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>>31192160
One round per trigger-pull, senpai
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>>31192160
fuck that was actually me.
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I have an official Red Ryder carbine action, two-hundred shot range model revolver with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time.
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>>31192196
So you are also a noguns I see.
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>>31192230
>ive been found out !
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Autism: The Thread
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>>31192160

Hmmm...
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Ahem*

>Aykayfordee sevens are infinitly more reliable than em sixteens and never jam ever

>.45 is better than 9 mil cause its bigger

>how much does the clip hold

>barret fifty cal

>1911´s are the best handgun

Or my favorite common noguns question...

>what gun is the best? I want to get a gun but what one is the best gun?
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>>31192580
That doesn't count m9
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>>31192580
HEY MOM LOOK
I CAN CHERRY PICK!

>phaggot
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>>31192580
whoa really makes you think
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>>31192196
>Double barrel shotguns are now semi-auto
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>>31192610
For that last one, if you ask what role they have in mind you can give a pretty definitive answer.
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>>31192633
About fucking what?
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>what is the best gun?
>what is the best gun for shtf
>I don't like the P320 or P226 because "high bore axis"
>a light trigger on a carry gun can get you into more trouble in court if you ever have to use your weapon in a defensive situation
>fiber optics are not durable
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>>31192671
>I don't like the P320 or P226 because "high bore axis"

I don't like guns with a high-bore axis. What's no-funs about that.
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>>31192684
People get butthurt when their choice of handgun is insulted/proved sub-par
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>>31192644
I know but still i hate general questions like that. Obviously there are different guns for different reasons.
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>>31192684
Like you've ever been in - or will ever be in - a situation where that makes a sliver of difference.
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Capacity > Stopping power
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>>31192713
Comfort is a viable reason to prefer a low bore axis, even if you never shoot outside the range.
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>>31192713
>what is target shooting
c'mon man
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>>31192724
"Stopping power exists"
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>>31192671
>trouble in court
i've heard this about carrying anything other than FMJ, having a light, having a laser, or having aftermarket grips
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>>31192713
i guess if you never shoot it wouldn't a make a difference.
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>>31192741
"Hydrostatic Shock"
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>>31192663
it just really triggers the thought process
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>>31192160
>>31192254
>>31192641

>Full Definition of semiautomatic

>not fully automatic
>a : operated partly automatically and partly by hand
>b of a firearm : able to fire repeatedly but requiring release and another pressure of the trigger for each successive shot
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generalized terms about guns
revolvers are magnums
anything with a scope is a sniper
if the magazine protrudes downward its a assault rifle
black=tactical
>or referring to guns by their caliber
eg: "oh yeah i love to shoot. i have a 9mm, a .22 and a 7.62"
my special favorite is when someone says they shot a gun in 7.62 when that could be like five different calibers
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>>31192160
>no one needs five five six, it's a military round!
>but why do you need an AR15?
>my shoulder is sore
>you're paranoid, no one will break into your house
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Per wikipedia:

>A semi-automatic, or self-loading, firearm is one that performs all steps necessary to prepare it to discharge again after firing

sounds an awful lot like what a double-action revolver does

pedants btfo
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>>31192839
does not extract or eject casings you knob
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>>31192837
>my shoulder is sore

on that note, what the fuck is up with the mosin-nagant recoil meme?

>recoil from the second shot resets your dislocated shoulder from the first xDxDxD

those rifles are gentler than .30-.30. you'd have to be a fucking infant for the recoil to present a problem.
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>>31192842
So?
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>>31192795
Ooh that's a good one too
I used to believe in that
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>>31192842
>does not extract or eject casings you knob

yeah, except that has literally nothing to do with the definition, you illiterate hobgoblin.
>semi-automatic firearm is one that performs all steps necessary to prepare it to discharge again after firing
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>>31192851
That means if you wanted to load more ammuntion you would have to manually extract and eject each case so its not "automatic"
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>>31192859
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>>31192856
Semi-automatic means "Ejecting a shell and loading the next round of ammunition automatically, but requiring a squeeze of the trigger for each shot.". So you see, it takes more than just one shot per trigger pull to make it a semi-automatic, it requires autoloading capability as well. A revolver doesn't automatically reload it's chamber for every shot, instead it has six seperate chambers that you must manually load. An autoloader only has one, that the mechanism reloads from a magazine
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>>31192859
>That means if you wanted to load more ammuntion you would have to manually extract and eject each case so its not "automatic"

