Gearfag

>>31473455
FPBP

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>>31473455
>mfw I have nothing in Ranger Green

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>>31473455
Criteria met

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what about still looking to buy SAPI plates edition?

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>>31473455
in for over 600 dollars of slav shit on it's way

>>31473455
did you actually change the DD trigger guard and grip? WTF?

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>>31473719
>>31473455
its called OD green

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anyone else nogear here?

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>>31473455
I got some alpha green stuff from gruppa today, and an arktis b110 in olive drab

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>>31474008
What are you talking about? Did you read the OP?

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>>31467387
Blackhawk speedclip (?) Most got used elsewhere but I store one there to add some comfortable structure to the rig

>>31467027
just gotta make sure they're legit. Amazon's have always seemed a little sketchy. if you want to skip the hassle of sorting through surplus you can pick up one of these
.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=51247
762tactical makes custom ones with MOLLE flanks

>>31474092
having a crisis: about to drop $500 on a slick and pair of plates (III+)
remind me why that's dumb

>>31474243
What plates are you lookin at senpai?

>>31474273
s-steel
AR500 with a buildup coat
should I just stop talking now?

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>>31474008
There is a difference. Ranger green was issued to the 75th Ranger Regiment even when the regular army used OD ALICE gear.

>>31474228
goddamn that's an awful 6094 clone

>>31474352
Yes it is. I posted it for the color alone.

>>31474332
If you hated you knees so much you should have told them.
ar500 gets BTFO by the US's new 5.56 rounds anyway

save your shekels these are what I'm looking at as options
https://kommandostore.com/dfndr-armor-level-iii-rifle-plate-special-threat-tested/

https://www.chasetactical.com/shop/bd-hes-4800-level-iv-stand-alone-multi-curve-rifle-plates/

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>>31474418
also, dfndr plates are light as sin and can take one hell of a beating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wkR44JSevA

>>31474450
dfndr plates look well within reach...still pricey but I'd pretty much have the 1100 saved in the 2+ months I'd be waiting on AR500 plates

Thanks for the heads up!! Also: SAPI vs Shooter cuts?

>>31474491
for me
swimmer>shooter>sapi

I like the more aggressive cuts it makes it easier to shoulder the larger caliber funs, lightens the weight, and makes it accessible to reach for your IFAK with your off hand if you were to place it down your cummerbund.

>>31474600
makes sense. Shooter seems as good as it usually gets, though I wonder about Advanced shooter cuts, multi-curve, etc.

Going through the youtube content now...really good suggestion bro, thank you

>>31474687
multi-curve is just a comfort thing
Makes the hell of working in armor for extended periods suck less.

problem being with poly plates is it isn't rated for up to m855 which is kinda the problem with poly plates
as bulletproofme wrote about here
http://www.bulletproofme.com/RP-Polyethylene.html

here is a video where someone shot the dfndr armor with m855
https://youtu.be/ZvDTCDcWbNw?t=3m23s

quite frankly it's a tossup for the end user to decide if it's worth it to save the weight or not, they're are supposedly coming out with a lvl3X but who knows how thick/heavy they're going to be and when it will be available for the plebs.

>>31473455
What pc?

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>Ranger green edition
Oh fuk, now I have to take a picture
>PIG pc, lvl IV highcomm plates, lefty stag arms AR.

>>31475039
As a lefty, lefty guns always seemed silly to me.

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>>31474092
I need to get an axe.

>>31474332
>>31474243
I have mixed feelings about level 3+
It is good to have plates that can stop M193, but AR500 3+ with buildup costs like $275 if I remember correctly. You're literally $25 away from some cheap ceramics.

If you're going concealable slickster, why not level 3A inserts?

>>31475049
Heretic!
Honestly, they're just more comfortable to run because the controls are where they need to be, and you're not experiencing hot brass and gas eject out towards you.

Why not suit a rifle to yourself the most possible?

>>31475075
>Why not suit a rifle to yourself the most possible?

I learned shooting standard actions, so a special lefty gun feels wrong. I also like that I can use pretty much any gun my buddy's hand me without being awkward.

Honestly, with ARs all the shooting stuff is equal with righties. I am slower on tacticool speed reloads, but am well set for retention reloads.

And shooting AKs is SOOOO much easier as a lefty. I can smoothly change mags and charge the gun all with my right hand without having to twist and turn it around like righties.

It's your gun, so do whatever with it. It's just my initial reaction that it looks a bit silly, nothing more.

Asking again, how is the Holosun auto on/off feature?

>>31475061
Cheap ceramics are 150 a plate. Lightweight cheap ceramics are the same.

>>31475098
Nah dude I get it. AR's are basically the only guns that are easily made native left handed. Every other gun I've owned and shot has been right handed. All you have to do it adapt. But if it's a gun I want to run often, I just would rather have the controls exactly where they are best, without the need to adapt. It's kinda like those guys that put the fagpul lever on their AR that operates the bolt catch and mag release, just hopefully a lot less gay.

I'm looking into upgrading rucksacks and want something with a larger carry capacity. What does /k/ think of Whipsnake packs?

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Still need need things to put on the back. Maybe hydration and a radio? Or a bag full of Twix peanut butter and a very long loop of twizzler weezed through the molle?

>>31475267
candy is a better choice, radios will protest being put on your back by needing attention and adjustment every 3 minutes

>>31475288
Guess radio will be out.
I am curious; for people who are not in a group and plan primarily to be alone, and they put a attached pack on the back. How would they access it? Take the whole carrier off during rest time?

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>>31473455

Where do you guys get your plates from? I'm looking to get some SAPI plates for my plate carrier.

>>31476014
Check out bulletproofme.com

how good are the BFG rigs?

>>31475315
If you're not in a group then no, you don't put it on your back. Or put it on your lower back where it is relatively accessible.

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Should I drop $50 on pic related in ranger green? Ak triple mag shingle with a kangaroo pouch.

http://www.beezcombatsystems.com/AK47-3-Mag-Shingle-BCS-AK47-3magShingle.htm

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>>31473455
>50 different shades of green

>>31473455

What carrier is that?

