Beretta 92fs

>>31456194
Don't waste your money.

How does it feel in your hand? If you like the way it points, shoots, and works, go for it.

>>31456194
casual target shooting yeah
compition ehh you can try

>>31456293
Ugh, always the drollest, dumbest advice

Duhhh duz it fit in ur hand duhhhh

>>31456194
They're fantastic pistols, and have been used for competition shooting before by people like Ernest Langdon. They're extremely reliable and comfortable to shoot.

I personally love them and even trust my life to a compact.

Beretta makes great pistols, the 92 series especially. Don't get jewed by all thesr spring and bullshit upgrades though. They're 500-600 new, don't pay that for a used one.

>>31456451
Legitimate advice with the 92FS. It's good if you have gigantic ogre hands.

>>31456451
because the market is mature and literally full of decent 9mm pistols
at this point, if you're buying from reputable companies, the best handgun for a man is almost entirely subjective

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They're combat handguns and fantastic at that, a DA/SA platform for a competition gun might not be the best idea because of the heavy to light trigger transition, but it can be done with practice

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>>31456847
Not true. People who have normal sized hands including woman can shoot a 92 just fine

>>31456795
>500-600 new
FUCKING WHERE

>>31457021
Not going to do all the research. But here's the middle ground.

https://www.classicfirearms.com/beretta-92fs-police-special-9mm-3-mags-ukj9f630

>>31456451

spotted the noguns

>>31456451
>>31456257
Don't listen to these idiots.
92fs' are comfy as fuck and fun to shoot.

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>>31457222
92fs are comfy and easy to shoot
but PX4 are even better 2bh, as long as you don't care how pretty the gun is

I have tiny babby hands and I like the 92 for target shooting. I don't know if I'd use it for comp though, or for self defense, since the safety is a bit awkward.

>>31456194
>for competition
Ask Ernest Langdon or Ben Stoeger.
>target shooting
Definitely. Large metal frame really soaks up a lot of recoil. Very smooth and easy to shoot family of pistols.

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Can someone tell me what this is for?

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>>31457796
its a shim for certain models of the gun

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>>31457839
Please excuse the ignorance but what does it do? I have a 92F I just installed hogue grips and it came with the shim

>>31457968
its a spacer it just fills in the gap
you do not have an early model 92f
you dont need it and can throw it away

>>31457248
True, true, I myself prefer A E S T H E T I C as well

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>>31458014
How can u tell? It says 92F on the slide

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Who RE here?

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>>31458092
I'm always in the Beretta threads. ;)

>>31458067
Have you tried reading the instructions? Do you have a gap under the left panel where a frame safety would of been?

I've got a dumb ass question for the 92 owning population.

How the fuck am I supposed to run the slide? The big, stupid ass slide mounted safety seems to get in the way no matter what I do.

>READ MANUAL BEFORE USE
cuckaroo

>>31458167
No it doesn't.

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>>31458167
hold here

>>31458167
You could grab the fucking safety and use it as cocking wings and still not engage the goddamn thing. Stop lying, faggot.

>>31458127
And I always hate you because of that sexy slide work

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>>31458014
Well it definitely looks a little different than the 92fs frame that was posted above

>>31458236
You're good. It just looks different because they have different hammer pins.

Answer an idiot please, is the Px4 the next evolution of the Beretta handgun market or is it for a different purpose than the 92?

>>31458258
Thank you

>>31458236
if you think its different install the shim and see if the grip still fits
if it fits great
if it doesn't toss it

>>31458320
I wouldn't say it's the next evolution, no. The rotating barrel prevents the use of most suppressors, and Beretta is still highly invested in the 92 platform. Not to mention they're coming out the APX eventually. Still, it's a neat pistol that's reliable and, in my opinion, quite sexy. But that's Beretta for you.

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>>31458191
I usually use the ramps at the muzzle. Im going to nd into my hand someday

>>31458364
Yeah, that's a stupid idea.

>>31458357
Thanks.

I'm actually thinking about trying out a Beretta next to a CZ and an H&K. Want something that's rated for +P+ rounds, was going to try out something 92 series for Beretta. Not sure what to compare it to on the H&K and the CZ side though.

>>31458399
Probably a Beretta 92, a CZ-75, and I guess a USP in 9mm.

