Revolvers: the Katanas of guns

>>31394784
oddly enough, katanas are the katanas of guns.
some sword fag will be along shortly to extol the virtues of glorious nippon steel over guns, never having to reload, being within X feet, etc etc

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>>31394784
>Only, Single Action Armies.

Arguably 1911's.
>Outdated Design that was the peak of technology a century ago. Continue to be made and have a nigh religious following. All serious Military and LEO's have moved on, but many the public ignorantly still believes it's the best.

>>31394784
No, glocks are the katanas of guns
>A bunch of cringeworthy edgelord faggots love them and say they're the best thing ever
>I mean, they do perform well enough, but they're not outstanding
>These faggots cause a bunch of people to hate the weapon and shit on it
Only difference is the katana can look aesthetically pleasing while the glock is uglier than sin.

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fuckin cowaboos

>>31394919
>Glocks, not being a fucking axe
Glocks are the most practical weapons ever, sacrificing aesthetics for usability.

>>31394784
Not really.
Personally, having the mass of gun closer to you hand in a revolver makes it so much easier to aim and realign your sights.

First time at a range (1st with a gun) I was doing 3 inch groups at 25 meters with a .357 vs 12 inch groups with a 9mm glock.

I can definitely see the perceived ease of use of a revolver over a polymer wonder nine for a novice concealed carrier.

>>31394901
>Arguably 1911's.
>>Outdated Design
DELET THIS

Deagle

>>31394784
Derringers.

>>31394919
nah thats ar15s. ive never actually witnessed someone freak out over a glock like people do about ar15s

>muh platform

someone posted a "whats my first rifle,maybe an ar15" and someone literally replied "ar15 is literally perfect just buy one". My reply was ar15 is fine but i personally dont like them and that the OP should research firearms a bit more and should also account for ammo, range time, tax/fee etc. in his budget, therefore should look into getting a cheaper used and simpler rifle to learn on and beat up a little and save up for something nice. Janitor deleted my post and OP probably spent his whole wad on an ar15 at walmart and 50 rounds of ammo.

>>31394962
Less practical than any decent .45 caliber pistol
9mm is designed to incapacitate, not kill. A .22 is more lethal than 9mm on average.
So fucking ugly and weak, as well as jams whenever you limp wrist it.
And blows up sometimes.
Niiice.

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>>31395009
ok, i was with you at first, but then you shit the bed.

Apply yourself.

>>31394923

Ur just jelly of our spins

Let's look at what the katana was to other swords first. It was, usually, a well crafted weapon that servered as the ideal "side arm" of its users. It could be carried much more easily than a spear or bow, which were the main battlefield weapon of its user. Against unarmored enemies, it excelled as most sidearms do. If you were going up against armored enemies you would just use a spear or bow (think pistols vs rifles). If all you had was your katana then you made do with it or died.

Now let's compare katanas vs other swords. The katana isn't exceptionally good at penetrating armor. It requies a lot of upkeep. It requires additional effort to keep it from getting smashed to shit because of its engineering. A master of the katana can use it very effectively. However, give the same man a European double edged sword of comparable length and he can do much more with it, with less training. The same goes for a revolver.

Tl;dr, revolvers are the katana of the gun world.

>>31395066
Well I fucked up that a bit in my drunken posting. First part should be katanas vs other weapons

>>31394784
For most malfunctions, all you have to do in order to clear it is pull the trigger again with a DA revolver.

Could save your life if you carry concealed

>>31395009
>tfw glock only comes in 9mm
wtf I hate glock now

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>>31394977
Did someone say "derringer?"


1911s are gun katanas though.

>>31395096
who thought that was a good idea

>>31395066
>It requies a lot of upkeep
Yeah. You must bathe it daily with the blood of virgins at midnight and also pay royalties to the Katana Cartel.

>>31395091
Unless it's a hang fire. Or the brass blew out and jammed up the cylinder. Or the rotating arm is obstructed. Or the locking arm is obstructed. Or the firing pin is obstructed. Or the cylinder is obstructed. Or the forcing cone is obstructed. Or the gun is slightly out of time.