>>31476174
>50 Shades of Green: An Operator Fantasy

>>31474228

What carrier is this?

>>31475267

What carrier is this?

>>31476230
>>31476238
>>31476289
jesus christ dude.

>>31476293
Hey he just wants to know

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>>31473455
In russia they call ranger green "green ranger" no joke there

>>31476230
>>31476238
>>31476289
just duct tape some plates to yourself bro

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>>31473455
What about a few kinds of green? Need to take this stuff out again, but can't use the family land because grandpa wants the deer to come back or some shit so I can't shoot there?

>>31476421
Oh look a faggot that doesn't fucking know.

>>31476468
no bro it'll look sick with your hipoint

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>>31476343
>MГК пepвый paз я пpoчитaл "зeлeный peйнджep"

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>>31476343
That isn't exactly true. It's directly translated as "Ranger (noun masc) Green (masc adjective)" so it could be interpreted that way, but Russians understand that it's just a transliteration.

>>31474491
>>31474600
In my opinion SAPI is preferable. Properly sized plates will not cost you very much range of motion whether they are SAPI or swimmer's cut. But swimmer's cut will expose more lung tissue.

>>31474008
No, it's not.

>>31476230
>>31476238
>>31476289
>>31476468
I was gonna tell you but holy shit man.

>>31474008
Erm, no.

OD green is a different thing than Ranger Green/ Smoke green/ MJK/ Khaki

Anybody have the SADF vest? Any word on quality and how well the Mag pouches fit FAL mags?

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>>31473455
only thing I have in Ranger Green is my MS3 sling.

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What protection does the dragon shield offer from small arms fire?

>>31474931
>>31475061
A pair of III+ with buildup and trauma pad from AR500 would run me $320. They're a little over twice the weight of the dfndrs. How do IIIA inserts compare cost and protection-wise?

I'm kinda impressed with how much abuse steel can take, and the new buildup coat seems to do an awesome job of catching spall.

>>31475119
Phenomenal. Sensor is flawless, comes with the slightest movement, and can be adjusted to turn off after an hour or 8+ hours, anything in between

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>>31476675
Its just what I was told

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>>31473985
Yeah the DD grip and stock are gay as heck
I took off the A1 grip and put on an ergo grip

>>31474953
Siege R optimized

>>31476159
I had a 7.62 designs shingle before I switched to an AR, it was nice but it took them for ever to actually make the pouch

>>31476230
A big black dick

>>31477356
10

>>31476132
why the fuck would you carry a radio if you don't have another person to talk to? even on the small of your back is a stupid place for a radio, which is why no one keeps one there

>>31475049
>Left handed guns are silly.
it's for people who refuse to git gud with a standard rifle.
ambi safeties are nice though

>>31475241
Great for intimidating your surroundings

>>31475267
you could get a ruck which you can take off as you please and get the contents you want out rather than needing to stand still while your fuck buddy eats the candy off your back.

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Tell me why I shouldn't buy an M1 Garand.

>>31478239
because I am trying to find one for a decent deal and don't need another faggot increasing demand

>>31474034
No! Get out! REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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Is it better to size up or size down for plate carriers?

I just measured my chest at 40.5 in a t-shirt.

I'm looking at Cyre JPCs (first gen I think, I don't know what the 2.0 improves upon).

I'm 6'0", 170ish lbs if that helps.

Thanks

>>31477437
For $300 you can get a pair level IV ceramics. Unless the AR500 steel is somehow lighter than the ceramics in question, I don't understand why you would go with level 3+ vs Level IV.

The multi-hit capability of steel is literally a meme.

>>31478239
Because your AR needs a fucking optic first, and you probably don't own a quality backpack or camping supplies. But I'm just shooting in the dark here dude.

>>31478444
You need your pc the size of your plates. You plates should just cover borh nipples.

>>31478510
I don't have plates yet, should you buy plates before you get a plate carrier? Is there a website with the (standard?) sizing of plates?

Thanks

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>>31478510
>he doesn't want easy access to his nipple.
fggt

>>31478533
>I don't have plates yet, should you buy plates before you get a plate carrier?
fuck yes!

>>31478470
>Level IV ceramics
>$300
For a pair? w2c?

>>31478549
whoa thanks man, learning so much here

looks like I'm a medium in whatever those plates are, is that a standardized sizing or manufacturer-specific?

>>31478560
Also interested in this

thanks all

>>31478560
>>31478575
Midwest Armor, proguard lvl IV. 149.99 a plate
Patriot armor lvl IV standalone. only 11 pounds as a set, 299.99 for a set
I am missing some but these are what I do know.

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Does anyone have the rest of this?

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>>31478560
http://www.patriotarmordefense.com/plates.html

https://www.shellbacktactical.com/prevail-level-iv-hard-body-armor-plates-2-pack-kit/

https://armour-wear.com/shop/all/carriers/tpg-armour-wear-package/

If the Patriot Armor Defense plates really are 5.5lbs per plate that is a pretty damn good deal.

There are literally several options to get Level IV ceramics for less than $300 for the pair.

>>31478444
The JPC is designed to stretch anyway so a small difference between medium and large is not important. I'd go with the medium.

>>31474092
cyre might be sending me my PC after all.
here is hoping they forget to charge me.

>>31475061
Axes are good for them gains, just watch out for the manufacturers and product reviews there seems to be a lot of wall hangers on the market.

>>31476692
good point, as with everything there are gives and takes.
It's a tossup for the end user to decide .

>>31477437
if you're looking at
AR500 Armor® Patented Lightweight 10” x 12” Level III+ ALSC Body Armor
it doesn't look too bad.

if you feel like adding the extra protection go for it.
but where IIIA backers really shine is if you're planning on getting yourself an ICW plate in the futurer.

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>>31478549
So if you're not a manlet you should wear XL plates? Shit chart

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>>31478966

>>31473455
If I wear multimeme shit when I operate hard would it be more /fa/ to get a plate carrier also in multicam or should I go for green?

Pics would be appreciated. Leaning towards green because I don't really care for how multicam looks when stacked but idk bros

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>>31473455
Pretty new to this but really enjoy the south African chest rig.

