Which state has objectively the best gun laws?

>>31525323
Alaska

>>31525338
This. Arizonans will chime in, and they have it good, but the rez, and some shitty campus carry laws really drag it down.

>Inb4 some retard says Texas, I'm a Texan, it sucks here.

Arizona, Nevada, Alaska, not in that order.

I'm from Maryland, and I'm living in California, and moving to Colorado soon. Colorado seems pretty nice compared to those other two states

Alaska, with Vermont and Arizona tied for second.

>>31525349
Does it really suck down there in Texas? I thought you guys had a big gun culture?

Or is (((someone))) trying to ruin that culture?

WA is around number 15 or so. It's not that bad.

>>31525396
Is there a list? I'd like to see it

>>31525378
Left over laws from cowboy days and the continual migration of Californian scum keeps texas down.

It's a problem that also permeates throughout the south, though replace California with New England states.

>>31525378
The culture is okay to great, too many fudds though. And don't get me wrong, I love Texas, and gun wise things are getting much better. I travel to the capital when things are in session to keep up and talk to reps. But we still have shitty knife laws, still pay a ton for the LTC, and have other quirky weapons laws. The cities, mostly Austin, San Antonio and to some extent Houston are authoritarian wastelands when it comes to guns, and UT has been a shit show since the not so great campus carry law went into effect.

>>31525405
there are a couple lists. though they differ slightly from each other.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/culture-politics-network/best-states-for-gun-owners-2015/

also, this one is from 2015, so it may be somewhat dated.

>>31525338
Only if you enjoy paying out the ass for basic necessities

>>31525418
>Guns and Ammo list

Nyet.

>>31525422
That wasn't the question.

>>31525422
He didn't say best state to live in, this is for legislation.

>>31525411
Are knife laws arent that shitty.we can carry autos and balis freely.our guns laws are ok.not the greatest but good enough but what really sucks is that we lack oublic land to shoot on and are restricted shitty ranges

>>31525323
In no particular order, Alaska, Wyoming, Missouri, Kansas, and Arizona are states I know first hand are gr8

>>31525455
>Can't carry a dagger
>Can't carry anything over 5.5"
>Can't carry a Bowie knife, BY NAME, in the state that popularized it
>Clubs can be broadly interpreted
>Knife preemption laws just took effect

You are right about the lack of public land, but I look at that as a somewhat decent trade off for strong property rights.

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Is Vermont actually as based as it looks on paper? I almost can't believe them being this far north.

>>31525490
Yes, they only get knocked down due to association of neighboring states.

>>31525490
I don't know how long it'll last honestly. it gets away with it because of being the second least populated state, being 94% white and being mostly rural.

Guns are expected, but once the it's neighbors tank, that's gonna drop fast.

>>31525323
New York. Why? Because laws don't make things legal, them make them illegal or regulate them. So NYS has the best laws. Now if you're asking what state has the best lack of gun laws, then it's not NYS.

>>31525323
Which stare allows me to jack off and shoot shit on my private property?

This is important. I ca not live without these two things

>>31525580
Jesus fuck, I knew you were an autist, but this is just being pedantic on a unconscious level, like you have to have a severe personality disorder that requires you to have people hate you. Do you masturbate to bans and Anon hate?

>>31525613
You can do both in any state provided you own the property, it's like 500 feet from a main road, a proper backstop is made and neighbors won't complain about noise.

>>31525396

WA is higher then it use to be. If the laws they wanna pass, pass. It'll be just as bad as comiefornia

>>31525627
>and neighbors won't complain about noise.

You know, I've never been much of a screamer while touching myself, minus the occasional grunt, it's a pretty MGS type affair.

>>31525614
It's like you know nothing about the legal system and the function of laws. Wait, that's right you don't know a thing. Laws are statutes that are enforced. You don't enforce something that has no penalty. It's so cool that you're angry at your own lack of understanding. Troll on child.

>>31525657
You know what OP meant, you dick lipped turd nugget.

>>31525323
Vermont.
Constitutional carry, no AWB, NFA items are legal, etc.

>>31525378
They only recently got open carry back.

>>31525669
The OP was incorrect in both his question and understanding of laws and statutes.

>>31525349
i believe its just recently legal to carry on or near a campus if youre just "passing by" /through

>>31525718
And your dick is in your hand isn't it? Fuck off SAO.

