Mk14 EBR MOD 0

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>>31515357
OR should I go full fag and get all the bells and whistles for $5,334.90?

Also Sorry, wrong link here is the right link:
http://www.fulton-armory.com/fultonarmoryusriflecal762mmm14-1-1-1-1-1.aspx

>>31515393
>Mk14 EBR MOD 0
they got one on sale for 2.5 K on gunbroker but idk if I want it used

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>>31515357
>>31515393
the EBR "upgrade" kit is garbage. Get a regular walnut stock M1A.

>>31515357
Sage chassis is probably better, or you could get a SCAR and become part of the master race.
EBR Stock is pure cringe.

>>31515357
OP, if you do, realize that you're giving up accuracy and weight compared to even cheaper AR10s. If you can accept that, go ahead and get it. It's a sexy gun and will be plenty of fun to shoot.

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>>31515474
I was under the assumption that there were major overhauls in the EBR to the M14 for accuracy as well as durability.

That being said if I can drop like a grand and get a newish M14 then I'd hop on that quick fast and in a hurry

pic mostly unrelated... moslty.... I think the scene where the GI shoots the lock off the coca-cola machine is with an M14 but that is about it.

>>31515357
I really don't like how think the buttstock is compared the grip area on the barrel. If you like it more power to you though. You have shit taste, but to each his own.

>>31515491
Ebr chassis is a sage stock

>>31515533
The EBR does significantly improve accuracy. Haven't seen anything regarding reliability. It also adds a ton of weight. You'll be sitting around 13 pounds or more.

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EBR is fucking hideous. Literally any other stock for the M14 looks better.

>>31515516

so what are some of the most accurate Battle Rifles around? We can get into a battle rifle general if we want but I just wanted some good options for accuracy and shootability, preferably in 7.62x51, .308, or possibly some odd magnum calibers that I won't be able to find ammo for.

>>31515357
It looks like an abortion

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>>31515474
Calling total bullshit on this one, I actually own one and I can tell you it makes a huge difference especially with factory ammo. Excuse the shitty scope in this pic, I had just gotten the Sage rail and didnt have any free scopes to test it with.

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>>31515587
There are a variety of .308 ARs that are incredibly accurate and great for DMR roles. There is also the SCAR 17S, which sacrifices some accuracy for big improvements on weight.

Personally, I went the LMT route.

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>>31515561
This. JAE stock or nothing if you are going to replace your stock.

However, literally any other semi-auto .308 is better than the m14

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My Ar15 was made by Fulton armory.They make good shit.

https://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/
Reminder that the M14 is a piece of shit

>>31515587
>>31515614
>>31515641
>>31515670
Every M14 owner knows this, but it's a lot like owning a classic car. So fuck it, who cares.

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>>31515357

Because you're a fatass tactical mall ninja who A)thinks "railz" make a gun look cool. B) never lugged around a 15lbs rifle in your life and C) are going to do nothing with it but shoot the 100 yard line at the range

>>31515614
A DMR is not a battle rifle, only civvie fucknuts who have no concept of shooting outside of a range think this

if you have that much money just buy a nice m14 and do it yourself/gunsmith and you will be more satisfied. the rifle u posted is also ugly as FUCK

>>31515614
This is gorgeous

Wait...fucking hell, why did no one tell me Fulton makes a prebuilt M16A1 clone?
http://www.fulton-armory.com/fariflecal556mmupruniversalprecisionrifle-3-2-2-7-2.aspx
Someone get my wallet.

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>>31515723
In that case get the Blackfeather stock.

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>>31515755

>wanting a clone of a rifle that killed thousands of servicemen in vietnam due to how unreliable it was

>>31515720
Nah, I totally agree. The m14 is a beautiful rifle and is by no means "bad." Is it the best in all areas? No. Does it have some issues? Of course--all guns do. But the m14 is a bit older and it has some rougher edges than new stuff.

