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STALKER AK crossover thread

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>>31459975
sorry, i don't have any plum mags

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>black anodization and polymer

Somebody trade me an RK-3 I don't wanna spend 120 for one

Just got my local gun store to order me an SLR104FR(side folding polymer in 5.45) because they can't get the side folding triangle. Is this pretty much the best I can do without buying a rifle dynamics?

>>31460021
Assuming you're Finnish, is that mag issued to you or is it your own?

>>31460035
just cut your current grip in the middle with 45 degree angle

>>31460021
Is that one of the Finnish AKs?

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It having a #lefthanded AK

>>31460053
my own, we only got issued with those black waffle mags
>>31460059
yes rk-95

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I got some of these rare Belgian waffle bakelite mags from armslist. $80 each.

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IGHT DEN

>>31460076
Wat

>>31460079
Ayyyyyy

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bought a non-refurb 1951

>>31460076
zasta plz

>>31460079
oh gawd, never heard of them, must rare and totally worth the price

>>31460076
with ULTRA RARE right mounted Obzor and PROTOTYPE left side stamped mag.

>>31460079
HAHAHA HAHA I LOVE WHEN YOU POST THIS IT GETS FUNNIER EVERYTIME HAHAHA HA

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A PMAG PAINTED LIKE A BAKELITE HOLY FUCK MY SIDES

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>>31460078
I guess you're Finnish then? I want one so badly :/

>>31460058
Different aesthetic tho

>>31460097
How much? It's beautiful

>>31460078
Ok neat. Did you buy that mag locally or somewhere else?

Also, are the issued mags only 30 rds. or do they have any other variants?

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I've S T I L L got no bakelite anything

>>31460103
yes, just buy one?
>>31460106
fair enough

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>>31460122
$690. KBI import. Pretty fair price for a true non-refurb.

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>>31460129
bought it from varusteleka, cos A E S T H E T I C
and yes only 30 rds. well there is chrome 15 round mag and to some extent 75 drums, both are very limited

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>>31459975

>>31460175
Ooooh sicknasty. You have any pics of the drums?

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PLUM A BEST

>>31460132
They're not for sale in the US

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Just got my local gun store to order me an SLR104FR(side folding polymer in 5.45) because they can't get the side folding triangle. Is this pretty much the best I can do without buying a rifle dynamics?

>>31460230
why would you even want polymer on an AK
Nyet rifle is fine

>>31460230
Not too hard to find triangles to slap on there, my dude.
Scope the Files from time to time.

>>31460230
Anyone know what the top part of the gas tube is and the gas block/front sight combo?

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>>31460191
in fact, yes i do.
>>31460197
they used to be, so there are some in us

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>>31460247
>Nyet rifle is fine
Do you only have retro furniture on all of your firearms?

>>31460257
Thanks my dude.
Are those drums Finland manufactured or bought from someone else?

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>>31460249
Yeah I already found a russian folder so I'm scooping that up next paycheck. I hear they are really easy to swap out.

Wish I could have gotten a russian ak :/

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>>31460097
>>31460146
It's so beautiful it makes me want to buy an SKS instead of a VEPR

>>31460278
i think they are russian drums, but either way bought elsewhere

>>31460288
Yee. Just pop a pin and drop it in, replace pin after.

>>31460257
I thought only 62s were in the Us.

>>31460041
Yeah you did great if you even thought a RD ak was an option. Why would you ever pay that much for an ak when the 600-1000 dollar ones do the same shit.

>>31460257
Your thinking of the older rk62 I think. We can't get the 95s because lel full auto and I don't think any rk92s have gotten out of Finland because of the limited run and that they are apparently highly valued over there

>>31460288
There's a dude on the files selling decent ones for 60 bucks, don't overpay too much on them. Even brandnew ones are only like 90 some bucks

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>>31460097
That's hot

>>31460100
To rare 4 u

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>>31460306
i thought you meant RK's in general, yes only 62's
>>31460317

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>>31460315
I always just thought they were the best for some reason :(
>>31460330
That's about what I saw this one for so seems like they're decently easy to find
>>31460305
Any special tools needed?

>>31460290
I'd prioritize the Vepr while they're still imported and pick up a nice SKS later.

>>31460336
always wanted a non-refurb. The original shellac is really nice on some of these.

>>31460346
Hypothetically if I were to get all the details on measurements and had a person mill out a new receiver based on the specs would I be violating any Finnish patents.

>>31460352
All I used was a hammer, a punch, and a screw driver.
You need to remove the pistol grip before you start.

Be careful which triangle you buy since some of them use a 4.5mm pin and others use a 5.5mm pin. Not interchangeable unless you bore out the smaller one which is not advisable.

>>31460398
Do you know what size Arsenals use?

>>31460391
Are you the same anon convinced that you could make a dragunov if someone would give you the dimensions?

>>31460429
Arsenal uses a 4.5 mm

>>31460429

4.5mm pin

>>31460429
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177014

gave it the ol' googlerino

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Well, the FL /k/ meet was a success; I sold the donkey dong kit that Apex shipped to me for no good reason (and didn't want back I guess) and shot a shitload of different AKs.

