Hey /k/ I'm looking into buying my first rifle. I want something

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>>31349978

Buy the vz58 for maximum advantages

>7.62 barrier penetration
>chrome barrel
>milled receiver
>only 6.4 pounds
>bolt hold open
>can load with strippers or mag
>7.62 good for all targets, four legged or two. Durr and hog stand no chance
>sexy slav aesthetic

Sks

>>31349978
You are aware that the FAL/AR10 and VZ/AK/SKS are completely different kinds of .30 caliber right?

>>31349978
Get a 45-70 levergat or a .308 bolt action. Easy to carry, good for hunting. If hogs and SHTF are included in your hunting and "innawoods", get AK variant. If you get a .308 semi auto don't get a fuckin AR.

>>31350758
Yes, I am just trying to get a .30 caliber rifle in general though

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>>31349978
Get Vepr in .308.
Best of both worlds.

>>31350859
not op

why not 308 ar?

>>31349978
Just get an AR like all your friends you bandwagon faggot. Like you are ever going to use that shit anyways pussy.

>>31351247
Here's your reply

>>31349978
Those are kind of different OP

You're looking at an intermediate cartridge mostl likely (7.62x39) for the AKs and SKS and a lower price point ($350-600)

vs. a full power battle rifle cartridge (7.62x51 NATO) in the FAL, AR-10, and a correspondingly higher price ($1K-1.2K)

What's your need/budget? are you considering ammo price of one is twice the other ($.22 vs. $.50)? or that one gives you less ammo for same carrying capacity? weight of gun?

Something to add: You can get an AR chambered in pretty much any cartridge you want - up to and beyond .30 cal.

You can also get a G3 clone (PTR91/CETME/C308 that shoots .308 for $700.

>>31351645
You can assemble a .308 AR for much, much less, like $700 for everything.

>>31351716
true - but that takes some legwork, and OP said buy. I haven't seen an off the shelf AR-10 for less than about $750, and these are typically "optics ready" meaning you still have to buy front/rear sights.

>>31351716
how about a saiga 308? how much can those go for if you are aiming for budget?

>>31350389
All good, but don't forget the proprietary mags.

>>31351622
Thanks, and a .22 for you

>>31349978
FAL: Sick aethetics, badass chambering, accurate, runs like a thoroughbred, but relatively complex, lots of small parts, hates dirt, and ammo is expensive

AR-10: Cheaper than the fal generally, parts easily available, more accurate than the FAL generally, Generally its a baseline/benchmark of quality vs cost

SKS: Cheapest rifle here. One of the more accurate too, especially the para version. 7.62x39 is not nearly as powerful as 308win though, nor does it have the awesome ballistics.

VZ: Better than most AK's because its actually a military rifle not a parts kit knockoff.

AK: Like an SKS but more expensive with worse accuracy because semi-auto

Personal vote goes to a 308 Vepr. Make it a valmet clone too. Good ballistics because of the 308win. Good barrels, as good as the ar-10 if not better. Spectacular reliability, better than an AK because of the higher gas volume, so it blows the dirt right out. Simple, easy parts availability.

>>31350859
>Hog hunting
>Bolt action

Do you want to get hurt? That's how you get hurt

>>31352359
>>31351205
OP here. Might go with the vepr now, thanks. The ktr-03v looks like the best choice in the matter, just have to find one now.

>>31350389
cute doggos