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AR15s are gay

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>>31406226

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>>31406236
Not much more to discuss; I asked how much cash he wanted with it and he said $500, wouldn't go down past $450. He's a tard.

>>31406226
first post best post tbqh famalam

>>31406249
Well, at least you still have your baby. Was it some old fudd type?

>>31406205
HSP Thorntail offset or Arisaka offset, and why (besides "because Haley").

Also open to alternatives.

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>>31406261
Thankfully I never met him, that exchange was from email. I offered a few different things (that made it almost even, instead of a huge advantage to me). It eventually came to him basically pouting and saying "Nope. No longer interested. Bye."

Honestly I just want a pistol and I'm impatient but it would be far more inconvenient for me to tradea this away. I can get a pistol any time and I have many options as far as pistols go that I'd be okay with.
If I traded this, since I'm not 21 I can't buy a lower from a dealer (must be private sale). There's almost no chance I'd find a dedicated colt 9mm lower to buy in a private sale, whereas finding a pistol I like is pretty likely.

>>31406286
As shitty as it is the guy was a cunt about it, sounds like he did you a favor.

What state are you in? If you're in/near the midwest I've got a pretty good network of people here, might be able to locate someone that's both got something you want and willing to deal with you.

>>31406325
Nah I'm in West Virginia. I'm from Maryland and I'm excited to finally be able to get the guns I want and I'm impatient about it, but I'll eventually be able to find something I like.
I probably would've regretted trading this because I really do love shooting it, and I'd like to SBR it some day.

>>31406346
What do you do for work, tripfriend?

>>31406419
NDA's and stuff for my main job so I can't really discuss.. but my firearm money comes strictly from my animation commissions.

Appreciate the offer of helping though. You know anyone that has a decent AK or PTR for a good price? I'd like a 5.45 AK but I'd settle for a 7.62.

>>31406285
Which specific mounts are you talking about and for what rail?

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>>31406285
My rifle has a Thorntail for my M951 and it'd nice and not too expensive. Would recommend.

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>>31406285
I just got a Gear Sector for my M592v. It attaches to the top rail so you can go 1:30 or 10:30. I like it.

They make mounts for the Scouts as well as simple railed ones I think. Here's them all .
https://www.gearsector.com/browse/category/mounts/flashlight-mounts/

The pic is the scout model.

Sorry if wrong thread, but total AR newfag here looking to purchase first one. I has guns, but want to has AR before they start banning shit.

Where should I start gents? Build from scratch (I really like the engraved lowers I see around) or go to local gun store and shell out for a built one/branded one? Also, Wisconsin reporting.


TL,DR
I want an AR, what do?

>>31406773
If you don't care about resell as much (and you want it cheaper) building is the way to go
that said, if you are looking to spend some cash, buying prebuilt higher dollar rifles will yield you proprietary parts (long lasting bolts, better ergos etc)
I would't buy a prebuilt unless it is dd quality+

>>31406785
I want to spend maybe around $1k on the rifle. Ideally I'd be in about $1500 and have the rifle, few hundred rounds of food, and as many mags as I can get

>>31406773
get lower
buy everything else later

>>31406801
what length barrel?
I prefer 16 midlengths
If you get a BCM upper ~550
PSA PREMIUM BCG ~100
anderson lower 60
lpk 50
magpul stock ~40
mbus pro ~100

>>31406801
if you spent a little more you could have a jizz trigger and b5 enhanced (sopmod)
you could trade the magpul stock for a bravo if you wanted a more sopmodish stock also
leaves you around $400 bucks for ammo/mags etc
If you are looking for a cheap optic I'd recommend the aimpoint pro(~370)

>>31406831
>>31406841
Thanks for response, I'm looking to be able to reach out and touch somebody one day so 16"/18" barrel is a good start for me. I have a spare 3x9 leupold off one of my deer rifles to start with, just need scope rings.

I like the flat top uppers with picatinny and the barrel length hand guards I see a lot of you using that are picatinny on all 4 sides.

I get to thinking about building, but then see jackasses on arms list dropping completed ones for $600-800. Like this guy: https://www.armslist.com/posts/5866740/madison-wisconsin-rifles-for-sale--5-45x39--ar15

Thoughts?

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>>31406879
>I'm looking to be able to reach out and touch somebody one day

>>31406879
that particular one is 5.45x39 which is not really what you want (unless of course you do want to shoot 5.45). if you just want an AR and don't care what it is then buy a premade. if you want to play gun legos then you want to build it up yourself and get the parts that you want to get. if you get a premade and replace parts you'll probably end up with a bunch of leftovers to the point you can almost make a whole new gun.

>>31406893
That's more or less the direction I'm leaning, I like the idea of having several uppers and maybe 1 or 2 lowers.

