Guns you want but aren't made thread.

A locked breech variant of the Beretta 84FS

>HK to actually sell semi auto versions of their long guns.
Export and import laws play a huge deal in this, they'd sell HK33s, HK91s and HK94s to this day if it wasn't for German export laws.

>Production M16A1 and other retro clones.
Colt is actually doing this, though in a limited run.
Nodak Spud makes a number of A1 and Pre-A1 receivers, Troy makes a rather faithful repro of the GAU5 variant of the XM177E2 carbine.

There's actually some decent options if you want an A1 rifle, building one would be the cheapest.

>>31488008
>Export and import laws
Why not start a factory in America?

>>31488057
Really expensive, and German laws get to decide what weapons they're allowed to sell, even for export.

Like, a rifle or pistol may not have a paddle mag release, that's feature of a "weapon of war", and may not be sold to civilians, thus semi-auto MP5s and stuff from Germany all come with button magazine release.

Then there's American import laws, 922r states that a self-loading rifle may not have a double-stack magwell, or it can't be imported, this would require a redesign of the rifle for single-stack, and new magazines, then the importer would have to fix this and make it double stack again, which would be harder for this kind of gun, 922r also states that an importer have to add 10 American made parts to a rifle if they modify it, and there aren't a huge supply of American made parts for H&K's rifles (aside from the PTR91, which makes importation of HK91 rifles obsolete)
And if they don't fix the rifle so it takes normal mags, it won't sell, because nobody wants an MP5 that only takes 10rd magazines.
Looking at the SL8 (sporter abomination of the G36) just barely got by over the years due to it's interesting looks.
It can be rebuilt into a proper G36 clone by specialist armorers, but it's a complex process (involving plastic welding) and VERY expensive.

So both laws and economy of scale makes it hard for H&K, they're selling an MP5k pistol in the US, but it's obscenely expensive, because otherwise it ends up not being worth their time financially.

Cheaper clone of the HK416.

Somebody just copy that shit, goddammit.

>>31488193
I should add that PTR is looking at starting up making 9mm guns, so some day we might see American made clones of the MP5 at competitive prices and good quality, consider that their G3 clone can be had for as little as $800 and are excellent quality.

>>31488200
>a clone of the HK AR15 clone
well alrighty

>>31488200
Ruger SR556 might be close to what you want, at least functionally.

Though I personally think piston ARs are a silly gimmick, the Ruger and H&K rifles are genuinely well made

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>>31487923
A single stack P220 series Sig

God, I fucking want a CZ RAMI, why don't they make more of them?

>>31487923
ar-10 made by STAG arms, colt make a plan jane ar-10

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>>31488564
almost unobtainum

>>31487923
- A striker fired, double stack .45 ACP pistol with 14(+1) [or greater] capacity. (Like an FN "FNS-45") -Right now, PPQ 45 comes really close.
-A CZ variant (like the 97B) .45 ACP with a 13+1 or 14+1 or greater capacity, and an all steel frame.
-All above variants available with threaded barrels for suppression.

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This in .357 Magnum, 9mm and .45 ACP.

>>31488193
I actually really want an sl8 in .308

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>>31488564
>single stack P220
Huh? You called?

>>31488564
>A single stack P220 series Sig
???
>P220
>P225
>P6

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An AR in .45-70

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>>31487923

>>31487923
Steyr L(or M)45-A1

>>31488892
>>31488916
Not single stacks

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>>31488200
>Somebody just copy that shit, goddammit.
Coharie Arms did, it's the "HK416" in John Wick, but I can't find shit on them anymore.

>>31488564
>A single stack P220 series Sig
Huh? That's exactly what the P220 is...

>>31487923
>Versions of guns or new models that aren't on the market.
Pic related.

>>31489056
The p220 is very much a single stack gun, nogunz

>>31488919
Go look up ballistics for .458 socom, friend

>>31489056
P220 is a single stack and the P225/P6 is just a smaller P220.