I'm amazed that you're even capable of using a computer
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>>31192823
Nice, my mosin is semi auto
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>>31192880
Says the guy whose saying double action revolvers are semi automatic,
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>>31192705
You're right, of course. However, nowadays the conversation goes like this:
Noguns: "What's the best gu..."
Idiot Fanboy/Closet Noguns: "GLAWK OMG ALL OTHER GUNS ARE CRAP."
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>>31192839
A revolver does it before firing, not after. That's the key difference.
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>>31192918
Figures a mosin owner would be this dumb.
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>>31192946
For a layman looking for a handgun a glock is one of the best choices.
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>>31192724
Especially for people who don't practice much, are very jittery and prone to firing 16 rounds with one or two random hits.
Example: see most incidents involving police use of firearms.
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>>31192852
Are you really suggesting that having pic related in your body doesn't hurt you? Are you fucking Gumby? Do your muscles and organs stretch and contract back to their original shape.
Your mentality is like reverse Fudd shit, /k/ pushes this dribble too so you can't be completely blamed for being retarded.
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>>31192974
For a layman looking to blow off his dick, sever his femoral artery, or have an ND while showing the gun to a friend, it's actually the PERFECT fucking firearm.
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>>31192823
>Operated partly automatically

What part of a normal, DA/SA revolver is operated automatically?

What part of a single trigger, double barrel shotgun is operated automatically?
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>>31193000
Like I said, perfect. It's natural selection.
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>>31192991
Of course a fucking .308 is going to hurt me

But it isn't going to damage tissue in an unrelated part of my body just by virtue of "shock".
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>>31192823
Do you actually know how a revolver works?
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>>31192991
Actually, the human body is pretty elastic. You could survive vacuum for up to 2 minutes, even if your body balloons up.

So, unless you have an aneurism waiting to burst, I don't think death by "hydrostatic shock" is really a thing.
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>>31193000
I actually once heard it described as "imagine you have a loyal, badass guard dog who pretty well takes care of himself. Now imagine that if you accidentally brush against his left ear when putting on or taking off his collar or leash, he will chew off your genitals and leg in seconds. If you find such a dog, name him Glock."
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>>31193030
You ever pull a muscle?
That's just fucking "dislocating" it from it's normal position, a temporary cavity would literally shred your muscles open.
No one is saying if I hit you in your gut your heart will stop from shock, your guts however are going to be out of place and possibly ruptured in some areas.
I'm going to assume you're trolling me though because there's no way you're this retarded.
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>>31192856
It doesn't prepare any steps. You do that by manually actuating the trigger.
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>>31193000

It's such a shitty baited hook, but I'm still going to bite. Bravo, anon.

> I wish someone made things that held your gun and covered up the trigger guard

> The third rule of gun safety is for squares, man.
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>>31192974

Nope. That'd be a Hipoint, friendo.
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>>31192160
it's misworded
Revolvers are practically semiauto
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>>31193045
Jesus another fucking retard, point out where anyone made the argument that HS would kill you. The arguments being made is for "stopping power" as in the targets body being stopped either by the disruption caused to their organs or just physical pain from having a part of their organs being displaced and damaged, and having any muscle that was shot be torn in the process and make that muscle stop functioning.
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>>31192160
He should have said practically.
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>>31193096
They aren't. They are practically manual action.
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>>31193064
Hydrostatic shock theory literally states that damage occurs in remote parts of the body upon bullet impact. The temporary and permanent cavity have nothing to do with it.
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>>31193103
As I said, there is no permanent damage or muscles torn from "hydrostatick shock", because the body is very elastic.

If you think stopping someone relies on pain, or organ displacement, you're welcome to use a flashball.

