Civilian VSS Vintores

No, there is a chance. Vepr still imports stuff to the US. We can get it, but without the suppressor.

>>31499976
Wouldn't it also need a longer barrel for legal importation?

oh god pls

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>>31499958

>>31499976
>>31499982
The civilian version comes with long barrel without perforations to decelerate the bullet to subsonic speed. The "supressor" is just mockup.

Three calibers: original 9x39 (civilian round),7.62x39 and 366 TKM.

Semi-only with the false "suppressor" sleeve? I'd love to have one.

>>31499982
Yep. Do we even want to get into the shit fit over ATF/ gun grabbers thinking that 9x39mm is a super-duper, armor-piercing baby exploder cartridge?

>>31499958
I wonder if those are available to the Armenian firearm stores? I'm willing to go open arms deal with their companies there

>>31500011
I would buy the shit out of this.

Val conversion kit when.

>>31499958
Molot can still import guns into the US. They dodged the sanctions by the skin of their teeth.

Kalashnikov Concern sued them because of intellectual property rights on the AK design and took 45% of the entire company as payment, if they took more than 50% it would have been hit by the sanctions.

Trump better win, goddammit.

>>31500125
I swear to god, I will join the firearms industry and make a fucking business deal with them

The "suppressors" are just cosmetic and don't even work, what is the point

>>31500148
Pretty sure they are doing all they can right now.


Our import laws are extremely oppressive and limiting and it is extremely difficult unless you are a big player with lots of money to throw around like Century International Arms for 922r bullshit and convincing enough to make the ATF and US Customs agents think you know what you are talking about or importing.

>>31500170
You can cut the barrels down and make your own suppressor?

>>31500170
Looking good, ofc.

>>31500186
Friendly reminder Trump would make things worse because 'Murica First

>>31499958
>tfw VAL conversion with Zenit and PK-AS
I doubt we'd get it though, we don't even get Molot RPKs.

>>31500125
>and took 45% of the entire company as payment

Sweet jesus thats one hell of a court ruling.

>>31500257
Friendly reminder that Hillary would outright ban Russian imports and further restrict local production with "assualt weapon bans". Friendly reminder that Johnson is sided with an idiot antigunner too.

>>31500257
Not really, because Trump is friend with Putin.

>>31500475
They couldn't afford the settlement so the court decided on the stake.

>>31500483
All the more reason not to elect him

Not that Drumpf can win in the first place, lol

Can Canucks import these privately?

>>31500500
OK, anon, OK.

See you in November.

>>31500478
These hilldog bots don't know when to stop. Anything and everything they type is immediately shown as wrong.

>>31500508
>he didn't watch the debate
>hasn't seen the polls

Drumpf is finished, can't wait for your tears

>>31500519
Cool. Now get off our board.

reminder its a shitty gun that none of you have any idea about. Ontop of that it wont be the same one that the russian FSBnavomo use. It'll be some gimped to fuck civilian hunk of shit in some odd caliber that wont achieve anything different than anything else. Why you idiots are obsessed with it is beyond me but go for it, buy your 2k dollar snowflake that you'll get bored with after one range trip. IF you can figure out how to use the goddamn optic properly.

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price list

>>31500519
>Hillary has Parkinson's
>Likely won't live through an entire term
>Has leeched off bills exploits for 30 years
>Failed at literally everything
I would call that finished

>>31500530
I-it's shitty anon?
>sad

>>31500537
None of those are in 9x39, what the fuck

>>31500530
Why so mad though?

The thing is about the caliber.

The gun will be "fixed" for american taste when fagpul and local murican gunsmith got their hands on it.

>>31500530
Seriously, why do people have so much interest in a absurdly niche special forces gun that they probably couldn't even hit a target with? even in video games i hated using this meme gun

>>31500542
All Russian guns are arguably shitty. Hes just butthurt this isn't an issue rifle with a deal suppressor. He also thinks Russian optics are somehow more complex than American optics, which just isnt true.

>>31500507
Only through a import broker and if the RCMP has given it a restricted/unrestricted decision. It looks and acts like an AK to the untrained eye so it would be an uphill fight.

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>>31500543
>7.62x39 VSS clone

>>31500551
I like the idea of a subsonic effective out to 200-300 meters, but,. 300blk can do that now.

>>31500551
It's .300Memeout but with that Russian mystique, plus it's unobtainable.

>>31500579
>>31500582
Not even ballistics equivalent.