>>31458452
I was thinking the USP but everytime I looked up +P+ for H&K I kept getting the VP9.

Plus CZ has a million different variations of both the CZ-75 and 85 so I have no idea what I was getting into.

>>31458485
>>31458399
USP is the only gun that factory/manual advertises being rated for +P+ rounds.

I own 3 USPs and 3 Berettas. The Berettas feel a lot smoother and more polished overall, most people I think will enjoy shooting them more, but the USPs are just plain tanks that don't quit.

>>31458127
How much did this setup cost?

Did you just buy a stock one and customize it yourself? Have a gunsmith do it?

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>>31460223
The entire thing cost me about $2000, but you could theoretically lower that price by about $500 if you went about it the right way.

I started off by buying a Beretta 92 Brigadier. I then decided I wanted to make a Samurai Edge, so I found a used but good Beretta 92F with the straight dust cover. I sent the slide away to a shop to get the engravings and serrations added. I ordered a Wolff trigger conversion unit, SS guide rod, and hammer spring kit and installed those myself. Then I ordered a match target barrel from Bar-sto and had that fitted by a gunsmith. The grips are from DSGrips.com

So I was left over with a Beretta 92FS, essentially. I could sell the thing to try to make some money back, but I like Berettas a lot, so for now I've kept it. Pic is related.

>>31460366
Well its very cool friend. Seems entirely worth it to me.

>>31458127
1st gunz here and now I regret not saving my money for some kind of 'nonsense' like this holy shit that is awesome.

>>31458515
+p+ is not an actual valid SAAMI designation - it doesn't have a set max pressure, simply "more than +p". that +p+ rating is a marketing gimmick.

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>>31460453
>>31460456
Thanks, friends.

>>31460366
How do u like that wolf trigger conversion? I've heard mixed reviews.

Can I pay to convert a beretta 92 m9a1 to SAO?

Is it possible to pay for that to be done? I want to train with mine for competition use. I prefer SAO though.

>>31460597
It's pretty nice. It combined with a lighter hammer spring really makes a lot smoother double action pull.

>>31456917

Is that a compensator? I want to build something like this, vaguely robocop inspired.

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>>31456194
yes buy it

>>31460772
C'mon man. You couldn't have cut the paper, rather than rip it? That looks terrible. Also, that inlaying looks shitty, too.

I like the concept, but the execution is flawed as fuck.

>>31458399
CZ P-01 has a design requirement from the Czech Police to be able to run 15,000 +P rounds over it's lifetime. Also has NATO approval. I have about 3k through mine, and it shoots so nice my pops literally went to the store and bought one two days after shooting mine.

>>31460806
it was the first run after i did some final fitting then my printer broke and im looking into another set of clear grips for another pistol too so im just going to exacto both pairs at the same time

its an ongoing project

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>>31460683
We are both talking about this right? I heard it also gets rid of reliability issues with the factory spring.

>>31460847
Yeah, that. There really isn't anything wrong with a factory spring, but it can fail after a lot of wear. The TCU is really easy to install and basically can't fail. It's cheap, to boot. I think it makes the double action pull smoother. With the factory spring, there can sometimes be slight hangups. So what I was trying to say is when you combine the TCU and a new, lighter hammer spring, it really cleans up the double action.

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>>31460722
Yes

>>31456917
>a DA/SA platform for a competition gun might not be the best idea because of the heavy to light trigger transition
Literally never occurs unless you want it to. Chambering sets it to SA, and you can always cock the hammer yourself, even with the gun on safe.

>>31458320
Yes. If you have a choice between the two, there's no reason to go with the 92 aside from the magazines.

Source: I own both.

>>31460878
how does the wolf spring effect the Single action?

>>31460998
Certain competitions won't let you start on single action if you're using a da/sa weapon

>>31460998
It only sets it to SA if it's already off safe, keep in mind. If you have it on safe and chamber a round it automatically decocks the hammer.

I'm not sure what the rules for comp are exactly.

>>31461020
The single action on the 92 is already very light and crisp. I can tell that it's even lighter yet, but in all honesty its most noticeable in DA.

>>31456662

Ben Stegger won Production Nationals with a Beretta.

he shoots a Tanfo Stock II now, though.