But yeah revolver are definitely more reliable than auto loaders as long as none of that happens.

>the katana of guns
So a reasonably functional but largely mediocre gun that normies overestimate the effectiveness of because it gets overexposed in fiction?
This >>31394972, I guess.

>>31394901
Your outdated. Maybe if glock made an all metal frame and a decent trigger I'd pick one up to.

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>>31394784

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>>31394901

>>31394901

The capacity is a real drawback but other than that and maybe that it's all-steel it still carries it's own weight (no pun intended)

Automatics have to be built xboxhuge to accommodate the loads the bigbore revolvers can do.

>>31395122
Carrying a bunch of single-shot pistols has been a thing since fucking forever, man.

>>31395395
There's really no point nowadays though (and even in that anime its from).

>>31394784
with .50ae you are looking at 1200 - 1500 ft/lbs, with .454 you are looking at 1600 - 1800 ft/lbs
with .460 s&w you are looking at 2000 - 2800 ft/lbs
with .500 s&w you are looking at 2200 - 3000 ft/lbs
for comparison 7.62x54 runs in the 2400 - 3000 ft/lbs range out of a nugget and buffalo bore 10mm only runs in the 600 - 700 ft lb range

>>31394784
Revolvers offer magnum capability beyond that of semiautos. This is important if you need to defend yourself from wildlife. There are better options if you are looking to protect yourself from two legged predators.

>>31394784

More like a wakizashi desu.

>>31395009
>>31395092
What is a Glock 20, 21, 22, 23, 27, 29, 30, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39?

>>31395527
Unless you're in extremely dense foliage, it's always quicker to bring up a rifle or shotgun than in draw a pistol. And you get much better ballistics with something as small as 7.62x39 or 30-30 than any Magnum revolver load with much more precision and much faster follow up shots. There's really no reason to carry a revolver unless an extra 4-5 pounds is going to kill you faster than the animal you run into.

>>31395578
Its quicker to bring up a revolver than to unsling a rifle or shotgun.

>>31395578
If you're using a gun against a furry beast in the forest chances are you're not at a distance that ballistics will matter much.
What will matter though is the energy that bullet carries.
Refer to >>31395456
7.62x39:
10.0 g (154 gr) SP 641.3 m/s (2,104 ft/s) 2,056 J (1,516 ft·lbf)
.44 mag:
240 gr (16 g) JHP Cor-Bon 1,475 ft/s (450 m/s) 1,160 ft·lbf (1,570 J)
I used the grain with the closest energy. For the most energy:
340 gr (22 g) LFN +P+ Buffalo Bore Heavy 1,425 ft/s (434 m/s) 1,533 ft·lbf (2,078 J)

A rifle using x39 will be much larger than any pistol using .44 mag, for having 500 more joules on your hip that .44mag will put down most larger predators that come at you.
"But oh anon .44 is so big and hurts my wrist"
.357:
125 gr (8 g) JHP Buffalo Bore Heavy 1,700 ft/s (520 m/s) 802 ft·lbf (1,087 J)
500 less joules, you still have something a third the length of an AK and it's gonna kill shit dead.

Also
>30-30
A rifle in 30-30 is going to be larger and more unwieldy than either an AK or a revolver. Either a lever gun or a bolt action, both of which I would not want to use when some big mean motherfucker is pounching on me.

>>31395680
I made a mistake, the .44mag in 240gr is actually less than the 7.62x39.
I really wish wikipedia would standardize the fucking performance tables.

>>31395616
One would assume if your hunting you would have the rife at the low and ready position. If your just walkininawoods with it on your back I could definitely see the side arm being faster.

>>31394784
Yes.

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>>31395680
>A rifle in 30-30 is going to be larger and more unwieldy than either an AK
Although i wouldn't be carrying a 30-30 in a place i'd want a big bore revolver, a Winchester 94 (or clone thereof) is tiny as fuck as far as rifles go. (unless you get one with a 24 plus inch barrel,) but even then i wouldn't call it unwieldy.