>>31488193
>922r states that a self-loading rifle may not have a double-stack magwell
ALL OF MY HATE

An SAA in double action chambered in 44 mag or 357 mag. Yes I know the Lightning and Thunderer exist but they're so much weaker than the SAA. I want one that has the same thickness of metal and the same look. Is such a thing even possible or would it be easier to get an SAA and convert it?

>>31489083
>>31489108
completely wrong

A woodstocked .30 Luger Carbine
A double stack handgun in .30 Luger
These grips:>>31488892
Reproductions of: Fedorov, Mondragon, Webley Revolvers and Autoloaders
AK pistols in 7.62 Tokarev
STGW57 in 7.5 swiss
An AR in 7.5 swiss
Ithica defender wood stock in 16 gauge

>>31489363
I take it you like/have a fuckton of 7.5 swiss

k31 in 45-70

>>31489304
You're a special kind of retarded aren't ya
>http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/03/ryan-finn/gun-review-sig-sauer-p220/
>http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/daniel-zimmerman/new-from-sig-sauer-the-reintroduced-p225/
>http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p225-a1.aspx
>http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p220-carry.aspx

>>31489382
Yes, well I'm fond of the 7mm range like 7mm mauser as well but 7.5 swiss is the bee knees of rifle calibres in my opinion

>>31487923
A doublestack autoloader in .327 Fed. mag.

>>31487923
Fulton Armory makes a pretty nice looking M16 clone ( http://www.fulton-armory.com/fariflecal556mmupruniversalprecisionrifle-3-2-2-7-2.aspx) and many people can help you make different retro M16's.

http://retroarmsworks.com/

>>31489363
why 16?

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454 casull auto. Like a coonan in 454 casull

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>>31489304
Straight from their own website, I think ou may have mistaken single stack for single action maybe, or maybe you're just pants on head and trolling

>>31489464
It's a classic and fills a niche between 12 and 20
plus I like ammo diversity

Affordable new production Lugers and PPKs.

>>31488888
You could try mating the stock and handguards to a PTR91

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>>31489304
Either troll or just extremely retarded.

Pic related, a .45 ACP P220 magazine.

>>31489108
>P220 is a single stack and the P225/P6 is just a smaller P220.
Yes and no.

Nowadays the P220 is strictly a .45 ACP variant, whereas it started off in 9 as well, then that ended up being the now discontinued P225/P6. There was also the P245, but that was dropped in favor of making P220 Carry and Compact.

>>31487923
I'd like to see a single stack subcompact of ANY classic DA/SA pistol, CZ 75, Sig P226, HK USP, or anything else. Why is this so uncommon? Granted, we get shit like the Walther PPK and the mini Berettas, but those weren't designed in the era of polymer pistols.

>>31490083
10mm p220's exist

>>31487923
a Battle Rifle in .45-70 for spoopy hunting

>>31489099
.458 SOCOM isn't on the same level as .45-70 Government. At best, it's in the .44 magnum range.

Colt series 70, in 9mm. Also a 9mm gold cup.

.950 JDJ revolver

>>31490154
You can buy things at a large enough hardware store that can break your wrist without being a danger to other people around you.

>>31490129
True, they're called P220-10 models nowadays though, semantics tho... I'm a sucker for them...

An American made version of the FN 5.7 pistol chambered in .17HMR or .22 hornet.

>>31490162
>Manlet detected

Chiappa Rhino 60DS without that seam or the rails.

Glock PERFECTION™ carbine in 10mm

I know 10mm carbines already exist, but I want one made by Glock.

mp5 in 10mm

>>31490349
I think they already did that.

>>31487923
A DA/SA that shoots 9mm and is the size of a P938.

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>>31487923
A version of pic related whose maker didn't fuck up, lived up to Remington's promises & actually gave some decent support. I have the strangest feeling I want the impossible.

>>31490355
wait what. I know that do not have enough money for one, but I want one.

>>31490415
There's a 10mm MP5 SBR on Gunbroker right now. Minimum bid is over $2000 though.