>>31478967
take it up to Paraclete
if you're 6 foot and have a 54inch chest you're a big guy, and probably could get away with XL plates.

>>31476067
BFG is god tier. Only issue is hypalon doesn't breath for fuck so if you wear it long enough you'll have a complete outline of the rig made of sweat on your shirt but literally every thing they make is gtg

>>31478987
trim your fingernails

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>>31478239
You do want an M1. I got one and haven't looked back since. The ping is just so satisfying.

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Can anyone reccomend a Plate carrier I can wear under a large flannel or a jacket?

Also are level IV plates thicker or heavier than level III? Or is it just stronger material

>>31474243
>Blackhawk speedclip
alrighty. the more you know.

>>31477268
What kind of green is the pack?

>>31475743
takbir

>>31479330
Level 4 ceramics are pretty thicc.

Get any good slick or a jpc.

>>31475743
takbir

>>31479368
Thanks

What's the most common cut and size for plate?

10X12 curved shooters cut?

>>31475743
I'm calling you bearded belly boy from now on.

Are there any other 'minimal' (as in not giant padded lbt 6094 types) plate carriers besides the crye jpc or ferro concepts fcpc?

Ferro literally told me to fuck off when I asked about their inventory after being out of stock for months and I'm not 100% on sucking crye's dick

>>31478560
Level IV ceramic plates can be had for $150~ each.
BUT
You have to be aware that it's usually the older NIJ .04 tested and heavy ones.

Newer NIJ .06 plates will cost more, even more if you want multi-curve.

Light weight lvl IV ceramics will cost you a lot per plate.

>>31479547
The Mayflower APC is quite minimalist despite its resemblance to the 6094. Having owned both the APC weighs 2/3rds as much as the 6094 and is within spitting distance of the JPC.

Size-wise it holds your plates and has molle and not much else. Very efficient design that doesn't impede movement

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Any chance anyone here has a photo of a Multicam plate carrier being worn over a Multicam Tropic uniform? Would really like to see what that looks like, but I can't seem to find any photos.

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New pic of everything laid out. I'll answer any questions about it.

Also Large ESAPIs arent actually terrible weight wise

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>>31479628
I have a few airshit i think tho

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>>31479628

>>31478444
Based on your description I would go with a medium. I'm 5'11" 185lbs, 40" chest and a medium plate fits me well.

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>>31479686
>>31479702
Actually looks pretty nice. Guess I will get my next PC in Multicam. I'm also planning to get some Crye clothing because my Ukrainian stuff is too big for me now that I've dropped weight.

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>>31478984
OD on british multimeme

>>31479858
what size is your frog stuff?

>>31479547
I am a shill for Crye

GET AN AVS THEY'RE WONDERFUL

>>31479858
I had the same problem, then I found out there are these people called tailors

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>>31473455
Green enough.

>>31480624
It's a bit overcomplicated in just a pc setup and a bit too bulky with harness.

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>>31480646
It is literally a JPC but better

I can somewhat agree in that with the harness it is bulkier than a JPC, although only slightly.

As to the PC setup, you're wrong desu

It's just something that you have to see for yourself to understand

If anyone has questions about it I can answer. Just the harness itself is pure fucking magic, like wearing a hug from Caleb Crye

>>31477467
It's due to google translate. It's like in Spanish bro, blue eyes is ojos azul, literally translated as eyes blue

In Russian descriptors are after the subject. So they probably typed that in Russian then google translated it.

>>31480645
Solid book choice there Anon

Can't say the same for your choice of eyepro

>>31480706
>Just the harness itself is pure fucking magic, like wearing a hug from Caleb Crye
Dude bet i've heard that phrase in some review before, from some airsofter with gucci gear. Is that you?

What size you avs is btw? If M or L i'd love you to make some measurments for me.

>>31480866
I know the airshit video you're thinking of. No it thankfully is not me

I have an M

>>31480896
Can you please cut some cardboard "plates"?
Mine are 314x265mm swimmer cuts and i'm not sure if they would fit into the M size.

>>31480706
It's also like 3 times the price of a JPC. What other plate carriers have you used?

>>31481022
JPC, LBT and an MBSS

Yes the price is a big turn-off

>>31481022

False. The AVS configured the same as an equivalent JPC 2.0 is actually $60 cheaper direct from Crye.

>I own both

>>31481067
Plus you have the option to later purchase the harness and expand it into a full size plate carrier, I rest my case

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>>31476343

Word order in Russian is not nearly as important for meaning as in English.

You can pretty much throw all the words for each clause in a sentence in any order and still more or less get your point across.

>>31480970
I just checked and I wouldn't say they'd fit into the M size platebag, they're too wide by about 2cm, my plates are already pretty much rock solid in there and they're about 255mm, of course you also have to take the thickness into account, if it's thinner than my 1 inch plates then it could possibly make it work, but I'm not sure.

>>31481039
curious how it stacks up to the Eagle Aero

>>31481067
>the AVS with no features is cheaper than Crye's most overpriced plate carrier
ok
who knew that e-doff, some zippers, and taking away your front flap was worth $100 over a normal JPC

>>31481099
>buying a minimalist plate carrier for twice the industry standard pricing is a good deal

Seriously though I want to love the AVS but Crye pricing is not competitive by any means. The AVS is a success because SOCOM had the money to go full retard and they wanted modularity.

I can go out and buy a Mayflower APC that has pretty much identical functionality to a AVS (without harness) and arguable better functionality (side plate pockets by default, soft armor pockets in the c-bund, built in kangaroo pocket) for $80 more.

>>31481212
correction: $80 less

>>31481212
As I said before, yes, the price is stupid as with most things Crye. However, in terms of comfort, modularity and innovation there is no better.

>>31481295
first spear

>>31481212
>Crye is overpriced

And water is wet.

Owned several APC's before, they're great plate carriers. I just like the AVS more.

>>31481306
>muh lazers

>>31481379

tubes are a meme

>>31481379
>>31481396
>it's bad because it's bad
uh huh

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Built one of these thingys to keep all my bullshit on.

