a deal
>Your soul for eternal service into a a guy with funny name
>You accept the deal.
>You get your soul raped for eternal existence.

Such is the life in 40K Universe

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Solar Auxillia Volkite Rifleman brochachos, the Guard have some catching up to do.

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>>31559003
Squats still exist
>>31559869
It's a strange day when the typically most technologically advanced race & even the 2nd most advanced in Fantasy Battle (fucking Skaven) isn't in space yet the tree-hugging Elves are in space.

>>31561069
>The blue guys come with one of their leaders telling you to join The Greater Good rather than immediately shoving a bolter against your forehead, calling you a (potential) heretic, and pulling the trigger.
I know it's in one ear out the other with preaching to heretics, but referring to xenos as "guys", and putting alien lives on an equal pedestal as a human life, doesn't make you a "potential" heretic, because if you look at a six-eyed bipedal flying bug and think "friend", it's not the rest of humanity that's wrong, it's you.

>>31557917
they are considered the same power as 50cals.

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I've got a "Different take" on 40k bolter ammo a buddy of mine & I came up with one slightly inebriated afternoon a ways back.

Partially disintegrating case/propellant cylinder (like a space age version of cellulose tank shell propellant) + integrated drive band on the bolt-itself that works with gain-twist rifling.

TL:DR Version: A good bro of mine & I decided to un-gay & apply some rationality to theoretical 40k tech re-designs. In effect, we just took pre-heresy/great-crusade era shit & re-did it/developed it further.

>>31562171
Oh, look, a child who loves 40k "h3r3zy" memes.

>>31562171
Don't tell me, you hate spics and niggers. And the occasional cross burning.

>>31562425
Could you please redesign the fucking Rhino and make it look less retarded

>>31562425
Let's be real, 40k's Imperium of Man's pseudo-religious take on fucking TECHNOLOGY is just edgelord shit writing. With fucking priests having to jerk their dicks to make sure a fucking gun or a tank is not heretical. How is that not just the most anti-/k/ thing ever?

>>31562863
What's wrong with the Rhino anon-chan?

>supposed to carry more than three hulks onto and across the battlefield
>not terribly different from an actual armored vehicle we'd have today

>>31561944
What's that thing on his back? A double chain-blade?

>side-grip
>drum mag
>hnnnng

>>31559884
When everybody is Rambo, then nobody is Rambo.

>>31559869
>tree-hugging elves

It's called Wraithbone you tard

>>31558484
Breaking news: Imperial Guardsmen are shite. Now to the weather. Well shit, a fucking Warpstorm.

>>31558326
>gw fluff

grimdarkek

>>31562863
I've got a buddy who's studying armored vehicle design; when next I get the chance; I'll chuck him a request for suggestions, see what can be done.

>>31562863
>He doesn't like metal boxes
Get a load of this heretic.

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>>31562889
Mhm, and bro, upscaled AR18 bolter just wants to be your friend.

>>31562942
It's part of a chain-drive system on some insane retrofit of a power-supply for the suit & and a life support system.

fuckin' 30k was the tits.

>>31563140
I'm already edging to the idea of that

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Join these motherfuckers

>>31543418
This

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>>31543824
> Makes /pol/ look like pacifist tolerant hippies

>>31560576
I'm just talking fluff. Catachans in the fluff are worth like 10 normal guardsman

>battle falls quiet
>the last of the ultramarines fall dead
>orks begin looting umie weapons
>the sky splits open
>a thousand drop pods begin falling from the sky
>the nugget marines have arrived
>orks begin falling over
>they can't find where the gunfire is coming from
>the nugget marines are shooting from so far away they have to compensate for the curvature of the planet
>greenskins warboss is the last to fie
>operator status: smooth

So the /k/ marines would purge the greenskins right?

Their guns are just tubes with bullets rammed in. They only work because they think they'll work.

>>31559977
> Live on a planet several times earth's gravity
> Everything on the planet can and will kill them
> Spend most of the day making a knife or burning away rapidly growing flora
> Muscles become so thick that they count as body armor
> Strong enough to carry a goddamn heavy bolter turret like its a toy
> Commissars are afraid of these motherfuckers
> The rest of the universe is like a walk through central park at night compared to the horrors they grow up with

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>>31564398
Autokrátōrdamndable xeno loving traitor.
Take this bayonet & sit on it.

