In leaked emails, Colin Powell says Israel has 200 nukes

>>31351886
I wouldn't worry about it goyim

>>31351886
We summon you, Oppenheimer, grace this threads with knowledge and the glory of nuclear warfare?

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>>31351886
>timesofisrael
Good goy.

STANDING

>>31351926
ON THE EDGE

What if it was hyperbole?

>>31351930
OF SEVENTEEN.

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>>31351930
OF THE CRATER

>>31351886
[Yawn] Just a guess. Could be 80, could be 400.

As far as Iran is concerned, retaliation will hurt regardless. So they can't do much even if they build one or two. That's if you believe the ruling elites are pragmatists. If they are wild-eyed 72 virgins in heaven jihadist types, even one Iranian bomb could be dangerous because 'Muh martyrdom'.

We've known this for a long time.

>>31351886

That's what a grenade does? What a gyp!

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>>31351980
LIKE THE PROPHETS ONCE SAID

>>31351886
It's not like this is shocking news. EVERYBODY knows Israel has "secret" nukes. Pretty sure Opp at one point acknowledged he was at least aware about them.

>>31351886
Light reading, Israel has been nuclear capable since before 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu#Disclosure.2C_abduction_and_publication

>>31351886
Spoopy. https://www.damninteresting.com/the-vela-incident/

Also, you can't just summon Oppenheimer with something as passe as a nuclear armed Israel. You need something juicier, like the security implications of a nuclear armed North Korea.

>>31351886
First of all, that has been an open secret for like, decades, second, that's only like half of the highest estimates by like the Pentagon or CIA.

>>31351904
Well why would I worry? 200 isn't really a lot of warheads on the global scale (emphasis on warheads, nobody knows if they have the delivery system for all of them, and it's doubtful).
They're not exactly norkies, they've tried to keep quiet about it, but logically, they have them in case they'd get swarmed by Moslems, or scare Moslems into not trying that; "You better stay back, or else, goyim!" *wipes nose and takes another bite from his matza* "Oy Vey!"

>>31352172
Precisely why it shouldn't be worried about. We've got everything under control. Just don't forget the foreign aid we so sorely need for defense.

Unironically the best namefaggot on this site. But don't tell him i said that.

>>31351989
>That's if you believe the ruling elites are pragmatists. If they are wild-eyed 72 virgins in heaven jihadist types, even one Iranian bomb could be dangerous
I think the rulers of Iran have their shit too much together, they're one of the more functional derka derka nations, the anti-semitism is just harped on for propaganda purposes, I'm pretty sure.

Like, that Amedinejhad (or however it's spelled), he says a lot of shit, but how much does the Ayatola let him actually do?

>>31351886
Powell also said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Grain of salt, people.

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The point you autists are missing is not the fact that they have them (fucking duh) but that a ridiculously high-level american official had correspondence STATING THE EXACT NUMBER.

WHICH WAS HIGHER THAN A LOT OF ESTIMATES.

>>31352193
I legit see /pol/tergeists suggest that Israel's meager nuclear arsenal is some kind of ICBM of Democles and they'll end the entire world (the Samson option, which nobody knows exactly what it entails, probably NOT desperately lobbing a tiny amount of warheads at their allies or uninvolved nations for literally no reason), when really, they have MAYBE enough warheads to decimate most of their angry neighbors, maybe.

>>31351886
What are you summoning the OPP for? That's within common estimates.

>>31352301
It's also lower than a lot of estimates.

At the end of the day, how does it matter to North America and Europe? Let the arabs bicker with each other.

>>31351886
I remember estimates saying 250, so it's probably common knowledge in some circles.

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>>31352316

I think this is what you're looking for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

>>31352283
Iraq DID have WMDs, and we found them; they just weren't new ones. Mostly old leaking chemical weapons. Satin exposure is NOT healthy for US service members.

>>31351886
Slide it you fucking paid goys, what the fuck are you getting paid for?

This was on the front page. Expect a mass distro email tonight you failures.

>>31352316
they could dirty up their bombs to generate an absurd amount of fallout if they so desired.

>>31351886
Everyone knows that Israel has nukes.

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>>31352035
AND THE ASHES ARE ALL COLD NOW

>>31352434
Satin? Or do you mean Sarin?
>US troops poisoned by satin cloth.
>Sooooo Soft.

>>31352601
At least it wasn't velveteen.

>>31352434
>I have a car
>No you don't
>I *HAVE* a car but it's just the chassi, two wheels and a seat, it can't run. So I was right all along!

>>31352535
SNAKE EATEEEEER

(snake eater)

>>31352820
Except the old car still runs in your analogy.

>>31352685
God help them if it's plush

>>31352434
>>31352970
>what is the Iraq Survey Group addressing this exact question

It's time to put this meme to bed.

>>31351989
The thing is. Israel has no hope of riding out any kind of an attack.

