Lasgun

>>31198290
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Lasgun

>120-200 shot worth of battery power
>can be recharged using generators, heat, or even the sun
>power of a .22LR to a .50 cal depending on what setting it is on as well as fluff
>no recoil

Only problem is that is significantly under powered for the universe it is (that's the point though) and if someone lays down a smoke grenade or something it can reduce the power of the laser significantly.

>>31198339
Yeah, it is a great gun, but the fact that everything on WH40k is so god damn overpowered makes it useless.

Also, you forgot the best part:

>Battery can be recharged by:
>Other bateries
>Direct voltage
>Placing them into a fire
>Particularly strong sun

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>>31198290
I would prefer a Krieg pattern

>>31198369
They also can be used as a last ditch grenade if you overcharge them. I think it can crack Terminator armor if thrown and charged right.

>>31198414
About half or 3/5 of a Melta Bomb. But if you survive that you better cover your ass cause if the Mechanicus find out you destroyed sacred technology like that they will turn you into a Servitor.

all the human weapons in 40k are terribly boring

especially due to fucklords like >>31198413 that want them to look like conventional (usually quite old) weapons from real life

shuriken cannons and markerlight spam when

>>31198369
>Placing them into a fire
>Particularly strong sun
these are, afaik, no longer canon. the fire thing is still respected in the RPG games but it automatically gives your weapon the "unreliable" quality and is tech heresy

the sun thing is completely gone

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>>31198522(you)_
I just want a krieger lasgun for the firepower desu

>>31198290
They're crap compared to bolters, about equal to autogun in terms of firepower, inferior to plasma guns except when you face the risk of melt down, superior to stubbers.

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>there are weapons that fire by modifying local gravity to act down the barrel at amplified strength
>there are weapons that fire smart munitions that interface with fucking paraflares to kill people behind cover
>there are weapons that, instead of exploding, burst into a cloud of mono-molecular edged razor wire
>there are weapons that are essentially shotguns that use superheated air and microwave energy instead of pellets
>there are weapons that literally run on literal magic built by green soccer hooligans

>but no lets obsess over the boring-ass nonsense physics flashlight lasgun and the even more boring "it's literally just a 20mm grenade launcher" bolter

/k/ picks the worst memes

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>>31198290
I wish they gave Harakoni warriors Accatran Pattern Mark IV Lasgun, aka bullpup lasgun.

Like why use shit show carbines when the Elysian troopers use superior bullpups.

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>In the grim darkness of the far future there is only AK's

>>31198641
This is an individual that is not aware of Gyrojet.

>>31198641
>>there are weapons that literally run on literal magic built by green soccer hooligans

>he doesn't know about the weapon that literally runs on literal magic built by green soccer hooligans

>>31198654
Nigga the Warhawks are Tempestus Scions. They'll be rocking Hot Shot Lasguns, bacicly M14 lasguns, or will be rocking Hellguns which are lasSAW's.

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>Grimdark M16.

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>Grimdark FAL.

>>31198663
boltsers are "1.00 calibre" grenade launchers, that's it

they still use conventional shells, and the MUH ROCKETS wouldn't even add anything to the impulse of the shell and is still not a gyroget-like assembly anyway

>>31198726
>>31198734
why is everything in wh40k so terribly drawn?

like, if you look at actual rulebooks, you still get this children's drawing/mspaint tier shit as actual fluff material with actual game content

wtf

>>31198747
Gamesworkshop is greedy and hires kids to do the drawings.

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>>31198712
I know, but they get rekt without some form of support.

I guess since they're essentially the 82 Airborne IN SPESS, but still... wouldn't it make sense to have some form of hot-shot bullpup? Kinda like a OTs-14 Groza lasgun addition.

>>31198773
>OTs-14 Groza

>guyze why doesn't this modern infantry weapon exist in this fictional setting?????

shit man i dunno

>>31198855
Lost tech.

There, explained.

>>31198864
>GUYS WHY ISNT THIS REAL WORLD ITEM IN THIS FICTIONAL SCI FI SETTING MAN I JUST DONT GETT ITTTTTT

>>31198855
>lasgun addition

>>31198726
>>31198734
>Grimdark MG 34/Browning M2 mash up
>it might actually just be a MG 34 with a Bar carry handle.

>>31198923

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>>31198734
Naw man that's a Galil.

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>>31199011
Compared to a FN FAl, nah more FAL.

>>31198923
>trying to discern real world firearm shapes out of a series of mspaint boxes
autism

str8 autism

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>>31198923
Forgot pic

>>31198747
Cool everythings gay and sucks.

You should fuckin kill yourself only option.

>>31198290
layz-gun or laz-gun?

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who else /autogun/ here

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>>31198369
>so god damn overpowered
It has to be, or no one would be able to kill Space Marines once in a while.

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>>31198413
yeah that aint no lucius.