>>31500537
Current exchange rate puts the most expansive one at $1589.65

>>31500563
Fuck if they decide this is ak-pattern I'm going to be disappointed. Is it longstroke piston?

>>31500596
We don't really know because there isn't any good load data

My god. We're so close to that mosins on mars greentext becoming real...

>>31500596
I mean in that they're both niche special forces cartridges that people want only because "muh SEALs/Spetznaz", even though something like 5.56 or 7.62 would be better for their purposes.

>>31500626
They are not ballistic equivalent, end off.

.300 niggerout is just a less strong 7.62x39.

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I'm ready are you?

>>31500601
above the barrel yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

FUCKING EU SANCTIONS! EU GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!

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>>31500662
Won't ever happen, they would shut it down with the "not for sporting porpoises" clause.

>>31500691
looks like a hunting stock to me

>>31500691

>"not for sporting porpoises"

Neither are a KPV or a PTRS, but I could still own one if I had enough money and willpower.

>>31500691
Could have it advertised as a hog hunting gun.

>>31500732

So do you work for Molot and thought it would be funny to come here and tease the Western fags with something they can never have?

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>>31500519

>>31500691
>Not for sporting porpoises
Good thing I'm not a marine mammal then

>>31500537
Fuck off you cute fuck.

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>>31500519

Does anyone have that photo of some operator from Russia with that extremely short rifle that is similar to the VSS?

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>>31499958
>my most favorittest gun ever finally gets a civvie version
>my lawmakers watched too many action movies so lol no supressors

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>>31500810
You'd never know

>>31500840
<3 you really think so?

>>31500871
SR-3M

>>31500897
Now that's the kinda of shit I want.

Are there more photos?

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>>31500916
couple

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Overfolding SR-3 is my favorite

>>31500888
Hearing Protection Act soon brother

>>31500647
Did you even read my fucking post? I'm not saying a .300BLK AR and a VSS are the same (though they are similar in concept), in just saying that they're so sought after because "muh special forces", not any inherent benefit over currently available platforms.
Learn to fucking read.

>>31501043
I don't need to read, they are not ballistic equivalent, thus not comparable.

End off.

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No idea how legit these specs are

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>>31500257
Except he wants to be bros with Putin and better our relations (which would mean dropping sanctions). He also said he would repeal all Obama executive orders on firearms which would include the Russian firearm import.sanctions. Better luck next time CTR.

>>31501078
I don't know why you're posting all these schemes with useless numbers on them. Are you telling us to make our own? Well I'm sorry but we can't afford the thousand dollar machine mill your autism bux paid for.

Waffen-Schumacher imports Molot stuff all the time, german (hunter) fags might get lucky.

>>31501171
>on 4chan
>not compulsively collecting useless images
What are you even doing here?

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>>31501171
plz show 1k mill machine I'll buy right now

>>31500647
>>31500607
>>31500601
>>31500596
>>31500582
>>31500579
From the claimed 260 grain or so moving at just subsonic velocities the closest commonish equivalent is the .338 spectre which does just slightly better and them BCs. .358 Gremlin is also an option but imo the projectile availability in .338 makes it a better choice.

>>31500578
This.

I want this harder than snu snu on glass bones

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>>31501171
sorry it looks like they use a 1000 dollar mill to make them

>>31501062
...I give up. You're beyond help.
>>31501112
As awesome as that would be, I will eat my cosmolined nugget stock if Trump follows through on repealing any import bans. Especially because all his little business buddies would not be terribly pleased with suddenly losing the half-century of protectionism that this country has built up in most of its industries. That bit of terrible status quo isn't going anywhere.

>>31501213
In the deepest, darkest most operator basement of the weapons concern.

>>31501229
You are not helping me, buddy boy.

Now swallow that shit and get outta here.

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if someone would send me a vss in thanks for these images it would be much appreciated

thanks

>>31501258
If only it were that easy

>>31501258
sent :)

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>>31501267
i cri ervy tim

>>31500257
Fuck off.

>>31500519

you're such a fucking pussy you can't even type out his name lol

>>31501043

Unless someone shitted up the wiki page for 9x39mm, I'm seeing its energy listed at 658 Joules. That's about the same as a 9mm +P and nowhere close to .300 blackout's 1,800 Joules.

Even if people flock to buy it for the special snowflake appeal, they are going to be massively disappointed. It's a shame, too. I'd love a necked up 7.62x39 with the full powder charge.

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>>31500861
>Kingofcucks

>>31501331
>>31501331
those are supersonic energy numbers, but yeah .300 blk subs touch those numbers, I posted some more wildcatty things that are closer in frontal area and such upthread a bit.

