Why even own this caliber???

>>31433305
>kids
>women
>old people
>small game

>>31433305
The only thing that's special about it is that rednecks can get drunk and shoot cans all day.
>is cheap and you provide example despite also saying it's not cheap? / one point for .22lr

5.56 has practically no recoil, neither does 9mm
>opinions and .22lr has even less recoil so it does what you say these other calibers do, but better +1 point

Not used by any military
>Israel uses .22lr for crowd control. +1 point for .22lr

Can carry more .22lr than 9mm or 5.56 +1 point for .22lr

Useless for self defense
>Opinions based on retardation because all bullets do damage to soft tissue and marksmanship is more important than caliber +1 point for .22lr

It is, however, somewhat unreliable if you go for the cheap shit. +1 point for faggot op

You're not making an effective argument, here.

>>31433305
>Useless for self defense

lol

>>31433305
.22lr is the deadliest cartridge, faggot.

>>31433305
high quality CCI hollow points will fuck your day up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DzLQGv-w5M skip to 3:30

now imagine getting shot by like 15 of those in 2 seconds

gg

>Talking about .22
>9mm has no recoil

Nigga what?

in the grand scheme of boolits, 9mm has no recoil, but when comparing it to a .22, a 9mm is damn near .700 nitro.

Also, 10 years ago the ammo was cheap as chips, you think people will just throw away their guns because the ammo isn't as cheap as it once was?

>>31433445

>10 years ago

That's still not a good reason to recommend new ones to people

It's a totally obsolete cartridge

>>31433445
its still cheap at 6 cents per round nigger

>>31433445
It's still very cheap.
.223 is about 22 cents/round, 9mm is about15 cents/round.

22LR is 6-7 cents per round.

>>31433346

>women and kids
Are all capable of handling a 9mm carbine
>old people
See above
>small game
Fudds, literally who cares about hunting. Cancer of the gun world.

>>31433491
>Fudds, literally who cares about hunting. Cancer of the gun world.
ha new meme

>>31433484
I agree, but op thinks that's expensive. I swear it was cheaper 10 years ago though. Those were my college days though, so...

>>31433491
Have your (You)

>>31433305
It's good for taking rabbits and tree rat's without messing them up too bad. Also comfy as fuck to shoot.

>>31433484
>>31433490

If you can find it cheap, it's still cheap shit.

You know what's cheaper? Not buying one of the stupid things in the first place, and putting all the money that you'd spend on the gun, scope, and ammo into practice ammo for a real fighting rifle, and go train.

>>31433421
Much rather have the cci 40gr mini mags with the round nose. Having a hollowpoint means less penetration. Not like you're getting expansion that matters.

>>31433518
James Yeager from Tactical Response, please leave.

>>31433491
>the only people who hunt are people I don't like

>>31433531
Did you not see the hollow points go through 4 layers of denim at 300 yards?

and that expansion was still pretty significant

>>31433518
>you think spending less money is cheaper?
>HA! Think again kiddo.
>you know what's REALLY cheap?
>spending more money.

>>31433305
everybody and their mom has a .22 rifle, they're like bic pens. they appear in your safe, or come in the box of every gun you purchase

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most under rated killer , ever.......
any silent up close job from the jungle to the concrete always good to have on you.
a 5 year old can silence it , and use it out doors the echo is untraceable by algorithm's much less the human ear.

>>31433566
I don't own a .22 LR rifle. I own a .22 LR pistol.

>>31433615
Do you carry it?

>>31433615
a pistol is like a little rifle but with one grip

>>31433619
Jesus, no. I carry a 9mm.

>>31433625
Pussy.

>>31433559
>>31433559

>$400+ on rifle, optic, magazines, sling, case etc

You could buy a case and a half of 5.56 for the actual costs of a POS .22. You'll save some $ in the long run but don't pretend it's not a shit gun that isn't helping you get better.

>>31433531
>not filling your mag with half hollow point and half round nose

notthing perssonel kiddo

>>31433670
Do you carry a .22LR pistol?

>>31433305

It's cheap, has zero recoil, does a hell of a job on small game and suppresses brilliantly.

