Sharkbite-proof chainmail

>>31205694
i thought chainmail was slash proof not puncture proof

>>31205694
25grand for some chainmail?
dis for real?

>>31205694
Are you sure he's not just wearing it because he doesn't want to offend the suspect?

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>>31205712
Apparently is fucking mythril tier from the looks of it
Pic related, compare the size of the rings to the sharksuit
idk if it would be better for heavy duty combat or not, which is why I ask

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>>31205719
I laughed harder than I should have

>>31205710
this. A shark bite is usually puncturing.
It's the police OP, I'm sure they have done some kind of testing that lead them to the belief they need a 25k suit and not a 3k one

>>31205712
that shit is super hard to make. the vast majority of that cost is labor.

>>31205710
smaller rings stop tips better but are much more labor intensive and less resilient to slashing with heavy weapons.

Titanium is a lot stronger than iron, that really would have been mythril in 1400.

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The one good thing that I can think of about effective gun control, is that people would have swords and stuff. Unless its long bong-land that bans butter knives.

Guns equalized the criminals with the citizens, because otherwise it would be a rusty knife wielding ruffian VS a chain-mail and long-sword wearing Citizen.

Now the balance of power in society has flipped.

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>>31205710
Shark suits are tight weaves. Machines can weave smaller rings together than medieval armorers. most modern knives are not suited to stabbing.

>>31205694
>the delegates dahnald

>>31205694
This is why I like America. We would never go for some bullshit, rather just shoot the fucker and be done.

>>31205694
Shouldnt he wear a helmet instead of that coif thing?

A damn visor can help you more than an eye slit.

>>31205712
>>31205736
What pisses me off is the menial cost of materials with such a fucking crazy high markup. Yeah I understand people value their time enough to buy it but that still doesn't make it any less fucked up. They can just keep jacking it up to because literally nobody has the time to do that shit themselves.

Someone on /k/ needs to train some of these basement dwelling autists on here metallurgy so we can have a collective weapons fund from selling shark-proof fursuits then open up a museum and buy up melt lots of funs.

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>>31205750
Sharksuits (chainmail wetsuit) are legit and incredibly effective. Sharks are not used to biting hard prey, it's strong enough to take some bites which is enough to convince any shark to get the fuck out. Of course, if a shark actually was determined to just kill a person they'd succeed eventually, likewise it'd be effective against a knife stab but it wouldn't necessarily stop someone determined to kill you (repeat stabs would puncture it). It's probably the best thing that exists for it though

>>31205694
Why not slash his eyes?

Does he wear goggles normally?

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>>31205694
well, regardless of material and manufacturing technique used, the design of chain mail protects the wearer from slices and and mild punctures

doesn't do shit if the assailant has a bat or hammer
a hefty enough blade will also fracture bone upon impact and something like a spear, arrow, or ice pick (depending on weave) can break links and draw blood

in short, even with armor, don't get hit

>>31205763
>Titanium is a lot stronger than iron

By weight maybe, but not for the ring size.

>less resilient to slashing with heavy weapons

Does that really even matter since an axe strike can likely knock you down while the attacker takes another strike?

>>31205809
A pissed off KSK soldier is approaching you wearing chainmail and you have a 5 inch gerber folder, do you poke at his eyes or give up before you get power bombed?

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>>31205836
>polizei
>KSK
pick one. This niggas more than likely SEK.

>>31205836
If I was acting for Allah, I don't think I'd care.

What weapon does he have?

>>31205694
Is RingMesh products not strong enough for them?

>>31205864
*Are

>>31205802
Couldn't they just use jaw power to crush the person?

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>>31205853
>What weapon does he have?

4 years of collegiate wrestling

>>31205901
Bite a spoon or any other metal object and tell me how that feels

>>31205719
lol

>>31205905
Well then you should know when someone's facing you it's not a fucking German suplex and adjust your pic related accordingly nigger

>>31205901
They could if they really wanted to, but they don't want to.
Sharks don't attack people out of malice, they usually just think people are seals and then they nope the fuck out once they realize their mistake

>>31205799
holy shit this

>>31205694
Could get a gambeson, some maille and plate for less than that

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>>31205799
It's offsetting the industrial steel mesh machine that is making the sheets of welded mail

Also you can get a butcher's mail shirt for a few hundred dollarydoos so I don't know where 25k is coming from besides graft a la $500 hammers

If Germany was cool they'd have a "bladed weapon attacker" unit made up of guys in fitted repro Sigmund of Tyrol harnesses that beat the shit out of the guy with 40" truncheons

But the German caliphate is too PC for that

Why not 6 guys with pump action bean bag shotguns? Broken ribs don't really help your motivation.