>>31525743
Do you piss hands free? Oh, you still wear a pull up.

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>>31525753
>i'm 12
>the post

>>31525396
As long as you aren't in King County yeah its pretty good

Too bad King county is where most the jobs are

>>31525323
Florida

Tasmania, circa 1986

I hear good things about Kentucky and bad things about New Mexico. Anyone able to confirm / deny?

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pic related is from a few months ago
a couple of laws have changed (MO passed constitutional carry) but it's still accurate for the most part

Georgia is pretty alright

>>31525962
What makes Montana good instead of great?
I was considering moving there at some point
Maybe I should just move to the upper portion of idaho instead

>>31526012
No constitutional carry I think (you can carry however you want on private property and outside cities, but to conceal carry in public you'll need a license)
Otherwise it's pretty good.

>>31525962
whys nevada good? i thought they didnt really have any gun control like az

>>31526096
That's not so bad, then.
Need a license in georgia too.

Montana will stay on my list of good places to move.

>>31525349
Don't you guys have to register your guns? I think I remember my dad saying he had to register his guns with the police dept there when I was a kid. That's fucking crazy if it's true

>>31525323
Missouri
-constitutional carry
-NFA friendly
-castle doctrine includes house guests and you can shoot intruders in the back
-stand your ground law, no duty to retreat
-open carry ANYWHERE if you have CCW

>>31526012
>>31526096
IIRC from the thread where we were hashing out the details of this image, "good" meant no significant restrictions, whereas "great" was no restrictions and constitutional carry. (Unfortunately this means that I'm probably going to have to bump my home state back down to "good" in a few months.)

>>31526139
Wat? No dude, no.

>>31526155
>Constitutional Carry
>Open carry anywhere IF you have CCW

That's not Constitutional Carry, friendo.

>>31526139
no wtf

>>31526185
you can bring an SBR down to the Arch

thats about as constitutional as it gets pal

>>31525962
>>31526158
OK, I've updated to show that MO has Const. Carry now. Have there been any other significant legal changes (that would warrant a change in tier) in any other state in the past six months?

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>>31526211
fuck. forgot attachment.

>>31526208
Constitutional means not infringed, a license is infringement. The school system isn't much of a priority in Missouri I take it?

>>31525962
Why is Texas good and PA okay?

In PA you can open carry anything without a permit. In Texas you need a CCW to open carry handguns.

>>31526241
you are a retard. re read my OP. Missouri is constitutional carry, use google if your dumbass cant read my post.

as an incentive to still get the CCW and associated training, CCW holders are allowed to open carry.

>>31526258
Holy shit, people in Missouri are retarded. Sorry friendo, wish you the best at licking windows.

>>31526243
State handgun registry, no private transfers on handguns, and no preemption of carry laws all knock PA down a tier. TX was kept at "good" because OC is literally the only thing it has going against it and listing it as "okay" for that reason triggers all the TXfags and makes them shit up the thread.

>>31525962
Tfw in shit state and 20 with parents that hate guns.

I live in America damnit I at least want to fire a gun at a shooting range or something or go out and just blowup some pumpkins with an AR or something

Any ways how?

>>31526310
I come from a great state with anti-gun parents. I've fired an air rifle once, which they had no problem with, and have managed to sneak to a range to fire a .22 on one occasion. Now I'm in college in a commie state, so nothing is changing any time soon. Once I graduate I'm planning to move back up north but into my own place where I can own as many guns as I damn well please.

>>31526100
You still need a ccw permit as far as I know to concealed carry, but in Arizona you don't

>>31526346
0h

>>31526224
What makes Oregon just okay? I think the laws here are pretty reasonable.

Idaho, can't believe nobody mentioned it yet.

Maine is actually very good as of October of last year.

Arkansas has a great lack of gun laws. Rampant cash and carry purchases. Constitutional carry coming the first of 2017 as well. I live in South Florida now and was appalled at how "controlled" the gun scene seems to be here. People that are into guns here always seem to only go to indoor ranges.

>>31526354
no private sales

>>31525962
What makes Virginia just OK? As far as I know the only restrictions are a ban on Armsel Strikers and guns made completely from plastic

>>31526410
>and guns made completely from plastic
so no gun ever made

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>>31525962
>>31526224
>Kentucky
>not great

>>31525323
Kansas is pretty damn good. Constitutional carry, NFA items are allowed, no magazine or salt weapons restrictions. Concealed carry will soon be allowed on college campuses. Decent gun culture although there are are fair number of fudds here too.