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>>31433305
Baitiest of bait threads.

>>31433699
An air rifle is better for small game, ammo is a lot cheaper. And it'll kill game just fine.

>>31433724
I wouldn't want to run into the guy who wasn't incapacitated by a shotgun

>>31433305
Because I can shoot squirrels in the back yard with .22lr through my suppressed bolt action and the neighbors have no idea.

>>31433728
air rifles are pure fucking cancer

literally worse than airshit

>>31433747
Why?

>>31433305
probably bait but here goes

> Its cheap, like 10 cents per shot, because it literally is piece of shit ammo - you cant reload it

> which is why its unreliable

I do agree that its not ideal. Whether we're talking centrefire or rimfire we should be hurling stones of at least 6.8 or 7mm variety

Because they can be higher mass low velocity shots to take out game and deliver tack driving performance.

Or high velocity hollowpoints for self defense - and at around 7mm with a longer case they would pack as much punch and penetration as a .32 magnum.


Consider dear reader... the .22 short and the .22 long rifle were designed in the 1800s near the forefront of cartridge cased firearms development, when literally just about everything was a wildcat cartridge and there were few standards.

Somehow they kept making them, which was a mistake in my opinion. The 7.62x54mmR might be nearly as old as the .22 LR but they at least got it right the first time.

This was also a time back when people really did hunt for food alot, and .22 Short or LR was good enough as a game getter.

> useless for self defense
Plus nobody wanted to be shot and get an infection back then, so anything that would pierce the skin (like a .41 derringer) was a good enough threat.

And modern examples do show with the right bullet it will kill you easily or fuck up your life significantly.

But it is far from ideal.

In terms of effectiveness though ironically it is a little bit more capable than a .32acp.

>>31433728
Show me an air rifle that can throw a 40gr. Slug at 1040 fps with as little noise as my suppressed .22 and I'll sick your dick

>>31433728

Subsonic 22 penetrates better than 900fps air rifles.

>>31433761
>>31433771
Because pigeons, crows, rats, rabbits, squirrels and the like are extremely resilient beasts that require at least 100 foot pounds at the muzzle to kill, right?

>>31433789
yep

round here the squirrels wear chainmail and you need a 22 to penetrate it

>>31433740
I have a CZ 452 Ultra Lux with a 28" barrel that sounds like an air rifle with sub sonic ammo.

>>31433771

Those sniper sub sonic agquilas get my dick hard for some reason.

60 grains of lead pill, getting 11 inches of penetration, total retention.

These are like .45acp numbers just a smaller hole.

Also makes you clean your gun more often, which can be fun in its own right.

>>31433789

Not necessarily but it's simply more likely to wound and it's not a bad idea to be humane.

>>31433789
>let me buy an air rifle to do something my 22 can do

>>31433789
>crows

>>31433789
No dipshit. But I can kill anything up to racoon and stray dogs with a .22

Also, I like how you ignore the noise thing. Higher powered air rifles are loud AF

>>31433802
>28" for a .22
Jesus. At that point I wonder if your barrel actually reduces velocity slightly

>>31433798
Are you australian?

>>31433807
>it's simply more likely to wound
I disagree. Just keep to ranges you can hit the killzones reliably and you'll drop them every time.

>it's not a bad idea to be humane.
I agree.

>>31433816
Air rifles aren't expensive. If you have enough problem with pests, they pay for themselves in the long run.

>>31433821
Never had a problem with crows?

>>31433824
Air rifles can have suppressors without NFA stamps. They can be very quiet, though they also can be very loud.

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>>31433847

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>>31433884
>>31433847

>>31433884
>>31433897
Your point? You could shoot your pests with suppressed .300 Blackout if you wanted. You don't because it's expensive.

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>>31433884
>the faster barrel twist of the projectile ensures accuracy

>>31433847
>Air rifles can have suppressors without NFA stamps

That cant be right. Any suppressor made for a .17 or .22 Cal air rifle I could just attach to my .17 HMR or .22lr. I'm sure the ATF has thought of that.

>>31433377
Seriously though don't use .22lr for self defense. Just asking to die.