>>31461067

for USPSA, a DA/SA gun in Production (the class that makes most sense for you to shoot a Beretta in) requires that the gun is "fully decocked using the decocker" or something like that. i think safeties always have to be engaged too.

where that gets interesting is with the CZ/Tanfos since they're DA/SA but most don't have decockers. better hope that half cock notch works good.

Berettas are fucking boring

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>>31461423
Then don't get one you cock sucking bitch

>>31461423
Fuck you. Get the fuck out.

>>31461461
>61461 ▶
>>>31461423 (You)
>Fuck you. Get the fuck out.


no

fuck you nigga

>>31460772
did you screw her vagina?

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>>31458167
>>31458191

This. How can you not figure this out, it's specifically textured for that reason.

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>>31457248
>mfw no px4 rosewood grips
They should have added interchangeable grips for the px4. Poor business decision to never include this for polymer framed pistols, not just Beretta's.

FAT GUN IS FAT

Fatter than USP. And that is a fat gun

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>>31457248
>px4 even better

>>31462472
That would look terrible. The two tone FDE and black Px4 is sexy, though.

>>31462504
it is. I love my 92, but it's the height of 30's technology in a slightly updated circa 70's package.
The PX4 just feels better and requires less care. And it should, considering the advances in materials between now and then.
The 92 is my sexy range queen. The PX4 is an ugly shooter.

>>31462537
Nah, it's 70's tech through and through despite the locking block

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Best pistol

>>31462537
>PX4
>magazine disconnect safety
NAH IM GOOD

>>31461423
fuck off Umbrella

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>>31462684
>PX4
>magazine disconnect safety
i don't know if you're misinformed on whether the pistol has one, or if you just straight up don't know what a mag disconnect safety is.
You know why the gun has "FIRES WITHOUT MAGAZINE" stamped in big letters on the frame, right?

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>>31458127
>>31458092
My motherfucking brothers.

>>31463333
WESKER?!

>>31463363
"CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSS"
yes

>>31463333
>wesker quads

>>31456194
What's everyone's opinion on the Brigadier?

>>31458167
The safety essentially acts as cocking wings, I always make a point to grab it. You have to do some awkward manipulations to actually engage it from racking the slide. This is coming from someone who avoided guns with slide safeties for the longest time.

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>>31458172
this desu famalam.

>>31458167
>he racks his gun with two hands like a girl


Use the rear sight to catch your belt and push down on the grip like a man.

>>31461423
t. Glockfag

>>31462227
Shooting through the hostage, interesting strategy...

>>31463926
Oh, I thought it was two fags cuddling.

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>>31458320
Evolution? Not neccesarily. Think of the Compact and Subcompact as M9's for conceal carry if you will.

Though they have strinkingly similar features like the safety/decocker and ergonomics. Hell, you can actually turn it into a G model by taking two pieces out of the slide unlike having to spend $150 to get WC to do it for you with an M92.

As for answering your question straight to the point, it's actually an evolution of the Cougar.

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Question

>Can you buy a Brigadier slide by itself?

>>31456194
yes, I love the fuck out of mine. recoil is extremely mild and comfy to shoot. Accurate as hell too

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>>31462472
Why get wood when you can roll with 24k gold?

$$$$$

>>31461057

Only competitions where you have to have a DA/SA pistol.

For example, service pistol.

However there's no need in open IPSC to have hammer de-cocked if you have one.

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>>31464241
Anybody?

>>31464241
>>31464359
the only way you'll find one is if someone is parting out a gun.

>>31462120
Underrated post

>>31464776
Fuck, that sucks ass

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>>31464320
Gold and black, looks pretty decent actually.

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>>31456194
Picked mine up back on the 21st...ordered it on the 7th. Yea Arms Unlimited may be cheap but damn they take forever getting their orders out. Anyway though its an M9 with three mags. I've got about 150 rounds through it at this point and I like it so far.

>>31456194
They're gr8 m8.

>>31456257
Ignore this person.

>>31464241
You can try the Beretta forums, but the ones that do get posted every...I dunno 2 years or so? They get snatched up instantaneously.

>>31456451
That matters a shitload you pillock, how it feels in your hand, if you can easily and comfortably use the controls without shifting your grip.

>>31463718
They look sexy and allows for you to shoot higher pressure ammo.