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Bell V-247 Vigilant unveiling

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Bell unveiled a new group 5 UAV call the V-247 Vigilant.

Production as early as 2023 if anyone orders it.

>Vertical take off and landing, tricycle gear
>Can fold up and fit inside a DDG's hanger, Huey sized footprint
>Envisioned missions: ISR, EW, escort, C4, persistent fires

More details in the links below

http://www.bellhelicopter.com/news/press-release/2016/9/v247-vigilant
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/bell-unveils-v-247-vigilant-unmanned-tiltrotor-429616/
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/bell-takes-tiltrotor-technology-into-unmanned-realm
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I'm not sure how unmanned escorts would really work.
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Future.
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>>31428706
tilt rotors are shit, they aren't the future of anything
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>>31428480
Slave drone is basically a missile truck waiting for a target to be designated by co-pilot/gunner/crew chief? Could also do countermeasures and other useful things in sync with primary aircraft.
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>>31428815
Sikorsky, please.
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I wonder what engine they'll go for.
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>>31429371
> Straight outta ARMA
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Meanwhile at Northrop Grumman.
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>>31429371
Apparently they're looking to do a single turbine (who knows which) that powers two electric motors - less weight (probably), greater maintainability, greater efficiency.
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>>31429601
Seems pretty premature to announce this plane without an engine.
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>>31430295
Not really; think of the JSF, both the X-32 and X-35 didn't exactly have an engine; they did both use a modified F119, but it was unclear whether they would use the F135 or F136 in actual production.
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>>31429439

what the fuck is this mutant
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>>31430517
A US Navy initiative to have a group 4/5 UAV that doesn't need a runway to take off and land.
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>>31430517
The US Navy wants something with the endurance and payload of a Predator or Reaper (I can't remember which) and the ability to land, not just on LHDs, but also on helipads on destroyers, etc.
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>>31430545
That's rather ambitious.
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>>31430561
Indeed. Cool as well.
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Has a platform been selected for the MQ-25 yet?
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>>31429439
That looks like some nazi shit.
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Tail sitters just crack me up.
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>>31430790
The Reich shall rise again.
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>>31431293
>helipad reserved for tail sitter drone
>highest deck at the rear of the ship
>aka the poop deck
>DESIGNATED SITTING DECKS
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>>31428359
>>31428480
>>31428706
>>31429371

Neat.

>>31429439

Why.png
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So how many weapons can we pack on to this thing?
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So they scrapped the V-280?
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>>31431809
This is a drone to go along with it, dipshit. Literally the first reply in the thread shows it escorting a V-280.
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>>31431293
>>31429439

these really need a clitoral lay out - canted slightly up wings with little thick legs underneath and near the back that swing out that it can tail land on.
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>>31431809
>>31431832

It's literally a V-280 with the cockpit removed and replaced with drone shit, like the drone brrrrrt
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>>31428706

That's a lot of unemployed aviators....
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>>31432318
The days of Top Gun are over, Cyberdyne and Terminators are the future of warfare.
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>>31432318


Who'll go into civil aviation, driving down wages in that industry and thus lowering overheads for commercial airlines that'll be passed directly onto you [spoiler]if you're a shareholder or CEO[/spoiler]
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>>31430774
Nope, they've only just barely figured out what they want it to do; there's still a competition to be had.

>>31432169
Not literally, the V-247 is much smaller than the V-280 and uses a much different engine system; V-280 has turbines in the wingtips with tilting gearboxes, V-247 has a turbine in the fuselage with tilting electric motors.
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>>31429601
I think it would be difficult to achieve lower weight due to the addition of a generator, but certainly better efficiency and maintainability would result.
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>>31432437

That's already the case. I was a CW2 OH-58 pilot. The MQ-1C put us out of business. I had the choice of going to be a UAV warrant or going to the civilian sector and making $35,000/yr along with a thousand other Kiowa guys. I went UAV. It's literally not even worth flying on the outside.
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>>31435503
>making $35,000/yr along with a thousand other Kiowa guys.

It can't possibly be that shit can it?

Do you at least get to work from the states or do you still get deployed anyways?
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>>31435574

It is certainly that shit. I interviewed with a company to fly Alpha Chucks which is literally what we trained on for flight school. I have 1,500 hours (or close enough) and they wanted 3,000 hours and a commercial license. They said they could wave the hours if I got the commercial. I agreed and they offered me $36,000 and no benefits. I accepted the UAV position 2 days later.
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>>31435574
Oh, and we still get deployed. Which is fine because I like deployment better than garrison.
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>>31430774
>>31434732 (me)
Actually, quick little update, Boeing and Lockheed have both received a little over $43 million each for 'risk reduction' for the CBARS program. That probably means that they've passed down-select and it'll be one of their designs that wins (for the sake of not having to exit the fighter [and similar jet] market, I hope Boeing wins it)
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>>31435503

Damn dude, I knew it was bad when my buddy got a job flying Air Canada regional CRJ shitboxes for $16/hour..
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>>31435901
>Damn dude, I knew it was bad when my buddy got a job flying Air Canada regional CRJ shitboxes for $16/hour..

All that pilot glamour is just a myth aint it.
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>>31435956
Depends. The guys who fly the big 100+ seaters generally make bank.
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>>31431469
>Not having four rotors for flaming flying swastikas
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>>31435956

Not for commercial airline pilots - the problem is that there's not a huge civilian chopper pilot job market (besides air ambulances, police and news choppers there's not a huge number of uses for helicopters in civvie life), which means you need a lot more than 2,000+ hours to really make bank or negotiate your pay up.

By contrast Commercial airline pilots make about 4-5 times that with only 1,000 hours, thanks in large part because they are in the air nearly constantly.

Actually thinking about it; Would it be true to say that civilian pilot pay scales proportional to the distance travelled per flight?
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>>31428359

When is congress finally going to step in and tell the Marines they can't buy any new aircraft until they have replaced every single AAV with a modern vehicle?
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>>31436313
Because Congress stopped them from getting one last time
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>>31436313
Marines make do.
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>>31436313

Dude, it's got a natural low polycount though, it'll run super smoothly in CODA86, even if there's a bazillion of them on the server!
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>>31435956
>16 canuck bucks an hour
jesus, might as well flip burgers
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>>31436404
cuz it didn't even work and it was gonna cost 20 million a unit
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>>31436313
why not just replace them with the M113 Gavin? Greatest fighting vehicle of all time in front of us just waiting to be used
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>>31436951
It's too powerful. The Marines wouldn't be able to handle that much firepower.
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>>31436951
It only has a pintle mounted storm bolter
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Just like my C&C and GitS.
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