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>>31205934
do sharks have much 'feel' with their teeth what with them having multiple rows at the ready? Tiger sharks eat turtles and what not. imagine that's not pleasant on teeth

>>31205934
You mean bite a popsicle wrapped in aluminium foil?

>>31205950
wut?

>>31205967
Once it's paid off 115,000 times over the price still goes up because

>HUEHUEHUEJACKTHEPRICESUPBECAUSEFUCKYOUYOULLSTILLBUYIT.jpg

Capitalism has no inclusion of moral ethicism anymore which is the foundation of it not becoming shitty. This saddens me deeply.

>>31205790

Mhm. Even when there is like 15 cops, half have bean bag shottys, the rest have takers and spray they can use...instead they all ignore non lethal force and just mag dump into him...better safe than sorry :D

>>31206037
It never did have anything moral about it. What the fuck are you own about? Capitalism is what employed kids in factories where people lost fingers, eyes and killed people. No one gives a fuck. We would lock them in until the work day was over and that's how tons of people were killed in fires.

That said it's still better than any flavor of socialism or communism which it appears either you support or maybe it's just you never took a history class

>>31205901
They jaw power is pretty low from what i've seen. Like, a attack dog has a stronger jaw. Could be bullshit but when your toots are rasorblade level, you don't need much power, right ?

>>31205957

Pretty much this. They are too curious to go for a full force bite, so they kinda nibble at you to see if it's worth full on attacking. Even then they don't always bite, if any thing they kinda butt you around with their head first, than go for a nibble.

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Or

They could do like Asian nations and use Sasumatas to deal with blades.

Everyone in Japan knows how to use a sasumata.

>>31205802
LEWD

>>31205694
>My question for /k/... is this shark bite-proof chainmail suit better suited for medieval style combat compared to traditionally made armor? Even if the latter is made with modern materials?

yes, bein machine welded stainless steel it is mechanically stronger than period maille which was riveted rings made from drawn iron wire alternating with solid rings punched from sheets. that getup is ridiculous though. the throat and eyes, the most vulnerable parts are totally exposed a 15$ broom will do a much better job.

>>31206034
Not even that anon but if you don't know what a fucking German suplex is, you need to lrn2fight

>>31206069
Chances are this is just shot posting
But serious that's not even close to how that works.

Typically they don't go lethal until lethal is presented to them. Not just oh he has a knife shoot em. Usually they will not shoot until the knife wielder begins closing distance.

Obviously there are exceptions.

>>31205710
It's a misconception based on thinking cheap replicas are comparable to decent mail...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3lcgIAwLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl-ec6Ub7FM

>>31206069

Depends on the shark and such. A giant mastiff has a bite force of around 300 psi, while a great white is around 650.

Not really the psi you got to worry about, it's that thrashing motion they make. Three set of teeth (depending on shark, some don't have that many row of teeth) just slicing back and forth across you like a saw.

>>31206037
Buy a RingMesh vest if you want chainmail.
Fuck the Krauts for letting their country come to this.

>>31206093
>sasumata
I actually saw one of these for the first time on the show Blue Bloods yesterday
Looks pretty effective if you have numerical superiority and armor

>>31206068
The reason it wasn't shit when it was inoculated there was a social prescription in a higher regard to moral ethics which is why people keep getting shittier as they push Marx on us.

>>31206149
>armor

the whole point of the long pole. is to avoid the need for armor.

>>31206112
no, about labeling pictures and facing shit

>>31205694
Duncan Idaho. You can stab this guy but not quickly. The design presupposes control of the situation: if he's outnumbered and surrounded, the armor is useless.

>>31206145
Yeah true. I see what you're talking about. Thx for the comment.

>Being into armor and shit, I know 'battle ready' titanium mail shirts only cost around 3-4k

You're a fucking moron.

>>31206239
http://casiberia.com/product/titanium-mail-haubergeon-48in/ab2480
Are you saying I lied or that maybe they are cheaper somewhere or what

>>31205710
Chainmail will stop any knife wider than the rings. So unless they're coming at you with an awl or similar, it will stop most things.

>>31206357
Or a katana, katana can cut steel beams.

>>31206298

He didn't say you lied, he is just calling you a moron for what was said.

Also looking at the website, you're missing a lot of the set. Head, rest of the forearms, gloves, legs, boots.

Also that shit is cheaper cause it's made in India, not here in the u.s. so of course that alone will decrease the price.