>>31353032
>ISG didn't find anything meme

So why did Iraq declare a stockpile when it entered the CWC?

There is literally nothing wrong with israel having nukes. Israel is the only peaceful country in the middle east and should be allowed to defend themselves.

>>31352434
What about exposure to Velvet, or Cashmere.

>>31352087
more like 79 when they did their first test vela with south africa

>>31353174
There are fucking shills on k now?

>>31353266
>le slimey jewz are world dominating lizard people!!!!

>>31353266
>oh no, someone defended israel!
>That must mean he's a shill!

Give me one good reason israel should not have nukes. Israel is a close ally to the us and is the only good middle eastern country with western values.

>>31353266
.25 Jordinian Dinars have been deposited into your account.

>>31353266
>da joooooooooz and da JIDF and muh shills

>>31351886
Did anyone think that Israel DIDN'T have a nuclear arsenal? I mean, even just based on the geopolitical hotspot they forced themselves into and the nature of modern war having a nuclear arsenal is a necessity for deterrence.

>>31352820
A chasis with four wheels qualifies as a car, dingus.

>>31353448
>chicom nukes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqzNCmWigP8

>>31351917
I wouldn't worry about it.

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>>31351886
>USS Liberty, never forget

>>31351886
Only 200?

>>31351966
Hearty kek m8

>>31353807
I still dont understand how you manage to show up in every nuke-tread. Is there some kind of Bat-signal going of?

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>>31353807

Anything noteworthy with this story? Does the number of nukes or Powell discussing it hold any significance to you or is this just going to be used as another reference point for Israel's stockpile size?

>>31354002
>>31354019
That's not even the real Oppenheimer guys

>>31354002
iirc he said he keeps an eye out for those in particular

>>31352283
Dude, everyone everywhere has known the Israelis have had a nuclear arsenal since the 80's. It hasn't been debatable for
30 years.

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The question is how many boomers would it take to neutralize Israel if they ever run afowl of the US

>>31353174
Kys, kike lover

>>31354727
>US
>neutralizing Israel ever
Good joke my man

>>31351886
200 warheads or 200 missiles?

>>31355234
That is an interesting question, but I imagine a fair bit of those are for bombers too.

>>31354233
What nearly everyone doesn't know is that Saudi Arabia and Iran are already nuclear powers... Iran may very well nuke Mecca one day if hostilities continue to increase.

>>31352518
Dirty bombs are vastly overstated in their potential.

>>31351886
When is Israel going to let the IAEA inspect their nukes?

>>31351886
Yes. I read that.

>>31355894
They would need to sign the NPT first.

>>31354002
>>31354079
its simple. He puts the trip on when he needs it creating the illusion that he only comes out for nuke threads when in fact hes here 24/7 like the rest of us losers.

>>31356016
I search on the archive when I have time.

>>31352195
There is b00f, but Opp is great.

>>31356028
Real talk. How do you handle the stupidity that exists here? I know you try to correct a fair bit of it, but does it ever get to be too much?

Also, what other countries do we suspect/know 'secretly' have nukes?

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>>31355965
>>31355993
>>31356028

Now that the real one showed up, i'm copypasting what I already asked:

Anything noteworthy with this story? Does the number of nukes or Powell discussing it hold any significance to you or is this just going to be used as another reference point for Israel's stockpile size?

>>31356028
Seriously, just use google alerts.

That way you can instantly swoop in to knowledge that shit.

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>>31353807
>Oppenheimer is a skinwalker
IS NOTHING SAFE!?

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>>31353807


Glorious Oppenheimer appears!

>>31353817
Never forget.>>31353817

>>31353328
They sell weapons to the chinks.

>>31356150
>How do you handle the stupidity that exists here? I know you try to correct a fair bit of it, but does it ever get to be too much?
Sometimes.

>Also, what other countries do we suspect/know 'secretly' have nukes?
My opinion is KSA.

>>31356484
I really only do it when I have free time. These days I have less and less.


>>31356472
>Anything noteworthy with this story?
Functionally, no.
Diplomatically, yes, but nothing Earth shattering.

>Does the number of nukes or Powell discussing it hold any significance to you or is this just going to be used as another reference point for Israel's stockpile size?
It will be used by opponents of Israel and nuclear weapons in general, but nothing really more than that.

The same kind of minor uproar when the story about the commander of the 8th Air Force meeting Bush on the Tarmac at Barksdale during 9/11 and asked him where the President wanted the nuclear weapons and if he preferred original or extra crispy.
Hans Kristensen was apoplectic.

I would be much more interested in knowing how many China actually has.

The question is, what is their delivery capability?

Do they have ballistic missiles that can carry the warheads?

Second strike capacity?

How long does it take them to ready the warheads ?

Cruise missile warheads?

Submarine launched cruise missiles?

Air launched cruise missiles ?