>>31460391
quick google search didn't find any mentions of said patent, also milled ak recievers are free game

>>31460459
>>31460461
>>31460462
Thanks guy

>>31460436
No but he sounds like a great guy and I might steal his idea

>>31460476
Alright now to find a Finn that will strip down a 95 and give me alot of pictures

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>>31460467
>stuck 3 hours south for the entire thing

Still upset about it desu

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>>31460505
you're 2 years late on my part

>>31460531
Find and convince a friend that is still in to send pictures to you to then post on akg

>>31460524
>mfw someone complained about how "there's never any M1 Garands" at the FL /k/ meet
Hilarious. Stuck at work, or what? I had to work Friday but went out on Saturday night.

Help me out /akg/, I need to know if I can buy an AK-74 style gas block and just slap it on my 7.62x39 WASR without fucking the whole thing up. Should I just leave it with the normal slanted one and get used to it?

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>>31460568
Just couldn't justify a 7-8 round trip when I only have like less than 1000 rounds of ammo outside the 7N6 crate I have. Also had to be down in Ft Lauderdale on Saturday to pick up the FAL anyways. I'll probably try to go to the next one or something though

Can someone link to a triangle folder stock that will work for an arsenal AK74 sidefolder polymer? My google-fu is failing me. Also what's the most effective flash hider for a 74? Not looking for a muzzle break or compensator, just flash suppression.

>>31460605
>going from a 45 degree gas block to a 90 degree gas block

It'd be worlds easier just to leave it and get used to it.

>>31460647
Bulgarian 4 piece, Manticore nightbrake, and that Ukrainaian one that looks like a Bulgy 4 piece I forget the name of. Someone here was trying to sell one a bit ago

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272305

>>31460605
total waste of time and way more trouble than it's worth. Also probably not as easy as you think to accomplish.

>>31460647
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/586604163

>>31460647

Bulgarian triangles are unobtanium, unless you buy the SLR with the triangle stock, (which is original bulgarian) a russian 4.5mm is the one that will fit.

>>31460759
eeeeh Bulgarian stocks are a great deal less commonly seen floating around for sale but calling them unobtanium is definitely a stretch

>>31460146

I snagged a 51 Tula for $350 from a local classified page, its in pretty good shape besides some black pitting on the bolt carrier, it's a light refurb I presume.

Stock is a replacement from a 54 tula, and the bayonet is like a matte chrome color which I believe was done during refurb.


And of course has the box with a slash from the Ukrainian refurb facility, everything is original besides the stock which is forced matched obviously.
does yours have the early style bolt? these don't have a extractor retaining pin, you can remove the extractor with your hand easily, would like to buy a spare but can't find them anywhere.

>>31460799

Try to find one for sale on google, I can't find a single one for me.

>>31460850
having the stock match was critical for me
I'm not sure about the extractor because the gun isn't in my hands yet. '51 is early on the SKS production timeline so it's possible.
I've seen better non-refurbs but they usually go for $1000 or more.

>>31460863
Bruh, not being able to find one for sale on google is not what qualifies something as unobtanium. Kvar used to sell these on their website. That's where I bought mine. The reason why there are so many Russian triangle folders now is because the Russians have figured out they can make money off their junk parts by selling them to Americans. ~5 years ago the Russian stocks were actually less common than the Bulgarian ones. Lurk AKfiles and one will come up eventually. They're definitely out there.

>>31460934
I just saw one on files the other day.

>>31460863
Get a nice shape rolled rib aks74u stock and I'll trade you my Bulgarian

>>31460622
That sucks. I wish I had been able to go out on Saturday, but life always get in the way. Anyway, hopefully the next time around it won't rain prior to the event so that there aren't as many thigh deep puddles and mosquitoes.

I love my Bulgarian triangle with the pre installed pad.

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>>31460934

The early Sks bolts are also spring loaded, so slam fires wont be a issue, they switched halfway between 51 and 52 to the bolt with a extractor retaining pin.

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Muh Bakelite.

>>31461070

same, but I put a gp25 pad on anyway because its cool.

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>>31461163
GP-25 pads are amazing.I kinda wanna use the leather strap for a watch too, if I ever buy one of the RATNIK watches to go with my shit

>>31459975
where did you get the PBS?

>>31461107
ive got a "sneak" russian sks with mismatching dust cover. i have to go check mine now. ive always pegged it for mid 1950s

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>>31460146
Got it off gunbroker about 6 months ago
>lost all my decent pics when my phone died

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What scope mount should I get for my Vepr? It's in .30-06 so could I still get the Russian style and adjust it or should I get a side mount with a picatinny rail?

I'm thinking about getting Midwest industries side mount for the picatinny option.

I'm not sure what I should look for on the POSP side of things, but I'm interested in that too.

>>31461666
POSP with a 7.62x54r reticule would probably be close to .30-06 ballistics

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>>31461821
what happened?

>>31461821
No gore pls

>>31461821

Did you buttstroke a tree or something?