Sorry for all the questions, but what's a good starting point of going premade?
Just want to make sure I don't end up with a lemon/pay too mach. This guy here is selling a couple at what I think is a reasonable price. Just have no clue which one I should be more interested in if it even matters
https://www.armslist.com/posts/5762500/madison-wisconsin-rifles-for-sale--colt-csr-or-m-p-ar-rifle-

Are there any other ridiculous AR accessories besides the can cannon and golf ball launcher muzzle attachments?

>>31406915
My buddy bought the can cannon.
Would pay money to see it used in chimp out situation
>no ballistics
>only evidence is coke cans

>>31406906
"oem" guns like aero precision or bcm ones you can get from brownells
colt makes "oem" guns too
they don't have a stock or handguard on them so you can buy one you like
PSA makes cheap rifles but they have slow shipping times

>>31406906
I have been looking at Colt and M&P. They both make some nice AR-15's.
M&P Sport II has a pretty good entry price for a basic rifle.
Colt LE6920 seems to be slightly higher quality entry point.

Those are the two I'm looking at. I like the barrel on the colt more, so if I can find a good deal locally or get them to order one in for a fair price I'm probably getting the Colt.

>>31406930
I just contacted the seller about the M&P, it looks good and is priced pretty nicely so I can afford to feed it and me.
Now where do /k/ get bulk 556?

>>31406942
Cheaper than dirt

>>31406942
You need to think about if you are gonna put a rail on it and stuff, those are carbine lengths and you will just shoot that ammo out in a couple of weeks
I highly recommend you just save up a bit

>>31406942
I'm not /k/ I have just been looking at AR's recently preparing to buy one.
I'm looking at Federal American Eagle 55 Grains.

Brass casing sounds better than steel because it's easier on your barrel.
Also I heard Wolf is dirty and will wear your weapon out quickly.

M&P barrel is a 1:9 twist. I can't get anything definitive but I have read that 40 grain may or may not be reliable. 50+ grain is recommended, and 55 grain seems to be the most popular anyway.

Other than that any ammo should be fine. Just read reviews if in doubt. Compare prices and calculate the price per bullet.

>>31406957
You're probably right, it's late and I'm impatient sometimes. I've been thinking about buying one for a long ass time (was actually going back and forth between a mini14/30, AK, etc before I settled on an AR). I'm worried that guns are going to come up during the debate and Hitlery will start talking gun grabbing and people will start running to the stores

>>31406985
1. casings have nothing to do with barrels
2. Wolf is dirty, but it's not gonna kill you to spray some clp in there every now and then
3. 1 and 9 is fine
4. yes 55 grain is the most common plinker grain
Wolf gold from sgammo, you can thx me later
if you can shoot steel, just get steel, an extractor is like $5

>>31406985

SGammo, get wolf gold. It's the best cheap xm193 clone right now. Made in Taiwan and it's brass. About 32cpr delivered.

Colt is nice and holds value. If you want a freefloat rifle consider spending a little more for a BCM or DD upper or complete rifle. If you want to learn how to upgrade your rifle as you go, then get the basic bitch colt.

>>31406991
I impulse bought a colt 6920, crap finish and fitment (although a nice shooting reliable gun)
don't buy a colt please

>>31406957
What barrel length does Anon suggest?

>>31407040
I prefer 16s

>>31406993
1. You are right. lacquer coated casings aren't popular anymore. That's good to learn.
However, steel casings are always going to be dirtier than brass due to how the metal expands.

3. I never said it wasn't fine. I mentioned the twist has a relation to the ammunition used. Specifically the grain.

Don't want to argue wolf. It's just not my preference.

I will say though that cheaper ammo does wear out barrels faster.

I saw a test conducted that showed running about 6,000 rounds of wolf, brown bear, or tula was about the life of the barrel.
running 10,000 rounds of federal and the barrel was still in tact.
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

>>31407203
and saving 500 dollars in the process of shooting that will buy u a 1/2 moa barrel from the best manufacturer in the country
if you are on a budget and don't reload steel is the best

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in

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Sup nerds.

>>31407428
It's that a parts bin build

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>>31407448
It's my pistol plus all the accessories I've collected over the years. Most of which came out of tac pack

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What are the minimal tools needed to put together a lower?

Also, does the castle nut REALLY need to be staked or is blue loctite enough

>>31407469
that's better.

>>31407486
Pencil, razor blade, punch set/channel locks, a hammer. Castle nut doesn't need to be stacked nor should you use loctite.

>>31407486
don't stake it, doesn't need it

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>>31407486
>Also, does the castle nut REALLY need to be staked or is blue loctite enough
dont do either

>>31407495
Punch set OR channel locks?

>>31407511
Yes. I also forgot the grip screw, you will need a bit for that. Can't remember the size off the top of my head.

>>31407504
>>31407520
Why don't you stake your castle nut?

>>31407645
It's not necessary and I don't want to keep a box of end plates around.

>>31407645
>>31407651
this

just torque it down and monitor it. still havent had one back off on me

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>>31407669
I want a FNX-45

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>>31407495
Indeed.
I still haven't decided on a light. I don't really want to spend more than $100

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I want to buy a good but budget M16A2 clone. What are my options? I'll take an A3 as well, I can always get the A2 upper down the road.