>>31564612
Purge the space chechens? You bet, little filthy slavkebabs ruin everything they touch.

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>>31564655
Spare me, gue'la. oh and while your at it, eat plasma fire with that bayonet

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>>31564692
Another reminder of the superiority of Space Dwarfs.

>>31564714
Tau have the demiurg, soooooo....

>>31564725
>Tau have a no-name race who doesn't stand out from the rest of the Tau in any way but being Dwarfs

>>31564757
They still have dwarves

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>>31564692

Bro, can we not bribe you to the light of the Emperor through the glory of the keymod bolter?

battle armor

Kreygasm

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>>31562962
That's a world I want to live in

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>>31543418
Truth also we inquisition now

Are the Tau the only race to use non retarded battle tactics?

>>31566270
>all they do is firing lines
>against a galaxy where the most common enemy can shrug off more hits than a coked up somali being shot at with 9mm
>not even the best at shooting
>lose to everyone in melee

No, their tactics are pretty shit tbqh.

https://youtu.be/6-9XSiNfgk0?t=10m50s

>>31546683
Im reading "Dead Men walking" right now....the fuck man....
>you and your buddy 813 attack Necrons
>buddy is kill
>buddy is replaced by 812 who is now 813
>if it wasnt for having seen your buddy die you would never know

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>>31545509

>>31545509
not all PDF use autoguns.

think of it this way.

las weapons are logistically great and moderately expensive

autoguns are dirt cheap, the tech required to produce ammo is cheap and easy to, and for most domestic problems(cults/civilian-uprisings) they are more than adequate.


You do not equip a army that will on one month be fighting on a hive world and the next on a feudal world with autoguns.

However PDF forces never leave their systems so the question of ammo production is a nonissue.

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immm fuckign plying that /k/ would be anything other than the most autistic forge world in the galaxy with a fascination for boxes made of guns

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So does the Emperor keep a gun he took from a drug dealer?

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>>31568384
Probably a gold deagle or gold 1911
Or pic related.

>>31566328

>blow everyone the fuck out constantly except when it's an Imperial codex or story where the Emperor's dick is personally sucked by four million psykers
>integrate those that can fight in melee to fight with you and equip them appropriately and bring them into the fold of the Greater Good

I'd say blowing everyone up before they reach you is a pretty good tactic. Are you one of those guys that goes "BROADSIDE PLASMA CAN'T MELT TERMINATOR ARMOUR?"

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>>31558245
A hit from a blunderbuss stil hurts.

>>31569246
Motorboating the tummy? That's utterly degenerate.

>>31545338
>klip

No wonder the Imperium wants them burned.

>>31564398
Communism is never the answer.

>>31572724

Yes it is, faggot. Join or be asked to join again and then if you don't accept we'll ask you once more. Then you die.

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Oy dunno why 'ese twats hate hi-point dakkas so bloody much. Goes boom an' splits 'em faggy space boyz erry time.

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>>31558326
The Space Wolvers also rekt a eldar craftworld so hard that the Imperial Army was afraid to ask them for help again.

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>M41
>Not M30

FUCK OFFFFFF

>>31543422
a spacemarine is only worth ten mortal men in combat
muhreen fag BTFO

>>31573920
Somehow I doubt that, considering Marines are already elite fighters before they even get implanted with the gene seed and that fancy armor

>>31573782
>alt Switzerland still neutral

>>31543796

The joints are protected with layered shifting titanium alloy that's virtually indestructible to small arms damage.

The armor is servo assisted but the super human inside can move the armor if it loses power.

The being inside the armor that can take almost any modern tank blast and not shrug can survive having his limbs removed, and the near destruction of the lower body.

Cybernetics and a sub-dermal plate of further metal melded to a synthetically reinforced skeleton render the blunt impact force of any modern small arm insufficient.

Try again.

Also, Bolters, and if they have a Las gun, say goodbye to pretty much any ground armor.

At least half of us would fall to Khorne

Whoever's left would be >>31566872

>>31574158
except for you know they routinely die to 30mm auto cannons which are far less powerful than a 120mm cannon, and are on par with Apache main guns. Also where did you get this crasy idea that las guns can do appreciable damage to anything that isn't infantry (did you mean las cannons?)? 1 space marine vs more than one tank = dead space marine 1 space marine vs more than one attack helicopter = dead space marine and while most modern assault rifles don't have the penetration needed for most parts of a space marines armor most modern crew served weapons would destroy them.