I think I have too much spare time.

>>31478966
>>31478975
awesome thanks!

>>31481212
Just remember gear is buy once Crye once :^)

All that crye talk huh, is the avs backpack a worthy purchase?

>>31483081
Arcteryx Drypack nigga

>>31483081

Don't have one. Look cool though.

>>31483100
but why waterproof for general use? do you get off on paying like 4 times as much for a pack of equal capacity?

>>31474953
Darude - Sandstorm

>>31483187
Doo doo dododo doo dooo

>>31478879
Appreciate the links WGWS! These are much better deals than I've been finding.

First Choice: Patriot, except they don't mention what size, cut, or curve

Prevail are slightly cheaper, slightly heavier, and have a wait time

Armour Wear package seems too good to be true.

How important are trauma pads? Thinking I want at least one for my back to protect my spine

>>31479552
What's your opinion on the plates posted here :>>31478879


>>31478608
gotta take a look at Midwest Armor. thanks

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need to get some new mag pouches, this one sucks ass

Why would a civilian ever need armor? Armor is just imposed on troops so politicians can reduce the KIA numbers. It's useless in a realistic fight a civilian would face, unless I'm missing something.

>>31483658
What's your AR optic?

>>31483686
It's for the habbening

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>>31483695
TA01 but its now a TA31

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RG for life

>>31483633
Trauma pads are bullshit. It's literally a sheet of closed cell foam inside a nylon bag. You could make one yourself for $20. Notice that none of the reputable armor manufacturers that focus on the military or law enforcement market sell them (Safariland, LTC, Paraclete, etc). Hell the padding inside my LBT 6094 is closed cell foam. None of this bullshit matters, NIJ certified armor has to pass backface deformation requirements and if they pass those you're fine with or without any padding.

Also look into AT Armor.

>>31483686
>not getting rekt when shot is a useless capability
sure buddy

>>31483686
H A B B E N I N G

Is an SPR/DMR build with a fixed-stock retarded? Should I just build a Recce sort of deal?
I love the full-size rifles and fixed stocks since they fit me better, but I keep thinking the extra 4" of length and weight probably don't really serve me too much use.

>>31483843
>SPR
>Fixed stock
pick two m8

>>31483843
>>31483851
>>>/arg/

>>31474008
W2c?

>>31483787

unless you've got a squad with you, your assailant is just going to finish you off while you're on the ground wheezing with broken ribs.

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>>31483868
whoops

>>31483851
Some Mk12s used Sopmod stocks, and I'm not building a clone either.
>>31483868
>implying /arg/ talks about ARs or is interested in such questions

>>31483892
>Some Mk12s used Sopmod stocks
and? you asked if it was retarded, the original spr's were issued with fixed stocks so its not retarded.

obligatory kys

>>31483700
Nice paint job! Looks good

>>31483919
Oh sorry, I thought you were implying they never used adjustables. My bad.

>>31483941
ty

>>31483944
ahh, nope the opposite of that. while im not a fan of adjustables on MK12s if you aren't building a clone do whatever is most comfortable for you.

>>31474034
kx500?

>>31483870
Yeah, that's exactly what happened to all those cops who got shot in the armor. Safariland saves, who're they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArDRg5SkuT0

>>31483700
wait pb you're a gear queer?

>>31484106
not really, this is all i have. its missing a few things but nothing fancy >>31483658

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I'm looking for a mag shingle similar to the Tactical Tailor 5.56 Shingle. The thing is, I need it to be able to hold both AR and AK mags (like the Haley D3CR can). I want to line up four mags at the back of my chest rig and then have my admin pouch and utility pouches in front of them. Does such a shingle exist, or am I SOL?
>pic unrelated

>>31484455
having trouble visualizing this

>>31476340
Hey he's(you) autistic

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>>31484493
Kind of like this. This is two Tactical Tailor Fight Light Double 5.56 Mag Shingles on a chest rig with the 3 rows and 8 columns of PALS. Basically, is there a shingle like the Tactical Tailor ones somewhere out there that will hold both AK and AR mags?

>>31484526
I think most of the ak ones should have no trouble holding at mags, especially if they are with kydex insets.

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>>31484550
Will TACOs (the single mag ones) work as shingles in an arrangement like that? I've never used them or seen them in person, so I honestly have no idea, but if TACOs could work as universal shingles in a little lineup behind my utility pouches like that, that would be great.

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>>31478470
"I can't accurately engage a target with irons sights."

..thanks for your input.

>>31484604
No idea honestly, but I can say that I thought about a similar rig idea, basically a d3cr but with molle instead of pistol and utility pouches. Going to have it sewn by a small shop for me.

>>31484655
Yeah, that's exactly what I had in mind. I love the universal nature of the D3CR mag cells, but I just want MOLLE so I can put on pouches I actually need.

>>31484455
>>31484493
>>31484526
>>31484604
>>31484655
>>31484706
Travis Haley needs to get his ass in gear, because a MOLLE front D3CR would sell like hotcakes compared to the new one that doesn't even have the stuff-it pouch. The dude should sell MOLLE versions of the pouches on the D3CR and D3CR Heavy, too. Love those D3CR Heavy utility pouches.

>>31480020
You got more pictures of how you setup the PC? I have the same one and I was wondering how other people set their rigs up.

>>31480624
literally what does the avs offer besides "why have just shoulder straps when you can have, like, bulkier straps underneath"

>>31484736
That would be fucking perfect.

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>>31484827
it offers better weight distribution than a standard plate carrier so you don't hate your shoulders after wearing it for a full day. plus its modular

>>31484615
Try that at night, shit sucks.

Recommendations for boots, softshell and a good backpack for a weeks worth of operating innawoods? My buddies and I are looking to go on a camping trip this December/January in Colorado and I need to expand those three areas in particular. My carrier and UBAC are OD so color matching the softshell and pack would be mucho bueno.

>>31479547
Perroz has 2 slicks.

>>31484736
>MOLLE front D3CR
So like any other modular chest rigs on the market.
>that doesn't even have the stuff-it pouch
The stuff-it is pretty bad, hence why they deleted it on their new models.

