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So if you were in charge of a third world country or a post apocalyptic civilization and you had no access to expensive equipment such as tanks, jets, and ships.

All you've got to work with are small arms, civilian vehicles, and small civilian aircraft and boats. Any bombs and vehicles have to be improvised.

What does your army look like?
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>>31381951
A somali miltia.
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75mm long AT guns plastered over trucks

the trucks and guns cost less than the ammo used to kill them and odds are there are survivours because no encacement
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>>31381951
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pic related yo.. Exactly what you're talking about is all over Africa
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A bunch of people with improvised small arms and civilian vehicles. You set the peramiters kinda thin, OP.
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A26K INVADERS. ALL THE INVADERS ALL HAIL ED HEINEMAN
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I'd spend a sufficient portion of the budget on training. Don't conscript or hire any chuckle fuck who only wants to join for money, they need to be willing and motivated.

AK for everyone. Mortars can be made in-house with relative safety. Other weapons probably shouldn't be attempted. RPGs would be a good asset if they can be acquired surplus.

>>31382023
and it would probably look like this. Train some welders to add safety bars to the pickups. The welders could also make their own frames to use the truck guts for sandrail-style fast attack vehicles.
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>>31381951
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano

I'd be focusing on a few main points
>as much mechanization as allowable
>combined arms against more tinpot countries
>maneuverability and bloodying the nose of conventional against tinpot dictatorship armies with a small number of high quality items and a bunch of rabble infantry with rusty AKs

lots of technicals and unarmored troop transports, some light tanks, and LAVs for squad support. depending on terrain have ATV or dirtbike units for scouting and message delivery in a case of hacked/no coms

lots of shit like LAVs with gun mortars to provide direct and indirect fire, with TOW/random anti tank missiles for running into aforementioned tinpot dictator T80s and GTAMs mounted on hard points and bristling with machineguns for an anti infantry role.

pretty much put SAM/GTAM and ATGM on every vehicle you can, with an effort on getting anti air and anti armor weapons at the platoon level across the board.

also a focus on rocket artillery, helicopters, and fixed wing ground attack aviation. so I'd want a fuckton of supertuscanos, BM30's, M124 hind gunships.

Standard infantry battle rattle would be close to the old US BDU with an external belt and PASGT helmets like the mexicans use. probably no bodyarmor, but try to get as many fuckers wearing pots as possible. Standard Rifle would be an AKM and standard light machine gun would be the RPK. standard heavy machine gun would be DShKM or NSV depending on availability.

>inb4 hurr muh synario!
look at the middle east right now, it is awash with 1960-90's milsurp from all over the fucking world. 3rd world or post apocalypse doesn't mean improvised arms, as the third world has shown repeatedly.
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>>31381951
The bulk of the military would be a bunch of poorly trained soldiers armed with whatever what left in inventory by the previous regime. The rest would be a small - division size - force that is relatively well trained and equipped, this force would be kept happy, loyal and close to the capital.
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>>31381951
Lots and lots of scavenged Toyota landcruisers or improvised vehicles based on the landcruiser with a mixed combination of scavenged ZSU-23-2s, ZPUs, KPVs, DShKs, GRAD-Ps and RAK-12s mounted on them. That would be a start.
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>>31381951
Most of the precurment officers are curropt or for some reason they buy expensive shit

Look at a third world army with limited budgets

They buy russian shit like 3 or 4 heleicopters rather then buy 20 or 30 cheap but reliable helicopter or buy cheap planes or the stuff are all gifits

One country that i seen that does buy cheap stuff is philopines they buy ww2 shit and convert them but its still pretty shit
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>>31383178
I think you mean motorization not mechanization anon
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>>31383996
Toyota landcruisers are over priced and too complicated now ( and old ones are all fucked)

Better off to get Great Walls or whatever's cheapest and give it a once over with OD or tan paint
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>>31384436
This is how procurement goes in poor nations:

Float a demand for equipment.
Western and Eastern companies come in.
Both sides offer you insane priced shit you don't need, can't maintain and can't afford.
At first you refuse to take those offers.
Then General Dynamics begins the bidding war by offering you $10 mil under the table for the contract you need.
Rinse and repeat until you get a favourable bargin.
End up with Chinese surplus, a huge bank account and a happy general who's blind to you suddenly driving round a brand new Mercedes while your tankers are using shitty Russian/Chinese monkey models with sheet steel plating instead of armour, steel tube guns with no actual forging and ammo made from fireworks gunpowder for 80 year old stockpiled AKMs.

I mean, 50s-80s surplus is still effective. Anything from WW2 onwards kills people just fine and when your neighbours are armed with exactly the same shit as you, being armed with the latest and greatest doesn't matter.

Alot of Surplus is easy to retrofit new shit into as well due to how much more rugged the designs were. That's why you get T-54s with insanely powerful engines, rearmoured turrets and other shit.
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yugoimport.com/en + china
Every damn thing a shithole of a country can buy for its military
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>>31382021
>give them orders to occupy x neighboring country
>the neighboring country's PM phones you to complain that there's a bunch of kids pedaling cars all over the roads
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>>31384471
Or literally just cake it in Mud for a robust camo, as the sand people do (pic related).
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Custom TOC for "Mechanized" Infantry Squad (2+ per Platoon)

Technical Gun-Truck or APC

1 x HQ TEAM
Squad Leader w/40mm Grenade Launcher
Vehicle Driver w/Carbine or Shotgun
Vehicle Gunner w/Carbine

1 x HEAVY TEAM
SAW/General-Purpose-Medium-Machine-Gunner
Assistant-Gunner/Ammo-Bearer
RPG/Anti-Tank-Gunner (w/LAW?)

2 x RIFLE TEAM
Rifleman
Rifleman
Rifleman

This is ten dudes (a full dozen if the vehicle crew dismounts) deployed from a Toyota Hilux or BDM or something, movable as basically three fire elements (four if the guntruck joins) -- rifle teams mutually cover each other in bounding overwatch with the heavy team & guntruck deployed to hilltops for more cover or sent in via flank or frontal to wrexhit.
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>>31381990
A 75mm long AT gun could probably fit in your pocket, anon
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>>31381951
link related is all I need
>http://contact-kalia.com/
Firearms, attachments and equipment, aircraft, vehicles. You name it
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>>31381951
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