>>31407495
>>31407500
>>31407504
>>31407520
Thank you

>>31407695
Go with an A4

So I'm building an ar and I'm new to the platform and I want to know if NiB BCGs are a meme or a tactical fad. Are they actually worth getting?
Is there any reason I would buy an aim surplus NIB bcg over a psa premium bcg

31407486
I didn't stake mine for two years after getting my middy, not one single issue came up. I did stake it a couple months ago after getting a new buffer tube, but only because of reasons.

>>31407770
Go Cryptic, F-1, BCM, or LMT

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>>31407770
PSA premium is the best bang/buck BCG out there. I have a standard and NiB. I don't notice any difference. You're fine either way.

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>>31407780
I'm about to order a KAC QD end plate I think and I haven't decided whether or not I'll stake it.

>>31407739
np

>>31407770
psa premium is great. NiB is a meme coating that does nothing.

>>31407797
>Cryptic is a meme coating that does nothing

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I see the SOPMOD stock is used a lot. What does everyone like/ dislike about it? I'm pretty happy with the basic stock but it is difficult getting a good cheek weld in a PC. Will the SOPMOD stock help with this?

>>31407782
>>31407797
>>31407806
Is the reason you buy a nickel boron coated bcg is because it's easier to clean? Is that it?

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>>31407818
Not familiar with the SOPMOD, but I like your AR. That's all.

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>>31407818
cuz its comfy
>>31407830
u buy it cuz ur gucci

>>31407806
but that's wrong

>>31407818
Yes

>>31407830
The reason you buy it is because you fell for the meme

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>>31407830
Basically. It makes an easy job a little easier.

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>>31407752
Assuming you're talking about the Colt:
>$1,100

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>>31407818
I don't really care for the waffle stock. The only thing going for it is that's it's slim and light. But it sucks. I also hate the A2 grip. That said, I do like the look of the waffle stock and A2 grip on an M4, I just don't like using them.

>>31407871
FN M16A4 collectors series

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Got shit straightened out with my bank, remembered my trip, and got my ammo headed on its way to my doorstep

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>>31406205
I'm sad they didn't reply

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how to mount a forward QD sling attachment point on a classic sig m400 without getting a new grip?

can I replace the front sling loop thing with a qd magpul part like how they make one for the rear?

>>31406205

>that spork

tasteful

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>>31408124
kek
anyone got rule 34 of the two? send that in

>>31408133
>M400

>>31406773
You should have started a few months ago. At least you're thinking about it BEFORE any major election events take place and not after.

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>>31408187
Oh jesus that's a bad idea

We don't wanna piss off the gods of AR's

Hey /arg/. I have a question. Im building an AR-15 and i need advice on gas systems. Im looking at getting a piston gas system but i dont know what brands are good. Any advice?

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>>31408196
>piston

>>31408227
Whats wrong with a piston system?

>>31408187
ignore the gun brand and focus on how to mount a forward qd sling attachment without one of those grips to mount it on

>>31408283
>one of those grips
What do you mean by this?

There's the MI quad rails with built in QD mounts.

>>31408262
Literally everything

>>31408335
Thank you oh wise one for clearing that up.

>>31406226
Just because you only have your one fucking gun that you bought and later determined was shit, doesn't mean you need to come hate in other fucking threads. Quit trying to convince yourself and others that you made a good purchase, because you obviously did not.

>>31408262
carrier tilt, added weight, solution to a non-existent problem

>>31408363
Enjoy your meme gas system and carrier til

>>31408363
>lets get the most customizable standardized rifle that exists!
>b-but so many people have them...
>i know, i'll be super fucking snowflakey and get a piston system!
>for most of my interchangeability i can get no actual benefits!
>being proprietary makes me better than others!

If you want a piston AR get an AR18 derivative.

What's the best brand of wheelchair to go with an AR-15?

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>>31408363
See>>31408385 >>31408386

>>31408407
I don't know, ask PB

>>31408385
>>31408386
>>31408402
>>31408409
Don't forget (incredibly high) added cost for minimal to no benefit

>>31408304
>What do you mean by this?
like one of those magpul mlock grips or quad rail things or whatever

can I just replace this part here with a qd point?

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>>31408431

>>31407645
It's a thing because grunts. They fuck with shit till it comes loose. And if that comes loose, the buffer detent plunger and spring inevitably get lost. Which isn't a good thing. And usually where grunts are, there aren't lgs around.

>>31408402
>lets get the most customizable gun in existence!
>but dont customize it to fit you or you will be a special snowflake

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>>31408447

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post cringe AR's I want a folder of them for shitpost reasons

>>31408482
There is literally not one valid reason to get a piston AR aside from wanting to be different. It's a waste of money with no benefit.

If you want a piston AR, buy a Sig MCX or something. If you build one, or buy any other piston AR, you will be rightfully ridiculed because you bought a literal meme.