>>31356783
400 to 600, lots of old liquid fuel missiles

>>31356843
>The question is, what is their delivery capability?
>Do they have ballistic missiles that can carry the warheads?
Yes
>Second strike capacity?
Eh....
>How long does it take them to ready the warheads ?
Unknown
>Cruise missile warheads?
Probably
>Submarine launched cruise missiles?
Probably
>Air launched cruise missiles ?
Probably not

>>31356843
They should have second-strike capability as long as their subs don't get taken out. I don't think any of their enemies really have the ability to reliably destroy all of their subs.

>>31356852
What would be the effect of detonating a 10000 megaton nuke on the surface of the Earth? I had a dream where I was a space marine in power armor and I had to blow up a wasp-alien hive mind that had a mothership the size of the moon. Would 10000 megatons be enough to crack that sucker into a billion pieces?

>>31352434
Never found, if there was any.

>>31357140
There were notable chemical weapon stores found:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chemical-weapons-found-in-iraq-nyt-report-135347507.html

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/04/03/army-seeks-to-identify-troops-veterans-exposed-to-chemical.html

>>31357105
if you have any type of interstellar vessel then you have the capacity to accelerate rocks to relativistic velocities and can destroy planets. if your drive does not allow you to sling rocks, in a pinch your ship would work.

>>31353807
Fucking nukewalkers.

This is why I don't venture out without a radiation suit.

>>31357105
Apparently someone asked something similar on yahoo answers.

>The diameter of the Moon is only just over 2000 miles (about 2150 miles), so the bomb would be very close to the center. In order to blow the Moon apart, you would need to overcome its gravitational binding energy. According to my calculations, the gravitational binding energy of the Moon is about 1.248*10^29 joules. 100 trillion tonnes of TNT equivalent is about 4.184*10^23 joules. So your bomb would still be too weak to blow up the Moon by a factor of over a hundred thousand times. It would probably cause a substantial earthquake on the surface, but likely would not deform the surface on a large scale, and after the vibrations subsided the Moon would be pretty much how it was before. If you were lucky you might make a crack on the surface somewhere.

>100 teratons
>10 gigatons

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>>31352535
NO MORE BULLETS

>>31353661

...No it doesnt

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>>31357105
>>31357241

Better call in the experts.

>>31353174
I'm not a fan of everything the jooish state does, but any country surrounded by muzzies is reasonable for wanting them.
>>31353266
>>31354775
No one gives a fuck about your annoying meme that you blame all your problems and failures on.
>>>/pol/

>>31353448
Wait, the Pakis have Nukes?
That's a scary though.

>>31355874
If you mean use conventional explosives with some nuclear material, yes. But salted bombs are legitimately scary things that can fuck up land for generations.

Questionable if they'd really do it given they would ideally roll into the land and settle it.

>>31357558
They've had nukes for decades, probably why they haven't been annexed by India at this point.

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>tfw we will never remove jewroach

>>31356774

There's no reason that Saudi Arabia can't have nukes. They can afford to buy anything they want.

>>31357558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPG4H3XUX1Q

Have fun Anon

>>31357241

people don't understand just how much fucking mass a celestial body has

try and calculate how much energy the giant impact would have generated. has to be like a 20 on the Richter scale

>>31356735
who have nukes already

Oppenheimer I live about 5 miles from DC city limits. In the event that DC gets hit with a nuke or a has a nuke detonated inside it, would I be better off fleeing in any direction from the epicenter or sheltering in place?

Also you told me in an earlier thread that the area near Thurmont, MD was not an ideal refuge in the even of a nuclear attack because of its proximity to Camp David and a STAR base or something. I'm trying to remember what you said specifically but it's just slipped my mind. Would that area in general be inadvisable to hole up during a nuclear exchange? If you had to start 5 miles from DC, where would you flee to?

>>31352283
They did. Now don't you feel silly.

>>31357740
>Thurmont, MD was not an ideal refuge in the even of a nuclear attack because of its proximity


Just run to the Cozy restaurant and pork out at the buffet. Die without paying, worth.

>>31357867
If I was in my hometown and knew I would die with no hope of mitigating circumstances within the next hour:
>head to my favorite italian restaurant
>order my favorite shrimp on angel hair
>die historically delicious

>>31357933
>angel hair

you deserve 10 nukes.

Fettuccine master race

>>31357740
Here is a FEMA report on a small scale nuclear detonation in DC. TL;DR sheltering in place initially is always a good idea.

http://fas.org/irp/agency/dhs/fema/ncr.pdf

>>31356852
>>31356774
I have to admit, Oppie, that of all the tripfags, you're the least faggy.
Keep doing you.

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>>31353325
>implying le slimey jews aren't world dominating lizard people

>>31357933
The easiest way to survive is just stay inside. You'd still be in the seismic effect area but as long as you make sure flammable things are away from Windows you should have a decent chance of survival of you have enough food for a couple weeks.