You should only shoot to kill, and hydrostatic shock doesn't kill.
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>>31193152
That's fucking retard and definitely not what I was told in the muhreens
If you're arguing against the definition you gave then sure I'll concede that. If you're still going to sit there and refuse to accept what I've been saying then I'm done replying.
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>>31193188
Hey I'm glad we agree anon. My definition could be considered the civilian or fudd definition.
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>>31192842
That has nothing to do with the argument you anal astronaut. We've all been successfully baited by OP
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>>31192641
>two triggers=full auto
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>>31193186
I'm not shooting to cause pain and stop them in hopes they stop their attack.
I'm shooting to hurt and give me a fraction of a second with a pause I cause them to put another hole in them if they don't go down.
The "Mozambique Drill" wouldn't be taught and used with effect if it didn't work. Go deploy, do it on someone when you're clearing a house, assuming we're still doing that and come back and tell me you didn't get a "break" to line up the third follow up shot.
Or you could alternatively stay in the states and shitpost more
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>>31192580

Beautiful handgun.
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>>31192196
>>31192580
>"automatic" is in reference to firing, not loading
this is why you are being called a noguns faggot.
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>>31192991
Ballistics Gel =/= Hooman Bean
It is a calibrated flesh simulate. It has no bones, it has no cavities or voids, it has no structure, it has no connective tissues.
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>no one hunts with an AR-15, it'll destroy all the meat
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>>31192851
>>31192866
>>31192880
wow. it actually kept happening. is it just a coincidence that /pol/ is flooding with leftists the same time /k/ is flooding with noguns?
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>>31193269
>>31192991
to reiterate, it tests how the bullet acts in flesh, not how human flesh acts with introduced to a bullet at high speeds.
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>>31192684
Its usually voiced by people who believe internet hype and don't shoot guns a lot.
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>People believe that revolvers aren't semi auto

I guess it's not as bad as 9/11 truthers or people who watch Ancient Aliens
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>>31193222
HD rounds are different from ball rounds.
Unless you're saying you deployed with hollow points, therefore violating the Hague conventions?
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>>31193365
US didn't agree to this part of the Hague, tho.
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>>31193365
Go look up the temporary cavity 5.56 fmj causes. If you think it just goes right through someone and doesn't create a temporary cavity you're speaking out of your ass and haven't done research yourself.
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>>31193296
Can't tell if joke or retard.
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>>31192947
>A revolver does it before firing, not after. That's the key difference.

so, if a revolver were to use a spring (coiled during trigger pull and released after firing) to rotate the cylinder *after* the shot, that would be semiauto?

that's totally arbitrary.

A revolver is a semi-automatic firearm, because part of the operation is automated to enable repeated fire - that being, cartridges are moved into battery by the trigger pull. The details of the mechanism are unimportant.
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Why does anybody give a shit if double-action revolvers are semiautomatic or not? You can fire single-action revolvers and lever-action rifles at semi-auto speeds with the right training, and they're technically manual action.
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>>31192876
That's a new level of pedantry right there.
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>>31193693
>By the trigger pull

Exactly, you idiot. Therefore, not semiautomatic.
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Here's one that gets me every time:

>HK hates civilians.


That one exposes you right on the spot.
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>>31192160
I've had gungrabbers argue this with me.

>>31192196
B8

>>31192580
>using power from it's fired cartridge to cock the hammer and ready the next available cartridge
The Fosberry is an automatic AND a revolver, which makes it an outlier, a rather rare one too, almost no revolvers are automatic otherwise, with only a handful of produced designs in the world.

It's like saying technically bolt actions are automatic because automatics have bolts in their action, it's a complete non-sequitur and it's plain incorrect.

If it doesn't somehow use the power of it's fired cartridge to cycle the next cartridge (and usually, but not always' cocking a striker or hammer in the process), then it's not an automatic. A gun using an engine to cycle I suppose counts as well, such as an M134 Minigun or a Bushmaster Chaingun

A double-action revolver is a manual mechanical action, it uses the force of your finger to index and fire cartridges, at no point does it do anything by itself.

>>31192610
All of these annoy me.
People with just barely casual knowledge and hearsay are almost worse than someone who genuinely knows nothing about guns.
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>>31193444
It does, but the temporary cavity doesn't do shit.
Shear trauma does.
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>>31192713
It's a matter of comfort and preference.

There's nothing wrong with a striker fired quasi-DAO pistol like a Glock or M&P, in fact I think they're great pistols, but personally, I like the feel and handling of a clean and definite single-action and/or double-action trigger by the way of a hammer, it just feels more right to my hands.
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>>31193010
The cylinder turns automatically.
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>>31192160
>single or double action
>lever action
>pump action
>break action
>bolt action
>semi automatic
>automatic
only one of those is semi auto
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>>31193994
Just ignore this troll

He's acting retarded on purpose while being retarded in another way.
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>>31193994
Does it though?
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>>31194019
Doesn't it?
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>>31193976
My sides
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>>31192834
>revolvers are magnums
To be fair, .357 is incredibly popular because it's a Magnum that's easy to handle, and Specials are an appealing feature to people, while it's obviously not correct, it's almost become one of the, if not the actually most popular revolver cartridge in America because of this.