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>>31461686
Ok, I just read this page.

http://kalinkaoptics.com/manual/KOPOSPFixedManual.pdf

I can't fine tune it to my .30-06? I know 7.62x54r is close, but 50m adjustments seems like a lot. At least if I'm reading correctly.

>>31461821
Nice folding stock.

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i am seriously thinking about buying pic related, but i would like some input from /k/. would i be making a bad choice?

>>31461821
super rare detachable folding stock

>>31461898
You're gonna zero the center so it hits at whatever distance you zero it for, let's use 100m as an example. Now just learn where each spot is gonna hit for .30-06. It'll be something you just have to deal with, they don't make Russian scopes in American calibers, but 7.62x54r is pretty easy to equate to .30-06

>tfw feel pressured to go on /akg/ all the time to keep up with news and to keep learning about the platform

anyone else know this feel?
Like it isn't even fun anymore, I keep coming back because if I don't I'll feel like I'm falling behind

>>31461944
Yes

>>31461944
if your hobby isn't fun, you must take a break

>>31461937
Ok, but obviously the built in range finder will still find the approximate distance of an object from me though. The lower chevrons just won't exactly match up but the top one will.

>>31461944
>>31462024
That's obsession. I used to do that with computer hardware, but then I realized that I will never buy every graphics card and CPU. I've been running the same rig for 4-5 years now and I'm fine.

>>31461944
Had the same problem with /k/ in general.
I'm not really into the autistic memeing and animetrash kind of cringe that goes on in this board, so I took a break for a year or so.

Now I only chill in /akg/. There's still some shit in here, but it's not bad.

>>31462103
Yea the range finder is a different system than the windage and bullet drop. Honestly the windage/lead one will be the one that fucks you up more than drop, but it probably won't matter too much anyways since you're not going into battle or taking the VEPR to 800 yards anyways

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>>31461916
>That website

Where you at breh?

>>31462132
in wisconsin breh

>>31462125
Thanks

>>31462125
I will collect my aye kays and fulfill my prophecy. You will not stop me.

>>31461916
It is HEAVY AS FUCK.
Heavier than what it should be.
Its not fun to haul around, its bulky and has feed issues.
Source: I have (had) 2

>>31462240
have you tried fixing any of the feed issues?
different mags, ammo, modifying the gun itself?

>>31462142
>in wisconsin breh

Hello from your neighbor to the left of the river.

VA-fag, when are you sending out the next batch of bakelites?

>>31462279
hello friendo, how goes it

>>31462310
>hello friendo, how goes it

It goes. Did a little blasting today along with some wrenching on a van.

>>31461821
you tried to fold it with a scope on didn't you?

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Let's spice this thread up a bit

post your tools/cleaning supplies, and then ask what you might need/not need

I'll go first

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>>31461944
Aye.
>>31462103
Consumer PC hardware is carrot and stick, not much to learn either. With firearms I can never know too much. Wasn't a fan of AK rifles until a year or two ago either, so I'm infodumping myself at rates previously thought impossible. /k/ is a good way to stay on the bleeding edge and still pick up old and relevant info.

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>>31462507
Ky check

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>>31462507
Gotta have a buffer to keep shit shiny.

Nah, your setup looks perfect.

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AK-74 Prototype mag sold for $1950.00 on theakfourms.

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>>31462839

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>>31462854

>>31462871
Link

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If someone in the US made a copy of the Groza would you buy it?

who in their right fucking mind would ever buy a magazine for 2000

>>31462882
http://www.theakforum.net/forums/35-want-sell-ak-parts-accessories/212122-30-round-experimental-5-45-horizontal-rib-steel-mag.html

>>31462915
Some collector.

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>>31462915
People who have $2000 but don't have one of those mags.

>>31462915
It's a collector's piece just like anything else, don't think of it as just a magazine

>>31462125
>>31461937
I have the same question for 5.45 scope and a 5.56 scope?
Would it be similar enough to just learn?

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>>31462915
AK collectors are fucking crazy.

Example: I bought this 1983 Izzy kit in 2014 for $660 and ordered a 74u LLC receiver that is *finally* about to be finished after a two year wait. My friends think I'm fucking crazy for being so OCD about details instead of just buying an Arsenal, but they also haven't seen the exact same kits (sans sling and bayonet) going for over $2,000 on Gunbroker lately like I have.

>>31463003
I'm pretty sure, Primary Arms even has their ACSS scope labeled as 5.56 or 5.45 so I imagine it wouldn't be hard. You can technically zero any scope to any caliber, it's just gonna be your mildots or whatever fancy shit is in the scope won't be perfect

>>31463021
thanks!

>>31462885
Yes. Depending on price of course

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>>31462885
Sign me up. As long as it wasn't Century or IO.

>>31462885
I've considered doing this before, the only problem is the SBR stamp. If you can import a carry handle and that lower handguard it'd be 10x easier even. Some people have tried making these before and made decent copies even

>>31463208
Those parts wouldn't be importable, but shouldn't be too hard to make or copy close enough.

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>>31462885
I'd own any 9x39 weapon if I could.

