Why do you prep?

I don't. I realize there are instances where you may have limited access to resources for a short period of time, and having a 1 week water/food/shelter supply is useful as well as the means to defend yourself, but the idea of a total 'WROL' environment in modern society during this globalized era is a morbid fantasy to day dream about. I shoot guns because it's fun.

I prep because the Russians prep http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6694

>>31532275
>I must survive, for sanities sake.
You must survive to learn the English language.

>>31532275
people that feel a lack of control and hopelessness in their life often fantasize about situations where the normal order is disrupted and they get to be the GUY. the other thing people that feel hopeless and lack of control over their fate and life do is turn to religion...

see the common denominator?

Russia is preparing a massive civil defense drill.

I live in a hurricane prone portion of the world. I also like growing stuff in my garden.

I don't prep. I collect. I'm a collector.

I have a gorgeous wife and adorable child and I've seen how both nationally and worldwide things can go tits-up in the space of a second. I want them to be alive and happy (and myself to be alive and happy with them).

But then I don't prep for a Mad Max sort of world. I prep for what might be considered localized or personal SHTF scenarios; Katrina didn't see leather clad biker gangs dominating the country and I was quite comfy hundreds of miles away--but for anyone in New Orleans S had indeed HTF. If you lived in Colorado where the wildfires were sweeping through, people in Georgia didn't care but for YOU, yes SHTF. If someone kicks in your door at 2am, your neighbors don't care but in your and your family's little world SHTF fast and hard.

So I'm not preparing for zombies. I'm preparing for the word that a train carrying toxic chemicals has derailed and that we need to evacuate town NOW. I'm preparing for waking up to the smell of smoke and knowing we need to get out of the house before we die in a house fire. I'm preparing for getting laid off and not being able to find work for 6 months because nobody is hiring but the family still needs to eat and have a place to stay.

Preparing all one's effort for the least likely occurrences is silly. Preparing for common ways that your life could have major disruptions, so that you can ride them out with minimal fuss and stress, is only good sense.

i must survive, so that my cats survive.

>>31532458
Crazy cat lady detected.

>>31532275
>If you lived in Colorado where the wildfires were sweeping through
>lived in Mountain Shadows during the Waldo Canyon Fire

forest fires are kinda hard to prep for, aside from a bug-out bag.

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>not becoming Mormon for the prepper benefits and prebuilt militia

T. Watching conference right now to see if shit is gonna kick off.

I live in Australia so I prep for natural disasters.

>>31532500
That's what I'm talking about though. People argue about full innawoods vs bugging out vs bugging in. That's dumb, because not every scenario merits the same response.

If a forest fire is coming your way, bug out, that's what makes sense--and having a bugout bag ready for your car that includes all your vital documents along with any irreplaceable heirlooms is huge, so you can get out without wasting potentially precious time trying to pack. If the national economy crashes and you lose your job with no good chance of getting a new one, what use is bugging out?

>>31532375
Well said anon

>>31532337
youre a fucking idiot with no idea how fragile infrastructure is

I prep the bull because my wife makes me.

>>31532510
This

>>31532275
>Why do you prep?
Because even though I live in the USA I know that shit happens. I live close enough to a large section 8 apartment complex to know if they stopped funding the EBT program that we would have a cat 5 chimpout in my small town.
I know that a storm of the century could kill the power for weeks here like it did in NH 7 or 8 years ago and I DO NOT WANT to have to to rely on FEMA or county services for food, water heat or band aids.

Somehow over the years having a sustaining pantry of food and a nice woodpile for heat because a sing of insanity. Were all our grandparents or great grandparents crazy? Were the people who survived the Great Depression and vowed to never starve again out if their minds and wasting money and time filling a nice pantry?
Remember when SHTF across the entire USA for almost a decade, tell me how it can't happen here AGAIN anons. .

>>31533158
Please, do enlighten me.