If someone is looking for a regular sized revolver in 4" or 6", .357 Magnum is usually what people go for, even if they were thinking of a .38 Special, since it can shoot both if needed.
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>>31194042
No, you are manually turning it by pulling the trigger
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>>31194042
No, your finger pulls on the trigger which cocks the hammer, while it also indexes the next chamber.

Very few revolvers can cock their own hammers.
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>>31194000
Checked
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>>31194060
????
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>>31192921
To be fair, a gun doesn't have to eject to be self-loading, it just has to be able to cycle after firing, independent of it's user's actions.

An automatic could be caseless, like a Gyrojet, or be a revolver that cycles it's own cylinder, like a Pancor Jackhammer or Webley Fosberry.
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>>31194086
This animation should explain how it works.
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>>31192847
Everyone on /k/ is a manlet
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>>31192974
It's genuinely good, but it's not for everyone, the ergos or trigger just don't jive for some people, and it's important that you're comfortable with your pistol if you are going to use it.

>>31192991
Literally only one gunwriter seriously supports the theory of hydrostatic shock, and not a very good one, everyone else who studies terminal ballistics thinks he's wrong and retarded.
Many people also mistake cavitation for hydrostatic shock.

A .308 hurts like a motherfucker but it's not gonna injure parts it doesn't hit.
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>>31192160
> hey doesnt berretta make the fiddy Cal snypr wifel too?
> dude glocks are the best, that's why all the cops have them
> do you have an ak47
> can I see your m16? Oh it's an AR...? Who cares same thing
> has the S.W.A.T. team ever showed up to your house cause of the guns lol
> I had an air soft gun like that
> is this anything like paintball or airsoft? Can I just pull the trigger
> do u have a navy seal gun?
> are you a navy seal?
> do u know any navy seals?
> Im gonna be a navy seal because they have the best guns
> have you ever killed someone with your guns?
> do you think my mom would let me get one of these?
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>>31192160
>countless pointless rants about the flying lemon
>countless mud test is serious business
>countless company shilling
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>>31193693
The automatic part in semiauto means that the chambering is done automatically without the required force ie compare trigger pull on a double action and semiauto pistol, its fucking heavy
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>>31193060
>>31193000
>muh glockleg
You literally have to be legally retarded to Glock yourself, trigger discipline exists for a reason.
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>>31192946
>Noguns
It's spelled nagant, idiot.
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>>31192991
ok niggers any thing over about 2000 feet per sec is going to hurt things it dosent touch aka most rifle calipers out of most barrels but its not called hydrostatic shock that is a marketing campaign
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>>31192847
What is it like compared to a 12 gauge?


I can only shoot a 12 gauge < 5 times before it hurts my should too much.
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>>31194576
For me

>Mosin is fine

>Skeet shooting with a 12 gauge gets unpleasant eventually because I can't seat it right

>I can only shoot a 12 gauge < 5 times before it hurts my should too much.
My grandma is over 70 years old and weighs about 100 pounds. Even she can handle more than that.
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>>31194423
>to Glock yourself

I don't know why but my sides are in orbit
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watching this thread as the person who first commented it.
it's hilarious how baited you guys are.
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>>31194497
gr8 b8 m8 I str8 appreshi8
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>>31194000
>Wonder 9s
>Semi auto and single action and double action
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>>31193243
>no such thing as an autoloading semi-auto
Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>31194660
when referring to autoloading pistols, SA/DA is altogether a different thing from revolvers.

DA/SA in an autoloading pistol just referring to the way the trigger works, not the action of the pistol.
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>>31194576
>What is it like compared to a 12 gauge?

