One last final nuke thread.

Why one last final?

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>>31445287
>last final
something you wanna share with the class?

are kinetic weapons dropped from space going to replace nukes?

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>>31445287
hey Opp, you recommended pic related in a thread way back and I loved it, great read!

>>31445307
>>31445317
I don't know, but I'm going to start digging just in case.

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>One last final nuke thread

>>31445307
>>31445317

The places where I come up in conversation in /k/ is disconcerting. Lots of sentiments that are uncomfortable to read.

Just feels like the name has overshadowed the topic. I always just wanted to be known as a source of information, but now it's become polarizing. Lots of posters are on two extremes. One hand, I am a pompous ass, stomping on board culture with a trip, and on the other side, I can do no wrong, and should be revered.
Both of these are uncomfortable.
I just like to talk about nuclear weapons with people who are interested in them. Being "Oppenheimer" is now interfering with that.

>>31445354
No.

>>31445375
You should see the Documentary. Amazing.

>>31445391
Just post as Anon.

Really, tripcodes are fine if you're a subject matter expert in a particular topic, like Boof or Johnny.

>tfw Johnny died

>>31445375
Here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXPrJcFmqKg

>>31445410
>Just post as Anon.
I will.

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>>31445416
awesome, thanks! after reading that book I can't believe there has never been an accidental detonation, holy fuck

>>31445434
Dumb question, were you here early enough to see Salesman threads?

>>31445391

Were there ever any attempts at a pure uranium implosion fusion type device.

I know there were things like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Club

but did anybody ever try to scale it to thermonuclear fusion?

any reason it couldn't work.

Using something like a smaller version of violet club as the primary and a standard layered uranium secondary?

...basically what i'm trying to ask is has anyone made fusion weapons without plutonium?

>>31445391
it's too bad those guys can't live with being wrong and having someone knowledgeable to tell them so. Glad you'll still be around, though.
I'll keep on jumping down people's throats when they say the words 'Nuclear Winter', though, just like old times

>>31445444
>Salesman thread
Yes. I have been here since around 06 or so.

>>31445447
>has anyone made fusion weapons without plutonium?
No. Would be pretty massive. When you are trying to launch something on the tip of a missile, every ounce counts.

>>31445454
>it's too bad those guys can't live with being wrong
Some people identify their opinions with who they are as a person.
I probably could have been more tactful at times, and might not have ruffled some feathers.

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>>31445287
What are your top 3 books you recommend for normal people to learn about your field?

Thanks for providing such solid info through the years Oppen. Haven't participated in one of your threads in quite a while but I've always loved reading about what you've learned and dumping my questions on you. Hope you still pop in once in a while to clear up misconceptions.
While I have the chance to ask, what direction do you foresee the U.S. nuclear arsenal heading in the coming decades as well as the Chinese? Do you think China will focus more on their SLBM fleet or their ICBMs?

>>31445490
One of the main reasons I enjoyed reading posts were how you somehow always managed to keep cool and respond politely, even to the dumbest shit. Gonna miss your trip, bud

>>31445391

Oh, you were listening to the retards in the horrible meta thread(s). You really shouldn't take much heed from them (being a vocal minority and all), they're a cancer within themselves. I'm sure there's one dude who pretends to be retarded when to/about you for the sake of replies.

Anyway, understand the tiresomeness that comes with /k/. I'm one of the few British posters and a good chunk of /k/ is extremely unsympathetic to my fellow countrymen and my own position when it comes to our county's firearm laws. That and the Queen Elizabeth carrier threads. Very, very tiring when nothing much ever changing despite how I tried to educate people.

Keep the faith and all that.

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Now for my actual question, what implication for US/CN that Russian SSBNs will have an easier time getting through the North Pole ice sheets?

>>31445287
So ummm, India and Pakistan, how worried should I be?

>>31445515
On Limited Nuclear War in the 21st Century by Jeffrey Larsen and Kerry Kartchner
Paper Tigers: Paper Tigers: China's Nuclear Posture by Jeffrey Lewis
Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces by Pavel Podvig

>>31445515
>direction do you foresee the U.S. nuclear arsenal heading in the coming decades as well as the Chinese? Do you think China will focus more on their SLBM fleet or their ICBMs?
The US will reduce ICBM forces by a few hundred and rely more on SLBMs. The new cruise missile will be DOA. B61-12 will enter service.
New common warhead based on W88 will enter service with new ICBM and SLBM.

Deployed Warheads will drop to 750 around 2025 or so.


China will remove the DF-5 and deploy more mobile launchers, some with MIRV buses. SSBN procurement will plod along.


>>31445564
>what implication for US/CN that Russian SSBNs will have an easier time getting through the North Pole ice sheets?
Nothing really. Soviets considered the arctic as a bastion in the 1980s. The US subs were ready for under ice operations (hence the lack of planes on 688 class sails)

>>31445575
>India and Pakistan,
Worry more about Pakistan losing a weapon.
Or KSA announcing they have a few.

>>31445643
>Or KSA announcing they have a few.
what motive would they have for announcing something like this?

>>31445671
In response to Iranian nuclear advancements, real or imagined. There was a reason the KSA purchased those DF-3s from China in the 1980's.

>>31445643
>The new cruise missile will be DOA.
Why do they need a brand new design instead of a stretched JASSM (call it a JASSM-ER-ER) with a W80 warhead?

>>31445847
To have room for the EW gadgets they want to put in it. Not sure if the JASSM has the room for the systems, power supply and cooling.

>>31445689
>Iranian nuclear advancements, real or imagined.
Speaking of, what is their current status? What about in 5 years? 10?

>>31445643
Do you think GBSD make it? Are we ever going to be rid of the MMIIIs in a way that's not unilateral disarmament?

>>31445287
Does the SM-3 Block IIA have a real capability against ICBMs? Doesn't seem like the US takes it seriously, but this blog argues the Russian and Chinese do.

https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2016/06/30/strategic-capabilities-of-sm-3-block-iia-interceptors-june-30-2016/

>>31445391
Thank you for what you've done, these threads were always the most interesting. Didn't see the last one, guess that's what I'm going to next.

>>31445287
Loved your first thread. Will post in your last.

Thanks oppen.

One thing I have heard several times is that the Russians are concerned that US ABMs could be easily repurposed as MRBMs for rapid strikes against Russia.

This strikes me as unrealistic, but have you heard any research into using ABMs in a ground to ground role?

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>>31446503
Older style ABMs that were basically high performance nuclear tipped SAMs, sure, you could come up with a surface to surface mode.

But with SM-3 (and GBI) you're dealing with a kinetic kill vehicle that 1. Couldn't survice re-entry since it has no RV and 2. Couldn't kill anything even if it could. So you'd need to completely replace the upper stage.

You're a goddamn scholar and a muthafuckin gentleman.

I'll miss you man.

what kind of hash is that?

When will the USA and Russia start working on upgrading nuke arsenals together, to counter threats from space like meteorites?

>>31445490
>>Salesman thread
>Yes. I have been here since around 06 or so.
i fuckin forgot about salesman. Anyone got the caps?

Or can anyone recap rather? because I've forgotten what happened to him at this point

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>>31445287
I feel like every oppenheimer thread is the last oppenheimer thread, it's a mongolian water knitting board on a sumo wrestling strategy site chill out.

Also do you know if nuclear artillery shells are issued to artillery units, or are they usually delivered at the time of use?

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>>31445287
Hey man please don't leave. We don't all worship you or hate you. It's hyperbole and posturing on both sides of the fence. The best of us respect you, the worst of us hate everyone. Don't let it bother you

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>>31445287

>>31445391
And now you realize why all trips eventually die.