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>Why no AK-47 Lasgun for Valhallan Ice Warriors?

>>31198339
>>no recoil
Sone fluff gives it simulated recoil for ergonomics

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>>31198657
It looks like an Stg 44 IN SPESS

>>31198556
So close.

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>>31200265
The Maccabian Jannisaries carry something alongs of that. But why the fuck would a lasgun need a gas tube?

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>>31198657
You don't even know man.

>>31200583
Is that the board game where the Gretchin start up their own army or something?

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>>31198706

>tfw you realize the ork tech runs on literal meme magic

>>31200591
The Rebel grot faction from GorkaMorka, The banna-waver and boss had AKs.

As an army, they were impossible to win with, their guns sucked, their vehicles ran on sail power, you had to trick orks merchants and meks into selling you gear/upgrades and you'd have to roll to lie to your superiors to try get more funding for your mob after each game.

>>31200562
Because a drawing tens of thousands of years old said so, and to question it is heresy

>>31200600
Image
but why....

>>31198369
>>31198339
SO, what you're saying you can shove a battery up your ass for a recharge?

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>>31200694

>>31200759
Nah nah, hear me out here.

When you run out of charge you just squat and switch the batteries. Since there's like more guardsmen than there are atoms in the universe, you could save a fuck ton materials and I bet that you could drill the guardsmen into doing fast reloads like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2_qo5_wSa8

But with their asses.

>>31198413
You'd quickly run out of ammo when fighting orks and nids.

>>31201051
Thats why you just find some forgeworld kid and strap batteries to him.

>>31198556

>5.56

noice

>>31200137

>that marking at the front of the receiver

The Inquisition has been notified of your heresy.

>>31199051
See
>>31199089

>>31198706
Applies to blades too. That garbage piece of steel? Wouldn't penetrate jack shit for a person. Now an ork? Penetrates fucking power armor.

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>>31198747
bolters shoot .75 cal shells, heavy bolters shoot 1.00 call.

a .75 cal is basically a 10 gauge shot gun, and it matches up how shells are always depicted being so long and non tapered.

also, those are fan recolors of old art from the early 90's.

>>31198747

You are entirely wrong. Bolters and bolt pistols are .75 caliber and rocket assisted. It actually does make them more lethal by imparting more energy on them. Bolt weapons do not require rifling either because the rocket assist gives them spin.

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>>31200137
Reporting in.

BURN THE HERETIC
KILL THE MUTANT
PURGE THE UNCLEAN

The Emperor himself has bestowed upon us the M1911 Stubber and .45 Apostate Cleansing Pattern ammunition to accomplish these tasks.

>>31198290

OK, you assholes sold me.

Where should I start reading first?

>>31201274
Eisenhorn series is pretty based and well written.

>>31201274
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperium_of_Man

Start here, and wikiwalk your way around to whatever interests you.

Welcome to the addiction.

>>31201274
>>31201296
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Imperium_of_Man
Start here instead

>>31201274
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000#Imperium_of_Man

Might as well jump on the band wagon :P

>>31201273
>"stub gun" is literally just a Hi Power lookin' thing and a sensible design, if a bit out-of-place for far flung sci-fi
>"sawn-off shotgun" is a retarded mspaint contraption that makes approximately zero sense

>>31201232
>also, those are fan recolors of old art from the early 90's.
I have PDFs for Only War and Rogue Trader and they didn't drop that art style despite the lavish artwork for literally everything else.

>>31201273
stub gun is just a basic term for all kinetic rifles that arent boltguns.

>>31201274
1d4chan for the "Anon explains to you" version and the http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page for the actual lore.

The Emperor protects.

>>31200137

That's a stubber. Autoguns fire caseless ammo at absurd ROF.

>>31201273

>dat pic
>"The Emporer [sic] Knows"

Kek, 40k is even trashier than I thought.

>>31201360
Well autoguns tend to to use telescopic/caseless rounds, so slightly more advanced than a typical stubber.

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>>31200184
>Ryza Pattern

>>31200149
Holy fuck I love beakies

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>>31200600
Holy shit that pic made me rage.

The worst part is what pisses me off is not the fact that the intern didnt know Cowboy Bebop, but that he just decided to draw over someone else's drawing in there like that. Like holy shit the place is made so that everyone that works or contributes to CN can leave their mark, what sort of self absorved cunt would think that it's ok to destroy someone else's legacy like that fuck im mad.

>>31198641
The thing you forget about bolters is that they actually violate the geneva conventions. Bolter rounds are designed to penetrate and then explode inside the target. This makes them more deadly than grenade rounds that explode on contact.

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>>31201273
>ywn flush xenos out of a hive with your handheld problem solvers

>>31201293
THIS

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>>31198657
Looks like someone drunkley slapped together a SCAR using left over industrial machinery parts.

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>>31200562
Because it's cool.