>>31526410
extra ID required for purchasing weapons in arbitrary categories, no preemption of carry laws, NFA restrictions, the brouhaha with carry reciprocity

>>31526427
see >>31526158

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>>31526413
Don't be dumb.

>>31525323
California. Nobody needs an assault rifle 15, especially with the 30 round hi capacity clip.

>>31526466
>dat nail

>>31526466
>nail to be compliant with legalities
>metal cartridge and bullet

>>31525418
>Numbah 6 Wyoming
Feels good, man.

>>31526224
What makes Illinois shit rather than communist?

>>31525962
>the states with the worst gun laws have the highest population of jews

really made me think

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>>31526517
>Nail
It's not there for "legality" it's the firing pin you tard. and the cartridge isn't a part of the gun.

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>>31526597

>>31526586
I don't remember exactly as the last significant update to this image was six months ago, but I think the understanding at the time was that IL doesn't have quite as much bullshit as some of the others.

>>31526629
>minus uncle joe, it's all people who aren't at the top of anything

>>31526629
guess who pays their salaries

>>31526258
Only need a CCW where open carry is restricted. County I live in doesn't have any laws against so a permit isn't required.

Also, the open carry doesn't apply to long guns. Those don't need a permit anywhere.

Last, unless you are being detained or arrested an officer CANNOT disarm you for any reason.

>>31525490
Vermont is pretty solid, though the libs from Mass and Jew York move up there and try to fuck everything up

>>31526180
I am thinking this thread already answered my question, but barring Alaska (no work for me there) what is the coldest state with top tier gun laws? Vermont?
Planning on moving out of a nofuns state, but I cannot stomach heat. Cold as possible is best. And windy as fuck.

>>31526369
I can confirm, but defense laws could use some work.

>>31526706
The coldest states would be the ones that border canada, and of those, Vermont is the best.

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>>31525962
>tfw live in a communist tier state

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>>31525962
>Mfw, Illinois fag
>Mfw, cuck county
>Mfw, town has home rule laws so can haz ARs
>mfw, besides Maxons there's literally nothing here fun related and most fun websites don't fucking ship here

I can't wait to leave famalam

>>31526663
>>31526658
Nice try (((O'Rourke)))

>>31527405
which suburb are you in?

>>31525962
>tfw california
I just want guns AND socialism.
My only option is to vote for the radical feminist party who want to socialize everything and give everyone guns.
I may as well

>>31527829
Are you a girl?
>ASL?

Jokes aside, are you a fellow cuck county resident?

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>>31527870

>>31525349
>>31525378

Texas isnt bad. Most of the laws are more of a definition than a restriction. Its all good except a couple fucked as fuck things

>NFA approval is an affirmative defense. If the cop decides to be a nigger you get arrested, take your guns, then you show your stamp to the judge
>all melee weapons are fucked, especially knives. if i can literally strapped 50 .44 magnums to my body i should be able to carry a baton. "bowie" knives are banned but arent defined in the law nor are really definable outside of the law.
>open carry of long arms is hella vague and they can probably just arrest you just because and get away with it

>>31525365
yeah but the front range is infested with damn commies.
other than that and the out-of-staters coming to smoke all our pot its great

>>31525962
Best ranking for gun freedoms in states: http://gunlawscorecard.org/
(It's a commie site, so where there's an F, replace it with an A, where there's an A, replace it with an F, etc.

>>31525323

I'm from Oklahoma, the only thing I wish we had would be constitutional carry, but even then, an SFA license is like $15 no questions asked.

Also, the NFA item laws are the best in the US.

Kansas has the best gun laws hands down. They just made it legal to conceal carry without a license

>>31528460

Them along with another half dozen states.

>>31528553
Besides NFA regulations. There's nothing you can't do in Kansas

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California

Just kidding. My county is not so bad though. Connected to Nevada. Lots of innawoods and my sheriff rufuses to enforce gun laws.

I'm rich too.

>>31525938
Don't know anything bad about NM.

We have it pretty good here. Here's a compact doc on the general overview of our laws.

Also as far as legal age goes, it's pretty lax.

