/k/ What weapon was the most advanced for its time? Picture unrelated

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this man is the most advanced weapon known in the galaxy

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>>31354703
smokeless powder

>>31354703
Tommy gun

>>31354703

The Henry repeating rifle during the Civil War.

Mandragon rifle?

>>31354703
G3

>>31354703
The first gun

>>31354758
But can he give me some spit facts?

>>31354703
The first steel bladed weapons.

For firearms I'd say the Gatling gun, but don't have much to back it up desu

>>31354879
This

>>31354802
To finiky desu

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>>31354703
most advanced WW2 smg

>>31354703
1911 or german space magic

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>>31354703

I'd like to say the Marlin Model 60.

Just picked one up too... OG 18 round tube mag. Downside, that damned canted front sight they jacked up while pressing the barrel in.

>>31354802
>Man dragon

Fucking furfags

The nuke.

Literally the stepping stone into the atomic age.

The Girandoni air rifle

>>31354770
>Says Thompson
>literally the heaviest, unwieldy, most unbalanced SMG ever made. Git gud son

>>31357022
>most advanced

It's a stamped, open bolt, simple blowback 9mm SMG

There is nothing special about it.

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The fact that none of you dumb motherfuckers have brought this up yet disappoints me.
>7mm cartridge in between 5,56 and 7.62 NATO in power and recoil
>Scope instead of irons
>Bullpup (say what you will but it was the first ADOPTED bullpup)
>Actually adopted but then instantly unadopted because Churchill was a fucking idiot who thought the USA would actually standardize with NATO... then sabotaged their rifle trials in order to get the Army-designed shitstick M14 adopted over the FAL the rest of NATO was adopting
>Restarted development after the USA adopted 5.56, sadly got developed into the polished turd that was the SA80

Literally no other assault rifle/battle rifle from the 50s stands up to it. The No9 was strangled in the cradle and it was fucking stupid.

>>31361160
yes the ak is so shit compared to your absolute dogshit of a design
gtfo

>>31360874
go home, you're drunk

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>>31361191
what the fuck are you even talking about. ak47/akm was designed in, you guess it, 1947

which is in the 40s
which isnt the 50s

>>31361124
>9mm
The grease gun was .45ACP, same as pretty much every other pistol-caliber firearm in service in the US at the time.

The grease gun was good cause it was able to be mass-produced, and an SMG is better than a pistol for most applications. But there's no way it was the most advanced SMG in its day.

>>31361222
/thread

>>31361309
beat me to it

>>31361222
literally THE most influential gun of all time. it lead to people making revolvers, then improving on revolvers by creating internal magazines to stop cylinder blast, then attempting to make semi-automatic versions of those magazine-using rifles

the rest is history

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>>31361276
> uses stamped sheet metal instead of other costly manufacturing methods like the Thompson uses
> no wood or bakelite, only steel
> simple, easy to maintain and oper8
> slow ROF with low recoil
> high accuracy for an OB gun
also, M3A1 > M3
the handle looks cool, but is way to complicated

>>31361231
> ak47/akm was designed in, you guess it, 1947
no, it was offically adopted in 47
design started in 45

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Surprised none of you brought up the gun that can only be described as Kraut Space Magic, the G11.

Was using caseless ammunition in the 1970s when today in 2016 we're finally starting to see how much of a benefit caseless ammunition can be.
Also was burst-fire and had little to no recoil, which is simply amazing.

>>31361160
Came here to post this.

>>31354758
>video on counting past infinity
>takes 20 minutes to say that you can't count past a concept

>>31361317
this

>>31361530
Caseless ammo is not "advanced" in any meaningful sense (i.e. giving you a significant, actual combat advantage). It's meme-tier technology that, while cool, has never been more useful than the Tround.

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>>31361530
Gotta agree with this guy. As far as guns that were very advanced for their time, it's the G11 in first with the Steyr AUG in second.

This is just my opinion on the idea of how advanced the designs were for their time. As far as actual combat functionality goes, I wouldn't know because I've never actually shot either gun. But they're both definitely pretty "space age" for their time.

rock

>>31362249
>italian piece of shit
>space age
Pick one

>>31362249

If the AK never existed, the AUG would have one of the most impressive track records in history. They have changed almost nothing because almost nothing has needed changed.

Honestly the worst change imo was the "evolution" from the A3 to the A3 M1 with their dinky-ass short rails. Even the longest M1 rail isn't long enough for a real sight radius with backup irons.

>>31361160
>Literally no other assault rifle/battle rifle from the 50s stands up to it
Except for the AR-15 which has been adopted and copied the world over. Fuck off bong, bullpups are shit.

>>31362264
ITALIAN? ITALIAN? Learn your shit anon this is the pinnacle of Austrian firearms.

>>31362268

That's just Steyr jewry for the civilian market to get people to buy their scoped versions. Most militaries still run the long low rail.

>>31354902
pfffff

>>31361124
thats the joke you stupid fuck

>>31362249
> tfw they sold the TMP because nobody wanted it
fuck this

>>31354703
atlatl

>>31362245
Significant reduction in carried weight when it comes to ammunition is not 'meme-teir', it is in fact a very good combat-advantage.

Now let me educate your ass.

Regular ammunition for a SAW gunner is fucking heavy, the poor bastard has to carry at least 750+ rounds to feed his beast while out and about in a combat zone, and it really sucks if it's 7.62.
Caseless ammunition is 50% lighter and 40% shorter if it's telescoped caseless (the round impregnated into the propellant). This provides lighter weight or larger ammo capacity for the SAW and the shortness if a telescoped round can provide a higher cylic rate and cuts down on the length the action has to move to load the next round. Not to mention due to the smaller size, caseless can lead to higher magazine capacities as well and less chance of a jamming issue due to there being little to nothing to eject.

Now I do admit that there are issues with Caseless as well, main one being fragility, the propellant that makes up the body of the round having the probability of cracking or falling apart, but like the issue with potential cook-offs of the propellant, it can be solved.

Cased ammunition is proven, that's a fact, it's been the staple of firearms for a long time and is very likely to remain for a long fucking time, but cased ammunition is still being researched, further developed, and perfected, and I can see it being the future of combat and in use 10 years from now, if not sooner.

>>31361160
>was strangled in the cradle

Holy shit

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>>31361160
EM2 makes me as sad as man pictured.

Just remember the fucker who though m14 was better than FAL also thought m60 was better than MAG 58. How wrong they were, Turns out they were probably being bribed.

Apparently EM2 Did see minor service across the SAS and SBS.

SA80A1 was a turd no denying, A2 is a dream of reliability and robustness.

>>31362282
> "Bullpups are shit"
> Takes most of the barrel sway issues out of rifle.
> More compact.
> Reduced fatigue on muscles.
90% of people who can't shoot blame the weapon.

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>>31362282