>>31206555

Plus trips don't lie.


Also looking at both armors, the shark armor is a very fine mesh, while >>31206298 is not fine at all.

>>31206149
That one episode with the guy screaming for jamie
> Jammiieeee jammmmmiieeee :'(:'(:'(

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>>31205719
thank god that was epic !

>>31205694
It looks like a fucking burka

>>31205750
>I'm sure they have done some kind of testing that lead them to the belief they need a 25k suit and not a 3k one
That testing being "we budget like the government, so the more money we spend now is more money we get to spend later."

>>31207279
Mate. I'm muslim and he looks like a Crusader.

>>31207279
>>31208235
Fitting, considering Christians and Muslims are basically the same thing, then.

>>31208270
You're out of your fucking mind.

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If knife-wielding attackers were smart they'd up their game to a pike along with a knife

>>31205694
am i missing something?

what is the point of shark bite proof chain mail? you'll just sink to the bottom and drown before a shark gets you, then the fish will eat you.

at least sharks are cool.

>>31208992
Because they don't weigh an actual shit ton, and you usually have scuba gear on too

>>31205967
>Germany was cool they'd have a "bladed weapon attacker" unit made up of guys in fitted repro Sigmund of Tyrol harnesses that beat the shit out of the guy with 40" truncheons

Stop! My penis can't take any more of this

>>31209076
you're still going to die, though

>>31209169
No you won't. Shark proof maille has been around for quite a while now, and it's been demonstrably proven to be successful.

>>31205750
>It's the police OP, I'm sure they have done some kind of testing that lead them to the belief they need a 25k suit and not a 3k one

Probably has something to do with titanium not rusting as much as steal / less maintenance, buy a 3k suit,
>don't pull it out of storage for a while
>full of rust when you do.
>Time for a new suit
>new 3k suit, tech 6k total
>now goes into storage doesn't get pulled out for a while
>pull it out again
>great it's raining outside
Material lighter than steel
not a ton of manufacturers for it
>>31205799
Then they buy a cheaper material and the first time there is an equipment failure and everyone is up in arms screaming about how they waste money on junk that gets people hurt or killed

>>31209238
yeah, but you are still going to die.

>>31205770
>the common member of society in medieval europe allowed to walk around with chain mail and sword
nope. it was like feudal Japan, only the warrior class was allowed to do that with few exceptions. normal people would carry daggers and brigands would carry pikes and swords. Guns have flipped the balance of power in favour of the common citizen and order.

>effective gun control
I live in Canada. Somalians in my high school had Hi-Points which are prohibited due to barrel length here. Nuff said.

>>31209293
How so?

>>31206068
Capitalism and Communism are just as bad as each other without justice and democratic processes.

>>31209293
of course, but that's a separate matter

>>31206037
>>31209368

They're both purely materialist ideologies, which is why they both suck taken to their logical conclusions. Nobody reads C.S. Lewis or Plato anymore, dammit...

>>31208298
Oops your trip is on

>>31206064
Better a dead peice of shit criminal than a live one about to be punished with free room, board and medical. But whatever criminals are like oppressed and entitled right?

>>31205710
>Maille won't stop a stab
When will this meme end? Leather will stop a slash, somewhat thick cloth with stop a slash, if maille was only good for slashes no one would use it because the only thing it would do was add unneeded weight.

>>31205905
so you mean a single kick and he is thrown off and looses the fight?

>>31209694
It's weak to stabs though, or, at least weaker to stabs comparatively vs the weight added I should say. 50 lbs of thick leather(yes I know it's unrealistic just bare with me) would probably be better against punctures than a 50 lb chainmail.

>>31205712
its composed of titanium hence the large price tag

>>31205736
this pic is so cool, like historically. you got any other pictures of these guys? or other pics of dudes stuck in the middle ages?

http://www.forestershop.com/orange-chainsaw-protective-bibs-sbibo.html?productid=orange-chainsaw-protective-bibs-sbibo&channelid=FROOG

I figured they would use some sort of suit like this. Lighter and just as slash resistant. Maybe a couple stab proof panels over vital areas.

>>31205694
I knlw I'm not the only one who lurked this thread for the video of bathsalt boy 2.0 vs ironkraut

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why not go the whole mile and get good armor? Wouldn't cost nearly as much and would provide better protection. A guy with a bat could BTFO the guy in chain, at least with plate he'd have a chance

>>31210378
>Krauts in full 16th century plate armor and and long swords vs. hood rats and junkies
Fund it

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>>31210389
you could probably subcontract it to the Russians, let them practice for Battle of Nations on squishy opponents

>>31206140
Gods those guys in the first video look exactly like clapistanian hillbilly white trash and they got the accent to match too.