Got us did nothing wrong.

>>31545802
Why does /k/ love Rhodesia so much? I'll admit I don't know much about the country, but it seems odd for /k/ to love a south African country as much as it does.

Honestly I would probably try to join the Tau if I was in 40k.

> Modern tactics and strategies
> Excellent individual equipment
> Pathfinders are operator
> Doesn't use human wave tactics, even for humans
> Uses every species in the roles at which they excel
> Small, but extremely efficient

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>>31546683
The Death Korps has life in 40k figured out. Since you're going to die a horrible death, you might as well be raised from birth to look forward to it. You're pretty lucky if you get to be born in the Death Korps.

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>>31568744
>engravings

>>31579472
fugg awf baws.

engravings act as a signal mirror and fire starter. i am jus 2 operator 4 u

>>31560576
So you just made your officer into a discount comissar Yarrick?

>>31578990

If you don't like the Tau, you're an idiot. They're legitimately the best and willing to adapt to different things and people. They even let you keep your culture as long as it doesn't completely conflict with the Greater Good.

Of course, they will genocide you if you're a cunt but they're not the Imperium who will genocide you because you have some ingrown hairs.

Humans are treated extremely well within the Tau Empire.

For the Greater Good.

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>>31580784
>no glorious melee combat
>developing AI
>probably using genetic cheat codes or some shit for the rapid tech advances
>slaves to the blue man group
>no sexy cyber-gothic aesthetic
>tau ladies have no tiddies
>weeb magnets
>shitty names for everything
>no glorious emprah
>not even human
>fish of fucking fury

nah m8 tau a shit

>>31580850

Eat plasma, nerd.

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>>31580935
We'll see who's the nerd when we exterminatus your planet, f-faggot.

>>31545071
That's a company with all their gear though.

I'm not saying it's not reasonable they should have it, but said gear includes the strike cruiser they deploy from - a starship more than 4 km long capable of planetary bombardment

>>31580980

What if we team up against the Tyranids?

Tech Priests would purge 4chan of their net for heresy. Then the Arbates and Inquisition would rounds us all up. We would end up in a penal legion prison on some asteroid. Where the 1000 calorie a day diet, constant brawling, incredibly hard physical training done by the commissar, etc leaves the survivors a bunch of hardened sociopaths. Who will go on a suicide mission, just to get away from the prison.

then after a dozen mission where 90% of us died. The commissar tells us that those were just for training. The real suicide mission is now starting. On the way to the mission a random glitch in the shielding lets the warp into the ship. Ship is flooded with daemons, and half us die just trying to get our lasguns out of the armory. Another half die fighting the daemons. We crash land on the planet with just 20 of us left.

the planet we are on is an imperial world. where a fortress city has been under seige for 100 years. The ones in the city and the ones outside the city both think the other is the heretical one. All but 6 of us and the commissar will die getting across a no man's land that makes ww1's western front and Battle of Stalingrad look like a walk through a park on a spring day. We witness entire regiments get blown up. Because their discipline didn't allow for them to break formation and take cover from artillery fire. So they just kept marching in columns across the field.

Commissar tells us the mission is to make our way through the city to blow up the fusion power plants. Then escape the thermonuclear Armageddon by stealing a shuttle.

after fighting off hundreds of security force, only the commissar, one /k/ommando, and some other poor sod managed to escape.

oh and you were infected with a daemon along the way. So you'll eventually go mad and be killed.

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>>31549105
>IG has even stood against enemies that the HH SM never had to, and prevailed.
Sure, the Necrons had mostly not woken up and the Nids hadn't arrived.

On the other hand the Legions swept the galaxy of the horrors and uncounted alien species that had been ruling over it for several thousand years - the Great Crusade's wars to unify the galaxy were utterly immense and horrific.

Also, the Eye of Terror, including the Gate, is fortified by a group of 18 full chapters of space marines, called the Astartes Praeses

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>>31580935
we'll see how cocky you are when your genitals have been replaced with a sandwich toaster

>>31581358
If it even works. Tech Priests don't know what they are doing 3/4ths of the time. They're just going through the motions of a ritual.

>>31581358

My goat dick is so long I can shove it down your throat with the aid of markerlights, kid.

