Whats the advantage of having an AK-74 instead of an AR-15.

>>31433314
Personally I would go with what ever is cheaper, for me that is the AR. That being said, I kinda feel like bigger is better, so If all things were equal then AK.

Really depends on one's circumstances. Both will shoot you dead.

For 1 it's gonna be because it can run in all environments right?

>>31433314
Outside of 5.45 being better, nothing.

>>31433339

If the bigger the better then the M134 or the Vulcan is reliable.

Is there any difference in moving parts?

>>31433314
Unless you're stocked up on a lot of ammo, no advantage. I agree the 5.45x39 is better but in a shtf scenario I would just go with an ar15 in 5.56x45 to many agencies, civilians, other countries, use this ammo.

>>31433314

>implying

>instead

personal taste

>>31433314
i like the ability to not have sights mounted on a dust cover.

>>31433314
AK74 can shoot full auto.

I think the advantage dried up when the cheaply available spam cans of good quality ammo dried up/banned.

>>31433314
The AK won't stop firing, even if you don't lube or clean it for a long time. It's great for guerilla forces and SHTF, but not so much for actual armies. It handles sand better, but mud worse than an AR.

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>>31433314
Why not just build a 5.45x39 ar15.

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>>31433314
I'm a bit biased here since I went the AKM/103 route but honestly nothing substantial except for a more mechanically simple action. Its basically like coke and pepsi when it comes to personal preference, but the 74 doesn't have tangible advantages over the AR. The AR is cheaper, has more prevalent ammo in North America, cheaper mags, more aftermarket (as of now), and is more mechanically accurate if it is nice enough. I still really really want a 74 though, but since the election season is rolling around I want to get into the AR game first since I already have a 47.

>>31434650
>>31434650

>The AK won't stop firing, even if you don't lube or clean it for a long time

This is bullshit and I'm so tired of this meme. If you fire an AK with corrosive, laquer coated, steel case ammunition and don't clean it properly, you'll get a rusty rough chamber that will hold casings in like they've been epoxied. I've experienced this kind of stoppage.

>>31434604
Ultimak, zenitco and rs regulate have solved that problem.

>>31434618
I just got 1500 rounds of wolf for $.21/rnd. It's still pretty cheap. I like noncorrosive anyway.

>>31433314
If you live in a 3rd world country, AK47s are dirt fucking cheap.

If you live in the first world, AR15s are the cheaper option, and sometimes the only option you don't have to swap out parts for to make it legal.

I dunno, it's mostly preference and hearsay between the two platforms. Either one is going to fucking kill someone

>>31434792
>Corrosive
>Lacquered
Okay I'll give you that but
>Steel cased
Yeah, nah. I've shot thousands of steel cased through mine with minimal maintenance without a single failure.

>>31434615
Because AK74's in full auto are so common...

There is none, except an affinity for Slavaboo shit. To me it looks like a poorfag.

>>31434716
You're the guy selling this on gunbroker?

>>31435191
No?
Send me the gun broker link.
Some shit waffle might be useing one of my pics to scam someone.

Wait, I take it back. The AK platform is inherently more reliable than the AR.

>>31435202
yeah i saw this link on gunbroker must be someone from here

>>31435247
I think you forgot the link.

>>31433314
>crocs with socks

>>31435279
http://www.armslist.com/posts/5863575/charlotte-north-carolina-rifles-for-trade--fulton-armory-5-45-ar15-
i knew it was too good to be true

>>31434804
21¢pr is about the going price of Russian steel case .223 as well.

>>31433314
there aren't any left really.
it used to be cheap to shoot and the commercial production ammo isn't that bad even now but you can shoot steel case 223 for the same price.
7n6 5.45 tumbles better than 5.56 so after fragmentation range it's better than the earlier cartridges like m193 and m855 however more recent 5.56 cartridges blow it out of the water as far as wounding capability at really any ranges. the more modern successors to 7n6 are supposed to do quite well against armor but you can't get them in the states if russia is even surplussing it out yet.

at this point a 5.56 AK pattern rifle would make more sense if you wanted an AK in a lighter recoiling or higher velocity cartridge than 7.62x39.