Makes the video so hard to watch even if the substance is good.

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Time for Swiss Mercenaries.

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>>31205694
Yes deus vult brothers

>>31208770
seems like the ATF traditions go a long way back

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>>31205802
>tfw you discover a new fetish
brb going to watch Heavy Metal

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>>31205694
What I want to know is what kind of psychological effect seeing a Frenchman in shining mail armor has on a Saracen.

>>31211511
Lold

>>31209312
where tf did you go to highschool?

>>31209313
sorry to leave you hanging, i went to sleep.
i don't know, anything could do it really.

the chain mail is really cool.

>>31209253
>Probably has something to do with titanium not rusting as much as steal / less maintenance, buy a 3k suit,

I know reenactors and have insight into the armour reproduction bizniz. Modern HQ armours are sometimes made from modern stainless spring steel. They don't rust. A stainless suit by famous Plattner Ewalt Tanzer would cost 10-15k€ upwards.

>>31205901
The jaw power of the great white and tiger shark is pretty crazy, if your in the water you'll be in trouble still.

>>31205934
Sharks regrow their teeth, you will still be dead.

>>31205694
Is that a high-tech burka?

Why not plate?

>>31212844
probably because you can don mail armor by your self in a minute. While a full plate harness takes several people a long time to get one person dressed.

>>31212747
Most people bitten by great white sharks live, because most shark attacks are "exploratory bites".

A shark's mouth is his most sensitive manipulator organ, most white shark attacks are a single bite without any follow up, because they are expecting something fatty like a seal, not like any normal human surfer.

A human body in mail is not going to give the great white any "proceed with attack" indicators.

>>31205832
>since an axe strike can likely knock you down
No.

>>31210088
Yes, that is exactly why people throughout the ages preferred to wear leather instead of the vastly more expensive chainmail.

Sigh.

https://myarmoury.com/feature_mail.html

>>31212852
>While a full plate harness takes several people a long time to get one person dressed
Eh, nowhere near that much. Mail is still a lot easier and quicker to don, though.

>>31210378
>and get good armor
>implying mail isn't good armor
Fucking platefags, I swear.

>>31206093
>>31205694
Why not just fucking shoot them like we do in America?!?!

>>31210389
>hoodrats and junkies
You mean Jihadists and autists, right?

>>31212896
Have you been hit with an axe?

>>31205851
>MP7 with BT stock

hnnnnggg

>>31213644
Combat axes are pretty thin. They have nothing in common with felling axes.

>>31213103
Do you really need someone to explain to you why hundereds of people killed by law enforcement everything year is unworthy of a civilized Nation with a functioning legal System?

>>31214312
>someone has a deadly weapon with the intent to fuck you up
>not just dropping them
I'd rather hundreds of dead gang bangers and druggies than more dead cops

>>31205694
>Problem with stabbers?
>Since we're cucks and are not allowed to shoot these fucking people, we're just going to spend 25k on mithril chainmail sets
>Instead of hosing these faggots with a fucking firehose
>Or buying a few spears, surrounding the faggot, and then beating the shit out of him from a safe distance

Seems like some germans just wanted to pretend that they're knights, so they decided to invest in mithril chainmail.

>>31214337
Fucking this

>>31214312
>Violent criminals have a right to life!
>If violent criminals with knives show up, I'll just use my incredible CQC skills to disarm the knife wielding mad man
>This has never resulted in anyone ever being stupidly killed because they couldn't just shoot someone with a knife

>>31214337
I'd rather have dead gangbangers and druggies to, but not everyone is a gang banger or a druggie.

Sometimes (actually a lot of times) a downy will go on a tard rage and pick up a baseball bat or something. Does the downy deserve to be shot?

>>31213802
how often do people have battle axes?

There was an axe attack in Germany, I assumed he was using a fire axe or felling axe, rather than a custom made medieval battle axe

>>31214767
>how often do people have battle axes?
Now a days almost as often as they have felling or fire axes. People don't really have axes now a days unless they live out in the woods or go /out/

>>31205802
Also sharks are very sensitive to electricity and biting it is like biting a tinfoil x100

>>31206421
I've been hit with a katana while wearing chainmail. It doesn't do anything and that meme is stupid.

>>31209520
Plato provided the intellectual foundation for socialism. The european rediscovery of the Aristotlian method is responsible for the enlightenment, science, the rule of law, freedom of religion, innocent until proven guilty, equal civil and political rights for all humans, and all evidence based thinking, (i.e. the scientific method.)