>>31408385
From what I heard the carrier tilt is only slightly more, weight is only slightly more, and the gun runs cooler and cleaner

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>>31408431
>>31408447
I- I'm not even sure what to say right now

>>31408386
Cool. Thanks for explaining why it is a bad system.

>>31408495
>runs cooler and cleaner
>not a good reason

>>31408498
>carrier tilt is only slightly more
It's non-existent in DI
>weight is only slightly more
Ounces equal pounds
>gun runs cooler and cleaner
You'll have more heat and dirt up front and throughout the piston. I'd rather my gun shit where it eats and clean off my BCG every once in a while than have to deal with cleaning a piston and tube.

There is literally no added benefit to going with a piston system. DI a best.

>>31408526
It doesn't. Where do you think the shit and the heat go? They just magically don't exist because it's not DI? Is that what you think?

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>>31408489

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>>31408509
Multiple people have told you

>>31408385
>>31408402
>>31408386
>>31408420
>>31408495

>>31408498
No

>>31408536
The hot gas is pushed out farther up you nigger. Its not a hard concept to understand. The gas leaves earlier so less heat is transferred back into the bolt carrier.

>>31408498
there is effectively no carrier tilt in an in-spec DI AR, you can search for carrier tilt wear - it can completely wreck your buffer tube and retainer pin over time. you'll find plenty of people claiming
>1000 rounds through my piston AR and no problems
not realizing 1000 rounds on an AR is just barely breaking it in, of course theres no wear. the gun runs "cleaner" in the sense that the BCG will be nearly spotless, but you'll have to clean out the piston system which is much more tedious. the weight may only be about half a pound more than a comparable DI system but adding a half pound on a ~7 lb rifle is noteworthy, especially when the benefits are nominal if existent at all.

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>>31408483
>>31408508
?
I have a qd point on back here and want one in the front

>>31408545
Only one guy here has actually explained good reasons. Everyone else is just saying its bad because its bad. You have to actually explain stuff if you want people to take you seriously.>>31408573

>>31408573
Thank you for explaining.

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>still no shipping notification for sfmb

come on matt d, get it together

>>31408580
You shouldn't be allowed to have guns

>>31408586
No... We have told you why, please kys

>>31408613
>still no shipping notification for MBT

come on Mark L, get it together

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>>31408613
i ordered mine monday, its arriving tomorrow :^)

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>>31408626

these truly are trying times, friend.

>>31408619
>ask about something
>get told its a meme
Great explaining there faggot. Really solid evidence showing why I am wrong.

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>>31408641

ordered mine sunday.

still says "new"

>>31408653
Fine, I don't think anyone here cares. Go waste money on a solution to a nonexistent problem and create a problem for yourself. I bet carrier tilt will be all the rage next year and you'll be ahead of the curve.

>>31408665
At least yours doesn't say "backorder"

The "I got plenty of time" option pricing was too good to pass up though.

>>31408196
>piston
Always anon with the memes.

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>>31408653
See
>>31408564
>>31408573
>>31408527
>>31408495
>>31408420
>>31408402
>>31408385
This is the last time I'm doing this, if you still don't understand then you're too fucking stupid to own an AR

>>31408665
shoot him an email. i called him to check if it was in stock before i ordered so maybe the fact that we spoke made him process the order quicker.

Link to vid?

Requesting that next /arg/ is paralysis edition

>>31408749
no thats mean and uncalled for

>>31408774
>mean and uncalled for
>arg
Pick both

>>31408802
Doesn't always have to be that way

>>31408653
Like a dozen times in this thread you've been told why piston ARs are a shitty gimmick, and then you still cram your head up your ass. This is why hardly anyone bothers spoon feeding you and your brethren on this issue, you're all convinced the H&K marketing memes about DI being more dirty and less reliable and even after getting repeated explanations as to why it's retarded you still won't face facts.

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>>31408695

possible. sent him a mail so we'll see.

>>31408811
Oh I know, but it sure doesn't feel like it most days.

My barrel, upper, and bcg are out for delivery, so my first rifle will be completed this afternoon. Sitting at work is killing me right now

>>31408879
it doesn't appear to be killing you fast enough

>>31408879
take the day off

>>31408903
You'd rather me die quickly, than over the course of 30 years as an empty shell who sold his soul working 9-5 in a cubicle to pay off student loans?

>have to do a bunch of back and forth driving
>almost no gas stations have gas
>the ones that do only have 87
>my foot is made of lead
Well, this sucks but my h3 buffer arrives today

>>31408948
m8, I'm living that hell. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

>>31408972
I thought the gas problem was only farther south

>>31409011
What did you go to school for

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>>31408489
Have mine

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>>31409020
I haven't had any issues in SC.

>>31409020
I was just going undecided when I was younger. Moved around the country, gained a lot of work experience. I landed a pretty good paying job but it's a soul killing job. Now I'm back in school for Emergency Management and Homeland Security. Not sure if I'm going to try and get a gig with a FEMA or a 3 letter alphabet soup agency or go non-profit.