>>31351989
>As far as Iran is concerned, retaliation will hurt regardless.

Man,this "Iran Bad!"is the most blue-pill brainwashed shit.

>Iranians are fighting ISIS.
>Iranians are enemies of the Saudis.
>The Saudis pay US politicians to keep talking shit and treating Iran poorly.
>Israel benefits when all their neighbors stay in conflict and can't get their shit together.
>Israel doesn't like that there is a nearby nation that happens to choose the Palestinians over the zionists
>Saudis don't want Iranian oil on the world market.
>Iran would be/is potentially a far better ally than Saudi Arabia will ever be

Iran will attack Israel from Libya with a nuke. Israel will nuke Iran in retaliation. WW3 soon. Screen cap this.

>>31356577
whoever made this is genius

>>31359120
I was also of the impression that a lot of the younger people in Iran have a favorable impression of Americans.

>>31360051
If they grew up liking /o/ or /k/ stuff they're Ameriboos almost by default. Think of what's available in Iran.
>70s muscle cars
>F-4 Phantoms
>F-14 Tomcats

>>31359985
thank you

>>31359120
exactly this, sure Islam is retarded but Iran is miles more progressive then the Saudis, A Shiite dominated middle east would beat the current Sunni dominated shit hole it is currently any day

>>31360051
>>31360064
Main problem is that current administration rolled over every fucking time and got Americans pissed regarding Iran deals because they hate losing.

>>31360082
Iran still has mass "Death to America!" chants. Every time we catch wind of one the sanctions should go back in to place, and at least ten more mines added to their harbors.

>>31356774
>The same kind of minor uproar when the story about the commander of the 8th Air Force meeting Bush on the Tarmac at Barksdale during 9/11 and asked him where the President wanted the nuclear weapons and if he preferred original or extra crispy.
>Hans Kristensen was apoplectic.

source?

>>31356774
They're making you slip.

>>31353208
>>31352601
>>31352685
Kek

>>31358572

thanks lad

>>31357621
Are you muslim?

>>31352434
>Iraq DID have WMDs

Oy vey

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>>31359120
>>31360051
>>31360082
>US wants working relationship with new Iranian government
>Saddam on bad terms with US for going to war with Israel
>CIA approach Iranian foreign minister prior to the Iran-Iraq war, warning of Iraqi build up for invasion, suggesting the rebooting of Project Ibex to monitor Iraqi communications.
>IRGC is CIA-phobic because of coup that occurred under different administration 20yrs prior
>tell the CIA to pound sand
>Hostage crisis occurs one month later
>US sees Saddam as lesser evil, supports Iraq

>mfw US and Islamic republic of Iran were supposed to be allies.

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>>31357477
AND THE EMBERS ARE DEAD

>>31352195
Treadhead guy, don't forget him.

>>31360100
Most iranians now were born after the 79' coup that resulted in the country now. Nuclear deals were also met with approval across the country, they clearly want to move forward.

>>31360236
9/11 happened during GLOBAL GUARDIAN, which is a STRATCOM exercise. It tests the US' ability to launch it's nuclear forces.
To this end at Barksdale, they had loaded nuclear weapons on to several B-52's as part of the exercise.
Tom Keck was the Commander 8th Air Force at the time, and according to the recollection of Mark Rosenker, (Director of the White House Military Office), Gen Keck met them coming off AF1, and said "See those planes? Every one is loaded with nukes. Tell me where you want ’em."

Well this came out in an oral history this month. I cant remember who put it together, but Hans read it and posted on Twitter about it. He got very worked up about it, (as he tends to do).

>>31360238
?

>>31361578
far far far worse

he is from /pol/

>>31357621
Feels bad.

>>31361834
Why does Hans have a photo of him standing next to a B52 and it's crew? Do you think he's trying to imply he has the support of the military in his nuclear free quest?

>>31361834
>>31362102
*on his twitter.

>>31361834
>Keck

>>31352301
There's a fucking Tom Clancy book that puts the number at 200.

Nobody cares anon.

>>31361834
Oppen,

How do you think Israel developed its nuclear capability without testing/with very limited testing? Do you think a nuclear power gave them design details? Do you think they have thermonuclear weapons?

>>31357177
Rice said "mushroom clouds over new york".

This is nothing. Pre 1991 stores that weren't destroyed after the Gulf War, too old to be used as weapons. Appears to have been simply "lost" in a bunker somewhere.

Exposure of troops was during destruction of the remaining weapons.

>>31360051
The government are evil.

I hear universally positive things about the people.

>>31362147
>How do you think Israel developed its nuclear capability without testing/with very limited testing? Do you think a nuclear power gave them design details?
Yes. Their weapons are probably derived from the French AN 22 with some aspects of the MR 41. CEA-DAM was riddled with Mossad agents until the 1970's.