The reality is that an m14 isn't going to get you killed much more than any other choice. If you die in a gunfight, it's probably not because you had the wrong battle rifle. It's because you got fuckin' shot.

The M1A is stupid
You could get an LMT for that kind of money

>>31515741
You sure showed me. Everyone look how great this guy is.

>>31515764

The VLTOR stock is there to get proper eye relief with the optic, putting on a cheek riser causes the shooting to have to tilt his head sideways like a retard. So unless that stock can move vertically it will be worthless with an optic plus the rails are unnecessary weight added

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>>31515788

Unless your utility for all the extra weighted features is warranted, it is simply that...weight. If the average /k/omando wanted to look cool with a rifle, they would be better off at the gym

>>31515824
I think a good number of people could enjoy the benefit of an EBR chassis. It does improve accuracy a solid bit. But it's a lot of weight for only a moderate improvement.

>>31515357
Because its not a scar

>>31515741

This.

Proper nomenclature please. Your semi auto fucking toy M1A is not a "Battle Rifle" unless you get a tax stamp and get one with a fun switch.

>>31515968
This. It really shines with factory ammo accuracy. Something may people don't know about the EBR is it's barrel harmonics enhancing system. To properly install the stock, you need to replace the Op rod guide block with the sage block, that is fastened to the rifle, then there is a barrel tensioning screw at the end of the foregrip. This fores two nodes of vibration, which forces a node at the end of the barrel. Reloading a specific load for a specific rifle is essentially the same thing, tuning a vibratory node to the end of your barrel.

>>31516042
>>31515741
These are both wrong as fuck. Battle rifles don't have select fire in their definition. That's assault rifles. Battle rifles are traditionally defined as full auto, self-loading rifles with box mags.

And a battle rifle CAN be a dmr. DMR isn't always a battle rifle.

>>31516125
Full power*. Not full auto.

>>31516125
what the fuck is an assault rifle

>>31516125

A DMR is defined by things such a heavy barrels, more magnified (and heavier) optics, and a heavier stock for accuracy. The trade off from a battle rifle's maneuverability and durability for accuracy is alot of added weight and parts like the barrel that have less service life

So while they may share the same platform, a battle rifle and a DMR isn't the same. Although a mall ninja who doesn't understand the purpose and tradeoffs of each systems will use the terms interchangeably

>>31516165
Single arms characterized by intermediate cartridge, select fire, and removable box magazines.

>>31516190
Distinct from an LMG in that they are not designed for sustained fire

>>31516185
Battle rifles aren't defined by their usage. They're defined merely by the basic characteristics of being semi-auto, full power, mag-fed rifles. DMR describes a usage. It's a semi-auto rifle designed for precision shooting between common rifles and "sniper" rifles. You can use a battle rifle as a DMR if it has the accuracy and capacity for that role.

>>31516209
LMGs generally aren't fed by a box mag... and often don't have select fire. They just have stop and go.

>>31516248

You don't seem to grasp the trade offs that you make for accuracy when converting a battle rifle of the usage of the battle rifle that makes them superior to assault rifles depending on terrain

>>31516265
RPK, Stoner 63
Got me on the select though

>>31515474

State relevant experience

M1a bedding is absolute shit

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>>31515357
Because the SCAR exist

>>31516286
By their nature, DMRs are very multi-role. Conversion isn't really all that huge for many modern rifles like the SCAR or .308 ARs. And by the raw definition, it doesn't really matter. Battle rifles are include any semi-auto, full power, mag-fed rifles. Is it a very specific term? No. But that's the definition we have to work with. So an M14 EBR, for example, is a battle rifle by its characteristics, but DMR by configuration and purpose.

>>31516310

What is your intended purpose of this rifle? Would you be better served with a very high end bolt rifle that would be more accurate than the beefy M1A given the money you would be spending?

>>31516306
Yeah, those and things like the M27 is where lines get blurry. Not sure if there is a very good term to describe that kind of hybrid design.

>>31516190
Squad automatic weapons?