>>31474008
where can i get this jacket?

>>31484615
"I've never used my iron sights in anything but broad daylight".
It blows ass even at twilight, I would hate to try that shit when it is genuinely dark out.

>>31483775
I've always wondered, does that tactical fanny pack get in the way when you run?

Or go prone?

>>31479342
OD

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>>31483869
>>31485115
Its a polo jacket and has the little polo horse logo on it, hidden behind the lapel flaps. check ebay

>>31483992
I wish man, it looked like a 250. the suspension is set for a 6'9 dude (who owned the house and was passed out)

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Poorfag reporting for duty

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>>31473455
>Ranger green

You mean Feldgrau?

>>31485346
>thinks bringing a bayonet is a smarter idea than equipping his rifle with an optic

>>31485377
I'm working on getting an Aimpoint.

>>31477002
>>31477186
those shades were considered OD green, 75th just went with whatever they were handed and called it "ranger green" and like most fads in the gun community, it caught on

Does anyone have any SSO/SPOSN gear?
I want a more "real" picture of their coloring with the OG khaki and the newer grey color.

>>31485346
Please show me what of yours is supposed to be feldgrau.

>>31485416
That's false.

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>>31485439
How about this?

>>31485401
Should put an Aimpoint on it instead :^)

>>31485416
Maybe but none of the ranger green shades (including Paraclete's Smoke Green) look anything like ALICE-era OD while they all look very similar amongst themselves. Eagle Ind. has made OD green stuff in the past and it definitely doesn't match their Ranger Green stuff.

>>31475267
What rails are those?

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>>31485482
>AK Bayonet ~$30
>Aimpoint Micro ~$700

let me know when they start selling $30 Aimpoints, anon

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>>31485416
No, the Rangers requisitioned contracts from gear manufacturers and purposely requested a grayer green. They wanted to be special which is also why they have different PT uniforms. They even did this before regular army OD items were phased out. It's used to be evident because they would still use ALICE rucks over their Ranger Green kits and the difference was noticeable.

>>31485482
Fuck I meant to say EoTech.
>>31485528
You can get pretty decent quality red dots from guys like Primary Arms for cheap enough.

>>31485589
I know, but I'm a good shot with Irons, all I've ever shot was Irons except when I was in the Army. I feel like I really don't need a place holder, I'd rather just "buy once, cry once" when it comes to optics.

Believe me, it's on my list.

>>31485534
can I get a report or something on this? im not trying to be a fag I just dont know if I should believe a ranger regiment has the pull to requisition plate carriers and get their own special snowflake color like that. In the marines its just you wear whatever was handed to you

>>31485830
>In the marines its just you wear whatever was handed to you

rangers are the army's fucking golden boys if you havent noticed

just the fact that ranger regiment was wearing different pts and green kits while EVERYBODY else including even green berets were wearing ucp, leads me to believe the snowflage thing is 100% real

>>31485857
really lol? my friends dad was delta and went to bosnia back when that was a thing. He doesnt talk about the military literally ever but he seems to think rangers are faggots. He trains recon guys over on courthouse bay now.

>>31480636
Can you tailor down 10-12 sizes?

>>31480030
Extreme fatass sized.

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>>31479476
What's up with getting web/vest and showing off yer gut?

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>>31485881
That's strange considering the fact that 1stSFODD is actually comprised of 70% former Rangers. It's also strange that he trains "recon" guys and treats them with any greater reverence. Ranger Regiment is a tier 2 SOF unit AND a functional part of JSOC. Marine Corps Special Operations (i.e. the best of the best in the USMC) aren't either of those. "Recon" isn't a thing in the army like it is in the Marines. Regular infantry soldiers are just placed or selected for Reconnaissance/LRS/RSTA duties, but there are recon sections in every single infantry battalion. In other words, recon soldiers in the army are not elite at all...unless they're in the 75th Ranger Regiment, SFG, or something even more spooky. What I'm trying to say is that your friend's dad sounds...fishy.

>>31485830
They're SOCOM, they get issued a bunch of SOCOM shit and they also have unit discretional funding

hence them wearing ranger racks and other shit nobody in big army got

>>31485974
It's that thing where military guys will describe themselves as "basically 'x'".

ie- "I was basically Special Forces" or "I was basically a Ranger" or "I was basically EOD". It's stuff to puff themselves up and impress normies who don't know to fact check.

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>>31485830
>>31485881
I feel like Marines just really don't get the sof thing. You guy don't have the visible ladder that the army does. I was in the army as an infantry paratrooper. I've been around these dudes and they live in a whole other world.

>>31485974
are we seriously doing this right now. I never said anything about him treating them with great reverence, you just made imagined that part in your head and it made you mad. I said he trains them (and coast guard) on courthouse bay. I know this for a fact because I saw him regularly while I was on courthouse bay (1371fag). Hes my best friends dad. Me and him arent exactly buddy buddy but I was around him enough to know what he does for a living. 1stSFODD, JSOC, Recon in the army, MARSOC, and the rest of your post was a big LARP-tier rant that didnt really add to your message.

>>31486102
>are we seriously doing this right now

Well, he doesn't seem to be but you certainly are.

Why get so mad at his post?

>>31486029

The Marines like to keep everything intregated. SOF in the Corps is mostly to support the main body of troops although things have changed alot but there doesn't need to be a complex ladder in the Corps as it doesn't go that high to begin with

>>31486102
Jesus Christ Jarhead, I didn't call you a liar. Relax.

>>31486191
it's one of those inter-branch idiosyncrasies. Navy and army dudes who have seen what these guys get for funding, equipment, assets, etc. know that they don't really know. I know a guy who worked intel in the Navy. He's like, a trustworthy guy. He told me that the seals had a fucking straight up tiki bar on their compound in Baghram. I believe him.

>>31486195
my message wasn't aggressive though

>>31486245
no, just whiny

>>31486245
I thought it was kinda.

>>31486256
ok you got me, but so is rambling different sf acronyms and their roles

>>31486270
What, would you have spelled out what JSOC and RSTA stand for?