>>31433921

A: that stuff is cheap as fuck. The subsonic sniper is ~13c / rd and the Colibri runs more like 8c
B: it's unequivocally better than a quiet airgun.

>>31433922

>What's a rifled bullet?

>>31433305
Not OP, but here's a thought:
What viable alternative do we have for small game? Something cheap and reloadable that wont destroy the game

>>31433724
>lol 9mm

>>31433974

I know where you're going with this but 22lr is not typically considered re-loadable. I mean you can with primer putty but it's a pain in the ass.

>>31433952
The caveat is that they must be factory suppressed. There are plenty of options, though.

>>31433897
You realize this is slower and lighter than a decent pellet fired from good air rifle, right?

>>31433961
24 grain pellets can be had at 1.3 to 1.5c/pellet. It's better, yeah. Why don't you buy .300 Blackout? It's better too.

>>31433990

>You realize this is slower and lighter than a decent pellet fired from good air rifle, right?

Good 22 air rifle hunting pellets are typically 15gr.

>24 grain pellets can be had at 1.3 to 1.5c/pellet. It's better, yeah. Why don't you buy .300 Blackout? It's better too.

Because the gap between 1.5c and 8c is pretty massive vs 8c vs 90-150c / rd. Plus the 22 is both more effective and won't destroy the game.

>>31433990

Also no one who takes air rifle shooting seriously is shooting faster than 900fps.

>>31433305
>not used by any military
It is used by the military, Israel uses the Sr 22 for their "less than lethal" option.

>useless for self defense
Ppl have killed moose, bear, grown ass men with the 22...sure it's not the best, you can still easily kill some one. Specially seeing at like 400 yards, the 22 still has enough power to easily go through half an inch of solid oak board (nothing impressive, that range and for such a small round it is) plus thousands of ppl already carry a 22 for CC.

>unreliable
What? Prob put thousands of 22 rounds down range, I never had a single problem. Never really heard of any problem with the 22 round, except for that stopping powah issue.

>not even cheap
For the most part yeah, plenty of places to find cheap 22. My area it is plentiful, for a box of 500 cheap shit, you'll spend 20 bucks out the door.

You're pretty retarded op, clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Why don't you actually go google shit, instead of making a stupid thread.

>>31433305
there are fuckers who think .22 will be currency Post SHTF...

These people need to be sterlized

>>31434036
>typically 15gr.
Sure thing buddy, whatever you say. In a decent power rifle that'll go supersonic.

I never, ever had a problem with something not dropping dead when I shot it. For small game, an air rifle and a .22 LR are pretty much the same thing, only cheaper.

>>31434046
Maybe you should stop using 15g pellets.

>>31434068

So you're shooting a heavy pellet out of a fast air gun and telling me it's suppressed subsonic 22 quiet?

>>31433724
>.32 S&W more likely to incapacitate the target than .44 Magnum
I'm sorry, what?

>>31434092
If it's a suppressed air rifle, yeah.

>>31434162

You're probably still supersonic.

>>31434046
>no one who takes air rifle shooting seriously is shooting faster than 900fps.
Why hasn't anyone designed supersonic pellets yet, anyway?

>>31434162
>>31434175

And if not, I'd love to see your ballistic data.

>>31434175
Nope. You might be thinking of spring noise from springer rifles, by the way. Gas piston rifles are much more silent.

>>31434187
I don't have a chronograph, but lighter pellets are definitively supersonic.

My rifle is rated for 1200fps with the cherrypicked 9-10 grain lightweight alloy pellets.

Pellets in the 20-30 grain range are subsonic and pretty accurate.

>>31433518
you gotta compare 2 things:

> reality of plinking with friends
> fantasy of fighting and dying alone

you got a floofy straw man thing going.

and, in every one of the fighting scenarios/fantasies I can imagine, cheap training en mass and lo-cost suppression are more valuable that whatever wet dream wakes you up in the middle of the night clutching your semi-flacid peener

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>>31433970
>a rifled bullet in a rifled barrel

Please be trolling

>>31433738
Why? he shits in a bag no longer gang bangs and walks with a cane. At least he did last time I saw him.