>>31463227
>minor parts exclusion

If I can get someone to get me them you bet your ass I'd try to

>>31463238
Minor parts exemption doesn't apply to guns not on the VRA approved list, but I get the sense you're avin a laff.

It would be worth a shot depending on how much they charged you. Since they are rare even for Russia, I'm guessing it would be a lot.

>>31463253
Definitely, and if I really did have the chance I would at least send a mail to the ATF anyways since the worst they can do is say no. If you could get even luckier you'd have someone in Russia blueprint it and send you a CAD file to throw in a CNC mill

>>31461821
Explain this shit

>>31463272
As someone who works in the industry, I can tell you it's a hard no. Also, don't bother sending letters to the ATF unless you have 6 months to burn. Better off calling them, having them transfer you to a specialist, then leaving a voice message. They'll get back to you in a week.

Honestly, you might be able to ask the manufacturer. If it's not still in production, sometimes they don't give a shit.

>>31463301
If I spoke Russian and were willing to pay the money for an international call maybe. It's made by Tula though so who knows, maybe you could even Email them

>>31463318
There's some chance they would answer an email. You'd have to make it look like a very official request or they'll toss it out.

>>31461821
Not mine


>>31463208
Haha, finding any Groza parts, you'll have better luck getting VSS stuff. At least you can find some

how to people put ultimaks on WASRs? arent all the gas tubes bent to shit?

>>31463428
how do*

>>31459975
It looks like PSA's AK offering is better than a WASR.

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love the magnum more>>from the old school 80's freak

I got a parts kit with a chrome lined barrel made of 4140 steel. It has some weird looking greyish blotches on it. Anyway to clean this off?

>>31461916
I feel like it would be better if you found one of the PAP pistols with with the STANAG mag adapter just so you aren't having to find .223 AK mags that work with it, but thats me

Cheapest solution for a non shit 74 currently?
How hard are VEPR 5.45 conversions?

>>31463428
The ultimak replaces the gas tube. And Ive never heard of WASRs having bent gas tubes. How does that even work?

>>31463472
I like my PSA AK gen 2

>>31463750
mind numbingly easy.

Literally a child could convert a vepr. Molot has gone out of their way to make it as easy as possible while still having maximum plausible deniability.

>>31460653
Thanks, anon. Guess I'll just have to get myself another extra AK. Not sure if I wanna go with an AKS-74 clone in 5.45 or stick with 7.62x39.

>>31463857
How about swapping the handguard and adding a gastube cover? I know there are adapters for rear

>>31463787
i know what an ultimak is, i was just worried about accuracy issues with the general cant of most WASRs

>>31461916
But .223 is wasted on a short barrel. Just get x39 if you need a barrel that short.

>>31463016
Still not a real Russian. No barrel.

>>31464709
derp, no receiver either

>>31462285
Whenever they arrive. I'll check the tracking numbers later since I'm at work now

>>31463082
what kind of AK is that mushed up tail from?

>>31465597
2015 production WASR-10

>>31460230
You got the best stock. Fuck anesthetics only function and weight matter

How long from customs to U.S. from Europe?

>>31460230
more details on the ak in the pic?

>>31465786
Its a Jim "dime rock" Fuller custom

>>31465830
figured
is he a crack fiend?

>>31465859
Looks more like a meth fiend

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「WAKE ME UP」

>>31465971
U don't neeeeed a sniper site

>>31465971
your mom needs to stay out of your shit

>>31465971
You need to move out of mommas basement.

>>31466051
No name on the package according to mom

>>31466067
Yeah. But I also need to pay for college and that shit is expensive
>>31466051
I'd honestly prefer Russian Secret police because then there's a chance you could bribe them

they are expensive, but how overpriced is Rifle Dynamics?
might budget to buy one later this year

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>>31466128
Living on campus so I ship shit home, dad always opens my packages but I don't usually get onaholes or notes covered in memes.

pic related

>>31463787
What's the furniture like? Do you like it?

>>31466183
For a production rifle. Way overpriced.

For anything custom like a conversion they are good to go.

I live here and been there and shot some of their rifles.

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>>31465971
Now imagine your mom opening a box full of magazines for a group buy

>>31460041
Unless you just WANT a RD ak, I wouldn't suggest buying one, and in due others here would agree, because they aren't anything better than less expensive aks like arsenal or definitive arms. You did good. Now stock up on ammo and magazines. For ammo check out sgammo, gunboat, and I think it's in ammo(?)

>>31466382
Ugh, I hate my phone.
I'm sure*
Gunbot*

>>31466415
were you at M05 launch party last night?

>>31466071

It could have been a fucking bomb.

>>31466578
Explain your point

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>>31466578
A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.

>>31464709
It's nigh-impossible to get a real, era-correct Russian receiver in the US (Saigas have minor differences), or to have the gun be 100% Russian after 922r.

Still won't stop AK collectors from dropping $2K+ on the kit in that photo.

>>31466654
>got a kit from Rguns weeks before they ran out
Feels good man

>>31460467
>/K/ meet ups for your state
I wish someone in Alabama would host one. I've never seen one succeed and I've lurked on /k/ for years. They always fizzle out before they start.