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>>31473455
This is something like my current setup, except remove the alice pack, knife, and compass, and I replaced them with a 1.5l camelback that can hold a couple spare bottles of water/snacks. After getting into day hiking I realized that all you want and need is food, water, rig, mags, gun. I don't need the knife, don't need the alice pack, etc.

Then again my new setup is more like a 3 day shtf get away setup. Unfortunately I simply cannot go with my old 40lb setup because I'm a weak little nerd that can't hike for 8 hours with it without crying like a bitch.

>>31486399
I am interested. You should take a pic with the other gear that you're talking about and post it.

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posting my shit /k/it. it's light and holds a lot of mags and ifak. i'm going to get new combat pants and shirt after deployment.
>10 mags
>if I shoot nig nogs might as well shoot them all

>>31485523
Daniel Defense Omega
Drop in free float, pricey though.

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>>31481927
Nice dude. I've been trying to figure out a good way to store my shit.

I need to order some Howard Leights. What headstrap cover is that?

>>31483633
Of course dude.
The Patriot Armor Defense are 10x12" most likely. 5.5lbs per plate is pretty great honestly for legitimate level IV.

I haven't done much research on trauma pads.

Armour Wear supposedly doesn't have the best customer service, but $300 for Level IV plates an a carrier is a steal.

>>31483658
You got plates?

>>31484615
I'm just saying man, optics are really nice. I can shoot with irons just fine.

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>>31486465
Here's an updated photo. I know it looks minimalist, but I like it this way.

I guess y'all are good to ask about this; are electronic sound amplification earmuffs a meme or are they worth it? Any suggestions for the best pair?

>>31486848
Yeah they're GOAT

MSA sordins
Peltor comtacs
3m peltor tacitcal 6-S muffs

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>>31486871
Thanks for the info bud.

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>>31486925
np they're great for doubling up and listening to the spotter talk shit like you wouldn't hear.

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>>31486603
MAV is sexy as fuck bro. I like it.

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I need boots, cammies with built in elbow and knee pads, a load bearing vest for AK74 magazines, and a bump helmet.

Pls help. I am a walking firearm encyclopedia but I know next to nothing about gear

>>31487161
What level quality and price range you looking for?

>>31487239
Highest quality. Price isnt an issue.

>>31487161
Boots: look into Solomon's Quest range, also Asolo and Merrell, unless you wanna get really fancy and go for Lowa (Zephyr is all the rage rn desu)

Cammies: If you want built in knee pads your best bet is Crye Precision, depending on your weather situation get the standard or all-weather G3 set.

Vest: Do you want armor or not? Would you be satisfied with tried and proven concepts such as chinese chest rigs or do you want something tacticool?

Bump helmet: Team Wendy is getting a lot of attention lately but I'd go with Ops-Core.

Hope this helps.

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AVS shill again, finally got a proper pic of my gear.

Missing my radio, and trauma shears, also I usually have the Sordins on my Ops-Core. But you get the gist.

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>>31484823
Heres an older pic without my camelbak but Im sure you can use your imagination for that. I got 2 primary and 2 secondary mags up front and Ifak on the side. I also am adding 2 more mags on the opposite side

>>31484870
How do you have the scissors attached?

>>31474450

my type 63 bro

>>31478661
I'm looking for a chest rig like this, with a largish back pack/pouch. Any suggestions?

>>31473455
Can anyone reccomend a good level 4 Sapi ceramic standalone front and back rifle plate?

The carrier I'm using is

https://sotechtactical.com/products/black-viper-plate-carrier

Large

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>>31487142
Thanks man, how does the x harness feel compared to the regular straps?

>>31486806
Late last night I committed an impulse buy: Armour Wear package deal for 250. Got a pair of LVL IV standalones and a slick. 10x12 shooters cut, multicurve

After watching it take 6 .308 AP rounds I couldn't help myself. Still wondering what the catch is because 250 for a pair + PC is just ridiculous...they're practically giving away free plates

>>31488955
You know those Blackhawk belts are hot garbage, right?
I don't want to hear about you getting killed because you trusted Blackhawk to tether you down on a heli

>>31489090
meant for >>31487488

>>31489090
No I didn't know that, I've been happy with it so far, but I'll look into it.

...Thankfully I've never been in a helicopter.

>>31474092
>spends all money on optic

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>>31473455
Hate this thing, too bulky.

>>31489423
What's the point of a free float rail if your optic is half mounted on the rail? Doesn't that defeat the point by removing any additional accuracy you would have gained?

>>31489384
It's not a bad move. Optics are important, and the difference between spendy and cheap ones is noticable. You can get away with poorfag chestrigs and still be doing good though.

>>31486025
I remember after I first got out of the military and I wouldn't tell people about it, I'd listen to other former military guys on campus constantly do this. It's amazing how many "basically Special Forces" guys are out there.

>>31489779
I'm pretty sure the accuracy gained is from the foregrip/rails not touching the barrel, i.e. not bending it ever so slightly while holding

>>31489797
I know it helps with muh barrel harmonics.

I thought the point was that the handguards would shift independently of the barrel as well. So it the handguard was rested on the bench or gripped extremely tightly with a slinghold something, any slight bend wouldn't transfer to the barrel. I've never seen freefloats with the optics mounted anywhere by the receiver.

Legit curious, since my knowledge of freefloating is limited.

You all look like fags

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>>31489925

>>31489829
Mine is too, and that sounds like it makes sense so you're probably right

>>31489041
I bought the same package. Then sold the plate carrier on eBay. I have no experience with plates besides these but they work in banshee; pig brigadine and the lbt 60blahblah. I think the only downside us they're shaped kinda different and they weigh more than other ceramics

>>31486806
>What headstrap cover is that?
USTS

>>31473743
damn i kinda hate i laughed out loud

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>>31489384
I wish I was that smart earlier.
If you're going to buy glass buy good glass.

What makes you think I'm a wise guy? I've spent a king's ransom on gear and just to come back to the Chicoms.

>>31486399
Bk7 or 9

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Has anybody ever tried dyeing chicom gear? What dyes work best on em? I'm looking to make pic related black

>>31491692
Bk9.