>>31395705
Yes, but look at the AK, a similar length with a 30 round detachable magazine, or a pistol that does REALLY BIG SHOOT at 1/3 the length.
[spoiler]I love small lever actions they're so cute, I was at Cabela's today and I swear if I had more money I would've bought up the 94 I saw sitting in the used rack.[/spoiler]

>>31394784
Katanas are kangaroos of swords.
Outdated and impractical design that survived only because isolation.

Meanwhile revolvers are like reptiles.
No longer dominant but still have few niches where they thrive.
>>31394919
Honda Civic=Katana of cars
>>31395009
do you even try
>>31395304
>this is what coltfags actually believe

>>31395423
Rule of cool my dude.

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>>31394784
i would say they are the warhammers of the guns
for katana of guns i would go for smg

>>31395146
I think you missed the word most. Also, yes, revolvers are more reliable. All the things you listed happen much less often than stovepipes or FTFs. Pistols have their advantages over revolvers, but reliability isn't one of them. At all.

>>31394784
I was reading this noir detective novel thats a few decades old, and this protagonist kept jacking off over how powerful his imported japanese pistol was, fuck i need to remember what it was called.

Fuck yes i found it, the novel is called The Satan Bug, and the detective uses a Hanyatti 9-shot semi-auto pistol, and jacks off about how its the best .45 ever (sort of like snake in MGS3). unfortunately the Hanyatti is fictional :(

>>31395066
>It requies a lot of upkeep

You mean keep it oiled? Like any other carbon steel blade?

oh, my god, clear your calendar if you're getting a katana.

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>>31394901
>dat engraving

>lack of tactical advantage intensifies

>>31394901
>Outdated Design that was the peak of technology a century ago
The katana was never ever the peak of any technology, the Celts did pattern welding WAY before the Japanese, with better metal and better results, it was a workaround for their poor source of iron, any European arming sword, saber or rapier soundly defeated the Katana in any kind of fighting and dueling, being made from good steel and as a real fighting weapon, rather than a highly glorified sidearm never intended to be fielded in battle as long as you had access to muskets, bow and arrow, and spears (weapons the samurai actually did use on the battlefield).

>>31396199
You mean fortunately.

>>31394784
AKs are the katanas of guns

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>>31395423
>he doesn't concealed carry a brace of flintlocks at all times.

What if one of your guns jam?
>what if you miss?
What if you face more than one opponent?
What if you need to distribute weapons to a boarding party?

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>>31395680
Agreed. 357 magnum from a 6" tube is still a hell of a cartridge. I have a 160gr hard cast coated bullet getting 880ft/lbs of energy from my revolver. 7 of those in a grizzly and he probably isnt going to be getting up. That said, If Im rooting around in bear territory, I would feel more comfortable carrying my 500 mag. Probably a 460gr hard cast solid.

>>31395096
That setup had to cost her a fortune, and those poor girls were always broke and starving. baka

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I fucking hate this anime

1911 is really the Katana just like the Single Action Army is as well. Basically viewed as a meme weapon that real military disciplines still regard even as a ceremonial weapon.

Like cyberpunk people and otaku like the p90 and gamers like the deagle but the difference is they aren't fighting units unlike the military who really do uphold a martial tradition.

>>31394784
Katanas for fudds maybe.

Muh ease of use
Muh reliabilitah
Muh stopping powur

Shoot man I like wheelguns as much as anyone but if you're sacrificing twice as much capacity because you genuinely think you're too much of a retard to rack a slide you probably shouldn't carry a gun. Same goes for all those morons who think a pink snub .38 is the best choice for women.

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>>31398608
Grizzlies have been shot in the heart, half a dozen times, with a .30-06 and still kept killing until their blood ran dry of oxygen.

Your little popgun isnt going to do shit.
You need penetration for a CNS hit if you want to break up a fight with a bear. The size of the adrenaline glands is mind boggling