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>>31466013
you need lots of them

>>31466415
Man I love that paint job. Who makes your ak?

>>31466958
most likely Vepr KM with crapco flash hider

>>31466623

She's a dumb cunt for just opening any package she receives. Especially one with a language that is (I'm guessing) foreign to her.

>>31466716
That's where I got mine. Can't wait to have it finally built. I'm trying to avoid jumping right back down the rabbit hole and buying a Tula AKM kit though.

>>31466128
Get a PO Box. You can pick things up from the post office discreetly, and they're like $40/yr. I have all my mags shipped to my PO Box rather than my physical address, just for discretion.

Is there any non-shite AK available on the market currently? Everything is oos

>>31467110
That new VEPR at KVAR

>>31467122
>>31467110
It's A Setup For Failure Anon. No Bayo Lug, No Cleaning Rod.

>>31467240
what's the deal with capitalizing every word?

>>31467306
German Infiltrator.

>>31467306
Just A Reflex.

is polishing the hammer face of a g2 tapco a meme or a good idea

>>31467240
Seriously when the fuck did someone stab someone with a bayonet charge in self defense situation?

>>31467649
There was one dude who stabbed a home invader with a nugget bayo a few years back.

>>31460076
> stock folds to the right side of the gun

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>>31461915
That's really nice looking.

>>31467110
What do you mean non-shit?
PSA AK seems promising
SLRs
Used SGLs
Vepr AK

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>>31467649
Bayonets are an important part of psychological warfare. There's nothing quite like being on the pointy end of a bayonet; totally kills one's morale.

In terms of their use as a weapon directly, they were more crucial when lower capacity magazines and longer reloads could turn the tables. It makes a whole lot of sense to have one on your person if you are using a bolt action. For the modern detachable magazine rifle it's more for utility and psyops.

what are some good muzzle devices in 7.62?

>>31467898
Slant break

>>31467898
Week are you looking for flash suppression or muzzle climb reduction? YouTube will be a better place to find out desu, a few channels have done very extensive tests.

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>>31467898
I have this one and I love it. I got it after I saw Rob Ski using it. Really tames muzzle rise, and recoil impulse is reduced and more straight back. It is fucking loud though, and the concussion is pretty ridiculous, anyone who is shooting on either side of you will be uncomfortable.

>>31467924
I second the slant

>>31467924
replacing this

>>31467926
i dunno i guess flash suppression would be nice though i dont mind if its loud. just looking for cool aesthetic d e s u

>>31467933
>zenitco
isn't that overpriced

>>31467963
i think they look sloppy

>>31467001
You'll regret not picking it up if the kits run dry

how expensive are EG 74 bakes? saw some at a gunshow the other day for $28 a pop

>>31467974
If it's just for aesthetic then get whatever you like and are comfortable with spending.

>>31466318
Lol, that's already happened. She's only unhappy that I don't make any profit on it
>>31467057
That's a really good idea. Do they allow giant fuckhueg packages?

>>31468036
There's no margin left for you after your Russian friend quadruples his money.

>>31468036
Not him but i have a PO box as my house doesn't have a mail box. You can get almost anything sent there. There is different size boxes too. Give it a look.

>>31467000
I'm feeling like VA bought the PSO from somebody domestic

>>31467001
It's probably my favorite kit. Just plain gorgeous. I haven't ordered a receiver for mine. Been trying to find a 74u receiver to just outright buy.

I found a 74u receiver for my Izzy kit. Unfortunately it was a package deal with a Romy virgin barrel (good because I needed one) and another hand select Izzy 68 kit (bad because I didn't want it). So now I'm stuck with another kit I don't want that I have to sell, but it let me cut in line and get a 74u receiver without the wait. I'll probably send it off as soon as I can. My 69 hand select is my second favorite kit.

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>>31468191
I'll give send you a box of hotpockets for the 68 kit

>>31468036
>Lol, that's already happened.

The current group buy or a previous one? Cause if it's the current one I'm gonna start getting excited.

>>31468211
How many and what flavor

>>31468022
That's a steal.

>>31468245
Value 5 pack of pepperoni

>>31468262
No deal

>>31468262
>pepperoni
You tryin to cheat him boy?

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>>31467974
I got mine from a Russian guy oleg who runs akstuff.com and I think I payed $90 shipped. It's really nice and I'd rather support those guys who are getting us rusky stuff through back channels despite obongo. Is $90 overpriced? Idk how much do you make? I only wish I had a Russian rifle to put it on, right now it's on a Gypsy rifle. Pic related, we tried it on Daewoo's WASR.

>>31468310
>*holds you back*
.....chill man.... just business... nothing personnel...

>>31468310
I bet this faggot likes 4 cheese doesn't he

>>31468291
Name your price then

>publix has bogo

>>31468090
I get paid in magazines.
>>31468105
Neat
>>31468223
Previous group buy, sorry

>>31468257
yea I kinda figured, I grabbed 3 just to be safe, even though I don't have any AKs

>>31467240
>>31467122
I'm disappointed as hell... and was questioning their decision for a while.
But I think it'll still sell well enough.
People have been paying and working to do those "ak" conversions on veprs for years. And that's with slant-backs that'll never look 100% right.
Now the middle man is just cut out and you have it right from factory.
If it were up to me, I'd want a regular stamped receiver and barrel thickness. I don't see any reason to have the extra weight.