Mosin: punched in shoulder by teenage girl

12ga: punched in shoulder by teenage dude

I was put off by the Mosin's stark metal buttplate but it kicks less than my Winchester 94
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>>31192847

I'm glad you took time out of your day to let us all know what a tough guy you are.
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>calls any revolver a magnum
>you should saw off your shotgun barrels
>when the zombie apocalypse happens I'm coming to your house xD
>you don't have to aim when you shoot a shotgun
>widespread carry would be bad because some normal people would just flip shit and shoot other people for no reason

My jimmies.
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>>31192847
I've only shot a chink mosin carbine, and from what i understand the significantly lower weight and some other factors cause it to have a significant ammount more recoil and was pretty unpleasnt to shoot, that being said i dont have a normal mosin to compare it too.
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>A semi-automatic, or self-loading, firearm is one that performs all steps necessary to prepare it to discharge again after firing

A revolver still requires the hammer to be cocked, and the cylinder to be rotated before firing again; therefore, it is not semi-automatic.
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>>31194957
>no such thing as a double action revolver!
Thanks mr. nogunz
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>>31194973
>double action revolvers cock the hammer and rotate the cylinder after firing.

Thanks mr. 3rd grade reading level.
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>>31194973
Which you do with your finger.

See >>31194146
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>>31194973
The hammer of a DA revolver still has to be manualy indexed (in this case by a lever or cam attached to the trigger)
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>>31193296

When did the soros shills start coming to k
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>I'm voting for Hillary
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>>31192610

1911s are the best pistols ever made. Hispter fags are the only ones that dont like them. Lets looks up retarded reasons people give: hammer must be cocked back; safety must be disengaged before shooting; OP is a faggot;
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>>31194898
whenever somebody calls it a magnum in my presence i take out a condom and shout magnum dong
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I remember why I don't browse /k/ anymore. What a bunch of autists you guys are
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>>31195270
oyes
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>>31195045
>>31195047
>>31195069
>on semi-auto pistols, the trigger is literally the firing pin!!!
stupid fucks
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>>31192580
>"revolvers are automatic noguns"
>"but they aren't"
>"I posted an autorevolver haha i win"
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>>31192160
ask him if a double barrel is a semi-auto
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There are semi-auto revolvers, so technically anon may be right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver

Sorry for wikipedia, but I'm drunk as fuck. Also I'm really sorry for my terrible English.
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>>31194898
>>widespread carry would be bad because some normal people would just flip shit and shoot other people for no reason
technically not wrong but just replace normal people with liberals.
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>>31195270
They are very decent guns but many many modern designs obsolete them.
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>>31195383
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>>31194603
I really think seating the gun right is my problem but I don't know how to consistently do it and I'm sort of afraid to fire it even though I know it's dumb.


Like last time I did it felt fine for 2~ shots or so and then started to hurt really bad.
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>>31194973
Is this comment meant to be ironic, because it is you who sounds like a noguns.
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>>31192847
>Mosin recoil meme
It isn't that bad, but when I first took my M44 to the range I ended up with a cool looking bruise on my shoulder after about 100 rounds. Got a sleeve pad after that and it's much more comfy than the steel butt plate.
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>>31195270
I like the 1911, and I think it's an adequate general purpose pistol in civilian life to this day, but:

>grip safety
>linked barrel (linkless is just plain better)
>single-stack in most models and variants
>barrel bushing
>is a bitch to make compacts out of, whereupon it goes through springs in a hurry
>too many manufacturers don't go for GI spec loose tolerances, many aren't as tolerant to dirt and shit as they could be
>take-down lever (which works, but newer pistols just do it better)

All in all, I think modern takes on the thing can be quite decent, and hell, even the old A1 styled guns work quite well for what they are, exhibit A: Rock Island Armory, their GI model pistols are rather adequate for civilian purposes, for a quite good price too.
But it's not really the best anymore, not even as a metal framed automatic.
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>>31192741
Haha this lol. I only carry .25ACP now because there is no such thing as stopping power.
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>>31195596

Wrong. Not all retangles are squares.
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>>31194423

So do manual safeties.
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>>31192724
Only if you plan to miss a lot.
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>>31196187
>m-muh stoppin powah
>I'll make a strawman argument where I don't understand the concept of penetration

>>31196336
>TexGrebner.mp4
Don't put your finger on the trigger when you're not supposed to and you'll never have an accident.
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>>31192160
>Glocks are the best handgun of all time.
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>>31192823

Except that's not true.