>>31409035
do you have a pic in profile?

>>31408972
I'm not having any trouble getting 93. I hope it stays that way.

Opinions on Velocity triggers?

>>31409139
They seem like a pretty good trigger for the price

>>31409035
weird

>>31409056
fema would be neat

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Will ammo prices go down after the election

>>31409020
So did I

>>31409173
Nope. 100 bucks a round for 223.

>>31409139

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/04/jeremy-s/ar-15-drop-in-trigger-roundup/

>>31408879
>Undeliverable as addressed
>Being returned if appropriate information is available

Just fuck my shit up usps

>>31408774
What? It's representative of pb's struggles with being handicapped

Sounds like the dude that got capped by the cops did indeed have a handgun drawn, and would not comply with orders to drop it. Figured I'd make an update since we were discussing it last night.

>>31409241
How very white of you to bring this up.

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>>31409241

DINDU NUFFIN

>>31409241
Then why did they say he was unarmed

>>31409303
Earlier today.

>>>/wsg/1311012

>>31409303
That was false information given by his family, which was spread around by the media in the absence of a statement from police.

>>31409303
Because that's what they always say, its the only narrative that helps the cause of the SJWs and dindus.

>>31409261
I try

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>>31408196
Don't go piston.

Bump for rail suggestions.
$200 budget
10.5"-11" long
Keymod or Quad
Lightweight

Thanks!

Also taking suggestions on a full size 9mm
Prefer hammer fired.

Thoughts on the H&K P30 with the LEM trigger?
Maybe a Sig 226?
CZ P-09?

>>31409333
P226 or USP imo.

>>31409333
Would the KMR be a dumb suggestion?

>>31409333
Larue 11"

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>>31409333

the 12" fortis rev 2 weighs 7.8 ounces

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>>31409360
Not a bad suggestion, I just forgot to include that the KMR is specifically off my list.

Thanks.

>>31409353
I want a USP, they're just a little pricey for me.

>>31409241
Charlotte or tucson

>>31409504
Tulsa, not Tucson

And i think he's talking about Charlotte.

>>31409333
every suggestion that can be made has most likely already been made. you should save your shekels and get a DD lite rail or a URX4 keymod

>>31408227
>>31408335
>>31408687
Way to prove how fucking pretentious and worthless you faggots are, as always. It'd be too easy to just help a new person out for you shit bags wouldn't it? I'm glad this is the only thing you've got going for yourselves

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>>31409333
Beretta 92 is fun. As said before, USP and 226 are good to go. Also look into the Beretta px4. I had one and traded a guy for a gun I later sold. I wish I had the Px4 back. It's soft shooting by 9mm standards and looks like a future gun.

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>>31409521
There are a lot of companies out there making AR parts, especially rails. I'm positive there are more out there that I don't know of.

Sorry to keep asking, but I still haven't found a rail yet.

>>31409540
Brokeback_mountain.jpg

>>31409526
its 4chan my dude, dont expect too much

>>31409540
why are you so opposed to KMR again? definitely the best budget keymod option

>>31409540
Cool tribal tattoo. What tribe do you belong to?

>>31408196
Building piston uppers can be more problematic than they're worth. If you're set on having a piston gun, it may make more sense to buy complete than to put one together. LMT, HK, LWRC, SIG, and PWS all make piston uppers that are well received.

This of course is assuming that you are ignoring the downsides of a piston gun and still want one

>>31406922
Does it shoot them empty, or can it shoot full soda cans?

>>31409546
>any time two males are together something gay must happen
Anon are you projecting?
>>31409563
Looks Celtic to me.

>>31408196
Honestly if you wanted to go pistol I'd go LMT, who have developed an anti-carrier roll setup.

Letsego is in Las Vegas and about to go find some gun stores let's see if the have an SFMB on stock

>>31409579
Is there any reason why you're tripping?

What does ARG think of the idea of a from scratch SAPR in 6.5 Creedmoor as a spotter's rifle (companion to a Ruger Precision Rifle with the same chambering)?

An 18 inch barrel won't take full advantage of the round's powder charge but I wouldn't want anything longer than that if the spotter is the one headed into rooms first to make sure they're clear before setting up a hide.

Has anybody assembled a similar setup? Is there any other way to set an AR up for success at 500+ meter use beyond the obvious: using an adequate chambering, not over-torquing the barrel, using a free float handguard, and generally choosing quality parts?

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>>31409526
Dude we literally just have your best interest at heart. Piston ARs aren't the kind of thing you want to build. They have many flaws and the only piston ARs that are really worth the money are the prebuilt ones. The H&K416 comes to mind.

>>31409527
I had a PX4 in .45
I liked it a a lot, but I'm trying to get a pistol I haven't had before. They do look like futurist anime detective guns.

>>31409551
Primarily because the 13" one is too long and the 10" is too short, and because everyone has one.

>>31409563
Not me, but my buddy is Irish. It is a Celtic weave.