>>31486935
Sorry but what movie is the pic from?

>>31487488
Reverse shingles on the back is very interesting.

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>>31491731
boku no pico

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>>31487488
I'm digging the paintball style mag pouches in the back

>>31489990
>>31489829
That does makes since but there are pics of mil rifles with optics co mounted on the receiver and float rail. That said, it's very much an ongoing debate, and I would rather not mount optics like that. But also you do mount your bius on your free float, sooooo...

>>31491793
Sorry lol it totally looks like a movie.

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>>31491765
>>31491810

Funny things with back pouches. It actually turns out that the back platebag rides comfortably sufficiently in a higher position, meaning I can reach all pouches easily with either hand.

I was actually thinking of putting them there to help out my friends innawoods, but when I put them there I put the PC on and was like, "wow, these are actually super comfortable"

Which means I have 6 more mags at my disposal in a light PC configuration

Another cool thing is that if I want to take a bug-out bag for ~72h, I can just remove the back platebag from the harness, allowing me to comfortably carry a 10-15l pack.

(Pic related, but I have a different pack)

>>31492152
Forgot to add: And the pack carries my back plate.

>>31492152
Do you like the backpack?

>>31492211
>what is reading comprehension

>>31487681
thrown into the admin pouch.

>>31492377

>>31487681

actually I'm dumb its a kangaroo pouch.

>>31491708
Your best bet is getting regular fabric dye and adding vinegar and boiling it.

>>31485963
Plates are generally supposed to cover your heart and lungs, since a hit to these will kill you in minutes without medical attention. Gut shots, on the other hand, are survivable for hours; long enough to get you airlifted to a hospital.
Also, your belly is the most flexible part of your torso. Make the plates too tall, and you lose maneuverability.

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Scored a cool set of ATACS FG cold weather gear off AKFiles.

Some made in China stuff but the quality isn't too bad. Should be fun to dick around in once it gets cooler

>>31492421
Would bleaching beforehand help?

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>>31492689
I may need that, let me know how it holds up.

>>31493033
will do floral nig

it's pretty comfy. Should be fun to try out

>>31490997
Question for you, or anyone in general. How add rails to just a standard AR handguard? Just any rail section and bolt it on?

>>31491810
What handgun? SP2022? If so, what holster? Been looking around, some opinions would be nice.

My Spiritus Systems NV-119 just came in. Initial thoughts:

Should conceal better than most of its competitors, since the cummerbund attachment points are offset to the side of the platebag instead of the front.

Adjustment range on the cummerbund is great, shoulder straps not so much. Right now it hangs slightly too low for me. Could extend the adjustment range with some adhesive backed velcro in the platebag, or just do more shrugs.

No internal plate hanger or anything so you pretty much have to use plates identical in size to the ones they designed it for.

>>31492926
Nah. That'll weaken the fabric. Use the regular rit dye. Not the poly cotton one. Boiling is good. I've used salt not viniger. If you want go super cheapo go to joann fabrics or Michael's and use the 40% off coupons they always have online. It'll be like $3. Of course Walmart may sell it that cheap. Idk.

>>31493057
Check out Amazon. There's a few options for pic rails that attach to the vent holes on standard two piece handguards.

Also looks like a P226, not an SP by any means.

Looks like any one of the custom holsters that companies make. You may want to look into KT-Mechanical, they do nice kydex work.

>>31492689
just be advised, that pattern looks nothing like legit ATACS

>>31493193
Thanks, m8. Do you guys know if the other anon who was planning to buy a type 63 suspender rig like that followed through? If not, I'd be happy to share my thoughts on it

>>31493323
yeah I know haha. It's close enough to both FG and a similar color pallet to multimeme that it should do the job just fine for me.

I was trying to do some searching to see if I could find what it was closest to but I haven't had much luck

Does anyone have the Camo pic for the US?

I am in SoCal and was considering getting some ATAC-S. Thoughts?

>>31493367
I'm here too much and I haven't seen it . I'd be interested in hearing it.

>>31491848
>That does makes since but there are pics of mil rifles with optics co mounted on the receiver and float rail.

I've actually never encountered somebody with a rifle setup like that. Even so, just because a cherrypicked picture of something exists, don't take it as the gospel. Military people fuck up gear or might be making a context specific compromise that isn't visible from a single still photo.

In general, people with freefloated handguards were heavily discouraged from mounting optics on the handguard.

>But also you do mount your bius on your free float, sooooo...

BUIS is backup. It's right in the name. If you don't have a fixed front sight, there's really no other way to mount your irons. Again- backup. If you need them, you probably aren't worried about a few MOA shift.

>>31493585
Alright, here goes. I originally bought this hoping that the mag pouches would hold 30 rnd stanags since I've read many a time that 20 rnd ak mags fit 30 rnd ar mag pouches. Since type 63 mags are 20rnd ak mags with a different locking system, I'd be gtg, right? Wrong. That said, it's and excellent choice for ar 20 rounders. 2x fit in each pouch and are easily grabable without magpulls, yet sit deeply enough that one mag won't fall out after the first one has been extracted. This is important since the pouches close with the "Spanish fly" method which opens quickly and smoothly, but closing isn't something one wants to do in a firefight.

Somebody should an inforgrahpic for chink shit and what fits in them.

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>>31493829
The pouches have the usual reinforcing at the base and plastic hardware. Fastening the rig is accomplished via a simple plastic buckle which holds surprisingly well. Suspender adjustment is identical to type 56 sks stripper clip bandoliers with pleather/leather keepers securing the slack. There are magazine pouches at the 7-8, 9-11, and 1-2 o'clock, positions when the belt is fully cinched down on a skelly like me. At the 6 o'clock is an open section with two cinch straps for further waist adjustment beyond the belt, seen here all the way cinched.

>>31493057
What are you looking to add?

This is what I used to mount my light.
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/tmc-1-light-mount-n-slot/

there is a metric ton of companies that make rails for a2 handguards.