>>31534081
I don't think anyone would be able to get you to open your mind. You have a closed mind so enjoy that fema food line it you get hit by an earthquake, hurricane, tornado or ice storm that fucks up the power grid around you for a couple weeks or more.
I mean that shit NEVER happens in the USA right idiot. HAHAHAHAHAHAH faggot

>>31532351
>people that feel a lack of control and hopelessness in their life often fantasize about situations where the normal order is disrupted and they get to be the GUY.

Oh god the projection. So how is your first year as a psych major going anon.

I prep because I remember the stories my great grand parents told about eating a watered down peanut butter sandwich maybe once a day during the great depression while everyone was starving. You act like it hasn't happened nation wide here and you also think the very same fiat currency system that caused it isn't still ready to pop again. How can college boys( though you do sound like a radfem or maybe trans person...trans person...lmao) be so stupid.

>>31532356
yep
cause russia's leadership likes it's citizens unlike ours who hate half of us and want us dead anyway

>>31534198
Just had a pretty big flood in our neighborhood a few years ago. All the neighbors helped each other and it was nice to see people quite nice to each other. If it came down to it, sure, I could use my backpacking gear, dirt bike, guns, water filter, and survive, but I don't actively think about that much.

>>31532375
>I'm preparing for the word that a train carrying toxic chemicals has derailed and that we need to evacuate town NOW. I'm preparing for waking up to the smell of smoke and knowing we need to get out of the house before we die in a house fire. I'm preparing for getting laid off and not being able to find work for 6 months because nobody is hiring but the family still needs to eat and have a place to stay.
Happy to hear another rational prepper is on this board
>Preparing all one's effort for the least likely occurrences is silly. Preparing for common ways that your life could have major disruptions, so that you can ride them out with minimal fuss and stress, is only good sense.
It's the main stream media doing that...calling it a zombie appocolapse and calling us doomsday preppers. The fed gov HATES preppers. They have passed laws granting emergency service poroviders access toy the food in our fucking homes in states of emergency, did you know that?
The main stream media and entertainment industry have been demonizing preppers for a decade or more. I prep to provide for my family for a minimum of a year..call me any fucking thing you want just don't call me after SHTF and ask for a meal.

>>31534081
i went to nyc after sandy, they were not able to bring in gasoline, i forget why, refineries may have been hit. it is astounding how difficult no gas makes things, no driving, no food shipping, chainsaws and generators run out of fuel. you just get stuck, the only reason i had any mobility was i drove in with every jump can i could find full.

bad things happen, and in the end the only one you can really rely on is yourself. it's not stupid or crazy in the least to have some supplies laid up.

>>31534551
I was stationed in Cali when they had wild fires breaking loose out there. People were fist fighting each other to loot bottled water from fucking Albertsons.

>>31532500
>forest fires are kinda hard to prep for, aside from a bug-out bag.
BULLSHIT.
If you have a home in that environment get off your ass and clear the dead wood and brush 200 feet around your home, use fire resistant building materials and have a small underground shelter with filtering equipment for air and you can survive just fine. The people who make a living off the taxpayers keeping everyone SAFE FROM THEMSELVES do not want you to be able to protect and provide for yourselves. I mean think of their children... the children of the 18 million people who have their paychecks singed by DHS.

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I prep to be prepared
same reason I carry
same reason I have insurance
same reason I have locks on my doors

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>>31534723
and you didn't even record it.

>>31534494
Be happy you have good neighbors. Now what if serious damage you the power grid came along with that flood and little help from the outside world was inbound? Would everything be so friendly for weeks and weeks anon...this is why I prep
>If it came down to it, sure, I could use my backpacking gear, dirt bike, guns, water filter, and survive, but I don't actively think about that much.
I'm saying you should think about it some. Maybe dedicate 30 minutes a
week to looking at you food supply, how secure is it from prying eyes and the elements. Do you have enough ban aids and sugar..canned goods. You don't have to dedicate a massive portion of your free time to making sure you and your loved ones have food, water and the things that make life worth living in good supply.