>>31201397
10 rounds a second is not fast.

>>31198864
This is 40k, not BattleTech.

>>31198290
Victim of power creep.

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>>31200184
>Ryza pattern

That looks really REALLY uncomfortable to hold

>>31200184
why not just use the Lucius

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>>31201913
I wish they made an updated beakie.

Compare beakies to the standard helmet and armor.

Beakie
>space cop
>looks gud
>badass
>reasonable
>not a total dick

Normal Spess Merine helmet
>FER DA EMPERER
>Stormtroopers
>Pricks
>Charge at the enemy like a fuckin' Ork
>less badass

>>31198641
It's actually 19mm.

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>>31200184
>Accatran

I want a Starship trooper like movie with Imperial guard fighting Tyranids in the same style.

>>31198290
Whole lotta diddly.

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>>31198290
It's alright, but Skitarii weapons are where it is at.

For fuck sakes, they get a grimdark PTRS-41 as one their main armaments.

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>>31205438
As a huge mechanicus fag I cant wait to get my Skitarii shit toghether.

>>31201274
Gaunts Ghosts for sick Ghost Recon Guardsmen

>>31205648
Agreed. FOR TANITH! GIVE THEM THE STRAIGHT SILVER!

>>31201300
I second this

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Tempestus Scions: Operator operating in grim dark operations.

>>31198522
>the sun thing is completely gone
What, did GW suddenly forget about photovoltaics?

The sheer fact that I charge gadgetry off a cheap solar panel 6 months of the year makes me sceptical.

>>31206087
It probably has to do with the size.

There is an upper limit to how much power you can get from the sun in a planet and have said planet still handle life. While perfectly posstible to charge the battery by the sun, it may be that it takes too long to be viable since the batery ahs such small surface area for the light to hit.

>>31206118

I thought the heat was what charged them, not light directly

>>31198522
Why is it in the imperial infantryman's uplifting primer, then?

>>31206087
That's probably why it's gone, since it implied each lasgun shot was about as powerful as someone throwing toilet paper at you. Still funny to think that it was canon for about thirty years though,

>>31206399
It could be. But still: A planet cool enough to still support human life would be still way cooler than the average firewood burn.

>>31206405
It came out before the change probably.

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>>31200694

>>31198755
I want to disagree.

>>31200184
Dylan?

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bump

>>31208149
reasonablemarine.jpg

>>31198290
Is the Ripper basically an oversized AA-12?

Pardon the sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm6kYT2tMaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQYp9fOJ9VI

>>31198290
I think it's an amazing weaponin terms of reliability, logistics & ease of use.

>>31204071
>because the concept of lost technology only exists in one setting
fuck off

>>31207046

That's why the packs take hours to charge in sunlight and minutes to charge by a fire.

>>31198290
Meatshiel-I mean Guardsmen are gonna need something better than a puny ass flashlight if they wanna actually be useful. The batteries are pretty cool though.

>>31200600
I knew this.

Maybe the Orks are just pol tards who degenerated into pepes

>>31208258
Yeah, though to compare it to modern standards it's more like an autocannon loaded with canister rounds.

>>31198290
The mosin nagant of the 40k world

Why has no one made a working bolter yet? Take an existing semi auto shotgun design, reinforce it for firing at higher pressures. The rocket stage is easy to make with modern tools it's just a metal cylinder with holes, only thing I'm unsure about is how to reliably ignite the rocket.

>>31200184
Mars pattern. Best pattern.

>>31212157
Ignoring the firing problem, I think the biggest problem would be find enough propellant to give the munition some punch while keeping it stable enough in flight to be able to aim with.

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>>31200184
im liking the kantrael and galaxy patterns

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>>31212157

They tried back in the 70s, man.

http://www.pmulcahy.com/best_stuff_that_never_was/best_smgs_that_never_were.htm

Second entry here.

>>31212157
Because we are fighting other human beings, not green sentient fungi from space.

In order to make the expense of a two-stage gyrojet round with a kicker charge and a rocket engine worth it, it has to be pretty large to have a sufficient payload. That is just plain overkill for humans and will be issued to normal human soldiers who aren't even wearing at least powered exoskeletons that can help guide and aim the weapon so those expensive rounds don't go to waste.

That's not to say that using a .50 BMG rifle against a human would be wrong considering it is also generally overkill, but at least for the concept of the bolter it isn't suited for the almost purely ranged combat that we face today. Maybe if we ever have to put down uprisings of crazed demonically possessed cultists who prefer to engage in melee combat with bladed tentacles, then we have a reason to go the overkill route just to put down the enemy as fast as possible, especially in close quarters and urban areas.

>>31212157
Because we aren't fighting oversized bugs, space elves, large soccer hooligans who can make guns from scrap that work if they believe in it, Egyptian killbots, shit that will literally mind rape you, space pirate bug things, space Japs, and 8ft guys in power armor.