>>31468369
When will you be taking orders on the next group buy?

>>31467876
Everything is either overpriced, a part conversion, or falling apart. I'm looking for something decent is all.

How is that PSA? I'm checking it out now.

>>31468467
If they were smart they would bring in VEPR-KMs. Do the same thing that Arsenal does with SLRs. But I don't think they wanna cut into there own market buy doing that.

>>31468685
Vepr-KMs are reworked full autos with full auto receivers and "machine gun" barrels. They pretty much tick all the boxes on the list of things you can't import legally.

Chimps what's your take on PSAAK

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>>31469073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYMbjPneWFM

Watch the video, it came out yesterday.

>>31469073
The gen 2 seems to be doing well in Rob's test but the fact they recalled all of the initial release for headspacing issues raises eyebrows. Looks solid in Rob's test so far though.

>>31469208
Honestly I'm ok with a recall if they actually FIX all the issues and rerelease it in good condition, with no expense to people. Remember gen1 KSGs and UTAS

Another bungle

I want to buy an ak, i have about 850 to spend, what do i get?

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Got 2 during last Ivan sale. Love'em, what is this group by I missed out on? Been in a comma for a bit.

>>31469287
mak90

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good night /k/

>>31468191
Are you building yours as a full stock or a folder? I'm personally building mine into a folder, but I took the time to track down a proper Izzy folder so it stays "correct."

>>31465971
Did you like the cookies?

>>31468909
I knew that. Just make new semi auto receivers and shorter barrrls and bring it in like how Arsenal does with SLRs or Century does with WASRS.

>>31469778
*sporter barrels

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>>31469742
>tfw his mom ate them and never told him they were in there

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>>31469725
Full stock. I was planning on doing a folder because the stock that came with mine wasn't very pretty and it was scratched. So I sold that stock. But then someone offered to sell me a spare 1983 stock from a kit they made into a folder. It's absolutely gorgeous so now I'm back to doing a full stock. I delegated my folding stock hardware to my 1987 kit.

>>31469778
its true that Wasrs used to be made how you're describing but that was before the barrel ban for the most part. Now Wasrs and SLRs are entirely new guns, each and every part.

>>31460010
What mod?

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>>31469959
I added a cap as well, hopefully she didn't see it as an assault camo sniper hat.

>>31469999
nice digits.
new wasrs aren't made from old parts kits?
that's depressing.

>>31468036
>That's a really good idea. Do they allow giant fuckhueg packages?
Yes, if it's too big to fit in your box, they can put it in the back and hold it for you to pick up during window hours.

I just ordered 19 mags shipped to my box, I just have to swing out during window hours to sign for them. You can work just about anything out with your post office and the shipper.

>>31470035
>what are you doing with these sniper sites and sniper hats?!?! what cookies? I never saw any cookies. go to your room, you're in big trouble mister! wait till your father gets home.

>>31469999
Wait, did you buy that stock on AK Files earlier this month?

Because if so, that might actually be my stock.

hold me guys, I just bought two plum mags. Also no creeper, VAfag where abouts are you at? I'm also in va

>>31470049
Nope, new Wasrs are made from all new parts. Older Wasrs that have the year stamped on the trunnion are made from surplus parts.

>>31470205
No I bought it years ago

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I miss my PSL.

>>31470423
why'd you get rid of it? retard.

>>31470441
no bully pls
but in all seriousness, I traded it for a Thompson.

>>31470449
Semi or full? Stupid question I know.

>>31470449
no, I'm positive you deserve some bullying for that bonehead move.

LET THE BULLYING COMMENCE!

>>31470462
And here I thought I was the retard, semi.

>>31470478
How much are they going for anyhow?
I want another one, but to be honest I rather save for a Tigr or an actual Dragunov

>>31470497
PSL - $1600 and up.
Tigr - $5000 (if you're lucky) and up. WAY up
Actual Dragunov - who knows. $10k and up? there were so few of them imported that they're like unicorn farts.

>>31461916
I have the 6.62 version, and it is heavy as fuck. That being said, it is also extremely fun.

Also, see >>31464369

>>31470578
7.62*

>>31470497
Here's a chink (NDM86) for the low low price of $6300!
http://www.lionseek.com/guns/brand/dragunov/rare-norinco-polytech-pre-ban-dragunov-type-79-ndm86-7-62x51mm-svd-china-mil-sniper-3cab3a

>>31470539
TIGR and Dragunov are more like 15k on the low end last I heard. There's a TIGR barrel on AKFiles right now going for 1500 on its own

>>31470632
Tigrs are nowhere near $15k. $5k is a good estimate on Tigrs if you're looking for the "readily available" price. You can get them cheaper if you look around. I know Flandre paid much less than that for both of his.