>A semi-automatic, or self-loading, firearm is one that performs all steps necessary to prepare it to discharge again after firing

The thing is the loading, not the trigger pulling.
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>>31192610
Most of those are fuddlore, not nogunslore.
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>>31196094

Single stack is optimal for mass consumption. Variety of hand sizes, including women in combat roles, now makes single stack more favorable to double stack fat grips. If you need more rounds, carry more magazines, they are thin as shit.
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>>31196455

The word "semi" is what confuses it. In reality, all self-loaders are truly automatic, but people associate that word with machine gun fire. So we arbitrarily call guns "semi-automatic" if they are specifically designed to not allow any more than one cycle per trigger squeeze. But they all are capable of machine gun fire if customized or malfunctioning.
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>>31196937

>So we arbitrarily call guns "semi-automatic" if they are specifically designed to not allow any more than one cycle per trigger squeeze.

But that's not arbitrary. It's very specific.
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>>31196989

I'm just a dumbass that misused the term. I meant that saying it's "semi" is actually wrong, yet we just chose that word anyways.

If it were to be actually semi (i.e. partially) automatic, a step in the loading cycle would have to be done by hand, but the rest is still powered by the force of the explosion.
>>
>>31192610
>>what gun is the best? I want to get a gun but what one is the best gun?

I just always answer FAL. Can't go wrong.
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>>31197256
Your not right
But your not wrong either
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>>31194898
>>when the zombie apocalypse happens I'm coming to your house xD
I hate this so fucking much.
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>>31192580
Did he fucking limp-wrist it
>>
>>31192610

>>what gun is the best? I want to get a gun but what one is the best gun?

Deagle brand Deagle ffs. Only correct answer.
>>
>>31196857
I know, but unless you're a manlet, a double-stack isn't really that fat.
>>
See this at the gun stores all the time,
>I want this one because it's big so it's probably better
Proceeds to pick up deagle
OR
I even hear this from some has guns
>.22 is a baby round, I don't think it can do anything
Oh, so would you like to find out?
>>
>>31199328

You sure people are shit talking .22lr because they think it won't kill, or because almost all the other popular calibers out there are far more effective? I'd rather trust my life with 9mm over .22lr, plus the fact that .22lr is no longer dirt cheap so it's not that great for plinking, either.

Snake shot is the lolcantkill meme. It's partially true since it won't penetrate deeply, but the wounds it makes are still horrific, which in its own way also leads to death.
>>
>>31192231
Enjoy the lack of depth perception.
>>
>>31199737
,22 will kill, it just won't kill ***immediately***

You shoot someone in the chest with a .22, and without medical treatment, they will bleed out in a matter of minutes. But they won't necessarily go down.

Which is why the term "stopping power" exists. .22 will abso-fucking-lutely kill... it just has very little stopping power.
>>
>>31199945
Stopping power is a buzzword and not a quantifiable concept.
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>>31192952

He may be dumb but he's smarter than you.
>>
>>31192866
>posting funny junk
your 12
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>yeah bro its got enough kick back to break your wrist

fucking gets me every time
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>>31192823
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>YOUAREANIDIOT
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i still haven't forgotten the nightmares

shit was fucking creepy man
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>>31192610
daily reminder 9mm is airshit teir
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>>31194554
>rifle calipers
don't forget about revolver pistons and full auto rotors
>>
>>31193976

You do know that cavity it is creating, is putting a shit ton of trauma on the body.
>>
>>31194000

It's the bolt action, right?
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>>31194898
>>when the zombie apocalypse happens I'm coming to your house xD

This one triggers me extra hard because the only people I know that say this to me are the same ones that ask me why I need guns and why they're so dangerous and gun laws are so good and background checks and think of the babbies.
>>
>>31194898
>>when the zombie apocalypse happens I'm coming to your house xD
I always say only if you bring supplies and learn to shoot. None of them ever learn to shoot so I guess they're going to be left outside as bait.
>>
>"bolt actions are the best because theyre way more powerful"

>"a 12 gauge will knock you on your ass" (and they mean it literally)

>thinking 00 buckshot is some all-powerful super cartridge that obliterates bad guys like a heat seeking missile, or, on the flipside, believes shotguns are as underpowered as they are in vidya

>every bringing up the concept of 'need' in reference to guns. "you dont need a gun anon, just protect yourself like a real man"
YEA WELL WHY DONT YOU ESCHEW TECHNOLOGY AND GO LIVE IN THE WOODS LIKE A REEAAAAL HUMAN, HMM? WHY DO YOU NEEEEED THAT SMARTPHONE? JUST DIAL THE OPERATOR WHEN YOU NEED TO MAKE A CALL! WHY DO YOU NEEEEEED MONEY? JUST HUNT AND GATHER FOOD LIKE A REAL HUMAN!
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>>31192160