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>>31581409
>implying the sanctified sandwich toaster of the holy cheese toastie would work at all without three metric tons of mild cheddar burned at the stake

>>31581415
>pic related

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>>31545643

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>>31543395
Found the genestealer.

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>>31557580
>That pic

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>>31545197
>>31545266
The Death Korps of Krieg have twin heavy stubber team
which basically gives each one 6 S4 AP 6 twin linked shots.

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>>31580784
>tfw my 20 man Guardsmen squad butcher a dozen fire warriors in melee

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>>31581958
>in melee
A child could do that

>>31543384
/K/ would be terrible in the 41st millennium. If you read anything, private ownership of firearms is pretty much banned unless you're on a feral type world. Only the rich, the powerful and the criminals have guns regularly.

>>31545286
Entire planets receive Exterminatus the minute one rumor, reinforced with facts or not, reaches the Inquisition that there's a CHANCE a Heretic is there trying to make friends. Even if the rest of the planet is an Emperor worshiping people.

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>>31582112
ikr

>>31582132
>41k
>living in a hive world

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>>31581958

>tfw my 10 Tau Fire Warrior squad reduce your 200 man Guardsman army to ashes before getting into melee range

>>31583605
>41xx
>grunts still mad about getting the Veggie Omelette ration bar
Also good luck fighting anywhere but a Plainsworld

>>31543384
I for one welcome our chaos overlords.

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>>31583605
>ayylmao commies talking shit

>>31543384
Executed by the inquisition for worshiping some cubic avatar of khorne.
Or as slaaneshi cultists.

>>31583857

Nothing wrong with actual communism.

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>>31583918
>Nothing wrong with actual communism.

>>31583918
remove thyself.

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>>31583605
sup.

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>>31583918
.

>>31583930
>>31583933
>>31583935
>>31583946
>>31583947

Enjoy your space gulags, gue'la.

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>>31583954

>>31583946
>>31583933
>>31583857


Haha. Remember Vraks, faggots? Cry about it to the Emperor. You had your chance. You'll get another one, but still.

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>>31584083
Do you even remember who won that war?

>>31584132
The Space Marines and Inquisition following their extensive deployment following seven years of stalemate from the DKoK.

>>31584232
The Death Korps of Krieg were on the verge of winning Vraks but then chaos happened.

>>31545223
Iron Warriors

>>31584132

LOL 300 TAU VERSUS SIX HUNDRED TRILLION IMPERIALS LOL 2 TAU BEAT YOUR EMPEROR UP LOL BEATEN BY VEGETARIANS LOL HELP US SPUSS MAREHNS

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>>31580784
>>31580935
>>31583605
>>31583918
>>31583954
>>31584366
>Gets assassinated

>>31545260
>>31545297
This is accounted for in the rules. Heavy stubbers are heavy weapons, and if you fire heavy weapons on the move the hits count as snap shots, and hit on 6's.

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Who else is pumped for the genestears just because of that sweet double beral shot gun?

The auto guns don't have the 'counter Weight' block on them which is a bummer, but I bet you I'd take that block of lead of the end of my gun too.

>>31584720
>genestealers
>who are just going to end up being discount Chaos agents
BRAVO GW, BRAVO

>>31564923

Any reason why its in Greek with Roman letters and not in Latin?

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>>31583918
>except for the fact that it is communism.

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>>31582447
Those gasmask lenses are so kawaii

>>31584849
Shit ruined for life.

>>31543422
This statement is just as subjective and fluctuating as space marine power levels in 40k lore.

>>31583605
When asked to "fight like a man", you don't respond with "I can't because I am the incarnation of a cunt-face therefore woman parts therefore no".

Then again, Tautistics aren't known for being reasonable.

>>31584132
It was a stalemate, in the long term the Imperium prevented Vraks from being a huge fucking thorn in Cadia's ass, realistically though it was a suicide mission on the Vraksian's part and the kind of heroic last stand that the Imperium wanks over. Lots of unskilled men and women fighting against impossible odds, with nothing but bravery and zeal dying for a cause they believe in. Nurgle also came away from it with plague ogryns, and considering he has a private planet where he has as much horrible trench warfare as he likes on it and he didn't come up with that himself, I can imagine he must have got a huge kick out of it, Khorne probably get a pretty stiff boner whenever he thinks of Vraks, even if it's an akward one as he remembers one of his champions getting btfo.