Sure at one point he was a coked up 17 year old 240 lb 6'1 mexican gang banger, but now I haven't seen him in a few years.

His brother took a slug to the chest, died instantly, and he took one to the gut before lighting the niggers up with mac10 of all things. The nineties were a rough time for my neighborhood.

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>>31433305

>>31433802
Me too. I fucking love that gun.

>>31433836
I don't know, but it makes it quiet as can be without a suppressor. I shoot mine all the time without any earpro. If you have plugs in and aren't paying attention you won't even hear me shoot it.

>>31433305
>Not even cheap
Why do you lie on the internet?

>>31434522
I should mention that's with standard velocity ammo too. With subsonics the only sound it would probably make would be coming from the trigger mechanism.

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>>31433377
>Israel uses .22lr for crowd control

Christ no wonder Palestinians hate them so much

>>31433974

.410, 20ga, 12ga

Shotguns are better for small game in general and are not wasteful with appropriate shot size

>>31433305
>useless for self-defense
At point blank? How so?

>>31434602
Someone's gotta keep those animals in line. I seem to remember their official reason for ordering a bunch of 10/22's was for "pest control" or something similar.

>>31433724
This is fake and gay

>>31435109
Just reverse image search it for the source.

>>31433377
>Doesn't do anything that .17hmr doesn't do better

>>31433397
You got sauce on that? No? Didn't think so.

>>31433305
It doesn't blow squirrels in half.

>>31434326
>>a rifled bullet in a rifled barrel
this used to be a thing

hundreds of years ago

but it was still briefly a thing

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>>31433305
STFU OP this thing is adorable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijQQV-LX2xM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijQQV-LX2xM

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>>31433724

I appreciate that guys work, but...

> Posting percentages without actual sample sizes
> Having no idea if there were anywhere near enough .22lr shootings to represent a viable estimate for the total shooting population

A low number of samples might also explain why the somewhat anemic .32acp performed so well in that sampling.

>>31435511
kikes don't use .17

>>31433490
Where are these mythical cheap ammos you talk of. AT BEST over in cali it's
22LR for 11 cents a round
9mm for 20 cents a round
.223 for 25 cents a round

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>>31433491
>Fudds, literally who cares about hunting. Cancer of the gun world.

>>31436459
I just bought 500 rounds at my lgs for .08/r after tax.

extremely cheap (compared to literally everything else), so it's great for plinking for hours without too big of a hole in your wallet. also good for small game (but apparently only fudds hunt so that doesn't matter at all). also guns in .22lr are usually pretty cheap. also cheaper boolet = more shooting = more experience = new shooter becomes better shooter. basically no recoil allows them to work on the basics, and subconciously adapt to recoil.

>>31433491
Sounds like someone's a little bum bothered over the fact that hunters actually get out and do something with their guns. What's the matter, son, upset that no one takes your operator status seriously? Angry that the men who actually go out with their guns don't buy into your faggot edgelord bullshit?

Maybe you should shoot yourself in the head with a .22

After all, it's a worthless caliber that wont hurt you, right?

>>31433305
Because people like it.

Now fuck off.

>>31433491
>literally who cares about hunting. Cancer of the gun world.
Get the fuck out of here, you fucking underage mallninja.

>>31433305
>Useless for self defense

American 180 begs to differ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQFGmIY0a2o

>>31433518
You have never been in a fight. You never will be. The apocalypse isn't happening. Your training is worthless. Your money was wasted.

>>31434602
pretty sure it was a response to rock throwing

>>31433491
>His dad never took him hunting
Suburbs faggot detected

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>>31434602
I call it my kneecapper
>bull barrel
>9-24x scope
>threaded for quietly removing mini kebabs

>>31433305
Now that it's expensive it's pointless. When it was $1 for 50 rounds it was cool, now you might as well buy a bb/airshit gun.

It's not a good survival weapon. Anything you can hunt with a .22 you can catch in a snare. You can carry a shit ton of snares for the weight/space of a .22 gun and it's ammo take up in your kit, and you'd catch way more food with that amount.

Completely pointless dead caliber. It was fun while it lasted, thanks obama.

