Infantry Organisation

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For the record here is how the US Marines organise their infantry.

>>31342468
Too big imo. Why have a single soldier\marine with nothing but his rifle? But different doctrines of engagement I guess, each country to their own.

Imo, my idea of an ideal infantry fighting section\squad\team would be

- SL with 40mm
- Marksman\sharpshooter
- Grenadier\rifleman\AT Rifleman
- LMG gunner
- FTL with 40mm
- combat medic
- GPMG gunner
- GPMG assistant

But then again, this is what I was trained with and around, so it might be bias kicking in.

>>31342450
I like to point my gun at things and shoot them

>>31342772
Cunt?

>>31342814
nae

Is there any reason to use rifles or machine guns in an era where the XM-25 exists?

>>31342772
Big squads are nice for bounding overwatch and satellite patrolling.

>>31342865
>Is there any reason to use rifles or machine guns in an era where the XM-25 exists?
Well for one the XM25 isn't the M25 so it doesn't "exist" in the sense that the M4, M249, M240B, and others exist. For two the M203 didn't replace machine guns because replacing machine guns with a grenade launcher, no matter how cool, is retarded. Actually it's counter-productive, and you probably didn't think this one through.

>>31342450
my preference:
>two fire teams to a squad, composed of six rifles, team leader, and squad leader
>six squads, maximum, to a platoon, with a eight squad forming a platoon command squad lead by nco supporting platoon co
>thereon upwards composed of six elements plus a command squad and element co
>specialist teams, squads, or platoons may be attached/detatched/distributed/exchanged as teams on an ad hoc/temporary/permanent basis in order to augment rifle elements down to the level of the individual rifle

>>31342450
too big man, unless you're talking light foot infantry

a squad needs to fit in the ifv/vehicles. so 2 jeeps or one ifv aka 8 men.

a squad needs 40mm, possibility to take out vehicles, so some kind of LAW or AT weapons.
a guy with a little optics. and lmg/gpmg

so SL with rifle
grunt 1 with optics and law
grunt 2 with 40mm
grunt 3 with lmg
FTL with rifle
grunt 1 with optics and law
grunt 2 with 40mm
grunt 3 with lmg

a squad per platoon with 2 GPMGs instead of lmgs and a squad with dedicated AT instead of laws when needed

>>31342450
>10-man squad

SQUAD LEADER
40mm Grenade Launcher

ALPHA TEAM
Rifle
Rifle
Rifle

BRAVO TEAM
Rifle
Rifle
Rifle

CHARLIE TEAM
GPMG/SAW
Assistant Gunner
ATG

>Squad leader commands & lobs 'nades; Alpha & Bravo do bounding-overwatch while Charlie overwatches against major threats or flanks to bring the pain.

>source: former 11b

>>31345676
What kind of fucking special snowflake unit were you in to have a TO&E like that? Typical light infantry squad is 9 guys. SL, and x2 4 man teams each with x2 rifleman, automatic rifleman, and a TL. Typically your NCOs will have a 320 or 203.

>>31342450
I know one better but can't post it here.

>>31342450
>Does the US Marine Corps have the best system of organising infantry section/squad and platoon?

Yes, that's why the rest of combat arms does what they do, it has nothing to do with them being super special snowflakes that constantly have to justify their own existence.

>>31344624

That's pretty tarded

>>31344624
That poor platoon leader so many bodies to account for, so many moving parts to organise

>>31345676
Almost looks like early ww2 era squad organisation, how long ago do were you an 11b

Okay I really have no opinions on the rifle squads but the attached weapons platoons? They must take an a4 with them if they are a 240b gunner, smaw gunner, mortarmen, tow gunner.

All the weapons plts m4s and pistols will go to female sncos in the rear.

>>31342772
This isn't a fucking RPG not every squad needs a medic.

>>31349721
No but someone is often assigned to carry the med kit

>>31342468
Don't forget, rifle platoons generally have three squads, plus attachments from weapons platoon of generally one or machine gun team(s) and one or two rocket assault team(s). This adds a 240 and a SMAW or Javelin, and some demolition.

>>31342450
>What does /k/ think is the best standard organisation for infantry sections/squads and platoon
three-man 'patrols', three 'patrols' in a squad: first there is squad leader's patrol with squad leader, medic and DM,

then there is support patrol with patrol leader, machinegunner and a combat engineer,

the third patrol is "point" patrol and has patrol leader, machinegunner and a rifleman, everyone carries a LAW or two.

a rifle platoon has three squads plus a five-man FO -team

infantry company has three rifle platoons, command- and logistics platoon and a mortar platoon.

>>31344420
M203 didn't have the range or rate of fire or accuracy or ammo capacity to replace a rifle.

XM-25 will outrange rifles/machine guns, and be far more lethal.

I don't see the downside, other than yea, you no longer carry thousands of rounds to fire into the dirt during a firefight.

>>31342450
what is the US army system in comparison ?

>>31349721
And this isn't a fucking video game either, you dolt.

A combat medic doesn't necessarily mean he's a fucking doctor, just someone who's better trained in medical abilities and carries medical kit

Chair force cops use 13 man concept as well for squad, except one of the automatic riflemen caries the 240 instead of the SAW.

The saw gunners may or may not use a dedicated AG. In my experience they usually had a box of linked 5.56 or two on a fire team member, but they weren't really used as a true AG.

>>31349958
Everyone carries an IFAK. Only at the platoon level do you see a dedicated medic.

>>31344740
Nah you want grunt 1 40mm + LAW + claymore
Grunt 2 with enhanced optics
There is no reason for the SL/FTL to not have a 40mm as well. Could carry a few more smoke than gold tops for marking purposes.

>>31349958
Yeah one person, say 2IC or a marksmen can be a combat first aider. Done