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>>31584849
I'd love to convert some vostroyans to Horus Heresy Imperial army

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>>31585395
>tfw 36'' heavy 2 20-man squads

>>31545802
you talking about Last Chancers right? except we all volunteer

>>31582184
You realize if that were true, the Imperium would run out of planets even faster than they actually are.

WHEN WILL THE EMPEROR RETURN OR DIE FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>31582184
I think the Guard might be out of a job if everyone's truly that exterminatus-happy.

>>31578965
There's a green text but I'll make a tldr.

Basically post ww2 england gave its African colonies to the blacks(literal tribesman) and everything turned to shit, Rhodesia said fuck that, declared independence and white rule.
>bretty racist kurwa but stick around
The rest of the world including USA was like yo you fucks are racist
>while USA hung blacks for trying to eat at same counter as whites
Meanwhile in Rhodesia blacks could get education, open shop, and make money, even run for office, and they did. But some ruskies funded some commies and shit went south. So the openly racist ian smith got elected in Rhodesia and was like nah SENPAI we not commies.
The commies straight murdered people black and white and 20 year long war with short shirts and COIN war kurwa it was great.
Ian smith agrees to an election with lots of different black commie groups, a guy named Mugabe killed everyone and took power now no one has food.
It was a great place, that admitted to being racist and wanted to fix their sins to an extent but got fucked by America and the west.

>>31584720
I am, I have metal models from the 80's and I played and still play Necromunda more than I play 40k.

I'm still legit supprised they made a come back...almost wondering if squats or arbites will make a come back.

>>31584757
Gene stealer cults were always just another traitor guard list with melee specialist and warp powers.

40k is still very much a human centric story.

I've always liked them for the whole secret society conspiracy stuff.

Ever read the first Inquisitor War books?

>>31584720
I'm going to roll out with six goliath trucks with shutgun armed cultist and basically do a 40k red neck mutant alien rampage.

I'm even going to model john deer caps and paint their clothes to be denim coveralls, plaid shirts and have sacks of flour, pigs and chickens with tyranid mutations.

Then have a pair of rock drill goliaths and recreate the scene from the original Total recall with a culist with a rock drill boring into the cab and yelling "screw you benny"!

>>31543824
Nah brah. Well, maybe the furries. Muh xenos. But the Imperium honestly doesn't give a fuck as long as you praise the Emperor, purge xenos, hand over your psykers and pay your tithes. The Imperium is actually so ridiculously diverse they don't even have standardized currency or tech levels. One planet could be a lot like Earth, but two planets down the webway, you're running into cavemen who use teeth as currency. It's like if the US spread itself out across most of a galaxy and the federal government got way more lax. It has its extreme hardliners, but it also has people who are more like your average Christian- they believe in the Emperor, go to temple and really don't have much else to do with it. Even THAT isn't standardized. He's called everything from The Emperor to the Sky Father, although the basics (savoir of mankind, et cetera) remain the same. As long as you're an Emperor-loving human they're basically chill.

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Ey der u scrawny gitz. My shoota is bigga than yurz.

>>31585146

Nice Imperial propaganda, future comrade. We welcome you to the Greater Good where you can live to fight another day!

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>>31584768
Setting Reasons for my little writefaggotry project. The Space Marine Legion using it kinda pulls some Space Wolf style "Homeworld birthed culture" type schtick. They have a rather Homerian Vibe. Plus, the Trajan Pro font is fucking sexy (not actually the Roman alphabet fyi, just pretty based looking & fits a classical vibe).

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>>31580850
>slaves to the blue man group

>>31568384
The Room was a test

>>31583933
>>31583930
>>31583947
Lenin was actually Emperor, Imperium is already a totalitarian state under planned economy, capitalists BTFO

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>>31587757
>Daughter hater has blueballs from lack of family love
>knows all about blue people
Such poetry, Maybe they should play it at President Tomaru's next speech,

>>31573100
Better dead than red.

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>>31588243
>preggers a chick with brown hair
>you have brown hair
>every subsequent spawn is an inbred orange headed mutant

The taint of chaos is strong here

>>31581958
Which is why the Tau have breacher teams with plasma "shotguns" to deal with closing threats.

>tactical tau
>realizing their weaknesses
>kroot and vespid literally there to jump on faggots who fix bayonets
>now breacher teams with shotguns

It's almost as if they know to actually know how to warfare in the retarded 40k universe.