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>>31409579
Wow might actually be a good person.

>>31409595
Are you speaking in the third person?
Visiting gun stores while traveling is fun.

>>31409643
Sounds pretty cool.

>>31409595
Find me a fde warden pls

AR Platform rifles a shit.

>>31409670
you're going to end up with a meme rail. have you looked at SLR and 2A armament

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>>31409720
Hadn't heard of them till now. Going to check it out. Just so you know my struggle man, if you google "Keymod AR rail" you don't find shit.

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>>31409068

>>31409687
>Not talking in the third person?

Non autist get out reeeeeeeee

>>31409695
If I find one I'll pick it up for me sry

>>31409695
>Find me a fde warden pls

If I go down to my LGS and they have one, I'll sell it to you for $250

>>31409824
;_;

>>31409838
kys

>>31409857
Fine, I'll keep it for myself.

>>31406729
I need both a Scout and a ring mount, each in both keymod and mlok.

>>31406744
Thanks for the suggestion, they look solid, but I need both keymod and mlok. Whole reason I'm changing is it's going on a pair of SBRs and I need to clear off the top rail for a sight.

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well, my fiber optic tube is gonna get replaced and shipped this week.
maybe i'll wait until next week to go to the rage.

>>31409895
>inb4 you don't get it because the rioting niggers set fire to the truck

Then you can go to the rage.

>>31409948
nah, usps is good for me

>>31409895
>that before pic
Eesh, do they all do that? Why? Is it dry rot?

>>31409954
I prefer UPS

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>>31409720
I found an SLR rail I like. Are they decent?
It is $250, anything else in that price range I should consider?

It is the perfect length, 10.7" which is a big plus.

>>31409960
paint stripper

>>31409314
>He dindu nuthin! He was unarmed!!
>Evidence shows he pulled a shotgun on cops.
>It doesn't matter!! It was all the cops/whitemale supremacy/insert anything but BLM. / Fault!!

>>31409968
>UPS
eesh no not here.

Literally have a class-action against them because they're routinely getting caught on camera intentionally mutilating boxes marked fragile (shit like whacking them with hammers, throwing them up and down staircases repeatedly, intentionally running them over with forklifts, etc) and are currently in deep shit with my state because they've been dumping boxes heavier than 35lbs off this one bridge every day for like 3 years, nailed one driver for a quarter million in littering fines and have multiple millions in fines against the company for postal fraud.

>>31410033
>dumping boxes heavier than 35lbs off this one bridge
fucking kek

>>31410033
Where?

>>31409526
At this point it's become obvious you're another Step1. Step 2. Step 3. Shitposter... so just fuck off.
Some people actually need advice and your types are just poisoning the well.

>>31410038
Independence MO and surrounding area

>>31410037
Yeah it's gotten so bad that if you live within the range of that one distro center Amazon'll actually pay out the ass to ship fedex instead of their deal with UPS for Prime. Half the shit wasn't getting there on time and a lot of it wasn't getting there period.

>>31410048
After being in and out of there a few times, i can't say I'm surprised.

>>31410003
>$250
yeah a URX4 keymod like I've been saying

>>31409565
It has to shoot them while they are full

>>31410056
I live close to Amazon HQ and fedex is so bad here that they don't even try for about 1/2 of all 'attempts' but just drive by

>>31410106
Fedex does that here, but everyone does that here. Fedex, USPS, UPS, and DHL all literally carry those old-person grabber arms so they can stick the "sorry we missed you" note to your mailbox without even getting out of their truck.

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>>31410102
Hmm the 10" URX might be too short and won't cover my gas block, plus it is $275.

Is the SLR rail quality?

>>31410033
Why in gods name is that happening?

Does ups only hire feral niggers and white trash as driver?

Are they too lazy to deliver the package or just not lazy enough to dump them?

>>31410121
I don't even get a note, and sometimes they claim my address doesn't exist which means I have to get the sender to contact them for future 'attempts'

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>>31409333
You prob won't want to do it but I just ordered a utg slim. I've had an old utg on my carbine for a long time and no probs. Just wanted some extra space up front.

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>>31410145
I was considering it but they don't have the length I want. I hear they are decent rails for the money.

>>31410128
1. It's unionized, you literally have to commit multiple felonies before they can even think about firing you.
2. They get Federal and state tax breaks for hiring niggers, 90% of the distro center workers are black and female and like 70% of the drivers are black (though mostly older, morbidly obese males).

I work like 2 blocks from the Independence distro center and their parking lot is full to the brim with ghetto sleds and Escalades with rimz.
>tfw lady comes into your store with literally 6" fake nails
>how the fuck does she do anything with those ghetto claws?
>tfw she bitches about needing to get back to the distro center, they "only" give her a 2 hour break plus a 2 hour lunch

>>31410125
SLR is supposed to be gtg

if you're willing to spend $250 why not spend $275 for a KAC

http://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-urx-4-ibn-rail-5-56mm-10-75-length/

there are no questions about their quality

>>31407495
the cheapest "AR wrench" you can find, a flat head screwdriver or two and maybe a set of punches.