>>31433491
>small game
>>Fudds, literally who cares about hunting. Cancer of the gun world.

How stupid are you?

>>31433953
you try getting a few of them fired into you. they work just fine. i kill boar with .22lr

>got first gun 10/22
>have a lot of .22 stored away
>literally never take it out because it's boring as fuck

I like real guns better

>>31434602

I'm pretty sure it's a step down from when they were using rubber bullets, but fucked up the charges for them so they basically ended up as giant shotgun slugs with a thin rubber coating.

There's a somewhat grisly xray with one in the back of some palestinian's skull

>>31436740
i'll take all your .22 to feed >>31436673

>>31433491
>m-maybe he's being ironic?

>be op
>plinking beer bottles with expensive 5.56
>be a fucking idiot

>>31433305
>>Not used by any military
literally idf

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>>31433305

>>31433557
>and that expansion was still pretty significant
It opened up to a 9mm in size at 25 yards. He said it translated to 7" of penetration at the end. Pretty piss poor. I much rather just drill a .22 sized hole though and get that extra few inches in exchange for not causing slightly more tissue damage
>Did you not see the hollow points go through 4 layers of denim at 300 yards
Oh you mean where the hollowpoint failed to expand and it got more penetration than the one at 25 yards? Yes I did.

>>31433305
Squirrels and such. (name that movie).

>>31433305
Who goes hunting for small game with a bazooka? My grandmother got shot by a .22. She said it hurt. (love you grandma)

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>>31433346
Is that everything you hunt with .22lr?

>>31433305
Some countries don't allow civilians to own ANY caliber that was once used by a military, this includes both 9mm and 5.56, so suddenly .22lr becomes practical.

>>31433491
>previously lists 9mm as meme cartridge
>suggests using it one post later
Here's your (you), now kys

>>31433824
>i can kill anything up to raccoon and stray dogs with a .22
My grandpa put down his horse with a .22lr. He said a .22 will kill anything if you use a rifle for better velocity and shoot the back of the head.

>>31433305
>>Useless for self defense
>outing yourself as a retard almost immediately

>>Unreliable
marginally less reliable than centerfire

>>Not even cheap
7cpr is about the cheapest youre going to find

>>31436459
http://ammoseek.com/
do they have laws about buying ammo online in commie shitholes?

isn't silenced .22lr used by some special forces groups sometimes or something?
I remember hearing that, might have been australia or new zealand

>>31433724
>lol only 44
>shoulda shot em with 32, the handgun caliber with the most stoppin powah

>>31433305
>Not used by any military
Why would you care about that?

>>31436584
>mallninja
I am not a ninja, merely a student of the art of Ninjitsu, and I prefer not to have status such as “Ninja” laid upon me, for as yet I am unworthy of the title. I will be completing my ninjisu training in a little over 8 months, and then I will be a Master of Ninjitsu, a true “Ninja”. But it is not my martial arts skills that make me so vital to the security of the mall, it is my tactical and strategic skills honed by years of intens on-site on the job training. My weapons skills are the envy of the squad.

>mfw buying a .22lr conversion kit for a FA rifle
>mfw I have no face

>>31433305
The only reason I recommend a .22 is for Rabbits...and shooting varmint/pests

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>>31433305

i dont need a .223 to punch holes in paper.

a .22lr can kill anything on earth with the right shot placement

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>>31440244
I know it's a bait, but this is fucking cancer

>>31433836
It does. My club did some chrono testing using several lengths of CZ 452. The shortest was a 16" Scout, the longest an 28" Ultra Lux with a 20" FS and 24" Trainer in the mix as well. Velocity increased up to about 22", then began to fall again at 24' with the 28" barrel drooping about 200 fps compared to the 22" barreled CZ452 American.