>Any age to possess long gun
>18 to purchase long gun
>18 to purchase long gun ammo
>18 to possess handgun
>21 to purchase handgun
>21 to purchase handgun ammo

Overall pretty great. Also we have the added benefit of having fuckloads of open land to practice on.

>>31529041
Forgot link

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newmexico.pdf

>>31528133
>Guns
>Socialism
Pick one.

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>>31525580

>>31529041
>>21 to purchase handgun ammo
Hang on, I just had a thought. 18 USC 922(b)(1) only applies to licensed dealers. An FFL is required to sell guns or to manufacture or import ammo, but no FFL is required to simply sell ammo. Doesn't this mean that a store that isn't otherwise a gun store can stock handgun ammo and sell it to people under 21?

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>>31525490
Oy vey yes goyim vurmahnt is da best state for guns

>>31525338
>>31525349
>>31525365
>>31525370
>>31525467
>>31529342
>all these Alaska replies
Vermont literally has zero laws restricting anything and it's actually impossible for local governments to enact gun control. There was an attempt a few years back but since it ran right into the "yeah local ordinances need to match state law" thing it didn't work.

Vermont's only gun laws have been federal laws, and this has been the way it's been since 1934, before that and going back to 1777 they had a constitutionally-recognized right to bear arms. Vermont is literally the original state with a right to bear arms written into it's constitution, it's the original constitutional carry state.

>>31525490
It's like you've never heard of Maine...

>>31529479
>Vermont is literally the original state with a right to bear arms written into it's constitution

That's really interesting. How do they word it? I know liberals like to use the "militia" part of the US constitution to imply only militias can bear arms.

>>31529342

At least Bernie knew that suing gun manufacturers when people misuse their products is fucking retarded

>>31529531
Original 1777 text:
>IX. That every member of society hath a right to be protected in the enjoyment of life, liberty and property, and therefore is bound to contribute his proportion towards the expense of the protection, and yield his personal service, when necessary, or an equivalent thereto; but no part of a man's property can be justly taken from him, or applied to public uses, without his own consent, or that of his legal representatives; nor can any man, who is conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms, be justly compelled thereto, if he will pay such equivalent; nor are the people bound by any law, but such as they have, in like manner, assented to, for their common good.
(self-defense is a right, etc etc)
>XV. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of the themselves and the State; and, as standing armies, in the time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
(should be obvious, also note the text because it's been copied by other states)

>>31525365
Jesus, from bad to worse with that first move. I'm from MD originally as well, and the state has seriously become No Fun Allowed in the past 30 years.

VA laws aren't bad. Open carry is legal, conceal permit is easy to get. Not the best, but a pretty gun-friendly state.

>>31525490
NH is pretty gun friendly as well. Last time I lived there it was pretty easy to get a conceal permit.

>>31529595
>vermont constitution written in 1777 clearly states that a person can bear arms
>fucking jews on the SC are still arguing that our constitution written in 1776 means we can only own arms in a militia

I'm honestly scared that they're gonna put yet another jew on the supreme court and overturn District of Columbia v. Heller.

>>31529730
Actually the constitution wasn't written in 1776, it was written in 1787 and ratified in 1788.

They really should have written the 2nd Amendment in a manner similar to the Vermont Republic's fifteenth article of it's constitution. Having that would have saved us so much bullshit.

>>31529761
Seems like Vermont's article was written with the consulting of a lawyer, whereas the 2nd amendment was written by idealists.

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>>31530452
Yeah I'm totally sure an entire state that up and declared they were their own country independent of all the other rebels because reasons wasn't at all filled with idealists.

>>31525938
I'm from Kentucky. I regularly open carry my pistol with no problems. I can usually buy a gun in 30 minutes or less and there's no real laws with regards to what you can own. It's pretty based.

>>31525938
The only thing Kentucky lacks is constitutional carry.

Other than that, it's great.

>>31526457

>NFA RESTRICTIONS?

Nigga we get everything here, hell it's still legal under state law to manufacture machine guns as long as you register them

>additional ID

Literally voter registration

>no carry presumption

Wat

You can't open carry an "assault weapon" with out a ccl in northern but the definition in va is so loose my full feature ar with colapsable stock is fine to carry as long as you use a 20rd mag, if you have a ccl you are exempted and can carry anything.
As long as you have a ccl you're good to go

>brouhaha over reciprocity

We actually got more reciprocity out of that bs and voluntary background checks at gunshows which I actually kinda like. But it is bs that the attorney General has that much power.