Two kinds of trips exist, first is those who post with good intentions, not to gain any kind of following, but to trip as the function is meant, an identifier that associates with a particular piece of knowledge / opinion / etc for a short term. These trips either run their course naturally, or continue on as long as they can until they learn the autistic cancer that is inherently 4chan will dox them, idolize, hate, love, seek to destroy and seek to lift up to cult leader status, whether they like it or not, for any number of reasons, from wanting some lulz, to truly having a personal invested interest. Anonymity shows humans for what they are, unstable, trips will return to the fold or be destroyed in the process.

The second kind of trip is the one we all know well, attention whores, narcissists, as mentally unstable as anon and either in a deep denial about how people feel about them, or simply don't care as they revel in the extreme negative attention. These trips destroy themselves, at their core mental level, they were never meant to last because they aren't stable enough to last.

Regardless, good to see you return to the fold. Stay there.

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>>31445391
Ignore them. Continue to provide content and topics for intelligent conversation.

Having an identity that people can direct questions to and tie to said content is nothing to be ashamed of.

That being said...

Are you aware of any existing or near future nuclear technology that could be used with a platform as small as the Raytheon Pike?

I would assume the size of it would hinder the amount of fuel carried and create a yield that wouldn't even be worth it.

>>31445391
Ignore them, keep posting.

It's literally just one guy that's rectal ravaged that you BTFO of him so many times.

>>31447569
There's a minimum critical mass for a nuclear device.

It's somewhere in the 50-100 pound range, if I recall.

>>31447599
Is that weight dependent on type of fuel?

If so, what fuel requires the least amount before reaching critical?

>>31445287
Will we ever do underground nuclear tests again?

>>31447670
I'm guessing we do, just people don't know about it

>>31445287
Oppenheimer, did the plowhare project had as an objective scientific measurements and heavy element creation as its objective and then later, after the partial nuke ban focussed more on using nukes for excavation?

Also, will we ever see something like the plowshare again?

>>31447670

I read somewhere that we use supercomputer simulations for nuke "testing", could be wrong though tbqh

>>31445354
Stop playing cod

>>31447653
I've done some digging.

Apparently the theoretical minimum is 10kg for plutonium, but the smallest that anyone has made in reality is the warheads for the Davy Crockett.

>>31447706
all forms of nuclear testing have been shutdown since 1992 due to a moratorium on testing. Though the president could rescind it.

>>31447781
That's what I'm saying.

Let's say we can make a device small enough to fit into >>31447569 and say it has a yield that's a quarter that of the Davey Crockett.

Keep in mind the Pike was designed to be fired from an M203. Would a guided warhead with such a yield and platform have any use in combat?

>>31447822
Well, 10kg is a lot.

That's 22 pounds just for the high explosive filling, without any of the casing, fuses, or the device to actually start the nuclear chain reaction.

Also, nuclear warheads are capped at like 1000 for both the US and Russia by the START treaty.

If you're going to break the nuclear taboo, you may as well go big.

>>31446186
>Are we ever going to be rid of the MMIIIs in a way that's not unilateral disarmament?
Yes.

>>31446503
>but have you heard any research into using ABMs in a ground to ground role?
No.

>>31447233
>Also do you know if nuclear artillery shells are issued to artillery units, or are they usually delivered at the time of use?
The US no longer has them.

>>31447569
>Are you aware of any existing or near future nuclear technology that could be used with a platform as small as the Raytheon Pike?
>I would assume the size of it would hinder the amount of fuel carried and create a yield that wouldn't even be worth it.
I am not. I doubt you could get a critical mass.

>>31447670
One day.

>>31447706
We do not.

>>31447725
>Also, will we ever see something like the plowshare again?
Probably not.

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>>31447233
Not Oppen, but I assume no one plans to use/has nuclear-based artillery/tactical nukes anymore, due to the toxic effects of radiation (esp considering tact. nukes are rather "dirty") on allied troops and the sheer destructive nature of the devices seems to have fallen out of graces with modern warplanners.


>>31445391
Oppen, I will miss you. I stumbled on these threads a few years ago and it really had an effect on me as far as what I want to focus in career-wise with my degree . At any rate, it was nice having a SME in one of the most obscure and speculated of topics on here, and one willing for us to shoot the shit with.
Take care of yourself and know that we'll be here for ya.

>>31447847
>Also, nuclear warheads are capped at like 1000 for both the US and Russia by the START treaty.
No they aren't. New START caps warheads (technically not even nuclear warheads) at 1550, but only those deployed on ICBMs or SLBMs, as well as counting nuclear bombers as one warhead each. It has no effect on any other type of nuclear warhead.

>>31448198
I see.

Still, I really wouldn't want to use nuclear small arms.

There's security issues, deployment issues, and "oh shit we're within radiation range" issues.

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>>31445490
>tfw I've been here longer than based Oppenheimer.
>yfw you realize that you've been here for a long ass fucking time

Where has my life gone?

>>31445287

I realise that you've covered this topic in previous threads, but I hope you don't mind going over it again. I remember you mentioning in previous threads that there's no such thing as a "nuclear winter" and a nuclear exchange wouldn't provoke global ecological failure. Am I remembering that right, and could you please go into more detail about the mechanics of it?

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>>31448648
>I remember you mentioning in previous threads that there's no such thing as a "nuclear winter" and a nuclear exchange wouldn't provoke global ecological failure. Am I remembering that right, and could you please go into more detail about the mechanics of it?

Nuclear Winter is possible, its just never been proven to be a likely result of a real nuclear exchange. Both sides would have to cooperate to cause a nuclear winter.

The reasons these studies fail to prove their case is because they all fail to account for the following issues.

1) In the studies, you have one warhead assigned to an urban area, detonated at an altitude designed to maximize thermal effects.

The reality is that the most likely targets in a first strike will be the strategic forces of your opponent. These are located, for the most part far from urban areas.

In addition, even those targets that are in urban areas are not targeted to maximize thermal effects, but rather blast effects.

Also, most targets will get multiple warheads aimed at them. So if you have 100 warheads, that not 100 targets.

2) Thermal effects are magnified based on improper interpretations of Hiroshima. Post war testing showed that materials will char and smoke due to the thermal effects, with actually attenuates the effect as more smoke and charring occurs. See pic related. The smoke is shielding the building.

3) The studies fail to account for modern building materials and codes in place in much of the world.

All this adds up to show that firestorms are possible, but unlikely, and if you don't have widespread firestorms, you wont have nuclear winter.

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in case you just missed them when they were posted and they weren't in fact too hot to comment on for you, any opinion on these?
1/4

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>>31448823
2/4

>>31448378
Dont forget, youre here forever.

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>>31448840
3/4

>>31448378
been on 4chan since 2005

the internet on its current form, hell even meatspace society is like a fucking episode of the twilight zone

>>31445391
Ah man, you're like the 2nd only reason I even check up on /k/. Gonna keep your throwaway email up?

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>>31448856
4/4

>>31448861
>Gonna keep your throwaway email up?
yes

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>>31445391
>tfw the autists finally drove Oppenheimer off
S-see you, space cowboy...

>>31445287
I thought that was hash

>>31449038
You were not alone.

Welp, I suppose you're not gonna switch up your policy on commenting on really touchy stuff in the future when you're posting as anon.

Right, Oppenheimer?

>>31449059
Thanks for the thread by the way, reminds me of why I started browsong back on 2010. For the sharing of knowledge and informative threads. Not race-baiting memes, /pol/itik, idiocy, and general vitriol it is now.