>>31490415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNZwJ6sMQaU

>m1 carbine in 5.7x28

>sub caliber 50 bmg inserts for "deactivated" launching devices

>a modified 1911 in 4.6x30

Bren Ten.

>>31488057
They want to but with questions of another AWB every 4 years there is a lot of risk involved.
That's why they gladly make handguns that even if the worst legislation passes they can still sell to police.

>>31490248
This
No one buys revolvers with mounting flashlights on them in mind.

>Pistol Caliber Carbine line by Glock
>ACR but with quality control squared away, 1MOA guarantee, and caliber conversion kits that exist
>Glock 17 length barrel and slide on Glock 19 frame
>Double barrel pump gun in .22 mag and .410
>Magpul FGM-9: "it's totally an arm brace and not a stock you guys" edition
>A gun that repeals the hughes amendment when the trigger is pulled

>>31489115
Yeah it sucks, but at least Century learned to not fuck up the magwell on the AK rifles they import.

Now, them trying to make their own rifles is another issue.

>>31490138
Depends on how you load it.
You could always look at .50 Beowulf, of course there's less projectile choices.

>>31490503
>>m1 carbine in 5.7x28
That was almost exactly done, long before the P90.

The 5.7mm Johnson is the .30 Carbine cartridge necked down to .223, with power inbetween of 5.7x28mm and 5.56x45mm.

It was done to some M2 Carbines, effectively doing a reasonably similar thing to the later Ruger AC556 assault rifles.

>>31489363
I think Beretta has made some 92FS variants in 7.65mm Luger, for sale in countries where 9mm Luger is restricted/prohibited, I'm taking you want it as a pleasant target shooting pistol?

>>31488775
I prefer the model D of the PTS line.
Never leave home without your PTS-D.

>>31487923
HK USP in 10mm. Barring that, can't Lone Wolf or Storm Lake make a 45ACP-10mm conversion barrel like for Glocks?

I put 15 rounds of 10mm in my USP45 magazines and they fit perfectly.

>>31488924
When will they get an american distro.... i want one so bad even if i have to hand load for it on ch4d dies

>>31490132
You can get an AR-15 in .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf for that.

>>31491259
This too, if they put down capital to actually have a factory made in America, and suddenly this wonderful lucrative market is pulled out from under their feet (not dissimilar to when the AWB and import bans came around back in the day), that would just be the shittiest feeling for everyone at H&K.

And even then it's really expensive to build factory, they still also have to contend with German laws, despite the guns being made in America, for Americans, given that they are a German company.

I almost wonder if it wouldn't be easier to set up a business partnership with PTR (a competent American manufacturer that isn't held by German law) to supply them with parts and tools to make the roller-delayed guns, in exchange for a cut of the profits, but German law might take issue with even that.

>>31488774
This. CZ seems pretty keen on the tactical/suppressor-ready theme right now; if they made a 97 variant with a frame rail and/or threaded barrel I would think it would sell very well.

I know I'd buy one, but then I already want a 97 as is.

>>31491898
https://youtu.be/JzPB8-LHXrg

5.7x28 bolt action rifle

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>>31487923
kel tec sub 2000 in 10mm

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>Single stack, double-action single action 9mm's the size of a Shield-G43
>New M1 Carbines that aren't sacks of shit
>A decent 10mm 1911 that's not a Kimber and doesn't cost a kidney

>>31492053
I'd buy one so fucking quick. Almost tempted to buy a Kriss 10mm when they come out.

>>31487923
One of the various pocket .380 pistols on the market, but chambered in .25 ACP with the grip an extra .1" or so wider so it can use a double stack mag as you could fit about 15 rounds of .25 ACP into the same space as a 6 round single stack .380 mag that way. Also Ruger needs to rerelease their semi auto .44 magnum carbine with some sort of 15-25 round detachable magazine as an option.

>>31490362
I never realized I needed this. How has someone not done this yet?

>>31487923
An H&K VP10(mm) with a 15 round magazine.

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a cartridge conversion lemat that actually works.

a webley in a common cartridge that doesn't cost most of my organs.