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>>31410125
SLR is good stuff, a buddy of mine is using one of their rails on his 14.5. Next time I see him I'll take some pics of it.

>>31410128
Oh, another thing.

If a UPS driver loses his DL here (too many tickets, felony moving violation, 3+ DUI's) they can't fire him and there's a bunch of UPS drivers still driving with no license.

My state doesn't require them to have a CDL and apparently UPS doesn't care they don't have a cat-D either.

>>31410175
That sounds fucking horrible.

What is the most expensive package of yours that was lost forever?

The fragile label is merely a challenge for some

>>31410179
You may need an allen key for some handgrip bolts. You probably have one left over from some knockdown furniture tools included.

>>31410175
When I worked for ups the drivers threw shit around all the time. They work shitty hours and most have a shit ton of stops. I would never want to deliver packages again. They make a lot of money tho

>>31410222
Monetarily would probably be my NF scope (fortunately the seller replaced it with little hassle).

However they completely powdered my grandmother's wedding china, which while not technically worth a lot of money was from a defunct brand and was made prior to 1900 and was literally irreplaceable.

That was one they ran over multiple times with a forklift. It shipped in a plywood box lined with 2" of foam, I got a plastic bag of splinters and powder shoved in my mailbox.
>grandma died while I was stationed in Germany and had to have it shipped intercontinentally

>>31410231
Also, one of the smallest allen keys you can find. I still haven't been able to fully tighten the screw for the trigger guard

>>31410222
I've left off fragile markings for decades. It triggers shipping guys. >Shipping Guy

>>31410237
Due to the union, it's pretty common for a 5-year driver to make $90,000+ a year take-home (around $115,000 before taxes) plus stock options plus 5% matched 401k plus 30 days' paid vacation.

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>>31410237
should i sell my MRO and get an SRS

>>31410242
I wouldve shot up the place tbqh

UPS NEVER!

>>31410237
Shipping/Receiving is a comfy job, do that instead if given the choice.

>>31410262
Those things are pretty cool.

>>31410256
It's 4 years then ya get 100k here. Sweet gig if you have no family. It was crazy in December, they didn't care if shit got broke. They would get in trouble if they didn't make art their stops

>>31410262
Yes. Sell to me pls

>>31410290
i thought they were kinda dumb and bulky until handled one. huge FOV and pretty neat looking.

>>31410299
ill sell it with mount for $475

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>>31410262
Yeah, I'd like one 2bh. I'll either go with an accupoint or a T1 or T2 though.

>>31410262
I think those look cooler than the MRO, which in my opinion looks dorky with the huge know on top. In addition to looking like a mario pipe on its side.

>>31410262
I'll take that mro for 100 bucks and good vibes for the next 3 months

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>>31410325
I'll post my MRO on ebay for $450 buy it now if you wanna buy it...

>>31410315
well, they are bulky.

I just don't think it matters that much.

>>31410269
I don't work there anymore, that was just a job in between jobs.

>>31410315
ha

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>>31410336
im about to put mine up and buy an SRS i think

the quest for the "perfect" AR is never ending

>>31410361
meh ebay ppl will pay it. at least with mine you can guarantee it doesnt have too much magnification

>>31410361
btw I meant shipping/receiving for like a grocery store, not ups. don't work in the ups warehouse

>>31410370
gib discount

>>31410377
oh. well i would never work there again

>>31410384
for u 450

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>>31410395
>$50 off retail
sell it to some retard on ebay

>>31410405
will do, and ill get 475

>>31410370
does the magnification vary from mro to mro?

>>31410418
allegedly

>>31410413
people are fucking dumb and it's ruining the used market. you are cool don't go to eBay tomorrow

>>31410370
There will always be something more gucci. I'm pretty much done with my 16" build after I get the KAC QD end plate. I just need to install my V7 forward assist. I've got a RCO killflash coming for my ECOS and maybe I'll get some flip covers for the ACOG.

My M4 is another story. I'm half tempted to either Block 2 it or SBR and MK18 it. In which case I'll build a new upper and get a T1 or T2

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>>31410428
sellers market, remain rustled.

>>31410435
>There will always be something more gucci.

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>>31410178
Well shit thanks for the find. I didn't realize they had the length I want.

>>31410210
Also good to know.

I think I an narrowing in on some rails.

KAC URX 4 in 10.75"
SLR ION Lite 10.7"
And MI G3 10.5"

>>31410496
KAC every time.

>>31410463
i am max rustled. $350 CASH NOW

>>31410418
Supposedly.

I've seen reports of 1.0x through 1.7x. I've only handled 2 and both were sub-1.3x approximately.

>>31410509
not in this case. but then again, im just not a fan of the urx4

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>>31410553
Why?