Can you just be Oppen on a tumblr, occasionally posting neat bits of nuclear policy and the like?

Hey Oppenheimer,

A couple questions:

1. How bad/unstable would the global geopolitical situation have to get for nuclear war to be a possibility?

2. Lets say a first world country used a small amount (<5) of nuclear warheads against strategic targets. How would the rest of the world react?

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if this is really goodbye oppenheimer.
i just want to let you know alot of us will miss you and your threads.
hopefully one day itll be like old times.

>>31448888
Wait, you have a throwaway? What's if for/would you mind sharing it?

Love ya Opp. I'll miss the discussion.

Don't give in to the trolls

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>>31445391
Certain I'm not alone when I say you're probably the best, most humble trip.

Also wanna say you shouldn't take any of this 4chan shit too seriously, it's just the internet after all. I'm glad you'll stick around, anon or not, and most importantly: thanks for all the insightful contributions over the years :)

>>31449226
>1. How bad/unstable would the global geopolitical situation have to get for nuclear war to be a possibility?
Very very bad.
>2. Lets say a first world country used a small amount (<5) of nuclear warheads against strategic targets. How would the rest of the world react?
With horror and outcry for the attacker to be disarmed.
Assuming that the attack is not justified.

>>31449362
[email protected]

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>>31448856
fucking savage

>>31449598
I dont take it seriously. Thats why I feel ok dropping the trip.

Well, im headed to bed /k/.

If the thread is still up in the am, ill be back in it. If not, ill see yall around as anon.

>>31449713
Ave nex alea, Oppenheimer

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>>31449719
It's gay over involved shit like that that chased him away you faggot. I think we're all getting too sucked in to this. OPpenheimer is right. It needs to chill out

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>>31445391

Don't leave us.

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>>31449713
Goodnight, sweet prince.

>>31445287
nuclear fallout will emit dangerous levels of gamma radiation, weeks and potentially months after a nuclear attack right?

>>31445434

Well, thanks for your continued presence.

I stayed out of most of the threads but I did enjoy what was posted. Lots of questions and answers.

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>>31445287
Oppenheimer, I know you're more of a nukes guy, but what do you think about the decision of the Truman administration, particularly Harry and his generals, to focus on nukes as opposed to conventional forces before getting tangled in the Korean war? It's been the focus of one of my professors lectures lately, and I'm having a little hard time believing anyone in America ever though we could do away with the Navy or the Army in practical terms just cause we could nuke everyone with the resources of the Air Force.

>>31447822

IIRC during the initial testing of the W54 wahead, there were tests of literal Fallout-style Fat Man launchers that had really really low sub-kiloton yields, like only several tons worth of TNT. I'm guessing these shoulder launched prototypes were the smallest weapons ever developed and they were retardedly inefficient, which I'm pretty sure was the main reason the tests never went further. So I seriously doubt you could fit a functioning warhead into such a small projectile, especially considering that even if it only had a .5-2 ton yield, you would still probably end up blowing your own face off because of range limitations for a warhead that heavy in such a small projectile.

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>>31445287
you'll be missed

>>31450403
>mfw I triggered this assraping

>>31445287
What do you think about Sandia National Labs? I have an opportunity to work there and want to know if I should jump on it or wait for other offers.

>>31450545
not Opp but Sandia's great. Albuquerque is about as big as a city gets without turning into a total shithole (although it's kinda fucked up).
Work on cutting edge shit in the daytime at Sandia, go eat drunken green chile cheeseburgers at the Frontier at night.

>>31450625
I won't be out there till the summer if I go, but it would be nice to know some people prior. Have/do you work there?

I really like how close it is to the mountains, not sure what you can do out there but looks fun for camping/shooting

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>>31450701
Lived in Albuquerque for a while, while in college. Through my physics program I knew some low level folks at Sandia. They got worked pretty hard, but seemed to enjoy what they were doing. Sandia has some overlap with Los Alamos when it comes to sekrit shit, though from what I understand Sandia works with applications of nuclear energy (reactor design, plasma, etc) while Los Alamos works on nukes.

The mountains are great. Always found it neat how you could just walk out of a city park in a neighborhood into the Sandias. One day hike I remember being especially good was the Domingo Baca trail, where you end up at the crash site of TWA 260. They just left most of a plane on the mountainside. If you ever end up there, even to check the job out, it's worth a good 10 hours.

Albuquerque has good food and good places to get drunk, but not much more. I don't know if there's some inbreeding or fetal alcohol syndrome or what, but some of the dumbest people I've ever met lived there. Beautiful place, though.

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>>31449713
Don't forget, you're here forever....

>>31450784
Gotcha, I'm excited to see what I can work on.

That looks awesome, I will definitely head up there.

I mean, my impressions all come from Breaking Bad and that seems accurate haha.

>>31449713
let it RIP

>>31449713
Hoping you see this. Thanks for the /k/nowledge. I completely understand your decision to post as anon hereafter. Good luck.

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>>31445287
Just wanted to say I've enjoyed your threads.

>>31445287
>trinitite
Can you just go to the test range? Do you need permission? What is the radiation level down to seventy odd years later?
Do you need to be careful with the sample you have?

I've enjoyed your shit man. From an ORNL guy, thanks for the good shit. You took the role I tried to have at one point. Glad it's been you rather than me. You've laid some good knowledge. See you, space cowboy.

>>31450625
Frontier confirmed as based

>>31450050
Dangerous to our standards? Yes. But post attack, it might be acceptable.

>>31450325
At the time, we were still trying to understand what we had. We were treating it as just another weapon. As people began to follow through the thinking on what would happen, it became clear that these things were different.
Its not fair to judge them based on what we know, but rather you have to judge them on what they knew.

>>31450545
Love going there. Whole city is wonderful.

>>31452082
>Can you just go to the test range?
Me? No.

>Do you need permission?
Yes.
They do give tours a few times a year.


>What is the radiation level down to seventy odd years later?
Insignificant.
>Do you need to be careful with the sample you have?
I shouldnt eat it.

>>31452084
>ORNL
Are you a madman like some of your coworkers? ;)

>>31447569
boof when is ian coming over to review your bullpup boltgun
(the name escapes me)

>>31447744
> I read somewhere that we use supercomputer simulations for nuke "testing", could be wrong though tbqh

Protip. national ignition facility has nothing to do with energy production research

>>31453535
>Love going there. Whole city is wonderful.
Good to here from a few people, debating on waiting on lockheed and northrop to get back to me or to just accept the offer.

>>31453535
>he doesn't eat his samples

Psh, another /k/ommando did and he turned out, well.

We don't know how he turned out honestly.

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>>31448378
The ride never ends anon

>>31453535
do you think the bombs dropped on japan were justified? And do you ever see them used again?

How accurate is this?

https://youtu.be/9GJttnC8PoA

What is North Korea's endgame for their nuclear development? Deter invasion from the U S and south indefinitely? I'd like to think someone high up in their government knows how precarious their position as a society is economically.

What would be the global response to an India-Pakistan nuclear exchange? Just sit back and let them duke it out, or somehow try to intervene?

What capabilities do Russia and the US have to monitor the transport globally of fissile material? If we can track its movement is there some weight of material too small to track, but still significant for weapons development if there were repeated shipments of that size?

Is there any hope of disarmament?

Has MAD mired us in an endless string of proxy wars?

>>31454449
Some say he still walks the zone, eating anything shiny to try and break the curse.

>>31454650
Yes and yes.

>>31454666
Ill get back to you.

>>31454805
Regime survival.