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>>31493975
The 3-5 o'clock position is occupied by a panel designed to hold either stick grenades or smg magazines. Either could be secured by a flapped upper loop with identical hardware to the mag pouches, and a "bucket" of fabric at the base. Glock brand Glock extendos might fit, but I have no means to test this. From the bottom to the top of a closed flap is roughly 8.5in, and the bottom "bucket" is about 5.5in in internal circumference.

>>31494100
Modding Potential:
The usual adding of fastex buckles and padding to the straps would nicely enhance this piece of gear, though not uncomfortable without it. Holding 8x 20rnd ar mags, loads won't warrant adding of padding to the inside, though it could be done. Replacing the fastening belt's buckle with a fastex buckle isn't as necessary as on average tie-fastening chicom rigs, but this, too, is an option. The biggest modding potential comes from, luckily, the generally most useless area: the grenade panel. Removing the panel's current grenade holding bits leaves an 8.5x8.5 area to add whatever pouches or molle webbing you desire.

>>31494100
Who should look into this rig?
Anons who use 20rnd ar mags know the pain of having little pouch support besides nam era USGI pouches which are generally beat to shit. This piece of gear, while also 'nam era, is in like new condition and is lighter and less noisy than an ALICE belt full of USGI pouches.

I neglected to mention earlier that the mag pouches can easily fit 3in shotshells. I can't give a ballpark estimate as to how many could fit per pouch, but AT LEAST a dozen making this a potential choice for scattergat-wielding anons.

Of course someone using 20rnd ak mags would get good use from this too, as that was its intended purpose after all.

Finally, this piece of gear is skelly friendly

T. 120lb 5'8

>>31493710
Different anon but...
Literally every SU-231 + 3x magnifier combo goes accross the rail and the upper receiver. Look up the pictures if yu want. The whole point of an FF rail system is that it's free floating, won't fuck with any poi or harmonics, and zeroing is a thing that is possible with sights. You can compensate for any 'droop' at all by re-sighting in the sights, but a quality ff attatchung system (i.e. DD bolt up or similar) will keep the rail perfectly in place.
Source: 3rd BCT 82nd Airborne, 2nd Bat. 75th Rangers. Lots of time with a block ii gun with an Eokek mounted across the UR and rail.

>>31493710
Yes and I said that it's an ongoing debate, Why didn't you quote the part that said I wouldn't do it?

>>31494525
attaching* fucking phone

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best way to add more mag pouches? not a fan of the retention system for what I have now, maybe it needs to get broken in but it's really hard to remove the mags.

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>>31494643
just keep doing reloads.
like hundreds of them.

>>31494676
fugg ok. whats the best way to add 3 more mags tho

ive been told only 3 is not enough

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>>31494687
just add a belt, or throw a double mag pouch onto your cummerbund

>>31494722
cool, decent double mag pouches?

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>>31494787
LBT, Crye Precision, first spear come to mind.

>>31487488
Your marsoc loadout a shit

>>31494824
thx senpai

Best 3 day pack?

Best Packs?

Should I go Fannypack or battlebelt? Which ones would you recommend for each?

I'm looking for an all-MOLLE chest rig that is swift clip compatible. I want to snap it to my FlatPack and make like a patrol rig. Any recommendations? Is the HSGI AO chest rig compatible with swiftclips?

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Nogear here, how do I into gear?

>>31495017
Get a civilian fannypack from REI or get the FirstSpear one that's grey with burnt orange accents. It's a low profile solution for carrying essentials you might need. A small first aid kid, a survival kit, a folding knife and/or multitool, some high energy foods like Clif bars, and some little creature comforts like a folded rain poncho or crossword book can go in easily. Just pack them in separate ziplocs and you're good to go in case you need to go low profile and carry just the most basic of essentials.

>>31494525
If you really torque on the rail it's possible. This is more likely with something like 2 scope rings as opposed to a single throw lever mount. Also the DD bolt up is a lot stiffer than many of the tube rails people are in love with lately.

Is there a way to convert a non-Swiftclip PC to accept Swiftclip placards?

>>31496173
Velocity Systems has a kit that lets you convert any carrier to a Swiftclip carrier. They literally just slide into the MOLLE. Cheap, too.

>>31496199
I was looking at that and wondering if that was in fact what it sounded like. Doesn't Swiftclip require loop velcro on the placard area to keep it from bouncing around?

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>>31493413
late, sorry
don't believe it's authoritative by any measure

>>31494687
check it
http://ferroconcepts.com/collections/balcster/products/fcpc-cec-carry-elastic-cummerbund

>>31496173
http://www.skdtac.com/Mayflower-SwiftClip-p/mfr.110.htm

>>31490935
by shaped different do you mean better?
Any reason to believe they wouldn't work with 80%+ of PC if they fit those major ones?

>>31495914
A condor chest rig would go well with that rifle

>>31496223
Sort of. If you clip the top and the sides of the placard (if it has side clips), it'll be pretty stable. It'll be even more stable if you have velcro, though. If you have MOLLE on the front of your carrier instead of velcro, go to Tactical Tailor's site and order that patch panel things. It's like velcro that you attach via MOLLE. It's designed so you can put agency patches like POLICE or MEDIC on the back of first responder plate carriers, but it'll work just as well as loop velcro for swiftclip. It's not elegant, but it works.

>>31496156
Google the SU-231, or I think it's the EOTech 553

>>31496234
I though Condor was shit?

>>31496282
I forgot TT even made those. Thanks! I only gear queered a decade ago for airshit, and I've got a Paraclete SOPC from the ARFCOM buy coming in next month, so I've been playing catchup and I've suddenly realized I need both a setup for my PCC and my actual rifle, so this will help a lot.

>>31496345
He's calling your rifle shit

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>>31473455
Fug, I'm really digging your rig man. What kind of plate carrier is that? I've been thinking about buying pic related in ranger green. MSRP is like four hundred smackeroos. Should I buy it or did you get yours for cheaper? And would you say you like yours?

>>31496695
OP's rig is a FirstSpear, and yes, it is cheaper than the LBT you posted. The only more expensive rigs FirstSpear offers are their maritime ones with integrated flotation. Those go for a grand to a grand and a half.

>>31491708
I have that one. No idea on what to use the stick grenade area for