>>31501331
.300 blk
>220 gr (14 g) OTM
>1,010 ft/s (310 m/s)
>498 ft·lbf (675 J)

>>31500551
Because it's awesome you preposterous faggot.

Geez.

>>31500551
>they probably couldn't even hit a target with?
stop projecting there duder

>>31501399
>>31501421

Ah okay. Still, getting the 9x39mm version seems like an absolute waste if it's not suppressed, especially at unicorn ammo prices.

>>31501642
How difficult could it possibly be to fix the suppressor?

>>31501642
Agreed, I would probably grab the 7.62 version if I was going to buy it. Which I totally fucking would.

>>31501642
9x39 would kind of a waste if these were to sell in the US anyway

you'd never have any ammo

>>31500299
we have in the past, though. In 5.56 and 5.45

>>31501660
>SBR it
>crown/thread whatever
>attach the longest suppressor you can find

Two tax stamps and some specialized gunsmithing.

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>>31500691
>not for sporting porpoises

>implying silently hunting man is not a sport

>>31502606
at first glance that sausage looked like a dick

I dont belive you

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>>31500537
>7.62x39
Muh dick

>>31501699
I'm wondering how hard it would be to replicate the integral suppressor. How easy would it be to fuck up porting the barrel for it?

>>31500972
Christ, that milling makes the gun look tumorous.

>>31499958
That land in the Russian Far East is looking more and more appealing. I always wanted a Vintorez

>>31500551
Style factor

>>31501642
Agreed, but there's always reloading if you have dedication and time

>>31500530
nigga, there's a VSS-shaped hole in my collection and this fills it (even if it is pretty inferior to the real deal). It would be rad if it was possible to restore the can/perforations.

>>31500011
>366 tkm.
Neat

>>31500519
>hasn't seen the polls

Trump won all the polls besides CNN.

>>31500600
snowball's chance in hell that's going to be the price of it in america

>>31500500
>>31500519
How is "Drumpf" a derogatory?

>>31500861
holy fuck talk about a weak chin

>>31499958
so... would it be possible to get it in canada?

>>31507821
it sounds silly to people with nothing between their ears.

>>31507784
I'd pay $2,250 for one.

>>31507982
same, I'd even put another 1K into it to get it to look like a VSS

>>31507821
Because his grandfather was a legal immigrant that they changed his name because customs reasons.

It's a stupid way to be derogatory

>>31499958
I would buy this instantly

>>31507996
You mean his grandfather was a legal immigrant who had his name ANGLICIZED and ASSIMILATED into American society.

>>31508129
this is true as well

>>31508129
Yeah, pretty much. Point being, anyone that uses "drumpf" as an insult are a bunch of fuckheads

>>31507713
Those were non-scientific polls

>>31501238
The way the Russians drew orthographics always bugged the shit out of me and I've never been able to figure out why.

Good shit though, I could definitely generate CAD models from these because they look to be all machinist overview plans. Throw them in autocad, clean em up, throw them into solid works and in a week or two I could probably have ready to make plans, 100% original.

Tweaking to use US parts though to skip the unobtainium? Looking at 3 weeks. The barrel would need to be converted to using a modded AK style barrel, not to mention everything else that goes with the dimension change.

Trigger is a bitch though since it's striker fired. Maybe converting a vz58 trigger? I don't know. Converting select fire to semi auto only is a risky for dance you do with the atf.

Hi, guys! There is Russians thread?
My 2ch,hk/w/ is down so I come here and ready to answer your questions блядь.
BTW civillian VINTORES will be to expensive for most people here in Russia. Avarage salary is about 30.000.
Excuse me for my English.

>>31510057

what guns do you own my russian friend?

>>31499958
Molot isn't sanctioned you stupid asshole.

>>31499976
>Vepr still imports stuff

Vepr isn't a company you failed abortion

>>31508437
>CNN
>scientific poll

>>31510064
Here is my old proof picture for board /w/.
From top:
Иж-18 (IZH-18). Single-shor shotgun 12 ga
"OCA" (OSA or "wasp") less-lethal handgun with rubber bullets. 18x45
MЦ 21-12 (MC 21-12) semi-automatic shotgun 12 gauge.

I had a Saiga 12 before, but I sold it. Trying to find picture with it.

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>>31510084
Oh, picture.
And cutom knife from local knife-maker

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With saiga

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>>mfw you will never own a VSS other than an airshit one.

Groza when?

>>31510099
at least you own a airshit version