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I was going through wikipedia in a moment of boredon and foud this nice pic of a melanin enriched gentleman in his natural african habitat. The caption read: "A Dogon hunter with a flintlock rifle, 2010." and was taken by some photographer in Malin. Can anyone tell me what sort of rifle it is? I am very curious and the caption doesnt say.
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Mother of god, is that a baker?
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To my untrained eye it looks like a Brown Bess (aka Land Pattern Musket of 1731, standard issue to the British Army 1731-1840s)
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Do any Sub-Saharan African countries produce firearms? It isn't rocket surgery.
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>>31387845
Or a brown bess maybe?
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Its a Brown Bess or a copy of one.
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>>31387845
too slender for a Baker, I think
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>>31387825
A flint lock
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Look here
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>>31387902
Wow you so funny! Upvoted!
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>>31387910
Its a Brown Bess.
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>>31387825
that's a juju gun

he puts spells on you with that
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>>31387924
A charleville for comparison
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>>31387924
lock looks too small to be one of the land pattern iterations. probably some variety of english trade musket, they were often gifts/used in trade (hence the name)
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"Danegun"

Literally a home made musket patterned after the ones the euros brought over when they first started to colonise Africa.

They make break action shotguns too.
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>>31387825
>Gun produced in the late 18th/early 19th century
>Gets send thousands of miles to wild africa
>There it is given to a peasant or adquired from dead british soldier by melanin enriched hunter
>He see the advantage of it and start to use it to hunt, taking good care of it
>Passes ot down to his son when he is too old to hunt while teachin son to care for it
>230 years later still being used

Truly a tale to warm any /k/ommando heart
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Im going with French. Look at the hammer design and barrel bands.
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>>31387988
Build quality varies by tribe and how well off they are.

some can be near perfect recreations while others are little more than plumbing pipe.
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>>31388017
Majority of the ones i've seen are flintlock, though some have percussion ignition.
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>>31388035
Course some folk just use em for economical sense. AKs and ammunition are valuable and best left for defending the village, why waste ammo for it hunting when a cheaper way is peasant.
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We'll considering how many colonial soldiers fought and died in Africa, it could be mix of anything.

English, French, Portuguese
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>>31388035
Op's pic gun is too nice to be a Dane gun. It's got to be a battlefield pick up or whitey issued.
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>>31388060
The most tragic part however, is some of the Wildlife reserves are too poor to field proper weapons, so they sometimes have their officers use em. though this example is a trophy captured from a poacher.
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>>31387864
Rhodesia did, SA does.

I think the rest just buy up storage lockers full of old AKs.
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>>31387864
South Africa
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>>31387999
I concur.

I KNOW I've seen that stubby-ass hammer before....

/rummages
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>>31387864
alot of them do but they just create copies of cold war era guns.

Mostly just spare parts for G3s, FALs, AKs etc.
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>>31388116
It's very possible. though i've seen some excellent (in a weathered sorta appearance at least) guns.
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>>31387825
Laughably outdated firearms were big trade items in Africa and India too.

Found an old forgotten armory full of early 1800s muskets? Send them to Africa in exchange for gems, ivory, etc.
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I really want a flintlock t b h.
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>>31388238
They're worth it if you can learn the nuances.

Even a cheapshit Ardesa made gun is hella fun
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Looks an awful lot like a Potsdam, doesn't it?

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/MP1809.shtml

The Germans had their own colonial spree in Africa. Maybe they brought along some of their old shooting irons as gifts or trading goods to local tribes.
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>>31388238
If you're okay with an Indian-made replica, there's the link I just posted.

If you'd rather make your own from a kit, TotW is without peer in the business:

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/index.aspx
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>>31387864
>niggers
>producing anything
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>>31388283
I don't know how much I trust poo steel but I'll keep totw in mind for whenever I actually buy one of these.
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>>31388323
The barrels are sound and the locks are hand-forged and of surprisingly good quality. The stocks are clubby and covered in varnish. The first thing any black powder reenactor does is disassemble their Indian gun, sand the stock down until it's about two pounds lighter, refinish it, put a patina on all the steel parts with lemon juice or soda pop, then put it all back together.
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>>31388339
>all the steel parts with lemon juice or soda pop, then put it all back together.
I used mustard.
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>>31387988
>>31388017
>>31388035
>>31388060
>>31388124
>>31388191
I'm surprised that American manufacturers or even a reverse Century Arms company doesn't sell them cheap new or used single shot shotguns and cheap ammo en masse, it'd be a be a marked improvement over those homemade things
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>>31388413
I don't think anyone wants to get caught selling guns to Africans.

Even if you justify it as protecting villages.
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>>31388463
But there are certainly good, Pro-US tribes...
Anyway, would they even be able to afford them with the prices being as low as possible for the company to still make profit?
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>>31388496
Africans have never had a problem spending their money on weapons and bullets instead of food or furthering their society
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>>31388170
>>31388169
>SA does

Well yeah, basically because of whitey though. I'm talking about real azz niggas making guns.
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>>31388314

Things are relative.

If you had to hammer your own flintlock out of steel that you heat in a clay charcoal forge, could you do it?

You had nothing to do with the production of your guns; these guys are a hell of a lot more /k/ than you are.
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>>31388496

Pretty sure they're pro-themselves famalam.
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>>31388639
>you aren't /k/ unless your people live like savage morons

Your logic is retarded brah
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>>31388569
OH MY GOD! I, like, can't even, like, BELIEVE you, like just SAID that OMG. Like, HOLY F*CK you EVIL RACIST SC*MBAG!

Take that sh*t to /pol/ you autistic NAZI loser!!
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>>31388825
Liked, retweeted, and upboated.
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>>31388773

>Individual Africans with limited resources producing working guns with a campfire + hard work
>Gunless NEET on /k/ makes literally nothing with all the resources available to a citizen of a first world country
>HURFF DURFF NAGGERZ

Their homemade guns are cool anon. It's OK if you don't like black people but yes, if a guy makes his own flintlock from scratch and then makes his living killing stuff with it, he's more /k/ than either of us.
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>>31388413
No money in it. Govs can trade surplus guns for resources. Manufacturers need money. Raw resources require money and time to refine.
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>>31388413
Wouldn't even be worth the shipping.
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>>31391341
I'm sure some /k/ommandos might be willing to go to Afri/k/a and create an arms company. Might end up somewhere between lord of war and zulu on the happening spectrum.
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>>31391434
Depending on where they choose they may end up being quite good actually. Just btibe the local goverment and get the permits and ship the parts in. The local workforce would work for sub-china wages which means very little cost. The main problem would be getting decent techinical workers, but we can import white for the top brass and use the darkies on the plants themselves.
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>>31387825
ohh noes.
trigger discipline hasn't made it to the "dark" continent yet.
and what the fug is that "its" using for a flint?
is that a crack rock maybe.
come to think of it that might be a big crack pipe...whatcha think?
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>>31391768
To be fair the hammer is not pulled back and it probably isnt loaded either. And there is a good chance the photographer asked the guy t opose like that for a better shoot.

And yeah, it is probably using a piece of flint from some local quarry or something.
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