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>>31198290
i fucking love them, great ammo carry capacity, on better models adjustable power (just imagine if you could switch calibers with a flick of finger on today's guns) almost zero maintenance, rugged, reliable, easy enough to recharge via solar or generators, perfect for casual infantry.

>>31212527
>what is gyrojet round?
we are talking about 60 years old technology here

>>31212527
That's not a problem for space marines. They're already super strong without power armor, not that they are ever without it. Space marine bolters can be huge and fire soda can sized rounds with ease.

Normal humans that use power armor, like the sisters of battle, have weaker bolters. Regular grunts can only use bolters that are basically outclassed by lasguns, unless we're talking mounted weapons.

So I guess any bolter should be made with no delusions about it being a mounted gun that shoots rockets.

>>31213806
>bolters can be huge and fire soda can sized rounds with ease
actual round is 19mm even tho the bolter is as big as a briefcase. so i imagine there is not much kick to them probably a little girl could fire them bolter from a stand.

>>31214270
the lore is very fudd tho
>The Bolter is a large .75 calibre assault weapon.
so basically not even a 20mm long barreled am rifle. kick from a gun like this would be comparable to a slug fired from a high pressure 12ga shotgun round. which is nothing.
>So large is the Godwyn pattern that no normal man could heft one, let alone survive its unforgiving recoil.
if it's so heavy that no man can lift it, then it would have zero recoil from firing a 12ga slug god damnit. wh40k raping physics left and right.

>>31212157
XM-25 is where it's at
when the need will arise for XM-25 SLAP munitions, then gyrojet. and not before.

>>31214311
I think they meant the grip was so big no normal man had enough of a hand to use it properly.

>>31212157
Because bolters are shit weapons in reality. You can't just slap on a bunch of fanwank buzzwords and expect an optimized weapon.

>>31214311
There is no kick. The imaginary initial booster charge is just asspained fanfiction because everybody points out that rocket propelled bullets are actually quite stupid no matter how cool it sounds. It is canon that bolter shells are purely rocket powered.

>>31215464
It has an ejection port for FTF caseless shells (and drops spent brass casings when the artists think it looks nicer). You don't seem to know what you're talking about, yet can't help but take the opportunity to be the "smart rational realistic man" in this conversation.

No, you're still ignorant and will remain ignorant. Go away, look for attention and praise elsewhere.

>>31215464
i think they wanted pure gyrojet initially until someone pointed out within 25 feet penetration would be problematic and the marines do like to get up close and personal.
that probably broke some synapses that's why the retarded notion of hybrid ammo was given birth. also the cool falling brass casings would be impossible without it.

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oh bby

>>31208149
>raptor scout closes in for silent melee kill
>loud RREEEEEEE WROOOOM WROOM from the chainknife can be heard in the enemy compound

>>31204591
Well, they had the anniversary marine, which looked great.
Unfortunately it was only sold for one weekend.

>>31217593
>handheld autocannons are chaos only in maingame

ITS NOT FAIR!

When I still played IG I had every vehicle with autocannons if possible.

>>31216470
I'm pretty sure space marines prefer to stay at range, otherwise they wouldn't use guns at all.

>>31217725
>Not closing with the heretic, xeno, and mutant to destroy them in glorious close combat.

Found the Tau.

>>31217725
Depends on the chapter. You have the raptors that like to be sneaky and then you have the black templars that rush in yelling EMPEROR WILLS IT!

>>31200562
>cooling system

Or maybe it's a barrel over pressure system to stop dust n shit from getting into the gun when it's not firing.

>>31198654
Its a battery feeding power to a laser diode. you can put it wherever its the most ergonomic to the shooter since its feed power through cables not actual ammo.

>>31201335
>Hi Power lookin' thing
That's clearly a fucking 1911.

>>31201300
That wiki is written by retards.

"The orks want to invade the shit out of everything"

>>31205648
Agreed, still rock the Tanith First logo on Steam.

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>>31206079
Praetorian Guard, Remove Fungus

>>31217815
Oh don't forget space wolves, who literally will charge at their enemies riding giant wolves.

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>>31221145
>remove mushrooms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWV10-o2IxA

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>>31213652
>cerran
too functional and reasonable, have an Accatran pattern.

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>>31200265
It exists, but lasguns are already AK47 enough, and I'm pretty sure the Valhallan's use the Triplex because post-oldhammer

>>31201984
Maybe they just didn't see it... like a mother fucker wit glasses or something. Plenty of you niggas wear glasses n shit ya know. Oooooo waaaa history!!! I can still see the drawing, and its still aesthetic af, even wit a bold and dark and non detailed image of a retard drawn over it. Fuggin haters. Oooo spike is so ollllddd oooo loook how long ive been around!!!! Thanks for autism CN. We all know you are to blame.