>Do you think they have thermonuclear weapons?
Possible but unknown. They could have gotten design information from the French because development of the TN-60 was well underway in the late 60's when DAM was basically a branch office for Mossad.

Will anything ever happen with North Korea?

I'm assuming nobody really gives a fuck about some dick-waving until some sort of nork revolution

>>31362421
Dimona is/was also a carbon copy of Marcoule basically.

>>31362559
Yes.

>>31360236

Fuck that's hilarious. Makes me want to send Kristensen a bucket of extra crispy drumsticks.

>>31355965

Oppenheimer, ever done any work in conjunction with a 2-star joint command out of the south?

>>31351886
Israel can have nukes, and if they could purge their ultra conservative sections of society it would be even better.

Puritans, Wahhabis, Hasidics, and the like dont belong in this era, dont contribute anything to society, and are fucking worthless.

>>31362625

>trying to get Opp to dox himself

>>31356843
They are believed to have a very limited second strike capability using modified Popeye missiles from their subs.

It's not enough to be a serious deterrent, but it's better than absolutely nothing.

>>31357558
Where have you been? India and Pakistan both did nuke tests a couple decades ago, and started building competing arsenals.

>>31359120
Iran is still the leader in terrorism directly supported by the government (as opposed to powerful individuals within one). They still chant Death to America all the time, and the leaders and their true-believer followers actually mean it.

Most Iranians would probably rather be our friends. However, they don't get much of a say; when they tried to object to that, Obama told them he'd rather "work with" the mullahs and let them get disappeared.

That worked out reeeeally well, too; at least, it did for the mullahs, who got everything they wanted, and are still going to make bombs anyway.

>>31361673
Welcome to the middle east, shluh. Iran used to be on better terms with Israel than Israel ever was with the US. They even had sketches of some kind of a plan to turn the mideast into the new economic, perhaps even cultural, center of the modern world by combining "the Jewish brain" with "Persian might". Same was with Jordan, until the king got assassinated for cooperating with Israel. And same with Lebanon, until the Prime Minister got assassinated for cooperating with Israel.

>>31362825
Israel is only 65 years old. Give them a century and they'll start sorting this things out.

>>31363040
>again

>>31361834
>tom keck

>>31361688
WHISPERS
IN THE AIR

>>31361834
>Tom Keck

>>31362147
didn't they work with South Africa?

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>>31353448
>Memecenter watemark

>>31357740
if you are at least old enough to drive which I doubt if you'd ask this question you would know you are fucked. lol good luck getting out of metro area within an hour just with normal traffic.

>>31357215
>>31356577
>>31356565
>>31354019
>>31354002

That isn't Oppenheimer, you fucking moronic newfags.

That cuckold is a phoney namefag without Oppen's trip.

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>>31365423

israel is a fucked up nation

should they ever go down in a war they will launch nukes against literally the entire world, they call it the "samson option"

just goes to show you the jewish mindset in action

>>31353328
Every other country: MAD
Israel: We will literally nuke everybody

>>31357177
Which chemical weapons make Mushroom clouds, holmes?

>United States Announces $38 Billion Israel Military Aid Package
US is the joos's bitch because the US is runned by joos, plain simple. Even if they do something wrong the government will just look the other way like good lap dogs that they're.

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>>31361834
>Top Kek was the Commander 8th Air Force

>>31367479
>We will literally nuke everybody
Thats not the Samson Option.

>>31363040

He wouldn't be doxxing himself.

Just because I have the clearance and have worked related projects does not mean I'd ever be read onto his level of stuff. I'm on the tactical level, versus his strategic level.

I bet I could rattle off a name he'd recognize if I didn't love me some opsec.

>>31353266
Hell yea. I'll take the Jews over muzzies any day.

Read the Koran sometime sport. They're not gonna stop till everybody is Muslim or a slave.

>Inb4 da Jews wrote the Koran!

>>31353817
Yeah. The heebs can eat a dick for that one.
Still better than mudslimes though!

>>31354727
Less than one I should think.

Not even half really.

>>31352172
It's spelled matzo, goy.

>>31368283
Jeebus Christ was a ... JEW!

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Just talk about guns and they'll get bored eventually.

>>31368937

FBI honeypot website, whos Jewing who?

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>>31363565
TELL THE TALES OF BROTHER GONE

>>31369199
Desolation, Devastation

>>31367451
>should they ever go down in a war they will launch nukes against literally the entire world, they call it the "samson option"
That';s not even true, why would you lie on the internet of all places...

>>31368924
>Israel
>Nuking LA and NYC
Thanks for the kek man, I needed it

>>31353328

Israel is a pretty shit ally to the US a lot of the time. Although they have a pretty good record of killing Arabs in conventional wars.

>>31372383
You know that, had Israel never been created, there would never have been radical Islamic terrorism (in the West). That shit developed as we know it today during the Lebabon War of the 80s.

