Why do we still use this damn thing???

>>31341950
I don't think any nation has ever one a war, OP, regardless of the rifle they used.

>>31341950
>>31341963
We one the Golf War. And the War on Terrorists, we one that two.

>>31341950
because infantry rifle and caliber makes almost 0 difference in modern war. It needs to be just barely big enough to have enough lethality to scare the other guy into taking cover when you open fire, and to allow you to carry as much as possible. Infatry weapons exist to hold ground and keep enemies from over running airbases, armor, and artillery, not to win battles.

Small arms have reached their zenith until energy weapons of some kind come around.

>>31341989
Posts like this are a diamond dozen on this doggy dog imageboard.

>>31341950
Costs.

Replacing a service weapon and caliber would be expensive. We already have tons.

Why do you think Russians still use 7.62x54R, despite the cartridge dating back to the 1890's? COSTS.

>>31341950
Because it works? How much do you think it'll cost to replace it and every other 5.56 weapon in service? Are you mentally deficient? 5.56 works and will kill regardless.
It' being unreliable is a 70's meme and they wear out like any service rifle that's gone through 20 grunts.

If 5.56 was so bad nobody would even bother using it, inb4 they have to because NATO.

>>31341950
What's even worse is that with the 14.5 inch barrel every branch is now adopting the round might as well be .22 magnum, literally the same ballistics if you look it up.

You have to have a 20 inch barrel to make the round even remotely viable, so it does what it's intended to do, otherwise there's no point. in it.
>>31341996
Lol not even worth responding to.

>>31342008
Fucking hell this shit makes me ree

>>31342043
>Because it works?
mhmm, tell me please in your infinite wisdom, how this platform and round wasnt a cancerous mistake. I'll wait.

>How much do you think it'll cost to replace it and every other 5.56 weapon in service?
How much does it cost in comparison to bury a dead GI?

>Are you mentally deficient?
Ad hom because you dont have an argument
niiiiiice

>5.56 works and will kill regardless.
field reports state otherwise, stories of guys in iraq clearing rooms with their shitty 9mm berettas because the ARs they had sucked so bad with 855.

Think about that for a second, theyd rather use a pistol round than 5.56.

I wouldn't trust my life to this caliber, ever, hell id barely trust it to kill coyotes.

>being unreliable is a 70's meme
If its a meme, how come its still a common complaint?

>If 5.56 was so bad nobody would even bother using it, inb4 they have to because NATO.
What about turkey refusing to switch from 7.62 nato? or the other NATO nations that also complain about the same shit?

If you think NATO is anything other than "Team America" youre delusional, they use it because its basically free from us.

>>31342117
How about in your infinite wisdom, explain why 5.56 WAS a cancerous mistake?

All i see are anecdotes so far

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>>31341950
>shit grammar
>inability to understand costs of replacing standard issue rifle
>'us military a joke'

Yep. Bait.

>>31342117
Never said the round wasn't a mistake.
I doubt anybody has ever been killed in the last 20 years because of 5.56.
Turkey sticks with 7.62 because of the long engagement distances they have to deal with, same goes for a lot of areas in the middle east.
Never said NATO wasn't "Team America".
Got source for guys clearing rooms with pistols instead? The only logical reason I'd see that happening is due to the confinement of space.
And no the rest of NATO does not get ammo from the US.

>>31342117
The only mistake was that .280 British should've been adopted and standardized

But that never came to pass; we 5.56 instead, and it works well enough

>>31341950
A2 is kawaii.

>>31341950
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

>>31341963
>>31341989
>>31342008
Kill yourselves

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>>31342349
>having a feel day
This post is 12/10

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As much as I regret responding to this colossal bait post by OP, who probably doesn't own guns and isn't even American, I just can't help myself.

OP is a faggot and should khs for being wronger than anyone ever was before in the history of the world. He's literally completely mistaken. I could get schizophrenia tomorrow and hallucinate an orgy with 10 porn stars and it would be more realistic than the shit this guy is spewing. He's probably like 12 years old and think's he's hot shit though.

>>31341989
Keep /k/ great, 8/8

>>31341950
We don't win wars because we try to turn radically different cultures into our own. If we didn't abide by all these treaties and just forced submission we could easily conquer the places we've fought against.

Yeah the gun sucks but wars these days are fought by support. Infantry just draw out the enemies so they can get blown up from above. Their guns are just designed to suppress fire until support can blow everything up.

>>31342349
Too long ; did read

>>31341950
America Has won all the wars it has been in
Just look at the salute compared up the Brits
The hand facing out means that they have lost a war

>>31341950
Let me shoot you in the left leg with 5.56 and the right leg with 7.62, then try to differentiate between which one hurts worse. I know I'm falling for the b8 but there are people who actually believe this.

>>31342117
>id barely trust it to kill coyotes

You're stupid

>>31342067
But he's right. Support weapons do most of the real killing. A rifle is just to stop the support weapon crews from getting child molested. Sorry if that conflicts with your ONE SHOT ONE KILL OOH RAH moto bullshit.

>>31342117
Tell me this, if I shoot you with a 5.56, will you die?

>>31342008
can you be more pacific? I'm tryna lookit up in the meme li-bary.

>>31343615
It would be extremely painful.

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>>31344442
your a big guy

>>31341950

What should we use instead?

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>>31341950

>small arms win wars

this is the worst bait ive seen all day

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>>31342204
>.280 British
>not .276 Pedersen

>>31344444

5x4 u

>>31344444
Epic get

>>31341950
This is bait, but
>If all those things were true, it wouldn't be the most popular rifle on the civilian market, nor would other countries be buying them

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>>31344570
holy heck i didnt realize that get until now, thanks pal

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>>31344444

>liberals say that 5.56 is an armor-piercing babbykiller that make people explode
>shitposters say that 5.56 is a shitty meme round that can't even kill a fly
Then what the fuck is it?

>>31344644
A small bullet going pretty fast.
Liberals and shitposters are both wrong, hoss.

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>>31344444

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>>31341950
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News

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>>31344444
Damn, checked
I set up that post for a (4 you) and Lord Kek rewarded us.

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>>31344444
oh shit

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>>31344444
praise kek

bait thread lol

The AR-15 design is fine.

>>31342028
You mean 39

>>31345720
Nope, the 54r is still in use with their Dragnuov rifles and several of their heavy machine guns.

>>31341950

I have been a military member for quite some time and I love it.

>>31345720

>7.62x39
>dating back to the 1890s

they tried to replace it a few timeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Carbine

Holy shit niggers. 5.56 WORKS.
The Iseralies use it, and they don't fuck around with their defensive shit.
The Russians use 5.45 which is ballisticly similar. Now the fucking Chinks use 5.8mm. Not 6.5, Not 6.8, Not .270. They could have picked anything but they picked a 5mm caliber.
Fudds BTFO.

>>31342180
Not one person? I think some nightclub attendees might beg to differ.

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>>31341950

>>31342349
You literally are satan right?

>>31344644
Well for shooting babies it should be rather effective.
They have a low armor value

>>31341950
politics OP, do you want to know why wars are lost when every battle is a victory. it is simple politicians are great at losing the wars the soldiers win. The US could have phasers and go up against an Alien force armed with sticks and Obama would surrender

>>31342349
I'm not a stiggler for proper grammer, and quite frankly could care less, but your post is so teaming with mistakes, it's just garbledy gook.

>>31342117
>field reports state otherwise, stories of guys in iraq clearing rooms with their shitty 9mm berettas because the ARs they had sucked so bad with 855.
[things that never happened]