ITT we post mistakes

>>31387529
FPBP

>>31387529

Here's your reply

>>31387529
Well .308 was a mistake over .280 British so you're not totally wrong

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>>31387529
Here, she's now fixed

>>31387529
This thread

>>31387529
This thread

>>31387542
do you just not fucking know what that means? lurk a little

Well it was a step backwards in just about every way, put us behind the Soviets, and lasted all of 15 years before getting merc'd by the AR, so "mistake" seems an apt term...

If I had a picture of OP I would post it.

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>>31387529

Shame it had such a simple solution as well

>>31387590
He's doing it wrong deliberately to prevent a post of actual merit from being the first post. It's pretty autistic.

>>31387632
In this case spbp

>>31387665
Not really
The M14 is stupid

>>31387674
As much as you like to hate on it to fit in here, It was a more than capable rifle for the 1950s. I'm also going to take a shot in the dark and say you think most popular firearms are shit.

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>>31387674
Go home chink, i think you've shilled enough today.

>>31387905
>>31387951
It's a 30's weapon that has been "upgraded". It's features were behind the times when it was new, especially the action. Its cartridge is, while awesome, too big for a select fire rifle. Should have kept the .280. Keeping the wooden rifle style stock is just silly, and reeks of good ol' boyism. I like the M14, it looks cool. I've shot very well with one, and really enjoyed it. But it was a dumb attempt at creating a service weapon to serve the US during the cold war. The Garand was amazing, but it's successor entered during an awkward time, and ended up awkward.

>>31388018
It killed people just fine. It served its role just fine.

>>31388034
Doesn't mean it's not stupid.

>>31388018
The m14 itself wasn't a mistake, fielding it as the main battle rifle was.

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>>31387529

>>31388086
I can agree with that to an extent

>>31388069
That's an opinion

>>31388086
It was stupid in its select fire mode. Semi auto and restricted to range/hunting/DMR usage it's still a fine rifle.

>>31388093

GTFO eurocuck you noguns serfs arent welcome on this board.

>>31388120
Plenty of European countries has laws on par with the States, while not having to adhere to the NFA or Hughes. Those are the minority, but still don't warrant generalization.

>>31388153
>laws on par with the States
there is no country on par with the states. even California and NY have better laws than anywhere in Europe. if just barely.

>>31388153

lmao unless you are swiss this is a lie

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Mistakes into miracles.

>>31388338 everyone please visit arg and post shitty pictures to eat up their image limit.

>>31387565
>short forearm for manlets with t-rex arms
>long stroke gas system from the garand that guarantees the eventuality of bent oprods
>proprietary oprod so if it breaks you need to fabricate one
>100+ dollar proprietary surplus magazines
>most are century tier Parts kit guns (if bought in the USA) assembled with dodgy cast or re-welded receivers

>>31388034

>well yeah it wasn't nearly as good as the alternatives and had no real future as a main line infantry rifle, BUT IT STILL SHOT BULLETS!

This isn't a good way to justify the adoption of a new weapon.

>>31388487
They'll just make a new one. And then another. And then another. And so on Until forever.

>>31388106
>DMR
Trying to get an m-14 to hold zero is like trying to drink from a colander.

>>31388759
>short forearm for manlets with t-rex arms
Are you calling the Garand a firearm for manlets?
>most are century tier Parts kit guns (if bought in the USA) assembled with dodgy cast or re-welded receivers
>long stroke gas system from the garand that guarantees the eventuality of bent oprods
>proprietary oprod so if it breaks you need to fabricate one
>2016
>Not getting your parts kit from Apex and reciever from JamesRiverArmory or Garandguy

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>>31387529
Shelving this :(

>>31389039
Holy shit this, having to constantly be mindful of bedding and needing to tune that cunt ever few hundred rounds is bullshit of the highest order. No one, and I mean no one, liked being issued an M-21 or, to an even lesser extent, the EBR.

>>31389039
> t. Faggot who hasnt shot an M-14 or derivative

>>31389492
Holy shit nigger, one of the most infamous aspects of the Garand action is that it makes stock bedding a tricky ordeal, and one that must be repeated far more often than you'd want.

>>31389154
Learn to post correctly on 4chan before you try and win arguments here, bub.

Alternatively you can go back to where you came from

>>31389512
Oh yes, I absolutely hate having to rebed my m14 every time I shoot it.