>the AR in AR 15, stands for assault rifle, the 15 is how many shot per min

This is what my wife thought when we first got together. So glad she is no longer that way.
>>
>Warn me before you shoot up a school herherher
>>
>>31192847
I have a Gew. 98 and SKS that have about the same amount of felt recoil, because even though 8x57 is a big poweful round, a long-barreled Mauser with an entire tree trunk for a stock mitigates the recoil greatly. In comparison, a Winchester 1894 feels like a flimsy little stick - I can see the appeal and why it's popular for hunting when it has to be carried around and only rarely fired. I just wouldn't feel as secure in a threatening situation with one because it handles like a toy.
>>
>>31192160
I don't mind this logic honestly
>technically revolvers are semi auto
Nah actually they're auto loaders, do you really think something so antiquated should be banned?
>gets full autos unbanned somehow.
>>
>>31196336
to protect yourself from your own incompetence?
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>>31192856

Which revolvers don't do.
Semi auto:
>Firing pin is ready
>Pull trigger which activates firing pin
Revolver:
>Hammer is not ready
>Pull trigger which gets hammer ready
>Pull trigger some more which activates hammer

Different.
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>>31193693
>if a revolver were to use a spring (coiled during trigger pull and released after firing) to rotate the cylinder *after* the shot, that would be semiauto?

If it also reset the hammer to cocked position, yes.
Maybe arbitrary and unimportant to you, but we're not talking about what you consider important. We're talking about literal definitions.
>>
>>31200850
That shit is just fucking insensitive to say.
>>
>>31192610
>barret .50 cal

you nailed all my nogunz friends who play CoD
>>
>>31195982
>>31193606
>>31195231
>>31192921
>>31200251
>>31196455
>>31193042
>>31194011
>>31200024
pi$$ of yuo lumploafs! yuo retards are so stupid yuo think taht wen the bulets go to fast it is a machen gun but yuo cant in too guns so many no guns on /K/ sumtimes i think iam the only won who own guns and yuo stupid lumploafs wont even by my sheths to support a reel komando iam a smal bisness owner tring to make it in a dog eet dog world and yuo coudnot care less i feel ashaymd
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>>31192741
Got it, cause being squared with a .308 in the chest is about the same as being squared with a .22LR

Makes total sense.
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>>31203524

2/10
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>>31203578
saids the trupfaget
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>>31203540
Stopping power is a buzzword from before terminal ballistics was well understood. Usually it'd hang on the assumption of a big projectile somehow just being better in all cases, it doesn't quantify anything and just barely means "This caliber is gud" without any real understanding behind why or if it actually even is.

What really matters is penetrative depth, how well the projectile holds together when wounding and for how long, as well as cavitation, fragmentation, and in the case of particularly fast projectiles, tumbling and yawing.

.22LR is a round-nosed unjacketed bullet that doesn't go very fast, put a jacket on it and jack up the speed, and it'll fuck you up pretty bad, compare .22LR from a pistol barrel to .22WMR from a rifle barrel.

Likewise, compare .45ACP to .50GI, they both have about the same velocity, with the .50GI having a bigger and heavier bullet, which has a much shorter range and penetrates worse, with the addition of more recoil.
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>>31200774
>Assault rifle
>15 shots per minute

They don't think do they?
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>>31204138
>.22LR from a pistol barrel to .22WMR from a rifle barrel.
well no fucking shit. that's like comparing 7.62x25 to 7.62x39 dum dum.
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>>31192160
"The Mosin was the best rifle ever made"
"Why?"
>"Because, um, its a good gun. The Russians used it, you know?"
>>
>is that a famas
>>
>wow i hate sig now
>>
>>31192231
>this thing that tells time.
Do you honestly not know the word "clock"?
>>
>>31205038
Watch A Christmas Story you filthy kike
>>
>>31203397
My dad replaced school with mass shooting and said at my lgs. Two days after Orlando.

(Never again)
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>>31205363
>said at my lgs
>Two days after Orlando
That's an unbelievable faux pas.
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>>31205096
Dull that edge
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