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One potential way of future warfare is often overlooked, even though I think it's quite intriguing, a way to create a sort of poor man's drone army.
What you do is you take a human and surgically modify his brain in order to remove conscious thought. Thing is, human bodies can perform all their functions in a state of complete non-consciousness, as demonstrated by the real phenomena of sleepwalking. A human brain is a machine, an organic computer, and consciousness is its parasite, having attached itself to the brain, just like viruses attach themselves to the bacterial DNA, becoming what's called junk DNA.
If the consciousness is removed, and a company commander can tap directly into the brainstem of his soldiers, he gets 100% control over them. Without consciousness, the body will blindly respond to electrochemical stimuli, and a human body will turn into a marionette.

One of the many potential benefits of such a soldier is insane reflexes. Ever notice how sometimes you can catch a mug that fell out of your hand, and you've no idea how you could do it? That's because you didn't do it consciously. "You" didn't do it, your brainstem did.
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>>31384158

>why don't we create a brand new branch of science and technology
>why don't we use the brand new magic-tech to create a """""poor man's""""" drone army

Are you retarded?
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>a way to create a sort of poor man's drone army

>Technology so advanced it's science fiction
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>>31384158
The remote control coma patient experiments made me think similar thoughts.
They hookin muscle stimulating electrodes to vegetables and computer controlling parts with those brain wave readers. This lets a person sit still and think adout lifting there hand, making a brain dead body lift it's hand.

How long till that system is run by vidya AI?
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>>31384158
Everything you're talking about is so far in the future, that there's no real point in discussing it as anything other than a sci-fi story plot. Also ditto what everyone else was saying.

Oh, and

>If the consciousness is removed
Bitch, we don't even know what consciousness is yet. We have people who are missing LITERALLY 90% of their brains, and they're not lacking consciousness.
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>>31385568
I can't find anything like what you're saying, but two things.

First, muscle stimulating electrodes are an entirely separate thing from straight 'control' of a brain.

Second, being able to lift a hand is way the hell easier than a 'sleepwalking' soldier/spy/worker/literally anything that requires manipulation, actual work, let alone being even remotely passable as a normal person.

Also,
>How long till that system is run by vidya AI?
Vidya AI is fucking retarded, like incredibly so. If we're using vidya AI for anything like that, we're just going to end up with people who can't into pathing, walk into walls, and glitch out when it comes across an obstacle it wasn't expecting.
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>>31386278
The largest fires start from the tiniest spark.
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>>31386278
You seem to think the brain is needed to control a body. Pic related was up on Hack-a-day a while ago.
If one wrist band can make your arm play a rare guitar. Imagine a suit with a properly developed and devoted sequence board.
You could keep "kung-fu" on a thumb drive.
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>>31384158
Mah nigga! Did you read echopraxia?
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>>31384158
[Blindsight intensifies]
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>>31386512
My nigga! Glad I'm not the only one. The sequel Exhopraxia had exactly what op is describing, which were referred to as zombies
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>>31386412
continuing...
This steps into a creepy place where a brain dead body is now a meat puppet. Lets face it muscle can be very efficient from a robotics/bio-mechanical POV. The body is a fantastic tool. Systems self regulate, regenerate, and can be fueled with a nutrient slurry. The conscious mind limits and regulates muscle use constantly, but with stimulus control going full pcp mode is just a dial.

Imagine fighting an enemy that is attacking you with essentially innocent bystanders. Zombies?

What if power armor ends up being 3-D printed, vat grown muscle slabs you slip on like a coat and go beast mode in?
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>>31386412
>You seem to think the brain is needed to control a body.
Based on what? The anon I replied to was talking about a specific experiment, so naturally I was talking about about a brain doing so, but that doesn't preclude non-brain stimulation. Plus the vidya AI part kind throws what you said in the trash.

Regardless though, that device doesn't matter.

First off, it doesn't "make your arm play a rare guitar.", it trains your muscles to be able to enact a certain sequence. Basically just artificially induced muscle memory., and even that is still an iffy proposition.

Second, even if it did, that's nothing at all like what OP is talking about, and has no actual bearing on what he said. Being able to "control" muscle movement is no where sufficient enough for sleeper agents, not only because you physically cannot program enough circumstances to cover everything, you would inherently not be able to handle higher thought process, so minor things like conversation would become tricky.

>Imagine a suit with a properly developed and devoted sequence board.

>You could keep "kung-fu" on a thumb drive.
Oh no you fucking can't, this isn't The Tuxedo. Having "'kung-fu' on a thumb drive' would just mean you twitching a bunch.

The system wouldn't EVER actually have control, the user would ALWAYS be able to negate or counter-act it. Unless of course you used enough stimulation, but having the conflicting instructions, combined with the amount of power need to supersede the user himself, you'd just end up causing damage. Furthermore, even if you did supersede, you're STILL not doing anything other than, AT BEST, creating muscle memory.

ADDITIONALLY, PossessedHand doesn't use enough stimulation to do any major movement; as in, it's not going to be making you walk around. That's not just technological limitations, it's a matter of "this amount of stimulation would cause damage and eventually make you unable to use these muscles"

tl;dr Stop talking, you're wrong
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>>31386608
>This steps into a creepy place where a brain dead body is now a meat puppet.
It's not at all simple to do, and is so far in the future we're talking Fusion batteries are now available for your phones.

>The conscious mind limits and regulates muscle use constantly,
With the purpose of preventing damage, your meat puppets would kill themselves after a few days of being in 'full pcp mode', be useless after a few hours, and be irreparable after a few minutes

>What if power armor ends up being 3-D printed
It'd be the shittiest and most ineffective armor in existence.

>vat grown muscle slabs you slip on like a coat and go beast mode in?
That is, again, literally so far into the future, we'd be in Andromeda by then.
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>>31386643
Well... Some one needs to to be pointlessly right in a theoretical discussion.
Just expanding on the possibilities of new and experimental technology. You seem to have it all locked down though no need for further discussion. Thanks for your cervix.

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>>31386740
>Some one needs to to be pointlessly right in a theoretical discussion.
The OP was a stupid premise, it reads like someone high is trying to come up with a dystopian thriller plot. It didn't even ask a question, or invite discussion, it made a poorly written statement based on a high school drop-out level of information.

>Just expanding on the possibilities of new and experimental technology.
That's my point, it's not possible and the experiment technologies are either something completely different, not at all viable for serious use, or so far in the future discussion of it is better suited for discussion elsewhere. We simply cannot speculate on such distant developments.

>whysoseriousman.jpg
Because this was a stupid OP, asking a self-answering question for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
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There is a less technological way.

It is called government and public education.

You start to brainwash children very early, so they will all later give the part of their work so you can brainwash future generations.
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>>31384158
finally I can use this image
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Pretty sure your "poor man's army" is more expensive than just having a fucking army.
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