What stripped upper do I get arg?

http://www.primaryarms.com/aero-precision-stripped-ar15-upper-receiver-forged/p/ap501603/

http://www.primaryarms.com/zm48524-lw/p/zm48524-lw/

leaning towards the aero

>>31410572
while the DSA one looks kinda cool, it's still a DSA.

Definitely buy the Aero, it's only a $3 difference.

>>31410572
>a pissed off sperg is the only review for the second one

Kek

>>31410572
Aero, their machining is breddy gud. And the DSA one has one star ya maniac

>>31410608
That's from a single review compared to the Aero's ~30

>>31410534
450 free shipping

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>>31410595
>>31410608
>>31410616
Thanks, so far this is my order from primary arms, im only buying the barrel, upper and strike dust cover and forward assist, the other stuff my brothers meme shit.

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So, I've got this fancy forged lower I had engraved a while back, and while it's off being type 3 anodized I wanted to start ordering build parts. I was thinking a 16" midlength handguard/gas system, or a 20" rifle length. Might go with a PSA freedom upper because affordable and decent quality, or maybe get one of the CHF barrelled uppers. Any recommendations on a decent fixed stock that is affordable but not crap? I like the ace skeleton stocks but they are pricy and look goofy.

>>31410222
>The fragile label is merely a challenge for some
Can be true. Fragile, "this way up", etc mean nothing to UPS workers. Almost all packages will get thrown, dropped, kicked, smashed on the belt/under piles or carts, etc

t. Former UPS loader

>>31410722
But why though

>>31410749
Because you unload/sort/load thousands of packages every shift and and all that matters is that they all get sorted and in the trailer by the end of the shift. Quality doesn't matter, quantity does.

>>31410685
$325 and a 3'x5' picture of pupper

>>31410765
To be fair though, if your package is complete fucked, it was most likely in a jam on the conveyor belt

>>31410765
I'm glad doctors don't have the same ethic as you

>>31410765
you're a lazy cunt, bet you got fired

>>31410797
Not him, the company. You have to move a minimum number of packages an hour.

Even if that means flinging them into the trailers. That's were the niggers can put their basketball skills to work.

>>31410783
450 and my entire stash of larue swag

>>31410830
if you can't do that then you shouldnt be working there.

UPS wouldn't have a minimum packages rule and not have quality rules.

Also UPS is shit, I always use fedex or dhl

>>31410837
350 and pics of wife

>>31410810
>>31410797
You two are cute

>>31410843
$400 and one sultry pic of me at the range

>>31410847
360 in monthly payments of $89

>>31410846
should I thank you for your service dragging your knuckles and smashing packages?

>>31410863
Thank every major shipping service ever. If you think I was just a "bad apple", you're incredibly naive

>>31410797
>what is the VA
Some doctors do have that "ethic"

>>31410857
go buy an SRS02 for 850 while you still can, i think there are two left on ebay

>>31410846
lol you fuck up at one of the easiest jobs in the world.

You pick up a box, made specifically for retards like you, and yet you still manage to fuck it up.

>>31410870
if everybody working for every major shipper decided today to do their jobs well and quit being pieces of shit that smash packages it would stop being a problem

>>31410863
Guys can we new thread fedex is a best. I've seen fedex trucks passing people on mountain roads like it was no big deal. People who weren't even going that slow. But USPS is second and UPS is so far below everyone else that third place doesn't truly describe how horrible they are.

>>31410880
Fucked it up how, exactly? Do tell

>>31410882
this

>>31410797
apparently you aren't aware of how the medical system works nowadays

>>31410889
dropping packages, delivering late, wrong house.

I bought a laser engraver that took 1 week more to ship because the retard sender sent it through ups.

The day comes for it to arrive and it gets sent back before they deliver it to me because some retard dropped a package

>>31410882
Except like I said earlier, quantity matters more than absolutely anything and always will

>>31410901
no, quality matters most

>>31410876
I don't want one. My monthly fun money is spent on the m1

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>>31409670
>px4 in 45.

Understandable then. Most of the aforementioned suggestions are also good. Don't forget the S&W offerings. My 39-2 is one of the better shooting DASA handguns I've owned.

>>31410898
I loaded trailers at a hub. I wasn't a driver.

>>31410901
and like I said, I'm glad other professionals like doctors don't have your ethic

>>31410914
they drop packages too.

>>31410908
i bet you dont even solar power

>>31410907
Not to stockholders

>>31410913
Smith DA/SA pistols are so fucking sexy.

>>31410926
stockholders aren't your revenue retard

new
>>31410931
>>31410931

>>31410930
Then pick that shit up yourself or buy local.

>>31410920
Or they fall off of the belts, chutes, carts, etc. I'm not sure you get the logistics of moving millions of packages a day

>>31410839
Bean counters decide the minimum numbers. People end up being haphazard with shit just to get it in. Doesn't help that they'll literally hire anyone just to get people to stack boxes. Even people from adult homes, if they can work in trailers.

Peak time is always a wonderful fiasco to watch.

>>31410925
muh holosun