>>31454832
They would try to stop it, and in the aftermath move in to perform recovery operations, and recover any unused weapons.

>>31454907
Nope.

>>31454923
Endless? No.

>>31455045
o7 you beautiful bastard.
I hope you don't mind me archiving this thread for historical purposes

>>31455045
ty based opp. see you in space

op switch to deffcon or armored warfare chat board we cant lose you...

Thanks Oppenheimer, your posts have always been an interesting read. It'll be a shame to lose you, take care out there. And my question:

Are there any good books which go into nuclear terrorism that you could recommend?

>>31455045

Your last answer is ominous as fuck.

Where can I watch Command and Control?

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This was probably answered in an older thread but, can "Nuclear Manhole Covers" be weaponized?

>>31447781
are we talking about total weapon mass? Because the key in minimizing weight(and size) is maximizing fuel mass such that implosion hardware is minimized

>>31455146
Where?

>>31448858
Can you imagine trying to explain gender politics and safe spaces to your 2005 self?

>>31448840
I think this picture is false. It also depicts a W-80 warhead but also implies that the spherical section is actually the PRIMARY and not the SECONDARY, even when picture 1/4 clearly states the cylindrical component is the primary(5-30 kt boosted warhead by itself yada yada.) Picture 1/4 even has two firing set detonator cables running into it, which is congruent with the prolate two-point hollow lens initiation design. Maybe 2/4 is a separate design, but you can clearly tell that 1/4 is a W-80 mod 0. What gives, OP?

>>31455322
The Ruskies might've dreamed it, but the DECADENT AMERICAN CAPITALIST PIG-DOGS actually did it.

Albeit on a very small scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob#Propulsion_of_steel_plate_cap

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>>31455045
Opp, the first "design picture" you posted scares me because it implies that on a w-80 warhead, the spherical component is the primary and NOT the secondary, like I have been theorizing for so many years. Is this drawing not more accurate(even if thicknesses are not to scale)?

>>31455322
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob#Propulsion_of_steel_plate_cap

Possibly

>During the Pascal-B nuclear test, a 900-kilogram (2,000 lb) steel plate cap (a piece of armor plate) was blasted off the top of a test shaft at a speed of more than 66 kilometres per second (41 mi/s).

>>31455492

Holy christ, 41 mi/s...that's getting close to relativistic significance.

>>31455726
>0.022%

umm... no.

>>31455771
Math rekt

Thanks for answering all my stupid questions as best you could to make me understand. come back in better times.

>>31455649
You've been 'theorizing' for many years? Such a dedicated neckbeard you are

>>31455235
>Are there any good books which go into nuclear terrorism that you could recommend?

Yes, coincidentally, just finished reading one.

Nuclear Proliferation and Terrorism in the Post-9/11 World by David Hafemeister

>>31455286
PBS

>>31455649
>"design picture" you posted
I didnt post any design picture, and can't comment on them either way.

>>31457483
What's your favorite kind of nuclear reactor and why it is pebble bed?

>>31456457
http://www.google.ch/patents/US4860654

>>31445391
As the anon who originally made the.gif with zergface and the nuclear explosion, at the time i figured it was a funny use of the meme.

Ill be sad to see you go, but thank you for the knowledge you've shared in your time here.

>>31458344
I thought that gif was damn funny.

>>31455431
"A bunch of communists turned political correctness and feminism into backdoor censorship and socialism." It's pretty simple to explain once you know what's actually happening.

>>31458516
it was pretty obvious back then, not like it's a new thing. Happening since the 80's

>>31458468
Thank you

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>>31451714

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What did you think of the video I linked you? For anyone who missed it, it's made by the guy who made Threads, but two years earlier and is more of a documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJttnC8PoA

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>>31458344
You made this??

I heard FOGBANK tastes delicious.

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>>31458468
Which nuclear detonation was your favorite? Whether chosen aesthetically or otherwise

>>31459220
Yes, though i realize i have no way of proving it.

>>31459534
Lurking to see if this actually works.

>>31460447
What do you mean?

>>31459534
What is this?

>>31460539
It's the codename for some kind of nuclear material.

Supposedly if somebody says it in a thread, Oppenheimer has to leave because security clearance.

Would you pay money to see an above ground nuclear test in Navada?
If you were allowed to place something within the weapon's area of effect, what would it be?

>>31460575
>Oppenheimer has to leave because security clearance.
Why the fuck would you do that?

>>31460598
I believe he simply cannot comment on its details, like the above diagrams someone posted.

That said, its deliciousness may or may not be classified.

What is your opinion of Galen Winsor?

Check out some of his vids, like "Galen Winsor - The Grand Nuclear Hoax" on youtube

>>31458516

Fascists come to power, their favored class is gay,brown,non-christians.

They sell fascism to young American pieces of trash by saying they're protecting the "rights" of their favored class.

Hey Oppenheimer, shoot us radiofags an email when you get a chance, we'd like to stay in contact.

>>31460626
>I believe he simply cannot comment on its details,
Incorrect. He cant even acknowledge it exists.

>>31460780
Maybe you should send him an email. In case he lost yours. >>31449603

>>31460808
Good plan, thanks anon.

>>31455649
>Non-thin shell pit
>No slapper plate.

For someone who's supposedly been theorising for many years you don't seem too bright.

>>31445317
In a lot of nuclear test footage, there are always streamers of smoke going up before the bomb itself explodes. What are those and what are they for? Is it related to the test at all or something else?

>>31457483
I was under the impression Eric Schlosser was a bit of a tool the way he keeps going on about how close we supposedly came to an accidental nuclear detonation and the effects of the detonation (didn't he claim it would destroy all of Wisconsin?).

Is he actually any good?

>>31457851
So what? We know two point detonation exists. Doesn't mean it's used on the B61 and derivatives.

is dat sum dank shit

>>31460598
Because he's a shitposter.

That said, I'm pretty certain Oppen just ignores it.

>>31445383
Hahahahah

>>31445391
Oppenheimer, you have been revered as our own and personally I dont want to see you leave. I just hope that you are trolling us here, trying to gauge a reaction out of us.

Modern tanks and APCs have NBC protection right ?? The Soviets built theirs such that they could ride through nuclear wastelands without any problems. So incase of a nuclear strike on a nation - is it possible that the aggressor can be completely beaten out in a land war ??

Is it plausible ? Because I dont buy the - NUKES WILL END EVERYTHING bullshit people seem to spew everywhere.

Stay with us.

>>31460928
Hes not perfect, but hyperbole aside, he sheds light on an event not well known.

>>31460743
>Anti-military
>Anti-police
>Complete disregard for anything resembling traditional values
>Don't even support a mixed-economy
>Supports unions and the high minimum wage
>Extremely anti-corporation despite every fascist state every being in bed with corporations
SJW tumblrites and ""Progressives"" are a LOT of things, but they are not Fascists at all.

>>31448378
because everywhere else tries to cram it's opinion down your throat

you are either left, or wrong and a bad person
that's why you still post here

and because you have no life

>>31460919
Rockets to measure the passage of blast waves.

>>31461062
Not sure what you are asking.

>>31461062
>Because I dont buy the - NUKES WILL END EVERYTHING bullshit people seem to spew everywhere.
It has been a core part of Oppen's that that is horribly wrong.

The long I'd leave for him, but the short of it is: nuclear winter is wrong (as addressed here >>31445643
), and even an all out attack by Russia wouldn't destroy the US or kill most people (including long term and non-direct effects) because nukes would be used against silos and such for the most part.