>>31433305
>most Western militaries have used it historically in suppressed weapons. US, UK, Germany, France, Italy, and Israel still use it in suppressed weapons for special operations.
>more people have been killed with .22lr than all other calibers combined (including both x39's and x54r), most popular murder and SD caliber in history
Ok it is unreliable.
>5-7cpr all day erryday online, as cheap as 3.5cpr occasionally on sale, more than 2x as cheap as next cheapest round (tulammo 9x19 @ 14.6cpr as of 10 seconds ago), more than 3x as cheap as next cheapest rifle caliber (5.45x39 @ 26cpr)

When a full day of shooting costs less than the McDonald's you got on the drive home it's cheap. It's proven itself quite lethal on basically every North American animal on 2 legs or more since 1887 (including a polar bear with 1 shot DRT) and the world record grizzly shot by Bella Twin). It's used by basically every respected military in the world. It's accurate and lethal to 200 yards on man-sized targets.

What's not to love?

>>31435511
>suppresses much better due to availability of subsonic ammo
>doesn't get completely assraped by a light breeze because >17gr bullet
>doesn't cost more than steel-cased 5.56
Does a lot of things better than .17hmr actually.

>>31433506
It was around 4-5cpr 10 years ago.

25 years ago it was less than a penny a round. I could buy 50-packs of Federal Hi Velocity for $0.47 after tax at the local gas station or full bricks of Winchester Super-X for $7.99+tax at Ace Hardware.

>>31433680
>buy Savage Mk1 for $99.99
>includes sling and case, comes with good peep sights
or
>buy Mossberg Plinkster for $129.99
>buy Simmons 8-Point 3-9x40 for $39.99, Allen rifle case for $9.99, and chicom AK sling for like five bux or use an old web belt for free and have a decently accurate scoped rifle with all accessories
checkmate

>>31433305
Because it's fun and it's my money?

>>31433728
>air rifle is better for small game
Except for the <40yd max range on all springers, the <20gr pellets getting BTFO by wind, utter lack of follow-up shots unless you got a thousand-dollar repeating PCP, and the fact that they're actually louder than a suppressed .22 by a fair margin.
>ammo is a lot cheaper
Not by a significant margin unless you're shooting Daisy run-of-the-mill .177's (which have dick-all for accurate range, dick-all for penetration, dick-all for expansion, and are inaccurate as shit by pellet standards).

Expect to pay between $10 and $12 for a 200ct tin of "good" .22cal pellets that are still less accurate, lighter, and less expanding than a 40gr .22lr bullet. Which puts them between 5 and 6 cents per, the same or more than cheap .22lr.

>and it'll kill game just fine
Squirrels, mice, cottontail rabbits, and maybe crows. Too bad I'll also shoot coyotes, jackrabbits, javelina, armadillos, and nutria with my .22lr. And people do routinely hunt fucking ALLIGATORS with .22lr.

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>>31433305

>>31433305
b8
b8
and more b8

>>31433990
>you realize this is slower and lighter than a decent pellet fired from a good air rifle, right?
Hunting pellets pretty much top out at 17gr for .22cal and less than 15gr for .177.

A "decent" air rifle is $250+ for a spring piston, and $700+ for a PCP. a "high end" .22lr bolt action is $200-250 and a "high end" .22lr semi is $300

Your "decent" hunting pellets are a nickel per. Same exact cost as "decent" hunting .22lr.

The .22lr will be quieter through a suppressed rifle, and the Super Colibri or SSS will be quieter through an unsuppressed rifle.

>24 grain pellets can be had at 1.3c/pellet
Fucking where? Cuz they're 6.4c/pellet at PyramydAir, and that's the single cheapest place I've found for anything airgun related that sells to the US.

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>>31433491
>Fudds, literally who cares about hunting. Cancer of the gun world.

>>31433305
Target shooting
also
>>31433346

>>31433724
indeed

>>31433305
On the real doe, I have not purchased or shot .22lr since like 2013. Feels bad man. I can't bring myself to spend $65.99 for a box of 500rnds of plinking. I pretty much use/buy 9mm like I used to .22lr.
It's cheaper and it's more fun in my opinion because I practice more often with my main pistol. However I stillness think.22 has its place and I probably got like 150rnds of it.

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>>31433305
because its fun, and it will kill in a pinch.

