What is the most influential small arm of the 19th century?

>>31206930

Lebel introduced smokeless powder but I'd wager the Mauser action was the most influential.

>>31206970
If youre going to give a bad opinion, at least include your bad reasoning.

Mauser 98

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>>31207020
This

>>31206994
The Mauser action is still the most common action over a century later?

>>31207048
Smokeless powder is used in nearly every modern firearm

>>31206994

There are still firearms using derivatives of the Mauser action to this very day. Dozens of countries used Mausers for almost a whole century. The Lebel is basically only remembered by a few because it was the first service rifle to use smokeless powder.

I'm going to go with Gatling gun on account of it was a proof of concept and began the fire superiority trend.

Crew served ROF pieces really made 20th century warfare, so this was kind of a writing on the wall thing I think.

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Not so much this exact gun as the issues it represents, being the first pistol manufactured under the Rolling White patent.

That patent and the fact that Smith and Wesson had exclusive rights until it expired, helped hold back pistol firearms development for a long time.

>>31207028
Colt was no angel either, because his patent on the revolver itself held back firearms for a long time as well, especially because he was a pretty litigious man.

It was their right to exercise their patents, but there is no doubt many firearms manufacturers were held back for years due to that.

>>31207074
Just because it was the first to utilize a smokeless powder doesn't make a rifle influential. Smokeless powder was coming regardless of what rifle it was used in. How many rifles use Lebel actions or the round today compared with how many use Mauser actions?

>>31206970
>>31207020
>>31207047
>>31207048
>>31207079
Modern guns are based on the Mauser because the Mauser was used by numerous countries, but they were only used by Numerous countries because of the marketing genius of Paul Mauser and ludwig loewe/DWM. It has nothing to do with how great the action is or anything. It's not that strong of an action, and it's not simple to manufacture nor is it simple in design.

The Mauser 98 action wouldn't have even been produced hadn't the German government adopted the 89 action, or the 91 action, or the 93 action, the 94 action or the 96 action. Getting a German army contract was what all Paul Mauser was trying to achieve.

>>31207134
Just because it was the first to utilize a three lug forward bolt doesn't make a rifle influential. Forward third lugged bolts was coming regardless of what rifle it was used in.

>>31207134
Just where do you think Mauser got the idea for forward lugs?

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Sure literally one came before it, but this was successful, and spawned the C96

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Pin fire guns.

Metal cartridges changed everything.

>>31207134
>Just because it was the first to utilize a smokeless powder doesn't make a rifle influential.
Lolwut? You do know that the Lebel rifle caused a big scramble by all the other country in the world to get a rifle that used smokeless powder overnight as their rifles were now obsolete? What did the Mauser cause when it was introduced?

>>31207134
>How many rifles use Lebel actions or the round today compared with how many use Mauser actions?
The Mosin is a Lebel derivative ;^^)

>>31207305
The Americans to stop using Krag Rifles

>>31207315
Yeah, but the Krag was unjustly blamed for that. The Mauser wasn't any better than the Krag, it was that the Army couldn't accept that their tactics were at fault.

>>31207244
Also the first handgun to have a detachable box magazine located in the grip.

Winchester 1894

>>31207364
It was more that peasants had stripper clips and the Krag didn't. They honestly could've stuck with the Krag and updated it

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Red Ryder BB gun.

>>31207379
Even with stripper clips it wasn't that much different. The Army brass also changed the ammo and were thinking like the black powder days that bigger bullet = better performance and locking lugs started cracking left and right. That put another nail in it's coffin.

>>31207155
>salty mosin-Nagant fag

>>31207155
>M-Mauser is b-bad!
>moist action p-perfect!

Nugget.

>>31207436
>>31207461
>>31207609
literally samefag

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>>31207155

The combination of the Model 1895 Mauser and the 7×57 cartridge also developed by the Mauser company during the 1890s was a winner.

Lessons learned from conflicts such as the Boer War sealed the deal and made Mauser an major influence on other battle rifle designs until the end of WW2.

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>>31207725

>>31207725
>Lessons learned
No, not really. They didn't learn anything. The British blamed their rifle after the Boar War, as did the Americans after the Spanish American war. It wasn't the guns, it was the tactics. The British found out their rifle wasn't bad at all in WWI.

Anything Spanish America, Africa, or Balkan States and China is anything Mauser has touched.

>>31208331
mind repeating that in english?