>>31487923
10mm P320

>>31491898
Lifesizepotato nigger-rigged a USP40 into a 10mm.

>>31488008
>Export and import laws play a huge deal in this, they'd sell HK33s, HK91s and HK94s to this day if it wasn't for German export laws.

OK. Build them here or in Switzerland instead.

Hi cap 22lr. Pistol. No calico

>>31491830
partly, that and I think it could have promise for sub compact guns for cc

>>31492931
I raise you a FNX10.
Probably be able to cram 17 rounds in that thing.

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>>31489418
>>31489469
>>31490083
Still not single stacks. You fucks don't have no idea what you're talking about.

>>31490083
>Pic related, a .45 ACP P220 magazine.
>>31497028
>You fucks don't have no idea what you're talking about.
I think you're fucking confused, man. That guys photo shows an obvious single-stack mag.

>>31487923

>more SAO SIGs
>single Stack 45 ACP GLOCK with 5" barrel
>TT-33 with a real safety
>CA compliant everything

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>>31489304
>>31497028

>>31497028

>go over to P220 I own

IdentifyingP220s.jpeg

Yep it's a single stack.

Restrictions lifted on Russian and Chinese imports.

>>31497230
>TT-33 with a real safety

Serbs already make one, new production, too. Probably not compliant with Feinstein though

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>>31497028
Sig Sauers website literally says the P220 and P225 are single stack.

>>31497028
Please explain why the P220 is not single stack.

>>31487923
P320 compact single stack.
>shield size

>>31497028
It seems your brain is a single stack.

>>31490503
There is a 1911 in. 22 tcm. It's a powerful round with armor defeating capabilities and its a small bullet like the 4.6 x 30.

i wish there were more options for bufferless AR uppers or bullpup ARs, and I wish the P90 had a .556 variant.

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Pic related.

>>31493818
You're not getting it, they are a German company, thus the German state gets to decide how they as an arms manufacturer get to do business.

If H&K go and build a HK94 in the US and it doesn't comply with what German law says is ok for sale to civillians, they will be held legally responsible back in Germany, regardless of what US law says about the weapon.

The German gov't is incredibly unreasonable and unfair like that.

>>31496957
16+1 I figure, unless you put on a magazine extension.

The 9mm fits 17+1, and the .45 fits 15+1, the .40 fitting 16+1 and having the same diameter as 10mm

>>31497428
Because he's a troll faggot. That shit's single stack as fuck.

>>31493292
>>31492033
I've heard about the .40 conversions, but I've got a USP45. I converted my Glock 21SF from .45 ACP to 10mm with a Storm Lake barrel. What's stopping them from making a USP version? Copyright?

>>31499223
>You're not getting it, they are a German company, thus the German state gets to decide how they as an arms manufacturer get to do business.
>If H&K go and build a HK94 in the US and it doesn't comply with what German law says is ok for sale to civillians, they will be held legally responsible back in Germany, regardless of what US law says about the weapon.
>The German gov't is incredibly unreasonable and unfair like that.

No, you twat waffle. You don't get it. If you instantiate a new company in another country and export parts, that other company can build whatever. It already happened with SIG, which is why you have SIG Saur

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>>31497028
You can't be this stupid.

P90 in 9mm

>>31499313
But is that money H&K has to spend though? Starting a factory isn't exactly cheap, couple that with the looming threat of another AWB (by which they've been seriously burned before), and you're looking at a huge investment at serious risk.

>>31488008
I'd love an HK33 that takes AR mags

>>31499800
That would be tits.
I think that was basically the G41, would be cool to see a PTR41

>>31499853
Do want

>>31487923
Left handed CZ550FS in .30-06 or 6.5 Swede.
The MDR.
10mm carbine that takes RIA 1911A2 (doublestack) mags.

>>31487923
Hell I'd settle for guns that have been made in the past:

> Whitney Wolverine in its original aluminum, not that fugly plastic shit.
> Medusa M-47 or at least multicalibre cylinders for other revolvers.
> Leader Dynamics T2
> G11

>>31487923
HK G28