GREATEST ALLY

>>31363040
>again

>>31372450
Proofs?

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>>31369328
What a mess we made, when it all went wrong

>>31352344
oil/OPEC

>>31359120
Replace the N with a Q and it's all still true. Didn't keep us from spending over $2 trillion invading them for no reason.

>>31353338
that's funny, considering Jordan is the only Arab nation that is basically OK with Israel even existing

>>31355234
200 physics packages
fewer than 50 MRBMs one warhead each, about 120 gravity bombs and artillery shells, sub-launched cruise missiles for the rest

>>31361834
I remember when that happened. I live in a neighborhood right next to Barksdale. Have lived here all of my life. I remember when nuclear weapons were accidentally flown over my neighborhood by a B-52 inbound from Minaut (probably spelled wrong) AFB in North Dakota. You could see AF1 land on 9/11 from a small park in the neighborhood DIRECTLY facing the main tarmac. I've heard about and seen alot of weird shit at and around Barksdale..

>>31372899
Minot

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>>31372906
thx bby

>>31362573
if you can find his address you can do just that via caviar, postmates, or another on-demand delivery service

>>31372906
How big is Minot anyway? Reason I ask is because I work at a warehouse supplying a store in Minot, and their shipments are often comparable to our Twin Cities north hub.

Chill the fuck out, Minot.

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>>31372921
you're welcome. have a pic of a nuclear bomber that never was, to keep this /k/ related

>>31372928
Minot is being used as a staging area for flights to Europe and the Middle East, afaik
so not big, per se

>>31353032
>put this meme to bed.
just make sure it doesnt have Satin sheets

>>31368855
DING DING! Aramean. Thanks for playing though.... and this concludes our show for tonight! See you all next week, on "Whose Holy Book is it, anyway?"

>>31368015
Former people who worked in israel govt said they have nukes aimed at european captials should they ever go down as a "fuck you guys too" sort of thing

>>31372499
Hello shlomo.

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>>31368937
Good goy.

>>31373020
Who?

>>31373020
Please go back to >>>/pol/

>>31373020
>Former people who worked in israel govt
Who?

>said they have nukes aimed at european captials should they ever go down as a "fuck you guys too" sort of thing
I highly doubt it and that's stupid and you should feel bad.

>>31373020
Which is very funny since the french (who built their capabilities together with israel) or the germans (who built their dolphin class subs) know everything that is needed to know about israel's nuke capabilities. Also, in Europe are the biggest jewish communities. Retaliation would hit hard, and this time there would be no such thing as
>"we're all cool dude I mean dude chill out dude lmao it's just a prank bro"

Now for the fun part :

EVERY major nuclear player able to deliver nukes has plans to deliver them EVERYWHERE on the planet. You think because great britain and the US are allied they don't have all the calculations made into their missile's flight control system to launch mirvs towards London or Washington ? Think twice. And everyone knows about it ! And they're all cool with it !

So the jews having presets to be able to launch nukes wherever they want is... sort of expected ? I don't know ?

There are way way way darker things about the israeli/jewish politics than this.

Anyway, I'm more worried about some islamic terrorist playing with a dirty bomb than this. Because I know neither France nor the UK would retaliate with nuclear fire in such a case. They would not know who to strike, and doing so would create an uproar in the muslim world.

Question is : what would israel do if they got a dirty bomb on their soil from an islamic terrorist cell operating from a nuclear capable european country ? This is an open question.

>>31373452

KI'll them with a .22lr in their sleep.

>>31372499
1982 Lebanon War, Beirut Barracks Bombing, Arab-Israeli conflict in general. Shit just went downhill from there...

You know, back in the Suez Crisis when we intervened against the Frogs, Kikes and the Anglos, many Mid East states actually looked at us positively, oh how that changed... and here we are today with the never ending wars with the sand people

>>31373452
>So the jews having presets to be able to launch nukes wherever they want is... sort of expected ? I don't know ?
Do you actually think, in any world, that Israel has ICBMs able to reach fucking Washington?

>EVERY major nuclear player able to deliver nukes has plans to deliver them EVERYWHERE on the planet.
You got an actual source on that? Because it sounds like something you pulled out of your ass, given, at least, that having calculations pre-done for absolute fringe contingencies against long-standing allies seems a tad silly.

>>31374100
Not the same guy, but I'm sure it's not hard to google coordinates and punch the numbers into a program.