The only thing objectively good that Christianity has given us is the de jure abolition of slavery worldwide. (Stamping it out in practice is a little bit trickier.)

Before the rediscovery of Aristotle, Christianity was just as backwards and disgusting as Islam is today. In 1100 CE, France was controlled in the same manner as northern Iraq is today.

>>31213644
> an axe strike can likely knock you down while the attacker takes another strike?
Take notes on proper crowd control equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ob95SxIpw

>>31205694
who the fuck makes titanium mail?
>that shit is so hard to work with im calling bullshit.

did germans forget that guns exist?
why wear any armour?

>>31205694

Do they not have tazers in Europe

>when they have to subdue a blade wielding suspect

What's wrong with heavy leather? Surely that would be cheaper and at least as effective.

>>31216665
Leather armor is more expensive and heavier. Life ain't a fantasy RPG.

>>31205750
Yeah, and American Police departments don't change service weapons and calibers every 20 years to inflate their budget.

>>31205694
only in germany...
i bet in murrica they would just shoot the knife wielder and all around him to be sure nobody picks up his knife.

>>31205816
>doesn't do shit if the assailant has a bat or hammer
wrong tho i have been in a fun fray wearing chain shit replica too butted and all.

it's very surprisingly effective against blunt trauma especially if it's padded under. the physics of this is as you push in the chain it lifts several pounds of steel taking the force out of the hit very effectively as the crushing blows try to focus impact into a very narrow time window to be effective. if the force is distributed in area and time it's effectiveness is greatly diminished.

but it has to hit something soft for this to work obviously works best on the sides less on the shoulders from above.

>>31205934
Wrap an uncooked stake in chainmail and bite it then get back to me. Retard.

>>31217038
steak*

fuck.

But then again go bite a stake after you bite the steak. It'll highlight why saying "bite a spoon" is retarded.

>>31205816
>a hefty enough blade will also fracture bone upon impact and something like a spear, arrow, or ice pick (depending on weave) can break links and draw blood
chains were not worn on naked skin silly anon. do you not know what aketon/gambeson is?

>>31214552
Yes absolutely.

Welcome to Darwinian selection.

Why should more valuable healthy people risk their lives for these genetic rejects?

Keep in mind these people risking their lives have their own families that care about them too.

>>31205694
Deus Vault?

>>31215077
>plato
>socialiasm

HAHAHAHAHA

Did you even read the republic?
The well ordered society he had in mind was quite restrictive in terms of individual freedom because he said it lead to lawlessness.
Plato was as classist as you can get.
Believing that everyone had their own role in society to play and that some people were more noble than others.

Plato if anything is an argument for authoritarian rule.

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Has this ever been tried?

>>31213802
>>31214767

Did I ever say anything about a "battle axe?"
I'm talking about a real axe.

>>31217668
It would be pretty dope. what with modern tech, you could make a neat sword or pike that outdoes all predacesors.

>>31205967
>those shoes
that'd be worse than trying to walk in fucking flippers

>>31218496
>Walking
Look at this peasant!

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>>31215633
Machines you dumb cunt

>>31218035
>>31214804

>>31211624
under rated post.

>>31211624
>brb going to watch Heavy Metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQE1Q1NILfQ

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>>31205770
Shit tier bait but you got someone to respond.

>>31205694
>assailant doesn't have a broken knife
>get stabbed

Why is Germany so pathetic and incompetent?

>>31215582
looks like a kids fight, better is this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTr9GU7rsU

>>31205786
Underrated post
kek

>>31205786
Oh my god. Like I just. Can't even. Seriously. Get out!

>>>/pol/

F*ck you you disgusting white NAZI loser!

>>31218496
>his shoes don't have peasant prodders

>doesn't notice they have a quick release for foot combat

>>31209671
Yes, good goy, everyone who breaks the law should be villified and denied rights.

>>31208298
>christians
>hate gays, hate anyone who doesn't agree with them, fight entire wars for their god
>muslims
>hate gays, hate anyone who doesn't agree with them, fight entire wars for their god

Phil, you are fucking stupid, and I'll say it right now, the only reason you don't hear about Baptists blowing themselves up for the lord is that they're too comfy and pampered to do it, not because they're some sort of 'morally superior' religion.

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>>31210171
They look like Khevsureti, or some other valley dwelling Georgians.

They're fairly typical highland people, very strong sense of hospitality, but hold grudges and are pretty violent.

Pic related, traditional village which is basically a series of fortified towers.