>>31434716
>4 years too late: the post

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>>31435312
Oh thats my post on armslist.
When you said gun broker i was a little confused

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>>31435537
Ehh i got bored of 556 3 years ago.
So i swapped it over to 5.45.
Originally is had a match barrel with an aluminum free float sleeve.Dam thing weighed 12 pounds.

>>31433314
ammo was $.13/rd when i bought my 5.45 saiga for $400. nowadays not much. supposedly better terminal range

>>31433314
The ability to jam your gun with mud on demand as like a parlor trick. Try doing that with an Ar-15

charging handle is retarded
forward assist is retarded
buffertube is retarded
why do you need attachments? if you want a light why wouldnt you put it on your head? it will shine where you are LOOKING not where your rifle is pointing. why would you need a laser sight are you fucking retarded? who the fuck uses a foregrip. all you need on the forend of a rifle is a bayonet and some nice durable wooden grips. 5.56 is a pussy caliber. little baby bullets. 30 caliber is a man killer, .22 is a target round. m16/m4/ar has been redesigned countless times and its users are constantly trying to compensate for its flaws. AK was fine the first time and has been the same ever since yet still is seen as its competitor. AR-15 is a meme cannon.

>>31435655
AND WHAT IS UP WITH THAT LITTLE FLAPPY TRAPDOOR MARRY POPPINS BULLSHIT DUSTCOVER

The AR-15 is a miracle of modern engineering. It is literally one of the best if not the best rifle ever invented. It is infintely durable and infinitely powerful, perfectly suited for non-stop warfare. 5.56x45cm ballistics are virtually unmatched by any modern or historical cartridge. Its versatility is prolific and suitable for any needs, be it large or small game, home defense, concealed carry, long range sniper, cowboy action shooting, pest removal, or just all around fun. Any army that fields anything but an M4 variant is basically shit under Americas shoe. Any other rifle is a toy. Don't waste your money on any of these joke rifles, buy an AR-15 immediately or hang yourself.

>>31435655
>charging handle is retarded
This is actually true though. Nonreciprocating charging handle is bad UX, super unintuitive, and adds training overhead

>>31435552
So wait, you asked why not get a AR chambered in 5.45 instead of a 74, when your currently trying to trade yours for an AK?

>>31435159
OP said AK74, not SLR104 or any other semi auto 5.45 AK.
They don't make semi auto rifles with the designation AK74.

-5.45x39 is better ballistically

-It's an AK and AKs have the better
A E S T H E T I C S

-Better reliability in most modern warfare (read: middle east)

-Cheaper to make (but not to buy in America because commies)

-Magazine doesn't drop, I prefer this

-Cost of ammo is almost as cheap/as cheap, and accuracy is very similar (with the same sights and ammo)

-very cheeki

-can into avtomat mode if richfag

-I like it better personally

-Aftermarket is severely understated

-Simpler and more intuitive to use

-You can get it in 5.56x45 if you wanna

at least half of these are reasons to get an AK-74

>>31435733
Not really i just put it up to see if i get any interesting offers.

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>>31434783
lol sights moving when fired

>>31434783
why do people say this shit? 7.62x39 is available literally everywhere, and 5.45 isnt that hard to get. where are you getting your ammo? cabelas? why not online where you can compare the best prices and get it shipped to your door. the AK aftermarket is big, its just not gigantic and filled with 1000000 gimmicks to jew these AR zealots out of their money, when it comes to actually decent and useful parts AR still has more but not by much.

I've been shooting AKs for 10+ years now and only have ever fired ARs like 2-3 times. Finally decided it was time to build an AR though. From what I can tell, building a decent AR is costing just as much as a decent AK. Decent 5.56 is more expensive than similarly performing 5.45. On top of this, the AR aftermarket is so huge I can easily see how people dump thousands into making the rifle "perfect".

Personally, I prefer the feel of a 74 and the sights. I live in an area where I can't often have a 300+ m line of sight, so it's not important to have a rifle that can hold super tight groups at long ranges. The AK sights are faster for me and accurate enough. I also prefer the magazine and operating system of an AK. Generally, I think the AK gives me a certain piece of mind because of how few parts there are to fuck with.