>>31461288
This does partly answer the question, Thank you. I was looking at the use of nukes in local conflicts - such as DPRK and SK , Iran and Israel (Iran doesnt have nukes as of yet, neither does SK). Can they really stop the 'aggressor' if they struck first with the nukes ?

>>31461158
I was reading into the India and Pakistan situation and things look like a war might break out some day.

Both states are nuclear, both have very high population densities. Assuming a successful first strike by Pakistan on Indian major cities, can a military victory be possible for India ?? Because they too, will be using nukes to retaliate along with their numerically superior land forces to invade Pakistan.

Can the nukes really 'destroy' a nation so that it cannot respond ?

>>31461148
They are only anti-any of those things when it doesn't meet their agenda. The Nazi party was anti military, anti cop, etc unless said military/cop/corporation, etc. supported their beliefs.

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>>31461404
>Can they really stop the 'aggressor' if they struck first with the nukes ?
DPRK in no way can, if for no other reason than a lack of nukes and the means to use them, but also the US's involvement precludes that possibility even if the DPRK managed to somehow stop SK from being able to retaliate.

For Iran/Israel, Israel has and maintains a second strike capability. If Iran managed to completely destroy Israel somehow, Israel would still be able to retaliate with its own nukes.

>Can the nukes really 'destroy' a nation so that it cannot respond ?
I can't think of a single case where that would be true, except maybe with Pakistan which iirc lacks secure second-strike capabilities.

It would be EXTREMELY hard in any circumstance to completely eliminate an opponents ability to respond, just because you can't know where everything is (or in real-time), going to be, and even if you do, nukes aren't as destructive as most people think, so destroying an entire nation's military is going to damned hard.

Hopefully Oppen comes back though and can explain further/better

>>31445391
RIP in peace dude. I've always enjoyed your posts.

>>31461404
>Can they really stop the 'aggressor' if they struck first with the nukes ?
Yes. A first strike can stop the attackers conventional forces. If thats what you are asking.

>>31461404>military victory be possible for India ??
Yes. If the first strike is aimed at population centers, then their military might be largely intact.


>Can the nukes really 'destroy' a nation so that it cannot respond ?
Yes. If deployed properly.

>>31461608
See you around.

>>31460795
Odd, since it's been mentioned on public record many times, and even by officials in house subcommittee meetings and shit.

They don't say much about it, of course, but it is mentioned by name.

The reality of the stuff is probably pretty boring, but it seems so much more interesting when it's wrapped in a cloak of secrecy, as it is.

>>31461779
i think they're not allowed to talk about it because they might accidentally disclose some classified info by even saying they know it exists. like with how nsa workers can't even say they work at the nsa.

>>31458516
>>31460743
>>31461148
>>31461476
>>>/pol/

>>31462026
>"SJWs are awful people, but they aren't Fascists"
>Go back to pol!
Did you even look at the post?

>inb4 any political discussion >>>/pol/
Then you should have included the first post about gender politics

>>31445287
>>31445375

Any other book recommendations? Is there an Oppenheimer-approved reading list anywhere?

>>31460795
sounds retarded since i can just fucking google it and get results about it (and the fact that it exists)

>>31445375
The audiobook of that kept me riveted for a great many drives to work. Amazing stuff.

>>31462585
Things can be out in the open and still be classified.
You can lose your security clearance for going to wikileaks.

Nuclear weapon information is considered Top Secret from the moment it is conceived. Unlike anything else, which must be specifically classified, Nuclear weapon stuff is assumed to be classified the moment it is created. It must be specifically declassified.
Fogbank is one of those things that is not declassified, and so he is not allowed to talk about it.

Understand?

>>31462655
Can you share ?? It has my interest ))

>>31461580
>>31461701
Thats sort of contradictory.

>>31461701
Particularly because most of the machinery that the Indian army fields has NBC protection. Plus apart from causing a lot of deaths by striking civilian population, it wont really affect the army in any way.

Same goes for India, even if they strike all population hubs, the military will largely go unaffected. Because of the numerical superiority, even if Pakistan hits the Indian army, the 2nd Largest land army in the world, it wont really make a dent.

Thoughts ??

Any posters from India, Pakistan who want to comment ?? This is not a dick measuring contest so dont make it into one.

What's the closet anyone here's been to a live nuke? Did you touch it? How many megatons was it?

>>31445391
One last question.
DO you think you will see nuclear war in your lifetime?
>I always just wanted to be known as a source of information, but now it's become polarizing. Lots of posters are on two extremes
And again 4chan eats one of it's own.
While I'm sorry you're killing the trip I completely understand. I dealt with the same kind of grief almost ten years ago on another board.
Thanks for the great threads and always showing up to help out any anon who asked for you. Hell of a man.

Oppen, why do you think the UK keeps reducing the size of its arsenal? Having less than 200 weapons and apparently 40 weapons on patrol seems inadequate. It's even more strange when they're building a trident replacement.

Holy fuck..jusdt hoooleeeee fuck
Explosion blows the 720 ton blast door 200 feet into the air and it lands 600 DAMNED FEET AWAY???? Blows the war head 150 away and the nuke doesn't spill any radioactive material? I'm calling bullshit rigth there.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Damascus_Titan_missile_explosion

>>31463785
The plutonium is inside a stainless steel shell and the uranium is a metal. There is nothing to "spill".

>>31445287
I read somewhere that impure/low enriched uranium could make a shitty implosion type device
Supposedly shaped like a football (2 cones) and having a 50 ton yield

any of that plausible?

>>31445287
whats the deal with the Russian nuclear kamikaze ships? The ones where they load a freighter with deuterium and set off a nuke inside of it to vaporize entire port cities as a first strike

>>31463943
Where the fuck did you hear about that? Tom Clancy novel?

>>31463804
Fine.... but it would have been one hell of a happening is all I'm saying.


An a better note I'm going to see a screening of "Command and control'' on OCT at 8pm in Chicago. Looks like a wicked movie.

>>31463969
random bullshit heard on day/k/are

looks like oppenheimer is gone since some jackass mentioned fogbank

>>31463996
Whats that?

>>31463996
He was clearly here afterward >>31461701

It's not a magic spell that makes him disappear. He just doesn't touch it or talk about it, like those bomb diagrams earlier.

>>31445375

I also read that on his recommendation and quite enjoyed it. It's gonna be sad to lose these threads.

>>31450545
I know this contradicts the other posters, but don't do it anon.

I was born and raised in NM and work at one of the national labs in the state. Both are going downhill and unless you really luck out with management your work life will be miserable. Maybe life will be better when the contract goes to bid soon, but unless your interests are physics, computing, or you really love working for America, you will find more fulfilling careers elsewhere.


PS I'm still waiting for the day op provides useful verification of his field, I don't doubt he has some knowledge in the field, but some of his specifics are just wrong, naturally my post will be seen as shit flinging since I don't provide proofs, bust just take it as a reminder to always take the more in depth discussions on 4chan with a grain of salt.

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>>31464021
Un-secret secret re: some tech used in old nukes which had been lost(nobody knew how to make it anymore), and ostensibly required a crazy amount of effort to learn how to make it again when it came time for refurbs or upgrades to the weapons.

You can google it, it's fairly interesting, and obviously ain't nobody without a security clearance knows the details (oppie may have, but naturally he values his job/life/etc, so he ain't tellin' us peons), but the speculation seems to hinge around it being an aerogel used as the inter-stage material in a couple of thermonuclear warheads.

>yfw some buttblasted sperg and a few vatniks make based Oppenheimer !!bd8BUj0eKSN drop His trip

>>31464112
Was there some crazy thread where it was obviously just too much for the man?

I've seen him stack up against vatniks before, without much issue.