>>31470653
not that guy....
I thought Flanders built his from parts kits. I could be wrong. Diddily.

>>31470653
Yea I saw the link above me right as I posted that, so I must be way off. What was the price the last time a real Dragunov sold though, does anyone know off the top of their head?

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>>31459975
I just bought a c39 v2, used great condition, for $700.
It's milled. Why is milled better?
>pic semi related

>>31470595
>7.62x51mm
54R or bust

>>31470678
>Why is milled better?
Spoiler; It isn't

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>>31470678
It's not

>>31470663
You're wrong, no such thing as a Dragunov parts kit build. He has two and they're both Tigrs.

>>31470665
A KBI Dragunov or a gray market Dragunov will always fetch over $10k, I think the last one that really caught my eye went for around 20.

>>31470691
>>31470697
Why is stamped better?

>>31470732
Well,
>lighter
>just as durable in any sane sense
>has a shitload more aftermarket support

>>31470732
>weight
>parts commonality
>price
>ease of manufacture
>barrel, bolt, etc will all break before receiver ever does

>>31470717
Oh ok. I could have sworn I saw pics he posted of parts and him talking about finding a guy that could build receivers for them. He might have been trolling too.

>>31470756
>lighter
>aftermarket

>>31470767
>price
>ease of manufacture
>barrel, bolt, etc will all break before receiver ever does
Let's take these out, they aren't advantages or superiority on my end.

>Lighter
Okay, that is a net benefit but the little bit of extra weight will at least make the gun shoot a bit nicer. Lighter is probably just better though really.
>Parts commonality
Like what? I have a tricked out AR so I got an AK with wood furniture because I want that "classic" look. What parts do you mean?

What about this?
>Generally, milled guns have a smoother action because they require more fitting.
http://www.guns.com/review/best-ak-milled-vs-stamped/

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>>31470777
Yeah he has a lot of spare parts but that's not unusual. I think he wants to convert one to an SVD type gun (possibly with the longer barrels from oilcan?) and convert the other one to an SVDS using an SVDS receiver stub and parts he got from a Russian. So yes he does have a lot of spare parts but I haven't heard anything about building one from scratch. Keep in mind the receiver and bolt carrier and bolt would all have to be fabricated, have to make sure you use the right steel and have the right heat treat, kind of a long shot.

Actually shooting an SVD at Nuggetfest kind of killed my boner for one. I truly appreciate the guy letting me shoot it but I didn't walk away saying "holy shit I have to have one of these"

>>31470833
Even with wood furniture you're gonna need to buy for a milled gun. So that means getting shitty Hungarian stuff (I believe) or buying new manufacture that looks like shit. No pretty Russian shellac 4 u. I wanna say the weight difference is almost a pound overall but someone correct me there. A smoother action due to fitting means you can fuck with it to make it nicer like on an AR sure, but your choices of milled are a SAM7 from Arsenal, and my stamped from them is pretty damn smooth anyways. Or a C39V2 which is a Century monkey build, don't expect quality from them

Anybody here have any experiance with the SLR-106FR. Im buying one dirt cheap. Im a police officer and GA and we sell off some of the guns we confiscate. Basically we confinscate them for various reasons like of they were carried in the comission of a crime or bought with the funds from a Crime. We got an SLR106 off a guy who was selling coke. He carried it in the car he was pulled over in. Had like 8 kilos of cocaine. Case is over he was convicted now the gun is ours and we sell it. I got the gun for $500. Its got 18 circle 10 30rd mags and 4 clear 20rd mags. I pick it up tomorrow. Ive got other AKs but this is my first in 5.56 and my first arsenal. Anyone got more info on the upside or downside of the guns?

>>31470886
Fuck you nigga that's like 500 dollars in magazines alone. Decent gun though, just check the serial range some of them had problems

>>31470897
W
Its a lot of mags. He kept them in kroger bags with the gun but only the 20rds were loaded. What types of problems?

>>31470833
Arsenal milled rifles are super nice, no doubt. I thought mine was a level nicer in every regard and the trigger was fantastic. It wasn't that much smoother, but It does cycle different, feels more solid. The balance is a little off with polymer stocks

You just have to be aware of the milled style stocks it accepts, drop down like an AK-47, or the side folder that Arsenal offers. Outside of that you'll have to get creative and hunts own rare Bulgarian parts or weld some shit together.

If you can get a good deal on a SA93 or 95, go for it.

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>>31470886
>$500
You fucking lucked out. I got mine almost new for $900 with a case and 4 Bulgarian mags. I love mine and I shoot it the most of all my ak's and everything my family has, including a SCAR 17 and PTR91. Mags are a but more pricey, but stick with black Beryl magazines and black Circle 10 mags and you'll be fine, don't mess with any clear mags as they do crack. 2k rounds on mine, no malfunctions.

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>>31470873
>Or a C39V2 which is a Century monkey build, don't expect quality from them
That's what I bought, $700, used but basically new, looks new.
Identical to this one. So you think this was a bad choice? I've not shot an AK just thought I'd pick one up.