>>31374029
>You know that, had the USSR/USA never been created, there would never have been radical Islamic terrorism (in the West).
>Supporting the KSA for oil, supporting and propping up the Shah in Iran to subvert the Soviets, vying with the Soviets over Israel, training "moderate" rebels in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, supporting Zi'am in Syria to secure an oil and subvert the Soviets further, the Soviets supporting the Arabs after Israel ditched Communism, the Soviets supporting a coup/supporting Karmal/fighting the rebels in Afghanistan

Stop being retarded. If you want to find the trigger point for modern terrorism, go back to the end of WW1 and the break-up of the Ottoman Empire. The complete and utter incompetence of partitioning it in a such a that completely disregarded ethnic, cultural, and religious groups/borders, resulted in an utterly FUBARed region full of pissed off Arabs. The already FUBARed place only became worse with outside nations vying for control and influence, with a basic irreverence towards self-determination and self-governance, and a raging hard-on for oppressive regimes.

>>31374135
Well, it's far, far, more complicated than that, but yeah, it doesn't take too much time and that was (somewhat) my point. We don't NEED to "have all the calculations made into their missile's flight control system". That's just ridiculous.

We can re-program our missiles (reasonably) quickly, not quickly enough that we're fine with leaving them all un-programmed mind you, but reasonably quickly. My point was that pre-calculating trajectories for the fringe contingencies of contingencies against allies is just ridiculous, there's just no reason to do so. Hell, we haven't even had nukes targeted towards Russia since 1994. We make determinations on the more likely targets we'd need to deal with and act accordingly, sure we could do the same with Britain and such, but, for the same reason we never updated our invasion plans for Canada, it's just that high on our list of priorities.

Now, I'll freely admit I'm not Oppenheimer-tier, so I'd actually like to get this confirmed/BTFO'd by him, but nothing I've seen suggests we've made preparations to nuke the UK, or any other of our nuclear-power allies.

>>31374211
>complete and utter incompetence
I think it was intentional, to create failed states that could only be stabilized by a dictator or a colonial power.

>>31362188
>Rice said "mushroom clouds over new york".
>>31367568
>Which chemical weapons make Mushroom clouds, holmes?
I realize you're probably samefagging but different anon here saying no, you don't get to pick and choose. The statement that "WMDs were never in Iraq" is patently false and he linked two articles detailing why. Old chemical weapons are still chemical weapons and chemical weapons are still, yep you guessed it, WMDs.

>>31361645
>Oy vey
Didn't know Sean Penn browsed /k/

>>31374317
>>31374100
>You got an actual source on that? Because it sounds like something you pulled out of your ass, given, at least, that having calculations pre-done for absolute fringe contingencies against long-standing allies seems a tad silly.
This is basic wargaming 101, people lost their shit a few years ago when it was """discovered""" that Canada had plans to invade the USA in WWII and some guy actually tested the theory. Why? During that time it was almost a real possibility that we might sympathize with Nazi Germany and Canada, being a Commonwealth nation, would need to fight us if that happened. At the time the UK/USA turbo friendship wasn't set in stone but it was highly unlikely that we'd swing that way so nobody took the idea extremely seriously. Even the actual act of "invading" was almost tongue-in-cheek but it did show how absurdly vulnerable the USA was at the time.

>>31352297
>Le funney /g/ Mac guy meme

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>>31354002
The Commissioner calls him on the Op-phone.

>>31376687
Truth. Canada had road-mobile strike teams ready to attack US cities that border Canada, such as Great Falls.

>>31376679
>This is basic wargaming 101
You've never done any kind of work related to that, have you?

>>31356843
ALCM's, SLCM, MRBM's, IRBM's, Jericho III ICBM's with 2-4 MIRV's, and tac nukes/ aerial nukes. No SLBM's - Israel has no boomers.
Their ICBM force shouldn't be too big, Israel has literally no fucking space to be laying out silo farms, most of their nukes are going to be on mobile launchers/aerial

>>31360082
I dunno, sounds shiity to me.

>>31374211
Kek you fell for my b8 m8

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>>31351886
>Colin Powell says Israel has 200 nukes
you down with WMD?
yeah you know me
who down with WMD?
every last homie

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>>31352316
I have always wondered about this, since all the big nuke players have satellites that track ballistic launches, throwing a few nukes about would just get Israel nuked off the map.
Also would this not invoke some sort of Anti-samson plan from the other nuke players? Such as if they are the victim of a nuclear first-strike, a few nukes will be sent Israel's way.

>>31380419
>Also would this not invoke some sort of Anti-samson plan from the other nuke players? Such as if they are the victim of a nuclear first-strike, a few nukes will be sent Israel's way.
Samson is a reference to the Torah (Old Testament), where Samson was chained up and doomed to die, but pulled down the building on himself and his killers as a final act of defiance. Samson Option means they're past the point of giving a fuck about retaliation and just want whitey to suffer for not protecting them like good goyim.

>>31376687
The UK was actually planning for a war with the US at the turn of the century with the concensus that it would occur in the late 20s or early 30s

>>31377511
>What are ICBMs on trucks.

Israel's entire ballistic missile force is truck based.

>>31380419
The Sampson option involves nuking Arabs. No nuclear power is going to lift a finger to save them if it means Israel might nuke them back.