Will the US ever use drones as a nuclear delivery system?

>>31464094

He doesn't owe you shit. He was here before you, and people like you killed it. Fuck you.

I was here when he proved himself, and that's enough for us. All newbies need to get the fuck out.

>>31464094
>PS I'm still waiting for the day op provides useful verification of his field, I don't doubt he has some knowledge in the field, but some of his specifics are just wrong, naturally my post will be seen as shit flinging since I don't provide proofs, bust just take it as a reminder to always take the more in depth discussions on 4chan with a grain of salt.
/k/ used to have actual operators posting here. We have had some amazing people posting about real shit but ASSHOLES like you drove them away with your constant demands over citation and proof. WHat human being who has made something of themselves and has security clearances and shit is going to fucking dox themselves.''Oppenheimer obviously knows more about nukes than anyone else who posts here. FUCK.

I remember that crusty old Vietnam vet who used to post here all the time years ago and some fucktard like you drove him off with that stupid fucking stolen valor chanting you assholes always end up doing. FUCKFUYCKFUCKFUCK

>>31464184
>>31464240
Then that means I'm Donald Trump. After all, why would anyone lie on the internet?

>>31464184
>>31464240
Holy shit. How does:
>bust just take it as a reminder to always take the more in depth discussions on 4chan with a grain of salt.
Translate into "constant demands for citations or proof?". If you retards would just ignore shit posters, we would never have this problem.

>>31464240

At one point we had an actual green beret.

We had an honest to God blacksite interrogator, too.

I miss those days.

>>31464271

Oppen proved himself TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO. more than likely you weren't even in high school. More than likely you weren't even in fucking middle school.

He was even doxxed once, a guy called up his work and he stopped posting for over a year, but he came back.

He used to do wargaming threads, which were fun as fuck.

Now he just gets berated by retards who don't know any better. Do the board a favor, never post here again.

It's not the loss of the trip that hurts, it's what him leaving implies. It implies that the quality of this board has devolved to the point where the one topic (FUCKING WEAPONS) we should be talking about, cannot be effectively discussed.

>>31464284

Because he is what we call an "expert witness"

We KNOW he knows his shit. He IS the fucking citation.

>>31464271
And that means I can hide Your shitposting.

>>31464271
Not even close to a valid comparison.
If you spent a couple years explaining the finer points of the top tier real estate business the way Oppnheimer has talked about nukes and nuke related accessories then we would believe you were involved in high end real estate but not drumpf himself.
There are thousands and thousands of people who have spent years in the military working with nukes. It's not only possible that the trip is one of them but after lurking his threads all this time I believe he is one of them.
He doesn't CLAIM to be any specific person nor does he claim to be have been mentioned in any books, documentaries or hold any high rank. He just fucking talks about nukes with a great deal of authority you fucking spergmaster.

>>31464295

And don't forget the military historian that was ran off by autistic sperglords a couple years back.

Glad that I caught this thread, sad to see Opp go. I'd say the most recent experience related to nuclear weapons I've had was a trip to the Titan missile silo in Arizona while I was helping my grandparents in what will probably be the last move of their lives. I thoroughly enjoyed the tour and although I knew most of what was talked about beforehand I had never until that point been close enough to touch it (although we obviously weren't allowed to). Like all of Opp's insightful posts it was a thoroughly enjoyable experience.

Anyone else have an interesting fact or story related to nukes or nuclear power?

>>31464271
GODDAMNIT I miss the days when we had mods who activity chased assholes like you away. BRING BACK SNACKS HIROSHIMA MOOT RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
That psychotic autistic speglord could clean up most of the boards on the chan in a fucking week if we got him enough speed.

>>31464333

Too bad he fucked kids.

Not too long ago though we had an aggressive mod on /k/ who kept shit clean.

Gone are the days. I think I'll be leaving soon. If things don't pick back up after the election then I'm out.

>>31464295
i'm amazed with how patient he was. he's not leaving btw, he's just not using the trip. i wouldn't be surprised if he keeps dropping atomic facts on people like always, just without the trip. his greentext of silly shit > direct answer chain is easy to pick out.

i used to know a guy who was (at the time) active australian intelligence and i told him he should start posting about his work (not spy shit, but close-ish). he talked without a trip and got derailed for something like 10 threads, then he tried a trip and someone called him a "discount oppenheimer, just even more of a faggot" and he left this website entirely.

we need to fix this board culture. it's absolutely cancerous at the moment.

>>38855536
prove me wrong, you haven't. trump wouldv'e destroyed bruce lee and made china pay for the wall across the pacific

>>31464317
>He just fucking talks about nukes with a great deal of authority you fucking spergmaster.
Im not the trump poster but >>31464094 and this will be my second and last post in this thread:

If the other posters would actually read what I wrote, I don't bear the man any ill will, nor do I claim to have seen all his threads. When I first talked to OP years ago I asked him a very general question with an answer that would contradict what you see on the first few pages of Google, he did not answer it correctly.

Does this mean he is a liar or has pulled everything out if his ass? It does not, should he have been bullied off the board? I don't think so, but just like he has said in his own reply:
>and on the other side, I can do no wrong, and should be revered.
The same levels of fanaticism from those who want him gone I see when I make a simple comment about how you need to take things posted at face value shows the quality of this board.

All I am is a bitter old man who is not willing to talk about things to the depths OP is. From the threads I have been in, he has mentioned topics that are both researched and interesting, just not always accurate.

The amount of work that goes into the creation of a weapon (nuclear or otherwise) is incredible, and it's not reasonable to expect one person to know about all the steps. I don't think that should be a requirement for discussion either, however, the amount of hatred on both sides on a Chinese cartoon imageboard is insane.

>>31464374

It's trash. Like I said earlier, we had a lot of really awesome people, all of them chased away. Somehow people still defend DR8CO though. It's the voluntary dumbing down of the board.

Aggressive moderation is the only thing that could fix this.

>>31464389

Yeah I call bullshit.

He's proven himself. You are just an anon.

I don't have two fucks what you have to say. Oppenheimer was fun, you are not.

The board quality would be improved of you were gone for good, instead of him.

Wow. Thia thread sure went downhill

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>>31464414
Perhaps you might even say that it...bombed?

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>>31445643
>B61-12 will enter service
Is this to keep the European NATO nuclear arsenal in shape? Like those in the vaults at Incirlik and Volkel meant for F-16 gravity drop?
>Why am I even asking this I'll never get this answer and I understand wholefully. Oppenheimer you're a great man and I'm sorry for the fags that made you take this decision.

>Pakistan losing a nuke
>KSA announcing a nuke in the future
>Norks ramped up nuclear developments
>terror group using Improvised Nuclear Device

So... After reading and loving every second of your many awesome threads, I've come to the understanding it is very likely that we will see a nuclear detonation used as a weapon once again in this 21st century. Not to mention this Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo we're in.

I've never had a good answer on this before:
>What are the top 3 items to carry EDC or in a bug out kit for nuclear survival, apart from a calibrated geiger counter and iodine tablets?

Anyone ever seen this? http://www.nukalert.com/index_a.html


Currently reading the FEMA Improvised Nuclear Detonation in National Capitol Region report. Seeking 24-48 hours of shelter in an underground car park doesn't seem too bad for a single bomb or very limited nuclear exchange, or am I completely wrong on that timeframe?


Pic related: Great leader overseeing recent KN-11 SLBM tests

Oppenheimer, you do realize the chicoms will claim victory over this, right?

They will use this as a way to discredit your words.