>>31532275
Prepping is an anti-social activity because it means divesting in the preservation of a peaceful world.

Stop.

>>31534815
I love that pic. That's the exact argument I have used against socialists and commie bernie voter types for years

>>31535612
>Prepping is an anti-social activity because it means divesting in the preservation of a peaceful world.
This is terrible bait and you should feel bad for posting it but anyway
Do you have a lock on your door.
Do you keep your savings in a bank.
If you even have savings while people starve you are anti social and hurting the possability of the preservation of a peaceful world.

>>31536040
>Do you have a lock on your door.
>Do you keep your savings in a bank.
None of these things encourage me to not care if society gets evaporated tomorrow because I think I'll be able to survive it.

Prepping does.

>>31532275
>I don't want Jesus freaks, Mormons, and "conservatives" dominating the post-SHTF
We don't like you either, you preening whiney little faggot. But that doesn't make us dangerous.

>>31532275
>Jesus freak here, fuck you

>>31534723
Calling bullshit. We have wildfires every fucking year, like clockwork.

Now, if you'd said something like X percentage of people refused to evacuate, that would have been believable. Every year we get a few Darwin Award finalists who don't believe it can happen to them. Their charred remains always turn up within a quarter mile of their burnt out car.

You might have even been believable if you'd said they were fighting over the last garden hose at Ace. We have a certain number of nitwits who believe that they can defend their whole 2 acre mini ranch with 500 feet of hose and 60 psi at the faucet.

Fighting over bottled water is more a hurricane country thing. Everybody here already has plenty of bottled water because our tap water tastes like ass.

>>31538125

I don't give two shits what you think you cali cuck. I heard the story secondhand anyway.

>Be training in the field
>Training cut a day short because wildfires also on base
>Was chosen to deliver some supplies to shelter area because have humvee license
>See a dude I'm handing a MRE is bloody and bruised
>Ask him if he's OK, if he wants to see a corpsman
>He says he's fine
>Asked him what happened, he told me

The base general opened a shelter area and we were helping the local community. More or less doing what National Guard does. If I take the time to lie, I at least make it more grandiose.

Go suck a dick and die in a wildfire cucklord.

http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2007/10/camp_pendleton_marines_aid_in.html

>>31532337
>morbid fantasy to day dream about. I shoot guns because it's fun.

possible bait

>>31532351
trollin

>>31536065
>Prepping does.
maybe for you

>>31536065
>prepping encourages people to not care if society gets evaporated tomorrow because they think theyll be able to survive it.
maybe for some people

i prep because i am very aware of the
fragile state of our society

i want to preserve societal stability,
and i prep in case it fails

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>>31532275
1.- I see the economy eventually going to the toilet, pushing more and more people to a life of crime, so I must know how to defend my home and family. I don't preach in favor of ARs in every home but to each its own.
2.- My country is prone to natural disasters, thus having a week or two's worth of supplies and not having to depend on government aid is a good thing.

>>31538260
I like how your story changes, now it's something you heard from somebody who most likely got his ass beat for trying to loot something stupid like booze.

I was born and raised in Escondido, wildfire season is simply a fact of life in SoCal. It used to be a late summer/early fall thing, now it's pretty much year round because of the drought and all the people from everywhere else.

Looting is not real prevalent, because looters either slow themselves to the point of dying or they wind up facing awkward questions at evac checkpoints. That guy was feeding you a line of shit.

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>>31536065
>None of these things encourage me to not care if society gets evaporated tomorrow because I think I'll be able to survive it.

youre either a troll
or you are assuming A LOT

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>>31534730
>Just clear the dead brush 200 feet from around your home

Anon clearly YOU don't know anything about how wildfires work. Wildland fires move with a rapidity and intensity that varies based upon many many factors, unless you have a way to keep your grass and roof wet for the entirety of the burn time of the fire you can't keep it back.