>>31389492
Owned a fulton natl. match. Get fucked.

I could write a long series of chains about why I stopped bringing it to competitions in favor of an ar10, but I found an article that does it for me:
https://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/

>>31389039
I touched the upper handguard once on my M1A and it lost its zero instantly.

>>31389788
Carlos Hathcock got killed because of his M14 malfunctioning on him.

He tripped and fell on it and it pierced his heart.

What a horrible weapons platform.

>>31389788
>>31389763
I see what your doing. But you bring up valid, if very exaggerated, reasons why it sucks.

>>31388163
Is this nigga serious ?

>>31389764

Having read this article, it seems like a bunch of stacked up m14 hate. The weapon most certainly does not become wildly inaccurate without constant tuning. That's absolute bullshit. What I think you should take from the article is that the m14 isn't a great sniping weapon, but is acceptably accurate as a standard battle rifle.

>>31389763
>>31389788
>Oh man, the way the FCG locks into the action and the very construction of the receiver DOES make bedding the stock properly a chore, and something that must be done often due to the offset forces imparted because of the op-rod
>I know, I can TOTALLY invalidate that objective fact by just exaggerating like a total child! That'll make it seem like no big deal!
I'm sorry, anon, but you really have to do better than that.

>>31389741
I don't see you trying to argue back faggot

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>>31389788
>topic is M-14 being used as a DMR
>get buttblasted when a very real issue with the rifle that prevents it from being an appropriate or even desirable DMR gets brought up

>>31389764
>>31389869

That looserounds blogpost is a bunch of garbage written by a colt fanboy.

The military study he quoted from was an example of issues from very early production rifles before they shut everything down and reworked the tooling.

He even showed that he didn't even know what he was talking about when he gave an example of the upper handguard causing the zero to meander when disturbed (exclusively a problem with match modified garands)

He later deleted the section from his blogpost when people called him out on it.

>>31387951
>>31387905
>there are people who don't recognize the FAL as the superior battle rifle

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M16.
Unreliable.
So unreliable that congress had to get involved.
Still unreliable.
Only reason we kept it was because MIC.

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>>31387632
>it's stylistically designed to be that way

>>31388020

That looks like the piece of shit Deadsmith used in Suicide Squad

>>31389788

>I touched the upper handguard once on my M1A and it lost its zero instantly.

You might have intended that as a joke, but it is actually a very real issue with the M14. Maybe the civilian models are better quality, but the military models were horrible. The Army tried for years to make the M14 into a suitable DMR. No luck.

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>>31390659
take that back

>>31387529
This thread

>>31390515
Nope do some reading.

>>31390766

Except the version you posted was introduced long after the problems were fixed.

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>>31390106

Fuck it, I'm gonna bite

The M16 reliability issues were down to just two things.

>Lack of cleaning kits
For some reason, someone thought it would be funny to tell the boys on the ground that their rifle was self cleaning. I don't know why, perhaps they were the first shitposters. This meant cleaning kits weren't issued, so the rifles got all shitty and dirty and after a while they would choke up and die. This wasn't helped by the swampy conditions in 'nam, mud being one of the most infamous ways a gun gets shut down. Once people stopped being retards and figured out that having shittons of mud in every inch of their rifle probably wasn't a good idea, stoppages and failures decreased dramatically.

>Gunpowder
Technically isn't even a problem with the rifle. A lot of the time in the early ammunition, not all of the gunpowder would burn off, and the now exposed casing would shit a good load of the stuff into the action, which again over time shut down the gun due to the build up of gunk. Which again could be easily fixed by cleaning your goddamn rifle.

The reliability issues of the early AR's were not a product of faulty design, but rather the product of misinformation and ignorance from the top brass and the growing pains of a new system being implemented.

3/10 bait made me replay with a paragraph
>inb4 TROLLED U ECKS DEE
Blow it out your ass

>>31387584

/thread

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>>31390659
that image never ceases to amuse me.

Had one for 20 years. Never liked the safety
placement. It also has a overly finicky gas system.
Loved the trigger and sights.
FAL would have been a better choice.
Especially in .280.

>>31393262
I never had a problem with the gas system. Shot milsurp all the way to M118LR just fine.

Was it a short barrel model?

>>31389800
But Hathcock didn't use an M14, he used a Winchester model 70