>>31464373
>Too bad he fucked kids.
He fucked moot plenty.
You know snacks was banished because he broke little mootles heart, right?
>>31464389
Not top be a dick biut how long have you been coming to /k/ on the regular anon? Because his proof is the several years he has been posting the most accurate info about nukes /k/ has ever had.

His p[osts are proof.
You miss my point that he isn't claiming to be anything but a tripfag that knows his shit. He makes no claim to fame, fourtune or fucking rank.

Exactly what does he have to proove when his knowledge is completely transparent and proven true and correct for years and years. Fuck off already newfaggot fucktard.
>OP years ago I asked him a very general question with an answer that would contradict what you see on the first few pages of Google, he did not answer it correctly.
You're a piece if shit liar. Go away, everyone who hangs in hos threads knows better newfaggot. lol.

Jagoffs like you are we can't have any nice things.

>>31464401
>Somehow people still defend DR8CO though
Nope, anyone saying nice things about that cancerous fuck is him samefagging. He has no friends here anymore.
>>31464410
Go to feedback, link his troll posts and get him banned.

>>31462510
On Thermonuclear War By Herman Kahn
On Limited Nuclear War in the 21st Century by Jeffrey Larsen and Kerry Kartchner
The Evolution of Nuclear Strategy, Third Edition by Lawrence Freedman
Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces by Pavel Podvig
Nuclear Statecraft: History and Strategy in America's Atomic Age by Francis J. Gavin
Eating Grass: The Making of the Pakistani Bomb by Feroz Khan
Prevention, Pre-emption and the Nuclear Option: From Bush to Obama by Aiden Warren
Nuclear Deterrence in the 21st Century: Lessons from the Cold War for a New Era of Strategic Piracy by Thérèse Delpech
Analyzing Strategic Nuclear Policy by Charles L. Glaser
Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes
Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb by Richard Rhodes
Nuclear Strategy in the Modern Era: Regional Powers and International Conflict by Vipin Narang
Building the H Bomb: A Personal History By Kenneth W Ford

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How accurate is the movie threads?

>>31464094
>PS I'm still waiting for the day op provides useful verification of his field

But he has? I clearly recall him getting Doxx'ed for it.

>>31464575
what was the dox even like? was it full on "this is where he works, this is where he lives, this is his favorite cafe, this is where he gets his car worked on" or was it just his name and company?

>>31464591
>or was it just his name and company?
You can't be this stupid. You're trolling away from the random board which is a global rule violation. Everyone needs to report this asshat.

Doxing people is banable as well.Are you trying to get banned troll cause this is how you get banned.

>>31464591
I think it was more like the latter, but you'd do him a favour by not digging at it more.

>>31464591
As I understand it they rang up his work and tried to use the stereotype of 4chan to get him sacked. It didn't work.

I think they may have thrown in a "he's leaking secrets!" claim as well.

>>31464640
what? m8 i'm not asking for his dox or trying to dox him, christ. he has some type of knowledge about nuclear weapons and i know that's basically an instant TS classification. do you think i want to get a hand shoved up my ass by the feds?

>>31464643
i'm not, buddy.

>>31464645
right, thanks. did the guy(s) who did it eventually get caught?

>>31464651
well m8 that's a pretty bad idea regardless considering by his own confession he worked close to or directly with the DoD at some point. i'm pretty sure he could just tell his boss and get 200 people vanned.

>>31464671
for
>>31464664

>>31445391
Do what you gotta do man. Just don't leave us. Your information is priceless.

>>31464640
>>31464643
>>31464645
>>31464664

Can you hosebags stop replying to this fucking troll already?
Jesus you idiots are easy top troll, have you ever seen any bait you didn't take.

>>31464694
Do you know what a troll is?

All we have here is a dude asking a simple question. Christ.

>>31445287
Link to previous bread anyone?

Also, oppen what happened with that doxing?

>>31445391
>>31464763

Oh, he's leaving :(

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>>31445287
I have a question about projected fallout and necessary bunker'ing time.

There are maps and charts to project the fallout distribution and decay rate of said fallout of a singe nuclear detonation of varying sizes and altitudes in an area. However, in the even of multiple detonations these charts seem less useful. In the even of multiple detonations (e.g. in a full nuclear exchange), can the projected fallout and decay be modeled by overlapping the results for individual detonations? If not, what is the a more appropriate means of calculating the distribution and decay?

As an example: In the event of a large exchange, there might be several detonations in and around Michigan. How might one project fallout and decay in the red triangle between Kalamazoo, Ann Arbor, and Lansing (pic related)?

>>31463943
>>31461701
Oppen, how feasible is this?

>https://themoscowtimes.com/news/images-of-russian-nuclear-kamikaze-submarine-leaked-in-state-tv-broadcast-50741

>>31447203
Story I heard was he went looking for StG44s after he saw a picture of a container full of the fuckers in Syria at the start of the wall. Never came back.

Probably bullshit though.

>>31464852
He is kill, RIP in pieces and the whole nine yards.

>>31464874
>this picture
every time

fuck

>>31464884
He had quite an ouchi if you know what i mean

>>31447530
Some people just love gliders.

>>31464918
Or Listerine.

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>>31464887

Oppie, I will try to keep this short.

A few years ago I was depressed because my gf left at the same time my puppie died. One last night, I came here to say goodbye and I saw one of your threads. I completely forgot about my plastic bag going through your thread and went to bed when it hit the post count. The next morning, I woke up and thought killing myself was a stupid idea.

Thanks Oppie for saving my life. I owe you.

>>31464940
i don't deserve life

>>31464874
whats going on in this image

>>31464975
Story time right now anon.

>>31464996

Acute radiation sickness.

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>>31464119
It was the mod threads. They devolved into people arguing about whether trips should exist, and then simply became an OPpenheimer IS A GOOD TRIP vs OPpenheimer IS W LYING FAG AND YOU'RE FAGGOTS. I guess he didn't like the one extreme of being reviled and the other of being worshipped. Either way it sucks and I'll be bitter a long time that we lost a good trip for what is essentially shitposting

>>31465002
whats with the individual suspension of each finger? What is trying to be accomplished? Is it dead yet? Is all that elaborate stuff part of an attempt to treat it? Is it some sort of experiment?

>>31465012

They attempted to keep him alive as long as possible.

They suspend his limbs and his extremities seperatly to prevent any objects from accidentally causing trauma to them, or for them to become stuck to anything. At this point he has literally no skin.

IIRC he was kept alive for like 70 days with extremely cutting edge (at the time) treatments sponsored by the Japanese and American governments.

>>31465022
He WAS in a medicially induced coma, right?

>>31464996

Terrible, terrible things....

In a nutshell he was a japanese nuclear worker who got blasted with a suoer high dose of radiation and the doctors kept him alive against his very dear wishes to die in order to study him.

He was actually begging for death, but they kept him alive as long as they could in order to study him.

Pray you never have a unique illness or injury in japan.

>>31465029
Nope

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All this arguing about his validity is dumb. But we who believe are part of the problem. You're defending OPpenheimer like he's your religion and he specifically stated that that was half of what made him uncomfortable. Just let it go. I loved these threads too but he'll still be here. In a way. It's over

>>31465022
If I ever find myself in that situation I'm blowing my brains out. I'm not becoming a government science experiment.

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>>31465022
>>31465030
>>31465029
>>31465038

>>31465022
>>31465030
huh

Makes me wonder now what the worst exposure that someone actually recovered from.

Though i suppose recover is relative since cancer or something down the line.

But has anyone ever gotten somewhat.. goopy.. and then recovered?

>>31445287
While I haven't been here as long as you, the length of time I have been has made me genuinely appreciate you showing up and taking part in threads.