>>31529063
>Reding comprehension
It says "Better Dead than Red". It's an anti socialist slogan, ya gibblet head.

>>31525753
not that guy, but you sound like a massive cunt

>>31531703
Yeah, well, answer the question.

>cunt
You sound Ausfailian.

>>31525411
Houston aint that bad, also LTC exempting a background check is pretty neat, not to mention the amazing private sales market here

>>31531758
That's why I said to an extent. The cops are kind of hit and miss in Houston, but there is a weird libertarian bend to the city. The LTC background exemption is the tits, and why I will renew even if we miraculously pull off Constitutional Carry.

>>31525422
Keeps out a good chunk of welfare Queens and nignogs. So it works for me.

>>31525323
Vermont.

/k/ansas

>>31529479
except Alaska nullified federal gun law

>>31526224
>Minnesota grouped in with all the other yellows

kekekek
confirmed for having never been there

Moving to South Carolina from California soon, how is it there?

>>31533177
No.

>>31531456
OK, so the NFA restrictions aren't as strict as in some states, but there's more to them than in the green states.

Call it what you want, but it's still extra ID to exercise your constitutional rights.

Exactly. Municipalities can set their own carry regulations. The state doesn't have full preemption.

Exactly. The AG has the ability to fuck you on a whim. That's why your state isn't green.

>>31533219
Purchase permits, NFA restrictions, carry restrictions

>>31533177
No silencers allowed. MOAR LIKE VERMONTINNITUS AMIRITE

>>31533287
Shit, apparently that changed a couple years ago. Disregard

>>31533207
States don't enforce federal laws, so, the nullification is more symbolic and a whole lot less reality. Until the state of AK starts rounding up federal agents and jailing them, nothing federal has been nullified.

Alaska, Arizona, Georgia

How is colorado? Im moving this week but dont know much aside from a 10 round limit on magazines or something.

>>31533542
Magpul up and left the state because they passed stupid liberal gun laws a few years ago.

It's gone downhill, but not as bad a some other states

I live in Alabama, seems pretty based. Of course I live in a decently well off county, have an open self policing range fifteen minutes away and live in a semi rural area outside of city limits. We have conceal carry pretty much everywhere too. I'm sure it changes heavily on what area you're in, as is such in a any state. I've also never looked into buying a full giggle or silencer so I don't know the state policies on those

>>31533717
Well shit. It seems like the only shitty thing is the limit to magazines, is there anything else i'm missing?

>>31533542
>>31534032
15rnd mag cap, no private transfers, and Denver has other shit stacked on top of that

>>31529479
>Vermont is literally the original state with a right to bear arms written into it's constitution
NY does too, the right is actually affirmed stronger than in the US Constitution.
>"The right to bear arms CANNOT be infringed"
Our politicians and courts don't care, though.

>>31533207
>except Alaska nullified federal gun law
I haven't heard of the Alaska NG, State Troopers, and militia locking up federal agents enforcing federal law so no, they haven't. Even beside that legally they can't, not without some drawn-out SCOTUS decision and likely an amendment to the constitution that explicitly redefines federal authority.

>>31533287
>>31533321
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150624/vermont-suppressor-legalization-bill-signed-into-law-by-governor
>On June 17, Governor Peter Shumlin (D) signed into law House Bill 5, the Fish and Wildlife bill. Thanks to the efforts of state Representative Patrick Brennan (R-Chittenden-9-2), the suppressor language was successfully added as an amendment to H.5 allowing the lawful possession and use of firearm sound suppressors at “sport shooting ranges” in Vermont. This legislation contained a sunset provision that your NRA-ILA will continue to work towards repealing when legislators return to Montpelier. For more information on this new law and the efforts in the legislature to get it passed, click here. ( http://americansuppressorassociation.com/vermont-becomes-41st-state-to-legalize-suppressors-effective-july-2/ )

Sounds like you're talking out of your asshole, >>31533287

>>31534252
Except New York fucks everything up as usual because Vermont's constitution and state law would have prevented the lion's share of your state's gun control. Their laws require local governments to conform to state law, so a NYC-only ban on pistols or something simply wouldn't fly. (it's already been attempted in Vermont, as I said, and didn't work out)

>>31525323
Vermont has almost none, so Vermont.