>>31361578
No he's from /pol/.

>>31381414
That's Buéno, nuke the goat fuckers. But I have heard otherwise that isreal would attempt to trigger a global nuclear exchange if no world powers intervene to save them from annihilation by Arab zero rush

>>31380443
>Samson Option means they're past the point of giving a fuck about retaliation and just want whitey to suffer for not protecting them like good goyim.
[CITATION REQUIRED]

>>31383097
Heard from who? Because that's wrong.

>>31383097
>But I have heard otherwise that isreal would attempt to trigger a global nuclear exchange

From stupid dumbfuck anti-semites that (for some reason) prefer the muzzies over the only Western nation in the Middle East.

>>31381414
wrong. Israel will nuke all non-jews including the US

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>>31372589
WATCHING FROM THE EDGE OF THE CIRCUS

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>>31372589
I'M NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCLEAAAAAÀAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>31383280
you're missing a verse

>>31383236
[citation needed]

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>>31377511
>What is Popeye Turbo SLCM
That makes their Dolphin classes boomers

>what is Jericho III
That's right, it's Silo based

>>31381398
[Source needed]

I wonder when or what would cause Israel to use one of their nukes on Iran. I think to put an end to it's nuclear ambitions. KSA would nail them back if they would have nukes on their own, or am I completely wrong on that?

>>31352601
>Satin? Or do you mean Sarin?
It was a typo, anon meant to say:
>statin

US troops need them to prevent burger-induced heart disease

>>31355038
>>US
>>neutralizing Israel ever
>Good joke my man
It is but it's doing it very slowly and doing it culturally.

Most Jewish kids born in the USA don't give a shit about israel and are generally a bit sick of shenanigans. Most aren't even religious. That's why Israel has programs like the birthright tours and makes sites like J-date. Because kids are just being american like everyone else and eventually, Israel just won't have any significant influence in the USA anymore.

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>>31360051
>I was also of the impression that a lot of the younger people in Iran have a favorable impression of Americans.
That's why the emigrate. They just get fucked over by the government and the Iranian equivalent of rednecks if they don't.

There's a big rural, religious, conservative block. The urban kids are the cool ones and they go to uni and then get the fuck out.

>>31362144
>There's a fucking Tom Clancy book that puts the number at 200.
No one cares about Tom Clancy. Even Powell's estimate of 200 is probably basically a guess, just a rough ballpark figure given to him by analysts. Clancy gets that kind of figure third hand after bourbon and poker with some senator or something who half-remembers what he overheard it in a between-meetings piss in a men's room when better informed people were talking in vague terms about some other issue.

Clancy is a hack who writes gun porn, taking anything he writes as true-to-life is like thinking your girlfriend will enjoy being fucked in the ass like Sasha Grey.

>>31362191
>The government are evil.
>I hear universally positive things about the people.
This, I did an AI post-grad in some really cutting edge stuff and had several Persian class-mates. They universally called themselves Persian instead of Iranian which is basically code for 'fuck the government'. Iran is what the jyhadist revolutionaries changed the name to.

Nice people, fuck their government.

>>>/trv/ has a lot of people who have been their and really like the people and had a great time. It's pretty easy to visit if you're not USA and not always a problem even then.

>>31383883

I am not the United States of America

Am I good to go?

>>31368325
>Yeah. The heebs can eat a dick for that one.
>Still better than mudslimes though!
The USA shot down a passenger liner in revenge, be fair when you're casting blame.

>>31383893
>I am not the United States of America
>Am I good to go?
Well, if you're not Israeli, KSA or a few other ME nations that they're best enemies with, then sure. It's pretty safe apparently.

>>31351886
Daily reminder that nuclear weapons are mostly political tools. Just a friendly reminder.

>>31372952
You've never read the first chapter of Matthew, have you?

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>>31383267
FOR THE GAMES TO BEGIN

>>31377511
Have you ever heard of the Negev Desert?

Hint: It takes up like half of Israel.

>>31357558
It's even scarier than you know. Unsecured nukes being driven around cities in unmarked vans

>>31357558
The pakis are the only ones to have nukes at the tactical level under the command of field generals, in direct support of their ground troops. They are meant to be used if the Indians penetrate Pakistan territory up to certain limits and can be used at their own discretion once this point reached.

>>31383572
> what would cause Israel to use one of their nukes on Iran
Many years ago, when the Israeli nuclear program was still a hot, front page, topic, the Israeli prime minister was asked if he has nukes, to which he answered with: "Israel will never be the first country in a conflict, to attack with a nuclear weapon".
Israeli principles haven't changed much since then, so it's only logical the condition for nuking Iran is still the same: Iran has to try and nuke Israel, or otherwise conventionally defeat of Israel, which in Israeli terminology is "total and utter annihilation of the sate of Israel".