>>31436643
>tfw a suburbs fag born to two white collar parents
>tfw extent of my hunting experience was as a kid shooting a lizard in the head with a BB gun and then feeling bad for it and burying it
Now I own real guns but still no hunting experience

>>31440999
>I can't bring myself to spend $65.99 for a box of 500rds of plinking
Good news!
>https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/36452
>https://www.natchezss.com/federal-champion-target-22-lr-40-gr-sld-rimfire-ammunition-50-box.html
>http://www.ammomenllc.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=91&cPath=3#xml
>6cpr

>>31433305

Deer skull. seems like it does the trick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW2C3exp0R4

and a hog

https://youtu.be/NWZIFEMZamk?t=184

will it blend!?: Squirrels.

https://youtu.be/aL23PeCIYYo?t=55

Yes they will.

.22 is a dirt round that does the job. Dont buy shit and you wont get shit ya know?

1/10, agitated me enough to reply

>>31436459
Can you order ammo online over there, or did they cuck you out of that too? You can get .22LR as low as like 6 cents a round online.

>>31441148
not him but 20c for 9mm and 25c for 223 is pretty good prices, even online
not sure what the fuck he's going off about

>>31433305
Because it's fun to shoot and ideal to start beginners on so they're less likely to develop of flinch. And it is cheaper than about any other round I can think of.

>>31441153
20c for 9mm is high AF. Brass is 15cpr online in free America, and tulammo is 14cpr shipped.

25cpr for any .223/5.56 is extremely good, and makes me think he literally pulled numbers out of his ass.

>>31441179
where the hell are you getting 15c 9mm?

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>>31441035
>325rnd count
I got 500 for 20 bucks just a couple years ago. Idk enough time has not passed. I'm still not ready for the gouge.

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>>31433491
>Are all capable of handling a 9mm carbine
This
>small game
I use an air rifle

t. guy that bought 10,000rds of .22lr before Sandy Hook and haven't shot any out of that case because I'm still shooting from the two open 500rd boxes I already had.

>>31441186
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger
>4 results at or under 15cpr

>>31441199
>has literally been years
>"gouge"
I don't think that word means what you think it means

>>31433421
>CCI
>22lr
>hollow point
>high quality
kek

>>31441217
>remans or steel
oh
nevermind

>>31441243
It's 9mm
It's 15cpr or less

Why are you complaining?

>>31441249
the fact they are remans?

>>31433747
Frigg off tacticool overweight fantasy ERP faggot.

>>31441201
>has shot <1000rds of .22lr in almost 4 years
If you're that unintersted in the hobby why not just sell all your guns to fund whatever does tickle your trigger?

>>31441256
Go suck some more muslim cock yurofag.

Before I tell the EU your "air rifle" is 0.01J over its 20J legal maximum.

>>31441254
But they're not Freedom Munitions or Ultramax remans. So they're fine.

And the steel case is even cheaper. I thought /k/ had an unbridled love for steel case and anything russian?

>>31441264
>If you're that unintersted in the hobby
>implying .22lr is what I actually like to shoot

I mostly shoot 9mm and 7.62x39

>>31441264
He probably likes a) collect guns or b) doesn't like shooting 22LR

>>31441270
So divest yourself of your .22's and buy more 9mm or x39?

If you don't have a desire to shoot it, why are you in here bitching about it? Why does this even concern you?

>>31441271
If he likes collecting but not shooting, why is he in a thread bitching about the cost of the ammo he doesn't shoot?

>>31441269
only when it's a russian gun

>>31433305
But imagine the fun of rigging a gatling gun in .22lr. Now imagine using it in HD.

>>31441274
>So divest yourself of your .22's and buy more 9mm or x39?
Why? I like having 10,000rds of .22lr so I can make faggots like you buttflustered, and I can afford ammo I actually shoot regularly.

>Why does this even concern you?
Because I agree with OP, just like I assume you disagree with OP. This is a discussion, I own several .22lr guns and lots of .22lr. Just because my opinion might not be agreeable to yours doesn't mean my opinion is irrelevant to this conversation, you pretentious Bolshevik kike.

seems like 22 works pretty good for doing some shopping at your local mall

>>31433305
It's cheap as fuck and is great for bagging rabbits and possums.