That being said, if you were prepared to till or scrape the area around your home to mineral soil for at least 100 ft with no trees within 100 yds of the fire break it's more likely you'd be fine.

The main danger to homes from these types of fires would be from ignition due to burning debris raining down onto the roof or other flammable portions of the house. In the wild these usually cause spot fires ahead of the headfire

But concerning the rest of your argument, the vast majority of families do not have the fiscal means to build an underground structure capable of filtering out concentrated amounts of woodsmoke for an extended period of time.

The reason people are evacuated is more due to the presence of smoke than the fire itself.

>>31532458
This.

I live in WA so massive earthquakes are a real possibility, as well as other natural disasters. And because of my location we could be one of the last areas in the state to receive aide so its nice knowing i have some good supplies and a small stockpile of ammo

Also just in case the ruskies and cubans invade of course

I do it so I can live out my fantasies of being the main character in a Fallout game.

I want a small farm, 5 acres or so, and the ability to produce electricity and pump water if needed.
The most likely things that will go wrong in my lifetime is oil running out or a solar flare.
I don't expect much else desu. If we get invaded (Canadafag) prepping won't be as important as being armed and being able to keep moving as much as possible.
My life is my most precious possession. As long as I draw breath, I will fight to keep alive and stay free.
In case you are wondering since you mention the ideologies thing in your OP, I don't have any political thing I stand with (Social libertarian but believe in healthcare, welfare, etc.) and I'm also an atheist.
I just want to be left alone to ride my motorcycle and shoot my guns, but clearly I'll never get that.
>>31532458
The purest ideology in this thread.

>>31534517
>They have passed laws granting emergency service poroviders access toy the food in our fucking homes in states of emergency, did you know that?
Yes I do.

Did you know that in the event of a nuclear attack the long-standing plan is to force people to house refugees in their homes? Ask Oppenheimer about it sometime. I don't have any notion that they wouldn't do it for a severe enough disaster of another variety too.
>don't think that Tyreese won't still nig out on your family just because you're hosting him on government gunpoint-enforced orders either
>or that Ethel won't happily report all your preps to Uncle Sam while you've got her living in your home
>or that Eileen won't turn all your evil guns in to the police so that her asshole children are safe from their corrupting influence under your roof

>>31534815
>>31535643
Doesn't this logic mean that "right libertarians" would be wrong as well? What if an individual in an "anarcho-capitalist" society refused to acknowledge property rights as is currently understood?

>>31536065
But neither of us have any control over sociaty evaporating anon. By prepping I can make sure some of us survive to make everything better again and better yet with out parasitic fucks like you who never made the effort to provide for yourselves,

>>31538854
>force people to house refugees in their homes
I can't see that flying in rural red-state areas. The sheeple would probably be cowed enough to go along with it.

>>31539057
>Muh private courts that will magically work and not become controlled by corporations

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>>31538719
Finally, an honest answer. Who doesn't want to be the hero of their favorite game.

Pic related you magnificent bastard.

>>31532275
>preppers are so retarded they cant even type in elementary English

No surprise here.

>>31534815
I like how you missed the option, "if you don't like it, you can fuck off and go find another system you like".

>>31539129
The USG seems to think it will happen just fine after a nuke war. If you tell them to fuck off, suddenly your house will be empty and unowned, and able to house even more refugees.

>>31538854
The state department has been looking for places to take Americans by the tens of millions.

If you want proof google search for south africa saying they aren't interested in having that many white people in they country no matter what Pres Obama offers.

>>31532275
Hurricanes+niggers

>>31539184
It'll kick off a civil war in the midst of a nuclear one. Happy fun times for all.

>>31538612
>if you were prepared to till or scrape the area around your home to mineral soil for at least 100 ft

Required by law in California

http://calfire.ca.gov/communications/communications_firesafety_100feet

Of course, a lot of people bitch like hell about it. It ruins the aesthetic of their multimillion dollar McMansion. They didn't have to do it in (whatever shithole they moved from), why should they do it now?