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>>31470886
Some of these guns also had feeding issues with them which required arsenal to cut a more pronounced feed ramp on the barrel. Mine has been done before I got it. FRs were pretty much good to go, but I hear the short barrel versions had issues. If you have 18 mags already you should be good for now. When you get it take some photos of the feed ramp and chamber area as well as the bolt, I'm interested to see if Arsenal messed with yours at all.

>>31470938
Oh, and I HATE the way the grip looks but I figures that would be an easy fix.

>>31470938
Ahahaha, and this is what you want to use to argue FOR milled. They use a bunch of cast parts where they're not supposed to be used, it's not even going to have the same durability as a stamped WASR most likely. I'd replace your bolt and carrier and hope for the best mate

>>31470886
Pretty nice AK

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>>31470886

so are recoil buffers a marketing scheme?

>>31470956
>Ahahaha, and this is what you want to use to argue FOR milled
Holy shit dude, I was asking some questions. Honestly, you seem like a really shitty person.

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>>31471001
Calm down mate, it's banter. The milled vs stamped shit has seemed to pick up in the past few days. But I would legitimately replace your bolt and carrier since last I recall Century's in house ones are cast. You can't do anything about the rest of the parts they skimped on

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>>31470997
sort of.
the bolt carrier isn't supposed to do any damage to the rear trunion, but as you can see in this still from AKOU's latest video, sometimes it does. so in this case a buffer could help.

>>31469208
Pretty sure the headspace recall was for the Gen 1s.


Unless it happened again with the gen 2s which would be kind of funny if they had the same massive fuckup again.

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>>31471022
This, just get a standard stamped pattern AK if that's your budget.

>>31471022
>The milled vs stamped shit has seemed to pick up in the past few days
Not just that, those retarded bits of fuddlore that had previously been long since buried are also popping up again.
>Milled = more accurate
>Milled = whole rifle is automatically nicer
>Stamped = receiver goes to shit after "only a few years"

I'm hoping it's just the same few retards that are in full post-purchase rationalization mode after coughing up $1500 for some SAM-7s, but I'm seeing it with some degree of regularity now.

>>31471198
That's what "picking up" means

>>31471137
"The initial release"= gen 1's

Literally a Remington level fuckup

>>31470678
>>31470873
>>31470956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAMiqJm6li0
>Hickok45, "Seems like a good gun.. fixed all the stuff form v1... set it up like an AKM so it takes all the AKM furniture"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJTU_D1nd0
>Iraqveteran8888, "awesome, awesome gun"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w3PibNhNgo
>Military Arms Channel, "This rifle has been an outstanding rifle for me."

It's a good gun.

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>>31461184
a puss pad on a 5.45? REALLYY??

>>31471294
>set it up like an AKM so it takes all the AKM furniture"

Really?!?! That is definitely a bonus for my consideration of getting one.

>>31471294
Rob Ski said he didn't like it, and I trust him more than I trust the people who were loaned it or fire almost no rounds through/don't stress test it

>>31471318
>manlet with 6 inch arm span detected

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>>31466946
I second.

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>>31471318
Take it from sasquatch, it helps a lot with LOP. It makes a stubby stock comfortable for me, although it's still short.

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>>31471374
>sasquatch

>>31469287
Mak90, yugo, opap/npap, wasr, Atlantic polish build, DDI, unconverted Veprs are about the only ones in your price range. I don't know what price range the palmetto aks are in, since they are sold out, and it didn't have the price listed. If you can, save up your money and you can get arsenal or definitive arms in the $1000-1300 range, if you can find them in stock. For the price range, veprs is your best choice

>>31469742
I didn't eat them yet. She was kinda put off by including food and abandoned random hat.
>>31470292
NoVA area

>>31461916
Please do yourself a favor and do not buy that.

Buy a real AK at the least and when you buy a real rifle, avoid IO and Century.

You'll be glad you did when your rifle doesn't grenade @1000 rounds.

>>31471520
>abandon random hat
Ill have you know that is a special edition sniper hat.

>>31462116
This.

Fucking /ak/ boards shouldn't exist at all, let alone be a top thread.

>>31470678
Supposedly it's slightly more accurate because it's more rigid, but it's probably so little a difference that you won't notice most likely. Milled is stronger so it will stand up to more force, but will crack while stamped is not as strong, but will flex more before breaking. If any of that has merit, then there you go.

>>31471563
>things should or shouldn't be a certain way because I said so
sasuga anon

>>31471602
>trip fag
>defending /ak/ boards

Literal garbage human being

New thread

>>31471610

>>31471610

>>31471610

>>31471622
>>/ak/ boards
I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time.

Now it's clear you're just retarded.

>>31471647
>/ak/
>not /akg/

Now It's clear you're misinterpreting what I said.

AKs are fine weapons;

Anime is trash.

>>31471677
Nah, you're still retarded. And it's even better now because evidently you don't know why.

>>31471677
>>31471698

both of you just stfu already. you're both fucking annoying as fuck.

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>>31471709
it's a dead thread, I'm allowed to shitpost now

>>31470001
Autumn Aurora 2.1

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>>31471393
Yup.