>>31516342

Conversions is big if you have to

- carry that heavy fucker around
>have to treat it like a princess as any rough use with mess with often fragile accurization improvements and the optic that costs almost as much as the rifle itself
>have to carry special ammunition over standard ball ammo carried by everyone else
>can't fire rapidly as a stainless steel barrel will wear out faster than a battle rifles often chromed lined barrels that trade accuracy for service life

So yes there are several tradeoffs that you make for it that do make significant differences for the end user

>>31516390
That's pretty much the closest thing to say. I kinda want a term that's a little more specific though, you know?

>>31516410
Again, accurization isn't part of the definition of battle rifle. The term "battle rifle" doesn't exclude barrel coatings or ammo types or beddings. It does not describe what the rifle is going to be used for. It just describes semi-auto, full-power, mag-fed rifles.

Some battle rifles are used as DMRs. Some aren't. Some people use intermediate-caliber DMRs. They aren't mutually exclusive.

>>31516486

They are if you are using it in an environment that counts. Having an intermediate caliber DMR really makes no sense other than to save money.

But semantics aside, for the purpose of OP, he needs to consider >>31516348 unless money isn't an issue, it will never see any sort of field use and this is all for his ego during the few hours he spends at the range

ITT: Anons arguing whether Mk. 14 Enhanced Battle Rifle designed to fill a DMR role, is a DMR or a battle rifle. You guys are all idiots.

>>31515764
Oh my god, that's hideous- why would you ever want that?

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>>31516335
>SCAR
Meh.

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>>31517575

>>31517575
>>31517586

I handled one at Academy the other day, feels flimsy as shit and isn't something I would want to rely on in any situation

>>31516670

ITT: Anon who never lugged an unnecessarily heavy rifle around innawoods

>>31516335

Yeah if you wanna be a tacticool fag just get a get a scar, and if you don't get a walnut M1A.

>>31515357
Had one, sold it. AWFUL balance, and was about 18Lb loaded with scope and bipod.

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>>31518131

But things such as weight and balance don't matter to tacticool fags who think they can run and gun with a DMR like you would a standard battle rifle

Not that most of those guys can have any experience running, carrying shit or having to do both at the same time

>>31515357
because you dont have the money?

>>31515533
I think he used an m1 carbine

>>31515474

>woodfags

>>31517575
Poorfag

>>31518503
Spending twice as much for something pretty much identical makes you better how?

>Take 1500 burger M14
>Put plastic stock on it with railz
>It is now an EBR worth 5 stacks

Please explain.

>>31515533
It was an M1 Carbine for sure.

>>31518695
The EBR stock is metal.

http://www.impactguns.com/sage-m14-tactical-stock-coyote-tan-m14alcscoyotetan.aspx

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>>31518695
>plastic stock
>metal chassis

Yup same thing.

>>31518719

I stand corrected but that doesn't really answer the question.

>>31515772
By the time the M16a1 rolled out, those reliability problems were largely solved.

>>31518735
Ebr chassis is a real upgrade.

Brought my groups to sub moa after tuning the barrel tensioning screw.

Only real complaint I have is it is a fucking bitch to hump around.

>>31515605
how do you field strip the gun while retaining zero?

>>31515393
Do it anon, for those of us that can't have fun that sexy

>>31515774
Pretty much. As long as the rifle does the job on a basic level and doesn't go out of its way to inconvenience the operator, a rifle is a rifle. Your odds are about as good with a beat up AK-47 manufactured in 1950 as they are with an HK416 that just rolled off the production line with all the bells and whistles.

>>31515357
Because you can get a Socom 16 for half the price.

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>>31515357
I'd rather have this and have money to buy a second rifle as well. Maybe a [spoiler]Sig 556xi, fuck you /k/. Fuck you right in the eye socket[/spoiler]

>>31520186
You don't. You just clean the barrel, chamber, and gas piston. It's a fairly clean gun since it's gas piston and uses grease instead of gun oil. Although you should do a full breakdown every 6 months to a year, depending on how much you shoot.