Those are usually the human interest stories you see on the news. Surveying their new field of ashes and crying about their loss. These are the people who drive up insurance rates for the rest of us.

>>31538612
Listen here Mr Know It All. We have a brick and stone home with a tin roof with steel rafter joists and fire proof insulation in the roof rafters The grass around my home will burn to fast to damage the stone work and the undergrowth and dead wood is cleared enough in the extended perimeter that the last 6 brush fires that came through burned out before they even took all the leaves off the trees. Stop acting like you know anything.

>>31538854
>Did you know that in the event of a nuclear attack the long-standing plan is to force people to house refugees in their homes?

It may be a FEMA plan, it won't survive contact with reality. It may have been a thing in the 50s and early 60s, when our society was more cohesive as a whole.

I suspect that something more along the lines of FEMA trailer colonies would be a thing. You'd probably see them cropping up in Walmart parking lots overnight, while mayors and governors get phone calls telling them to deal with it.

Farming refugees out to neighborhoods makes it harder to feed, track, and control them. I don't see forced housing happening, but I could see local jurisdictions being told to provide for them.

Because "Prep" doesn't mean Walking Dead level of SHTF.

It can instead be "Lets not get shot at Walmart after Katrina/LA quake/Riots" which still 80% of households aren't ready for.

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Because playing makebelieve is fun enough to keep me from offing myself.

>>31532275
All I really do is buy a couple cans of store brand beans everytime I go to the store

>>31540895
How you gonna greyman when you can't stop shitting your pants. Starving people don't fart idiot. They gonna know you eatinall the time

>why do i prep

its more or less a hobby to justify my horrible hobby of buying things.

>>31540525
Good enough.

>>31539853
>Farming refugees out to neighborhoods makes it harder to feed, track, and control them. I don't see forced housing happening
Germans had to house rapefugees
>I could see local jurisdictions being told to provide for them.
At which point they might farm them out.

There's a hurricane bearing down on me (SC) and we flooded last year. I just bought a couple gallons of water and some 7.62x39 and non perishable food. Not really prepping but I'm ready for the storm.

>>31543314
We're not Germany.

Local jurisdictions won't have the manpower to enforce a forced housing scheme.

Like I said, it'll be FEMA trailer parks getting dumped on the locals. Picture something like the Katrina aftermath, only with less support from the Feds.

there are like 7 apocalypses right now

1. one of two warhawks are going to become president with the largest military force in the world. ring ring, who's that? fascism and civil war calling

2. Peak Oil, not deal with that shit

3. Global Climate shift

4. mass depopulation via Children of men

5. the clean water crisis

6. increased solar flare activity

7. San Andreas fault; the big one is coming

there is no reason not to prep, especially sense prepping already insulates you from natural disasters anyway.

>>31543616
>7. San Andreas fault; the big one is coming

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-earthquake-swarm-20160930-snap-story,amp.html

http://www.cbs8.com/story/33296082/heightened-earthquake-alert-issued-for-southern-california

>>31534730
Fire likes oxygen, and if fire is all around you, the chances of suffocating are high.

>>31532275
Because normies don't brah

>>31532510
also this, lol

>>31532337
>the idea of a total 'WROL' environment in modern society during this globalized era is a morbid fantasy to day dream about

top shelf kek my man.

if anything, society is even more fragile than it has ever been. You think a bunch of dependent sheeple are going to survive when utilities are going to be disrupted for a month, let alone indefinitely?

>>31543616

You forgot Yellowstone, my nigga. That one is going to be the joociest

>>31538125
Can confirm this. Our tap water does indeed taste like ass.

Anon from Cali.

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>>31543616
>4. mass depopulation via Children of men

>>31545427
nobody is surviving if and when yellowstone blows, the volcanic winter is going to kill so many people