>>31465046
IIRC there was a guy, (not opp) who talked about his first day looki,g at a nuke facility, the instructor said, verbatim "keep a pen and notepad with you at all times. If you see a blue flash of light, and/or your rad badge goes off. Just sit down and start writing a letter to your loved ones. Nothing else you can do at that point"

>>31465029

Yes. He was actually conscious until they put him in a coma when his skin fell off.

The neutron beams don't do immediate damage, they destroy the chromosomes and DNA, meaning when your body needs to create more skin/liver/etc cells it just can't.

You know that saying that you have a brand new body every seven years? Yeah well this guy couldn't replace the parts of his body like that.

He was alive for 83 days until massive organ failure took him. He was losing up to 5 gallons of bodily fluids a day.

>>31465046

He was fine for a little while. Unfortunately in the name of science and medicine we must have a first. He was a boon for stem cell research.

>>31465038

Heh, nice misdirection

>>31465067

That's total bullshit. A friend of mine is a diver at a nuclear research facility and has never once worried or been advised of that shit.

Of course, he could've just been fucking with the new guys.

>>31465056

The divers at Chernobyl tasked with preventing floodwater from reaching the "elephant's foot," contrary to popular belief, are still alive and kicking. Pretty cool guys, they think it's funny that everyone thinks they're dead.

>>31465080
Probably it. But at the same time, if you are close enough to see the blue flash, youre fucked.

>>31465087
Water works as a pretty good rad barrier

>>31465089

Depends. Water is a fantastic insulator.

If it occurs in the coolant pool or mixing bucket, unless you're standing directly over the bucket, you'll be fine.

>>31449836
THAT'S IT
THAT'S THE BOOGEY MAN
Yeah, bro, definitely it was a joke about taking a gun-grabber art project and ironically worshiping it that made a trip leave their trip.
Literally what? You're no fun at all.

>>31465099

Yeah, you'd have to pretty much touch the casements the rods are in to die.

>>31450403
>capped but no satisfying conclusion
lame af senpai

>>31465072

Are... are you the new Oppen?
G-guys! G-guys I found a replacement!
It's the new Oppenheimer!

Please love me... please be a new Oppen...

>>31465089
You see a blue flash in pool type research reactors all the time.

>>31455771
>is identifiable within three digits of decimal
Out to the ten-thousandth place is generally considered significant.
>>31455891
Even if it's not quite 1% it's still significant.

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>>31464437

>>31465138
I should have specified open air. You can see the cherenkov radiation blue light in reactor pools easily.


Look up Harry K. Daghlian Jr. And tbe Demon Core. Individuals involved with the core reported blue flashes of light

>>31445287
This is my first reply/message directly to you.
I just want to thank you for everything. Ive been working on the history of nuke development in my country for roughly 3 years and your threads have helped me a great deal.
Hope to see you around, anon or not
//76C

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Hope you do stick around opp, you always make threads 10x better.

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I know you'll still lurk Opp, but it still feels sad that some have drove you to this.

See you space cowboy

>>31465882
see you space cowboy

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>>31465886
see you space cowboy

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If they ever tell my story, let them say I posted with giants.

Trips rise and fall like the winter wheat, but this name will never die.

Let them say I posted in an Oppenheimer thread, a trove of nuclear knowledge.

Let them say I posted in the time of Oppenheimer.

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>>31465918
see YOU space cowboy

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>>31445287
>One last final nuke thread.

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Let's filibuster this thread. We'll make it last forever to honor our good friend

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Anyone around Chicago want to go to the Chicago screening of "Command and Control" on OCT 7th?
>>31466053
that damn gif
>>31466763
Fuck it, start another one. Tolkics could be that movie or maybe be about that ICBM that blew up in AR in 1980.

>>31454666
Hail Him.

>>31461701
based oppy, doing Odin's work.

may your days be long and full of dutiful experimentation, you glorious bastard.

>>31445434
How will I know if the info is accurate if it's just by an anon though?

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>>31465056
The maximum dosage a human being can survive seems to be between 7 and 8 Sv, anything higher and you're basically already dead with no hope of survival (although I guess modern medical technology could prolong your hellish quasi-life for quite some time). Ouichi was in physical contact with the precipitation tank when the reactor went critical and was exposed to 17 Sv more than double the normally lethal dose and almost immediately began to suffer the symptoms of acute radiation sickness. The other technician working with him was exposed to only 10 Sv and may have survived but he died from a severe infection after receiving skin grafts because the radiation had almost completely exterminated his and Ouichi's white blood cells. Ouichi's organs basically turned to slush and his heart eventually failed.

In short, you might survive a 7/8Sv dose but it's debatable whether you would actually want to be alive. Some of your skin would probably peel off, your immune system would be cooked, and you'd be plagued with all kinds of different health problems from damage caused to your vital organs.

I found these, thinking about buying the keyfob thing. I live real close to a nuke plant. Let me know what you think about that keyfob newly http://preparedness.ideascale.com/anon.
>http://www.nukalert.com/
I'm not exactly sure what this site is even about but it seems very content rich.
>http://preparedness.ideascale.com/

What say you tripless

My dad has a neat little rotating disk thingy that you can use to calculate the leathalness of a blast

It has cardboard disks that spin around and display things through holes cut in the top piece

It's pretty neat

Hope I never have to use it.....

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>>31445391
We'll miss you Oppen, too bad faggots had to ruin it.

>>31449224
>Tumblr
I can see the angry SJW posts about the evil Nazi sympathizer who thinks nukes are great already

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>>31445391
Bless you Oppen.
I've started your reading list a year and a half ago, and I've learned to much. You've calmed my fears about nuclear war so much I can sleep at night.

Thank you.

>>31464960
based oppenheimer

Read all the replies and kind words.
Im not leaving, just going anon. Its for the best in the long run.
As always, you can email me. If it takes a bit to get back to you im sorry.

Remember /k/, we are all sons of bitches.

>>31469141
>Hope I never have to use it.....
pussy
>>31469428
>who thinks nukes are great already
pussy.

Also The National Socialist party under Hitler didn't use nukes. The all knowing protector of the Earth used the fuckers.

op if you die i'll take care of your dog

i took care of cute puppers all the time in chernobyl

>>31455726
You're gonna love the kinetic energy that was in that bitch. 900 kg object moving at least 66 km/s has at least 1.9 TERAjoules of energy. As a fun comparison, .50 BMG has about 13 kilojoules.

Interestingly, its lower estimate of kinetic energy is roughly equivalent to a 500 ton yield nuke.

This kind of energy makes me giddy.

>>31469513
can you tell me what you think about this outfit. Are the wares legit or vapor. Thinking about the keyfob dealio I live down wind of a nuke plant.
>http://www.nukalert.com/
Thanks

>>31469544
You do realize I was mocking the Tumblrites who would probably wail like banshees if anyone talked about nukes in anything but a "literally spawn of Satan" manner, right?

>>31470021
I can't wait until we delevop 4th Gen nuclear weapons so that we can actually use them in an engagement.
Oppenheimer, what's the likelihood of us reaching the conventional usage of low yield nuks?

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We shall now retire the Opp-phone...

>>31470021
You're forgiven

some one start a gad damned nuke thread for the love of the fucking /k/ube

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>>31445391
You shouldn't listen to them man. They repersent an infinitesimally small minority of /k/.
That said, if there's really no chance of you staying, the I just want to let you know you've done a lot of good, and educated a lot of people, bith directly and indirectly. At least you'll still be here as anon.
See you space cowboy
;_;7