On the flip side, an AR is much easier to do serious work on, and currently, replacing worn springs and other crap is easy since the parts are widely available. But to reference my area again, it's very brush heavy, so either of these smaller caliber rifles can get seriously cucked. I prefer my 7.62x39 because it cuts through a bit better without going all willy nilly.

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>>31436777
good read, but keep in mind that 5.45 might be hard to find in some places in the US.

>>31433314
7.62x39 performs better at shorter ranges such as innacity or innawoods.

The action is impeccably reliable compared to the very admirable but not perfect multi lug rotating bolt of the AR.

Internals are much more common and can be replaced with a lot of ease compared to the AR, making general maintenance much easier.

Other than that, there isn't much else, the AR is probably a better pick if you live in the states though.

Parts and 5.56 are much easier to get in the US than AK parts and ammo so for an actual SHTF scenario you'd likely want an AR.

Though owning both is the ideal situation.

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>>31434604
>what are side mounts for 500

>>31435338
.223 is a garbage round, you'll want 5.56/5.45 and/or 7.62 if you actually want to defend yourself in a firefight.

>>31438688
>ak-74
>7.62x39
Pick one.

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>>31433361
Good luck finding it in your state

>>31433314
AK-74
>Bolt will last longer, not that you will shoot 10,000+ rounds through your AR/AK anyway
>AK-74 extractor and ejector are much beefier and an overall better design.
>Newer SGLs and to an extent regular 74's have more reliable bolt locking process with considerably less energy required to lock the bolt
>Reciprocating bolt is nicer for clearing jams
>cannot chamber or eject a round on safe (useful for doing a press check)
>5.45 is the better cartridge overall
>magazines, while more expensive, are 10 times the magazine any gucci AR mag will ever be.
>nicer rail systems are available like Zenitco, RS Regulate, ultimak, etc.
>doesn't really give a fuck about ammo quality
>doesn't really have any gas system compatibility issues like gas port size, barrel length, and gas system length
>has almost half the recoil even without the muzzle device
>overall design and engineering is better and more thought out on a systematic level from the cleaning kit to magazines and cartridge are all designed to with the rifle's current configuration in mind rather than in seperate engineering "blocks" like magazine followers, magazine/magwell shape, etc.
>part for part, it will outlast an AR

AR-15
>ammunition selection has higher availability and overall nicer quality selection
>mags are cheap
>building and rebuilding is ez pz
>no real need to headspace barrels/bolts because of extension locking lugs are already headspaced to the barrel
>DI keeps the gun lighter
>faster cyclic rate
>magazines are lighter
>upgrades are cheaper
>shittier manufacturers are still better than the shittier AK manufacturers
>has a bolt catch if you're into that
>can swap uppers/lowers - not that the AK was intentionally designed to not do that as part of its systematic design but if you would rather have this than buy another lower its a good option for that

I like the 74 overall better, but I like having my 10.5" AR """"pistol"""" for HD. 74 is the better combat arm for line infantry imo.

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>>31433314
>2000+16
>not owning both

>>31438745
>You'll want an exact duplicate of this thing I claim to be shit to be prepared
Yeager, please.

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>>31440139
This, both is best. I would grab the AR before the 106 though, just personal preference.

>>31440139
x39 ak and 5.56 ar makes so much more sense unless you specifically want a 22 cal ak
i would gladly trade my sgl31 for a 21

>>31440253
I'll trade you your SGL for a Romanian Guards kit build.

>>31433314
CROCS
R
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>>31440285
not slav enough.

>>31435128
Because it wasn't corrosive and lacquered

>>31440340
>He doesn't want a RSB with a big "G" on it

You can tell all your friends it stands for gangster.

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>>31433314
Fuck ar-15s

Get this: Pic related SLR-106 or any ak-relevant 556/223

>arcucks btfo

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>>31434783
>Its basically like coke and pepsi when it comes to personal preference
>implying either
>not drinking based Dr. Pepper masterrace

>>31436256
This. It's sad tbqh, people just have to rationalize their AK hate

>>31433314
More reliable with zero maintenance
other than that they perform the same role